529. Wellness Habits Every Podcaster Should Know

0:06 Marc Ronick: Good morning, Today is Tuesday, june 2, 2026 and today Jen Trepek of A Salad with a side of fries joins us to share practical wellness insights, content strategies that build trust and her mission with the Podcast Professionals Association. So, if you're listening live on Clubhouse, hit the share button, top right-hand side of the screen, and share it however Clubhouse lets you. And if you're catching us via podcast, YouTube, LinkedIn, etc. please share this with a fellow podcaster. And now, give us about 30 seconds, and we'll get things rolling. Thanks for being here. The podcasting morning chat is powered by Ironick Media, helping podcasters launch, polish, and grow great shows, and by Content Creators Accountant, helping creators build real business behind their morning show. Thank you so much for being here. I am your host, Mark Ronick, and Fay, Sid Meadows, we have BC Babbles, we also have Janae and Tide Tutoring here as well, and of course, our guest, Jenn

1:38 Trepeck. We'll get to you in just a moment. Want to first do something a little different. Usually, as we start, I have some kind of announcement, some kind of thing for you, and today's a little different. I just want to give you a heads up, in case I forget, because I tend to do that with somewhat personal announcements. So, I've been sharing with you guys about my stepson and his content creator journey, and how he.. I think I know I've shared with you before. He is going to be on a game show, and appropriately so for today, because the game show is all about food. It's a cooking show, it's called 100 Cooks.

2:20 He's going to be on 100 cooks on the Food Network, june 7, 9pm It's a new show, it's They say it's the biggest competition cooking competition ever on television, and I guess technically that's true with 100 contestants, and yeah, he's a contestant. So check it out, you can learn more about him at Matthew B Cooks, but the show is called 100 Cooks, june 7, 9pm Eastern. Go check out Matthew, I think it'll be fun to watch. Who wanted to share? Somebody came off mic, did some.. DR: no, I had already checked out the grid of the Food Network, and I already said I was going to record all of those episodes.

3:01 Oh, before you knew that Marc Ronick: Matthew was on it. DR: Pardon me. Yeah, even I had no idea. Marc Ronick: Cool, very cool. Let's, if you can, let's show him some love. And yeah, he's really excited. I'm sad that I won't be able to watch with him, even though I'm in town, but I'm going to be out of town by then at the volunteering at that summer camp where I volunteer for kids with that disability called CMT, so that'll be all next week, but the show will go on next week. We'll share more later about what we're gonna do next week here on the Podcasting Morning Show, but today we're joined by Jenn Trepek, host of A Salad with a Side of Fries, and Jen brings together wellness, nutrition education, business, feels practical, feels human, And today we want to talk with her first as a creator, we'll get into her journey, how she built trust around a topic that can feel pretty personal for people, and what she's learned from content creating content around health.

4:06 And then we'll wrap up by talking with her about her work, Professionals Association, which I am a part of too. I know Ralph is, BC is, and I think several others from this community are as well. So, with that, Jenn, good morning to you. Unknown: Good morning, I'm excited to be here. Marc Ronick: Yeah, great to have nutrition stuff, I want people to learn more about you as a person and a creator, so about your journey with food and that that's a really important clearly comes from, I think, So I guess my question, my first happening in your life? Life that eventually led you to to want to help others with health and nutrition.

5:06 Jenn Trepeck: Yeah, so it's on the side of my full-time job back in, it was like late 2007 and that came after, like you lifetime of figuring out my those pieces. Now I grew up. I joke that I grew up the skinny one in a family of dieters, but all that really meant is that I was surrounded by these conversations. What should I eat? What should I not eat? growing up, you know, especially I mean, it was low fat, no fat, snack, wells, nutra system, weight watch, I mean, everything was there.

5:52 So I started to gain weight when I stopped dancing between high school and college, and life changed, you know, our normal activities, so many people have that college experience, and I think mine was just more dramatic, and I tried because I was so uncomfortable, but I was like, I know what to do, because I watched my family do this, and I tried every diet under the sun, gained and lost, lived on that roller coaster, and there were times where I was like, at some point it is not possible to eat any less or move any more like those things. If that's the recommendation that we had always heard, right? Eat less, move more. At some point, both of those extremes cap out, you know. There has to be more to this.

6:35 And ultimately, I stopped listening to the people who were talking about diets and plans, and started listening to the people who were talking about human biology and how the body works, and that completely So I feel like what I learned is the nutrition education we're all supposed to know, and no one when I was like, everybody deserves this information, and how is this not what we were ever taught? And then, because I'm an insatiable student, I was like, well, where did those things come from that we did learn, you be? And so it became a passion and a mission to help people help themselves with information, because I felt like that's what I was missing.

7:26 So I started working with clients on the side. I'm very much self-taught. I went to every lecture and workshop and course that I could get my hands on. I go to continuing medical I'm not a doctor, so they don't give me any credits, you know, Marc Ronick: right. Jenn Trepeck: And so, like, I said, I started health coaching on the side back in, like, late 2007 and I built this practice on the side. I left my full-time job in 2019 and that's when I launched Salad with a Side of Fries, the podcast, because, frankly, I'd gotten into listening to podcasts, and, like, so many of us, I was like, well, I could do that right, and so you know, now here we are.

8:10 it's really.. it's taken on a I think, because in starting the the content. I had been having these conversations for 12 years at that point in a coaching capacity in a lifetime, Marc Ronick: right? Jenn Trepeck: You know, in And then I just had to learn the medium. Marc Ronick: How did you come up of fries? What's behind that name? And I love it. I, when I mentioned it yesterday, when we were teasing that you're going to be here, several other people loved the name. So, how did that come about? Jenn Trepeck: So, it really is hired a coach to teach me how to our strategy sessions, and part of that conversation was, what am I, you know, the name of the show, and at one point I was gonna, you know, French fries that I will never give up, But it was that didn't really communicate what somebody was gonna get when they clicked play, so we were like, okay, we'll keep thinking about it, and leaving the meeting, he was like, okay, where are you going?

9:21 I was like, "I'm gonna go get He's like, "What are you gonna have? And I was like, "Probably salad with a side of fries. And he was like, "Hello, yeah. And now, like, you experienced yesterday, it's almost become like this beacon where people who get it are in, and people who don't, I'm like, that's all right, don't worry about it. We may not be friends, the show may not be for you, that's okay. Marc Ronick: I love that. Go ahead, Ralph Ralph Estep Jr.: and Jenna. I understand, I've been on a journey myself, so I totally get I wanted to bring up something. You got an interesting mix of business background, you mentioned coaching experience, podcasting, which gives your work. A different kind of foundation, but what was the first moment where you felt like this wellness work could become side project? Jenn Trepeck: It's a great question. So, I went to business school, and my full-time job was in, you know, I've done a lot of things. I was a photo shoot producer, and then I worked in hedge funds, and so the business side of it just allowed me to structure my health coaching practice such that I don't need people to need me.

10:29 My objective in working with a client is for them to be able to go live the rest of their life. So I've structured my practice such that I work with people for about 12 weeks and then they're on and living, and you know, not obsessing over this stuff or thinking about it 24/7 anymore, and so the business piece of it helps on that side, and helps when I go to say, okay, now I'm adding this piece of the podcast, and how does you know, how does the podcast fit into this ecosystem, and then how does merch fit into this ecosystem, like the business side and the business acumen and marketing brain informs a lot of the things I do and how the pieces fit together, but it's not part of the content that I share with people, it's this piece in the background that helps build the framework, if that makes sense. Absolutely, and it's so interesting because the traditional, I suppose, approach, you know, Western grew up on, is we think of these know, we sit down, even kids in school, we sit down in school, that one can't pay attention, playing with a rubber band, all of those things, and we think there's an attention problem We have a biochemistry challenge, and the fuel that we're giving ourselves or our kids or whoever it is are exacerbating that biochemistry. When we give the body the nutrients that it needs, it knows what to do, and all of a

12:02 sudden these things that can feel like I joke, it feels like climbing Mount Everest naked and barefoot, and it doesn't have to feel that way. And so, especially when it comes to creativity, we want to think about fueling the brain, because there are so many different networks of the brain, like old school brain science, used to think left and right brain. the brain more in terms of pieces connect, like the whole Now we really understand that everything is connected, and so when we think about how those parts of the brain connect, and which parts of the brain are active when we're doing something creative? It requires nutrients.

12:47 Yeah, so you will specifically. Yes, exactly. So amino acids are the building blocks of protein. They are also the building blocks of neurotransmitters, and neurotransmitters are all of the things of mood and thinking right, so we actually need a full complement, so all of the essential amino acids in order for our brain to really work well. Now, with that said, there are some that sort of fuel creativity a little bit more like L-tyrosine is one. Now I sometimes hesitate to get into some specifics because we don't need to start going out of our way to hunt down these specific amino acids.

13:34 What we do need to do is focus on eating food that has nutrients, because it's not just amino acids, it's also antioxidants and omega three fatty acids. So your brain actually is mostly omega threes, DHA and EPA. So, yes, you know, sardines, anchovies, everybody's favorite foods. I know. I certainly Marc Ronick: don't mind. Jenn Trepeck: Hey. dark leafy greens, so spinach, kale, broccoli, they support cognitive raspberries, strawberries, they help with our memory.

14:16 The antioxidants also help with blood flow and inflammation, fighting that inflammation. Before we started recording, we were talking about coffee, so sometimes caffeine can help with within the brain. We do want to make sure that that's sort of on balance with the other things, and especially when it comes to stress and the body stress response that can then inhibit our cognitive function and our creativity, we want to make sure that we're not doing caffeine before food in the morning, Ralph Estep Jr.: and Jenna, as the resident analyst on the show here, the accountant hat, things get into is tracking things, and I know one of the things that worked for me is starting to track what I actually consume, because one of the things you just mentioned is, am I getting this, am I getting that?

15:11 Well, if you're not tracking what you're eating, then how do you get to the point of knowing what you're consuming? Is that a big part of your philosophy actually getting in, because I know I added like creatine to my diet, I added a lot more proteins, I do all those type of things, but I didn't know what I didn't know until I started actually writing It's like you fooled, you fuel the engine, you pull up at the gas tank, you decide what in your car. So I don't wanna talk the whole time, but do you see that as being part of your journey as well, having to track this stuff and really paying attention to what's going in? Jenn Trepeck: Yeah, it's a tool, I'll say a lot of us have a complicated history with tracking. Yeah, John, what?

16:01 No caffeine before food. We can come back Ralph Estep Jr.: to that's a good one to discuss, for sure. Jenn Trepeck: So, tracking is a helpful tool, because you're absolutely right. Awareness is everything. So, when I work with clients, I need the tracking, because to your point, Ralph, too, our memory for those things isn't always as accurate. I mean, think about how you spend your time. If somebody said, "How do you spend every minute of your day? you're like, "I don't know, right? I don't know. things either got done or they And so tracking can help us with that awareness. It can help get objective information for me to be able to guide someone, I also want people to be able to then live their life without having to track those things if it doesn't serve them.

16:51 those people where you are time, and you're sitting here eat for the next meal, because did I eat before that, and what did I eat yesterday? You're likely resistant to tracking, and what I want you to know is that you are the prime candidate for getting it on paper, because once it's on paper, it can be out of your head, and when we talk about creativity, freeing up that mental capacity is one of the biggest aha things that I see with people, and what they're able to do and contribute to this world, when so much of their mental capacity is not taken up by, well, what did I eat an hour ago, what did I eat yesterday, what am I allowed to eat, what am I going to eat next, when's my next meal, and all of those things.

17:36 So, if we can get it onto paper and out of our heads, I think you'll be surprised how much easier it is, even though our tendency is to resist that. Marc Ronick: DR, go ahead. DR: Can you talk about the trend Is high protein, putting protein powder in full whip, putting protein powder in your coffee, putting powder in your pudding, Jenn Trepeck: everything I'm in, everything. DR: Yeah, Jenn Trepeck: yeah. DR: And they say I heard something about make sure you have protein in your body within that.

18:17 Jenn Trepeck: Yes. Okay. Over time, the protein guidelines from our government dietary guidelines are really insufficient, and in the capacity of the old guidelines of eat less, move more, often what suffers is the protein, and so there's sort of like everything, and we see it all the time in everything that we all do, there's an overcorrection, always right. So, with an understanding of what protein does in the body, so protein is our neurotransmitters, protein is our muscle, protein is building blocks of almost all tissue.

18:57 We can come back to food noise too, John. I see that there's such an human body, and yet we do not thing that we consume, because happen when we start to over happens at the expense of other nutrients, and that can also lead to some other challenges in A better guideline than the old was 1.2 milligrams per kilogram of body weight, or, sorry, 1.2 weight. We tend to go now toward about an ounce per pound of body weight, a sort of an easier way to think about it, and that is certainly much higher protein.

19:45 Now, you don't actually have to get to that, but the general thought in making that the guideline is that, because it's so much higher, it will push people toward getting more, and in that effort, they will get the amount that the body really needs. There are certain times where we need more, as we age, our body doesn't break down and assimilate protein as well, so commitment there. Teenagers and growing kids actually need a greater commitment and need more protein than at other times in life, and so if we can sort of work toward that guideline, we'll get there, and with that said, you don't need, like, I have an episode coming up about protein seltzers, like we don't need protein in every single thing, and there are tools, so it's really an individual choice, and figuring out your formula that helps you feel your first thing in the morning we need a protein and fiber pack breakfast within an hour to 90 minutes of waking up that turns on our metabolism, that sets the tone for our blood sugar for the day, and part of that is also working to combat what we all grew up on, of breakfast, which was what DR: eggs and bacon and cereal.

21:11 Trepeck: up on cereal. was my jam with you. Crunch, yeah, DR: it tore up my mouth, but I didn't give a damn, right? Exactly, Jenn Trepeck: Lucky Charms, all right. We grew up, and then remember the commercials, it had the bowl of cereal, toast, and juice, all of which are just sugar bombs throughout the entire body, and so we want to combat that with understanding. So, Dr, what you were saying of eggs, vegetables, some fruit, right, that's how we can get protein and fiber in the morning and set the tone for our blood sugar, set the tone for our energy, set the tone for our mental capacity. All of those pieces start when we wake up. DR: You know, what I've been binging on eating lately is raw green beans.

21:59 I can't get enough of them. It satisfies the crunch, and especially if they come right out of the refrigerator. I mean, I love it. Jenn Trepeck: Awesome, love it. Marc Ronick: Let's see, I want like you're going to bring us discussion, and I want to talk when we think about all of us in grabbing our coffee. What I'm doing, which I'm sure isn't quite approved by you, Jenn, but what I do first thing in the morning, well, first I do no caffeine, I'm just drinking water in my first like hour or so, and then I'll start my morning with a cup of coffee, and I put collagen powder in there to get that protein, I get like 20 grams of protein to kick things off, and then I have my breakfast after we do the show here, but BC, what was your question around all this? BC Babbles: So I was curious, because I'm a big TikTok shopper, as it happens, and I have fallen into the whirlpool of the loaded the protein loaded I've got one downstairs, but I'm not gonna go downstairs and get it, but I pulled up the features, it's 10 grams of protein per 16 ounce serving with 180 milligrams of caffeine, these trendy, almost kind of fad things again that you mentioned earlier, when it comes to new age platforms and new age packaging, and like, what are your thoughts on what to be careful with if and when we decide to explore those new

23:33 options that are being provided to Jenn Trepeck: us? Yeah, great question. I think they're hacks, let's just call them what they are, right? They're hacks, and some of them can be super helpful. On the whole, how much of our day, how much of our nutrition, how much of our sustenance is coming from hacks versus whole food that doesn't have a label that you have to read? So I'll sometimes put a specific kind of fiber powder and coffee. I'll sometimes put collagen powder in something. Is it the staple of my everyday? No. So, can it be helpful? Sure.

24:15 that's not our reliance for Yes. BC Babbles: Gotcha. Jenn Trepeck: You know, the coffee can be helpful for At the same time, our body does better when it does what it's supposed to do, and the digestive track's job is to break a lot of that stuff down, so it doesn't necessarily hit our system the same now, that can have pros and cons, right? Sometimes post workout, I love branch chain amino acids, and some, like a protein powder with creatine and whey, and those branch chain amino acids, because they're easier for the body to absorb, and in that moment.

24:59 And that's what I'm looking for, but over the course of the day, if I'm looking for fuel to last me a while, the way is that it takes time for my system to break it down and assimilate it, so yes, and, and I think everybody's least favorite answer, it depends. Yeah, I mean, that's like our Marc Ronick: tagline here at the Yes, Ralph, go ahead. Ralph Estep Jr.: Yeah, Jenn, I want to go back to podcasting a little bit, because, of course, this audience is podcasters, and Tide, aka Nikki, asked a question in the chat over on Clubhouse, and I think this really leads us back to where we need to go, and she said, How do advice and a true expert? And I thought, as a podcaster who is also an expert in finance, you probably feel that same thing.

25:55 out there that are promoting a the sky things, how do you podcasting world as a true Jenn Trepeck: Yeah, I think question, because this is one of my blood boil all the time. I actually did a different kind of episode last week, different for me, where I sort of got on my soapbox about this a little bit, because it's so frustrating, because the other side is what really pushed my buttons was that there are some really influential voices in podcasting who were making an effort to call out the influencers and what they're calling grifters in this space, and yet they did it with a very opposite one sided kind of conversation, and that frustrated me more than anything, but I think part of that is the difference between podcasting as a long form medium versus social media that is short form, and fundamentally I also have a chapter on this in my book, called My Top Five Tips for Digesting Nutrition News, and I think this applies to social media too.

27:08 When we're seeing these reels or promotions, and it really comes down to if somebody is selling you one thing as the be all end all answer to your problem, too good to be true usually is, and the way something works for one person is not an indication of the way something will work for another. So, even when we see studies like there was one study that came up recently, they looked at 12 people, 12 people is not necessarily indicative of you, and so, why we look at in research, why we look at large sample sizes, is to see can this apply across the board, can we get enough people so that individual variation is less of an impact on the results, so being able to have the podcast of long form content where I can speak to nuance and I do, even in my shorter episodes, half the time I'm going, and you get to decide for yourself, experiment for you, and as long as we understand that what we're doing with ourselves is a little bit of an experiment, and then to Ralph's point, if we can track it and identify which of those are supporting us, which of those are helping us get to how we want to feel every day, and the health outcomes that we're looking for.

28:29 Then we can figure out our personal formula, and you could certainly shorten that coach who can help guide some of some of those pieces where, and work with this one, and play know, all throughout my book, I call it playing with, we're experimenting, we're playing, and being able to speak to that and own that, I think is part of what differentiates me from a are saying that everything is the be all end all answer, and there, with that said, there are fundamentally human biology, the same, so there are some human, and once we get those in place, then those hacks can be that point 1% The things that we know, some of those tweaks in there, but I think fundamentally with expertise it's are we discussing the nuance, are we coming at it from I know everything, are we coming at it with a little bit of humility, and like we started I think that's another really talking to people from a problem. I come at it like this is a we, all of us situation, Ralph Estep Jr.: and I think part of that too, Jenn, and correct me if I'm wrong here.

29:59 A lot of people are out there just looking for clicks, and you things you're going to talk about are hard. Sometimes the things you talk about are fundamental and foundational, and a lot of people don't want to hear that. A lot of people don't want to hear, "Hey, you need to exercise more, you need to eat less, you need to make better choices, and it's got to be tough for you battling against these clowns out there making 32nd TikTok videos about something that's sensational, bandwagon, and here you're doing lived experience, has that been a struggle as well? Jenn Trepeck: So fundamentally, we don't need to eat less, we need to eat nutrition, so we'll come back to that in a second, but yes and no, because going with the business background, my clicks, so I'm okay not doing the click bait headline, because that's not how I've structured my practice, that's not the end goal that I'm after, so as we consume that, it's a great question for us to ask ourselves to the person that we're listening to, what's their end goal?

31:11 Is their entire practice based on these clicks, you know, and those headlines that are so baby, you know, are they getting, they're getting our attention for a reason, and then challenging part, is that especially in this space, we want somebody else to do a lot of that critical thinking, and so it can be a lot, and if those things are really distracting, if those things, going back to John, who was talking about food is contributing to that food noise and that constant conversation. Every single app has completely reset your algorithm.

31:51 You do not have to consume the stuff that stuff that you know starts to get in your head and drive you crazy and make you feel like you know everything you're doing is wrong, because that's not helpful either. Marc Ronick: Let me, I want to bring this directly to our audience for a second, because well, a lot of podcasters and creators, we spend, you know, this hours sitting, editing, recording, writing, planning, promoting all the things, often working under a lot of stress, right. So, since your work is about making health fit real life, how would you help someone in that kind of lifestyle start over complicating things? Jenn Trepeck: Absolutely.

32:34 So, it goes back to what we started: protein and fiber. Protein is clean, lean protein. Eat what you like, don't eat what you don't like, right? Fiber is vegetables and sometimes fruit. Start your day with that combination, and every time we eat, we need that combination. And then a couple times a day, we're also going to add some quality fat. That kind of fuel allows us to have sustained energy and mental focus, so if you're finding that you sit down to do something, and then we're pops up, and all of these other pieces, and we're trying to edit, but everything else is Look at how we're fueling ourselves. Are we setting ourselves up to have focus?

33:15 Movement is also tremendous, so if you're feeling like, oh, you're sitting here, and your eyes are closing, you know, you can't keep your eyes open. Pause. Do Marc Ronick: you see Jenn Trepeck: right? So, this might not work while we're recording, but my favorite, like 92nd to two minute trick, we call it 3030 30. You're gonna do three different exercises, 30 repetitions of each, I did a whole bunch of different variations of this for a nutrition nugget, a bite-size episode of my show. They all took less than two minutes. You don't get sweaty, you don't have to change your clothes, right? You could do 30 squats, 30 arm circles, 30 crunches, you could do 30 jumping jacks, 30 push-ups, like you could do any combination of three things, 30 of each. It gets the blood moving, that blood flow, especially to your brain, and getting yourself breathing oxygen to the brain. You will be shocked at how much energy you have. When I start a speaking engagement, oftentimes one of people stand up and sit down is? Three squats, right?

34:25 All of a sudden their brain is turned back on, they are able to focus, their breathing is happening again. So, even if we're sitting for two minute 3030 30, stand up every time. Yeah, go ahead. Isn't Marc Ronick: it true that the when we're doing exercises, specifically leg exercises, that that's one of the best things we can do for our brains, because I've heard that, like, it sends a lot of blood flow to and from the brain when we're exercising our leg muscles. Jenn Trepeck: Yeah, so your group when you. Take your quads, your hamstrings, and your glutes. It is by far the most muscle mass on your body. So, a squat engages all of those when done properly. So, yes, it's tremendous for blood flow, it's tremendous for longevity.

35:17 By the way, you want to live by yourself into, you know, ripe old age of however old, do A squat is how you get up off the toilet. Marc Ronick: Yeah, Jenn Trepeck: so you know longevity is muscle, and by the way, I think we've all heard, like, sitting is the new smoking, Marc Ronick: yeah, Jenn Trepeck: right, yeah. And it's because it's this thing that we do that we don't realize is slowly killing us, like back in the day. Well, the tobacco companies knew, but the rest of us, right, back in the day, everybody smoked. So the thing about it now is that sitting all day is not human. Well, it's also not human to sit all day and go berserk for an hour.

35:59 What is human is small bits of can set an alarm to go off every three to five minutes, those small spurts throughout the day add up and really fuel your body, making your life much more human biology focused than some of these wild, intense workouts that we feel like we don't have time for when we're on a deadline Marc Ronick: that makes a lot of sense. And before we continue, because I know Ralph has a question, I just want to - I saw in the chat Janae had asked if you could repeat your book again, and then why don't you just, for just a quick minute, share anywhere else you'd like our audience to go find you. Jenn Trepeck: Well, thank you.

36:44 My book is called Uncomplicating Wellness: Ditch the Rules, Quiet be found wherever books are sold online in your bookstore. They have to order it, but it's available to them, and everywhere on the internet. I'm at Jenn Trepeck, J E N N T R E P E C K, website is a salad with a side of fries.com Podcast is Salad with a Side of Fries. We could have that conversation with everybody of these creators. Salad with a side of fries.com was like a stupid amount of money, and so I did A Salad with a Side of fries.com for the URL. Marc Ronick: I was going to ask you about that, and I didn't want to be on the spot, but okay, that makes sense. Jenn Trepeck: Yeah, now what's wild is that I own the trademark salad with a side of fries, and yet that URL is owned by one of those people who like buy up a million URLs and then try to resell them.

37:37 I've tried to reach out to them to be like I own this trademark, you are not going to sell this to someone else, and it is not worth anymore what you think it is, because I am your only buyer. over on YouTube wants to know if the book is an audio book. Jenn Trepeck: So the audio book is coming. Marc Ronick: Okay. Jenn Trepeck: Yes. Marc Ronick: All right, we'll be Jenn Trepeck: soon. Yes. Marc Ronick: Well, we'll be on the lookout, and Ralph, I know I teased that you have another question, but I do, since John also had a few different questions for you here in the YouTube chat. So let me go to this one, because this is such a hot topic right now in the world of weight loss. He's asking about your thoughts on Ozempic.

38:19 Jenn Trepeck: Yes, I have a lot of thoughts, and I have quite a few episodes on this, going back These pharmaceuticals are that approval of them is based each of us individually. We have to assess that cost benefit and cost benefit short term versus cost benefit long term. We really don't know. We don't have enough data of this kind of mass usage in the long term. Before I get to what I believe is happening with it, I will say absolutely life changing and I love that they are changing the conversation for people to understand that weight management is not a moral problem or a willpower problem, it is biochemical.

39:16 The other side of that is there is more than one hormone or peptide involved, and so I think part of the drawback is that we now have this hyper awareness around one piece of this puzzle, and with that, if we rely on one piece to solve the entire puzzle, that does not equate to long term health, if we can use that as a tool in the bigger scheme of how we're living our life to create health and vitality and longevity. Then it can be really powerful if we have a plan for how to get off of the medication. It can be really powerful when I work with doctors and I work.

39:59 Their patients before, during, and after these medications. It's amazing. I do see a lot of people who are using the medications instead of making other choices, instead of addressing other pieces of the pie, no pun intended. And that's where I see tremendous drawback over time. I have grave concern that these are create like to me GLP one drugs are our generation statin, so a vast majority of adults are on a statin, a cholesterol lowering medication, and yet heart disease is still the number one killer in this they adopt Western lifestyle, it in those countries, so my concern is that we are adjusting blood work without that translating into essentially all cause vitality rather than all cause mortality. Ralph Estep Jr.: Hey, Jenn, can I jump in there for a second? Because I'm actually on Manjaro, myself, I don't do a lot of the traditional medical things, but when my doctor said to me, Ralph, your A 1c is 13, you have I said, I've got to do something, and I will be honest with you, when I first started, I was like, well, that's cool, I thing that, and I think you and I are going to be on the same page here, it's not just that one thing, but when I change my

41:31 lifestyle, when I exercise every morning, it's what it's funny how you and I met, actually, we were in power podcasting too, and we were in the gym on one of the mornings of the conference, and it was very cool to see somebody else in there, because I was about here by myself. But when I finally changed my where you're going with this, is Yes, I can honestly say that today I am no longer a diabetic because of that. I am down 200 pounds because of that, but not just because of that, because I changed my lifestyle, I exercise, I eat intentionally, and that's the thing I think is the scary part of this is that so many people think, well, I can take this injection now, I can take these pills, and it's this magic pill that's going to solve everything. Listen to me, and listen to Jenn, I'm sure she's going to agree with me here, it's not the magic pill, it will help you. It's a tool to help get you there, but I agree with you. I think in so many ways people are buying into this hype of just do this and it'll fix your problems, but you can be extremely unhealthy on GLP ones as well. Do you agree with what I said there? Jenn Trepeck: Yes, and that's what I'm saying, as far as having a plan, letting it be a piece of the plan versus the entire plan.

42:44 Ralph Estep Jr.: Now that's So, let me ask you one more question. Then we're going to talk about PPA, but I want to go through this question one more. So many people feel stuck in this cycle of losing weight, I did it for 50 years, not 50 years, but 40 years. What's the first shift they need to make? Like, what's the one takeaway they're listening to you today? What's the one thing they can do today to finally break this cycle that so many of us find ourselves stuck in? Jenn Trepeck: Protein, fiber, So little phrase that I give everybody, if you're a longtime listener of salad with a side of fries, you know this one: protein and fiber at every meal makes removing fat no big deal. Proper serving of protein is four to six ounces for a female body, six to eight ounces for a male body at a meal. For everybody, a snack is two to three ounces. So your whole hand is a meal, your palm or a little less is a snack.

43:36 Vegetables, fruit, that's our fiber. Over the course of a day, we want to aim for eight to 12 handfuls of vegetables, quality fat a couple times a day, half an avocado, small handful of those kinds of pieces. Start with those pieces fundamentally, and you are going to notice so much change. DR: Can I ask a question about Does it matter the source of the powder, as opposed to get me getting it in scrambled eggs? Jenn Trepeck: Yes, eggs and perfect proteins. They contain all of the essential amino acids. If we are looking at plant-based sources, we have to have a greater commitment to understanding the amino acid profiles.

44:27 You get to choose. If that's not something you want to start to pay attention to, eat the animal protein. You know, whey is better for building muscle than other kinds of protein powders. Your whey as a complete protein versus your pea and rice protein that are plant-based that are then not a complete amino acid profile, so you have to decide for yourself, and if that's not something that you want to pay attention to, then great, stick with some of those. Animal sources, and call it a day. The more we can choose foods that do not have a label that we need to read, like a protein powder, the better off we're going to be.

45:09 Our body knows what to do with those things across the board. Marc Ronick: Thank you, Jenn. shift from your, your expertise in health and wellness to something that you're helping space. You're one of the co-founders of the Podcast Professionals Association, which serves podcast service professionals, that means the producers, the editors, the managers, the accountants, all the all the different areas that we are, as professionals helping podcasters exist and grow, so what were you seeing in this space in the podcast industry that made you feel like this kind of association needs to exist?

45:54 Jenn Trepeck: Yes, so in up doing a lot of podcast Tracy DeForge is the co-founder of the Podcast Professionals Association. She and I did some consulting for Simplecast and SiriusXM, and in a lot of those conversations, what we saw across the board in the industry is tremendous support for the advertisers, then there's all these other people in the middle who are all operating in silos and trying to, I hate that word, but trying to figure out how to build a business in this ecosystem, and at the same time, drop-down menus. So, what we saw was sort of this bifurcation of support, and we said there needs to be something that helps all of the other people in the middle create sustainable businesses and stay at the forefront of this growing industry, because it is our fundamental belief that if we support the marketers, the booking agencies, the podcast production agencies, the engineers, and all of these people in the middle, who help creators create content and better content that also creates the platforms for the

47:29 advertisers to be investing in, and so by supporting this middle ecosystem and help creators create better content that allows the advertisers and people to put more money into the space, so the Podcast Professionals Association was born as the industry's only nonprofit trade association that Marc Ronick: Okay, perfect. And Dr, you had a follow-up question, go ahead. DR: Yeah, so I'm a podcast producer. Jenn Trepeck: Yeah, DR: and if I join today, how what benefits do I get from it?

48:09 How does it help me? Jenn Trepeck: Great question. We have two virtual events every month. One is called Inspire and 30 minute presentations, and A, so very in-depth, but keep us at the forefront of the industry. It's all of us learning and growing. Sometimes those speakers are from our membership, sometimes those speakers are other experts, sometimes those speakers are completely talking about not even about podcasting, but about So, the Inspire and Inquire event happens every month, and then we also have a Wisdom Forum event. So, this is more like water cooler talk.

48:50 If you've ever been to a podcast conference, these are the conversations that happen in the hallway when we're at these conferences. So, we have them every month. There's no agenda. It's 75 minutes. People show up with what they have going on. So, we have talked about firing clients, we have talked about pricing, we have talked about the last one last week. We talked a lot about some consumption data, and how do we make sense of this consumption data? We even talk strategy about one person's clients specifically. It's like a mastermind, you know, once a month with whatever anybody has going on, and in addition to that, we have a lot of visibility opportunities. So we just led a webinar for creators sponsored by our partner Audience Lift, so that was highlighting our members as the experts for creators who they could then reach out to after the fact, we have a track at Empowered Podcasting Conference, so that we can help highlight and elevate our members, put them in front of their potential clients.

49:49 Members also have the chance to write a column for Pod News, so we have a monthly column in Pod News, and lots of visibility opportunities at bigger industry conferences as well. And we are, oh, one of the last year is benefits, so insurance, life insurance, these kinds of benefits that group rates for solopreneurs, the Podcast Professionals yourself, if all of your for you is also 1099 this can be to those people. Oh, we have a lot of stuff in the works and a lot more on the horizon.

50:35 So, for more information on that, you go to Podcast Professionals association.com So, if you're just getting started, we love you, and it is about established longevity, and I suppose you know really having a thriving business in this space to qualify as a podcast professional. Marc Ronick: Very cool, and I was surprised he hasn't heard a couple years now, right? How long have we been doing this? Jenn Trepeck: So we opened up full membership in like 2024 so it is very new. It has been complete organic growth, so yeah, we're not surprised that you haven't heard about it, and the answer on that, you know, key word on that is yet, Marc Ronick: right?

51:20 Well, he has now, and it's a, it's a great concept. Appreciate that it exists. I guess I was one of the first to be a part of that. I think we had our first together. Yes, we did that at a pod fest right before that, right before 2024 I guess, or maybe it was that year. But yeah, so lots of great people involved in that, and looking forward to seeing how this evolves over time as I think it's a great effort, and yeah, I'm proud to support it however I can. And Jenn, I'm also proud that you were a part of this show today. Thank you for all of your I think that this was a nice far as all the things that we wellness, we don't talk enough So, thank you for bringing that today.

52:08 Jenn Trepeck: Well, thank you, at Salad with a side of fries. Marc Ronick: That's right, yes. different ways you can connect check that out. And remember that tomorrow we're covering all things podcast news, so we'll share some of the big headlines around the world of podcasting, and our thoughts and opinions on that as well. So, come join us at Podcasting Morning show.com/join us. So, until tomorrow, make it a great day, everybody. Take care.