502. Tools and Tech That Make Podcasting Faster and Easier

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1:20 Good morning again podcasting Morning Chat. Thank you so much for being here. I am your host Mark Ronick and currently on stage with me we have Dr. Faye, Ralph Estep, Jonathan Howard, Matt Bliss, Nick Nolback, and Tide AKA Nikki has also joined us from the audience again this morning. And anybody from the audience is welcome to join us here on Clubhouse. And if you want to figure out how to join us here or how to join us over on our different video streams as we stream live, just go to podcastingmorningchat.com/join us and you can do that immediately. So today we didn't finish our news stories from yesterday.

2:02 There was a lot of tech stories about different new pieces of gear, updates to popular applications that podcasters use. So we figured, let's spill that into today because a little side note that maybe we haven't really made official on Thursdays, we try to make it a little more techie. That could be. It's a pretty wide range of things, but yet sometimes it might be equipment, sometimes it might be software, sometimes it may be all of the above. We'll today get into the news side of that. But first, I have a couple of little things I wanted to share with you. First, a community shout out if you've been following us since we rebooted our podcast evaluation series.

2:47 We used to do that maybe a couple of years ago and then we brought it back probably, I don't know, maybe 5-6 months ago, one of the first ones, if not the first one. Dr. might remember if it was the first one, but there was a show called the Runner's Soul that we broke down soul spelled SOLE and the host is a it was the first. OK cool. And the host was is a podiatrist, Dr. Sharon Miller, and she posted to our Facebook group just recently. Maybe it was last night and it was a milestone that she shared with us. She her show just hit 2500 downloads and what stood out to me most is that her post wasn't really about the number. It was really more about the impact that it's made on her. She shared that there were moments early on where she questioned whether the podcast was worth the time or whether anyone would even listen.

3:44 But hearing from runners and her own patients that it's helping them is what's kept her going. For her, this podcast is about helping people understand their feet better, deal with pain, and keep going with more confidence. That's a beautiful reminder of what podcasting can do. So thank you for sharing that. Sharon or Doctor Miller. I think it's OK that I call her Sharon. And it was such a pleasure breaking down your show, bringing that series back with your show. And Sharon even reached out to me personally at the end of March because she hadn't even realized that we had evaluated her show until just recently, even though, like I said, that was probably like 5 or 6 months ago. And she's asked, she wants to resubmit. She's got new shows now, she's taken some of our advice and she wants us to break it down again.

4:34 So I've told her to absolutely submit and we will get to that. Tomorrow we'll announce what show we're going to be evaluating next. Somebody from the community who's submitted their show. We will share that more with you tomorrow, right? So the way I want to do this, I want to bring back a segment that we haven't done in so long. It's our icebreaker segment. This is something where I just like to warm us up based on what we're going to be talking about for the rest of the show. So this is a tech related question, shouldn't be too difficult to find an answer. What's one piece of podcasting gear or software, AI excluded, that you can't live without? And I say AI excluded because I think I could make a case that almost all of us could probably point to an AI tool that's something that we're in currently feeling like we couldn't live without.

5:28 So I just want to get that off the table and get to some of the more traditional stuff. And again, it doesn't have to be hardware. It can be software, apps or something else that I'm not thinking of at the moment, so let's go. I'll jump right in there and I'll tell you what mine is my 24 inch prompter sitting right here in front of me as I talk here on camera. I started off with the Elgato, the little one that looked like a little mini iPad. And I guess about a year ago I moved up to the prompter people's 27 inch. And this is a piece of technology that I truly cannot live without at this point. It has made a huge impact on me. I do video first O videos 1st and eye contacts important for me O that's where if you ask about tech gear that I have to have that is it to my friend. I love that.

6:14 Yeah, I would love to see that in action. It's been a long time since I've seen a true teleprompter meaning in size, because I'm using the Elgato teleprompter and I use it right now even though I'm not, I don't even have a script up on my screen right now, but I'm just using it to look at Ralph, to look at BC, who has joined us this morning as well. So yeah, I mean, I love it for that. And when I do use the script, one of the things I have to do is really blow it up because the Elgato Teleprompter is a lot smaller than 24 inches. I think it's maybe 11 inches I believe, or at least the newest one is. Mine might even be a little smaller than that. So yeah, BC did you want to chime in about that? Yeah, I would say right now the piece I cannot live without is the one that I purchased as a result of inspiration from last year's Empowered Podcasting conference, which is the Sure MV7 Plus. Previously I had a Yeti microphone which doesn't have the best or really all that great noise cancellation. So I ended up buying a pop filter, a windscreen, an isolator, putting this whole apparatus around it just to make it sound crisp and clean without having to do too much post production on the sound.

7:27 But the shirt takes care of so much of it and it wasn't a crazy huge purchase, which I'm really happy about. It was just a tiny splurge and I'm really happy with the quality now. So this is my go to piece at this point for podcasting. Yeah, I can see that. I mean, a microphone for sure. And that is a great microphone. I love sure microphones in general. And I hate the Yeti. It is so challenging. It's just so challenging to work with. And I'm curious, you know what, I'm going to go to Matt real quick because Matt, maybe you as one of our more techie people on stage, you may have some thoughts. You know, the Blue Yeti is often criticized by podcasters, especially the more experienced ones. And I always think it's really more about what kind of mic it is, not the brand. In other words, I know that it is not a dynamic mic, it's a condenser mic.

8:17 And the condenser mics do tend to pick up a lot more room noise and make it a lot more challenging if you're not in a perfect room environment. So Matt, my question to you, is it really, is it the Yeti that's really the problem or is it that the Yeti is a condenser mic? A Yeti is a category of a mic all of its own. Part of the reason for this is that it's a design that hasn't changed over time. The difference between dynamic and condenser microphones isn't as significant as we'd give it credibility based on the experience of the Yeti, but I think the thing that captures this perfectly is a comparison video. Tom Buck did I think a couple of years ago now where he had an older Blue Yeti, bought a newer 1 which is probably 8 years difference between the two, and compared the internal construction of it. Now the Yeti design is multi something, can't remember the name, but it does cardioid, it does omnidirectional, it does front and back, which I don't think many mics do. But there is so many internal stuff that make it a great marketing product that they can sell very easily. And then people buy the mic doesn't do exactly what it needs to do for them or makes them not sound good. And then it's a bad experience after they've bought it that I think they just don't invest in making a quality microphone at the end of the day.

9:40 Now the rationalization that you asked in your question mark, is it just dynamics and condensers or is the Yeti just crap? It's the Yeti being crap because the environment, there is an environment in which Yeti. The Yeti mic works well, and I do, I want to do this a lot. Like I've got a Yeti beside me, but I don't. I think the Yeti gets a bad reputation because the marketing is so strong and the SEO is so strong on it. So what I'd recommend for anyone who has a Yeti or is staring at that Yeti microphone right now and going, oh man, Matt's telling me I've got a crap microphone. You don't. But if you want to get the most out of it, treat your environment, optimize your position, choose a cardioid position, make sure that the gain is all the way down, and then take it for another spin. And then work on your post production. Because the opinion that I still have today, I will fight anybody on this is that a Blue Yeti is not a good microphone for podcasts, but it makes great podcasters. Because it's like getting given a beat up Volkswagen Beetle that doesn't work, having to spend 6 months making it, you know, drive good and then you jump in a Volkswagen Golf and it's the most amazing thing you've ever driven. And that's why B CS jump from the Blue Yeti to the Shaw MV7 would have been amazing.

11:02 Even though I don't have a positive opinion about Shaw microphones. But I will yield the rest of my time lest I continue about microphones for too long. And let me know if you want more about my opinion. Cool. Yeah. I mean, I do want to keep going, but you do have my attention that you don't love the Shores because I think the Shores are just such well built, great sounding microphones. But everybody, to each their own. And maybe that's another conversation because I do want to hear from a few more people. But thank you, Matt. I think that was a awesome breakdown of that microphone and what makes it the way it is. I'll put it that way. All right, let's go to DRDRI. Think you wanted to answer the question what's one piece of podcasting gear or software, AI excluded, that you can't live without?

11:49 Well, this is kind of AI adjacent because the editing software that I use is called Resound FM and it uses basically AI to catch all those gaps and umms and AWS and stuff. And I also like Adobe Enhance Voice, enhance the paid version. It's very important to separate the paid version from the free version because the free version is really crap. But the paid version you have some control over, you know, the gauges and stuff. So those are my 2. OK. Thank you, Dr. Thank you for the short concise answer. Much appreciated.

12:30 And by the way, I'm going to adjust the question slightly. AI, when I say IAI excluded, I'm going to be specific and say no LLM models, no Chat GPTS, no claws, none of that stuff, right? And I say that because, John, you put something in the chat that is, if I'm not mistaken, somewhat AI built. But I wanted you to share one of the tools that you shared here in the chat. Would you be open to doing that? Sure, the one of the tools that I love is I love a phonic. A phonic does a great job of fixing blue Yeti microphone issue. Yeah. I say that Blue Yetis, it's a great mic if you know how to use it.

13:12 The problem is most people don't know how to use it right. They put it in the middle of the table and it sounds like they're in the hallway or in the bathroom talking, right. So it's not really the microphone, it's just that no one knows how to use it. But a Phonic does fix a lot of issues. I like it a little bit better than Adobe Enhanced because to me I feel that Adobe Enhance over compresses it a little bit. So that's one of the things that I use. Yeah, me too. And phonics been around for years and still I don't feel like enough people know about it. And it's interesting to me. I tend to get curious about the real, I call them audio files, the people who real like John, who's an audio guy, he's an engineer, he's a producer, he's an editor. And I always wondered how that group of people feel about these kinds of tools like Offonic.

14:10 And it's cool to hear that somebody like John is embracing it because I know that there are some out there that really, you know, they just want to go in and manipulate every little piece of the audio themselves to enhance it. They feel like that's the best way to go. But I agree with John that Offonic really does a great job of that. And it provides you with lots of different, the ability to do lots of different tweaks to the audio. It's not just get here's my audio now make it sound better. You can actually go in there and make certain adjustments. So yeah, I'm with you, John. I'm a big fan. Been using it for a long, long time. Thank you for sharing that. Would anyone else like to answer the icebreaker before we dig into some headlines? Yes, Matt, go for it.

14:54 My original answer was going to be before Yeti nonsense was that my bit of tech that I don't think I could do without is the mic I'm currently using which is the Electro voice RE320. The just talking about Orphonic having a great post production plug in tool to fix any microphone is excellent. But the thing I love about this microphone after doing a Blue Yeti Shore MV7, there's another microphone in there too, but I've forgotten the name of it. This is my end game mic because I've had people compliment the sound of the voice that comes out of this thing with my voice and it requires very little effort to make it sound good. And I think for every voice there is an ideal microphone, it just takes a long time to find it. I think I've found it so the Electra voice RE320. Awesome.

15:42 Thank you, Matt. Another vote for a microphone. I think my vote for me if at least in this very moment because I'm sure it changes by the day as far as equipment or tech that I can't live without in the realm of podcasting, I would say maybe it's my Rd. caster Pro too. I use it for everything. I'm not even just using it for podcasting. I mean, I use it for my Zoom calls when I have meetings with clients. It's yeah, because I use a Mac mini. My Mac mini doesn't have a built in mic as far as I know. It does have audio out, but not very good audio. So I just tend to stay plugged right into my Rd. Caster Pro doing most of the work, most of the listening, etcetera all through that and I just love it.

16:29 I love the sound pads. As you know, I love pressing buttons even though I often press the wrong ones, but I still love it. It makes me feel like I'm sitting in a radio studio doing the radio thing, but a little less complicated. Those radio boards are quite complex and gigantic, and it can be intimidating if you don't know what you're doing with those. But yeah, so that would be mine, the Road Caster Pro 2. And yeah, if it left, if I had to, if it got went away for whatever reason, then I'd probably go lean on my Zoom P4 next the new model. But I don't love it nearly as much as I love the Road Caster Pro 2. I know that Cliff Ravenscraft sings its praises, but it is not perfect in my opinion. The biggest thing I don't like about the P4 is the fact that you can't control the volume on the sound pads that it has. So it's really just you can actually, but it's you have to press a lot of buttons and dig into the settings and adjust it from there.

17:31 It's not an on the fly slider thing that you can just adjust as you go. And for that, not a big fan. All right, anyone else want to share before I hit the news Music? If I could, I would just say that the the P4 next, it has applications. If you're going to take it on the road, it's great for interviews, it's good for that kind of thing, But you know, the road caster, either the duo or the two, It just seems to me it's just a hardier and it doesn't break or it does. You don't usually have issues with it. And that's what I love about it too.

18:12 So I think they both can be good, but you know, and also the cost, you know, the, the P4 is like, what's it almost, it's like 175 hours and the other one is 500 to, you know, 700 hours. So that's a big, if you're trying to get into something, I think that the P4 is good for a beginner and then you can graduate. Totally agree with you, John. Yeah, thank you for chiming in with that. Yeah, I agree. A great for a beginner, great for on the go, yeah. But I think if you want something more permanent and if you're more experienced, if you know you're in this for the long haul, then that upgrade to the Road Caster Pro 2 or the duo, I think makes a lot of sense.

18:52 Thank you for sharing that, John. And we're going to go from John to Jonathan. Jonathan, I know you wanted to share. Go for it. Yeah, I'm just, and I'll be really quick. I'm just going to say for a solo podcaster who does all the editing, everything, Riverside is my my best friend because I can do it all there. It's very simple. I can conduct interviews there. It's I love working with Riverside because it makes it easy for a solo podcaster. I'm with you, Jonathan. I agree. I think it is great for somebody who's doing it all themselves who isn't experienced in this industry, especially meaning on the technical side. I think that Riverside's a great entry point that allows you to do a lot of things with it, especially with the editing tool that it has. There are a lot of different things. You can add transitions and B roll and do all the things and it makes it relatively easy for somebody just starting out. The one thing I will say is I actually agree with Dave Jackson, who's just posted something recently, I think yesterday about Riverside, which is overall great tool. He didn't recommend it, nor do I, just for one major thing and that is for hosting if you want it to. If you wanted to use it to distribute your podcast to all the platforms, it's not going to distribute currently to all the platforms.

20:15 It's only going to go to Apple, Spotify and YouTube. And I think that if you're going to go to a hosting provider, you want one that's going to get it to all the different channels. And also their statistics, their analytics are a little a little weak. They don't have many yet. And these are all things they know and that they have shared that they will be working toward. And I respect that they're not doing everything at once. But for that particular spot, I would say if that's what you're looking for specifically, Riverside may not be the one. Go ahead, John. My question is that I would love to try Riverside but I've seen so many people have issues with it and I would love it to use it for live streaming.

21:00 But then again I hear there's a lot of issues with it and it terrifies me. Like I said, I've been using Stream Yard for years now and it's all it's reliable. I would love to be able to use Riverside. I have a couple clients that use it and I go in there and edit their videos and the audio and it's great for that but they have problems where it locks up and I don't know. So you use it, so you have problems. I don't, but I'll tell you what, I did have problems a couple years ago when I was, and it was when I was using an older machine, an older computer, when I upgraded a little over a year ago to the Mac mini and I got, you know, the, it's pretty much the latest model. I souped it up a little bit more than the basic model so that it had a lot of power, would last me longer through the next several years.

21:54 And I think that's a big thing. I think that's where people have a hard time. It's just a guess, but I think what those people that complain that it may be this, it locks up or sometimes I've heard some people talk about audio drifting as an issue with Riverside. I believe that has a lot to do with the computer not being able to handle the software. So if you have a good computer I think you will you will have a good experience with Riverside. If you have an older computer that probably needs to be updated it you may not have a great experience with Riverside. That's just my personal experience I saw at BC. Did you want to chime in? Yeah, I was going to say too, I've used OTS and in Streamlabs myself before and have switched to Riverside for live streaming when I do it. And as much as you know, even being on the show here and seeing what we go through sometimes has me worried every now and then.

22:50 At the same time, you really just can't beat out how comparatively, Riverside still takes each input as its own separate thing, whereas with Streamlabs, it's all one recording. You can't post facto divvy out a certain input channel and kind of recalibrate or reoriented. And so with Riverside's ability to do that, it's like I can see the concerns with every now and then something hiccups. My only ever beef with Riverside is just when, for whatever reason, it takes longer than it should for something to process. That's the only hiccup I really ever deal with. Beyond that, though, you really just can't beat the ability of Riverside to really Orient things properly and give you a really good final product. Yep, thank you BC and I really think that the the Riverside problems with live streaming that we've personally experienced, I think that's had a lot to do with my Internet connection.

23:47 And I think if anybody's noticed this week, it's been knock on woods very smooth sailing. I think. So that's another thing is your Internet connection having a wired connection versus Wi-Fi, I think that's advice anybody would give for any type of live streaming that you're doing, is plug in as opposed to depending on that Wi-Fi. And I've depended on it for a long time and it worked great, but then it didn't. So now I'm just eliminating that problem by plugging in. So yeah, I think if your computer is good, your Internet's good, I think Riverside is a great choice. So that's, yeah, John, we could always talk, if you want, about your computer setup and all that, if we can see if it's a good match.

24:28 But I would also recommend just to do a free trial and see what you think. Yeah, Well, I have a Mac mini. I've pretty much had the same setup as you do, as you're talking about it. I have the Mac mini and I would love the producer mode because I have a producer that puts sound drops in as we do. So I would love that. Also. Like I said, it has so many bells and whistles, but I used to say if you can't get a good recording, all those bells and whistles, really it's an issue. But again, if you know, I will give it a try. I definitely will give it a try. Awesome, well let me know if you need anything and let me know what you think once you do start giving it a whirl. Tim, did you want to chime in before I move into the news? Yeah, I I did want to chime in.

25:12 I don't use Riverside. I've looked at it and but I use the script squad cast for my remote interviews and I know the script has their rooms that they're going to be phasing out Squad cast from what I understand. And the thing I hate about rooms is you cannot set that up in advance. It is only, you know, you, you set up the room and then you share the link. But I'm hoping that the script Captivate don't go the route that Riverside does because I think Riverside, I like the concept, but they're trying to do everything and we already see the limitations that you can only get your stuff on Apple podcast, Spotify and YouTube. So that was just my $0.02.

26:02 Yeah. Thank you, Tim. Great points. There's a lot of factors to consider, but I do suggest that if you're curious about it, I'm a big fan of Riverside. I endorse Riverside and I would encourage you to give it a try, see what you think. But yeah, these are all important factors to consider. All right, yes, I'm pausing because I'm trying to think where to go next. I think we will just dig in to the news and I'm going to start with BC because we were trying to get to his segment first BCS trying to on our Wednesday Newsdays, trying to bring the latest in tech news. So I figured this is a perfect place to start with BC.

26:42 I know you've got two stories, one about Adobe Premiere Pro and I think one about Rd. Speaking of Rd. Casters, so go for it. Correct. So we'll start off with Adobe this morning. And so Adobe just partnered up with Speech Maddox, a new to launch a new on device speech to text system inside of Adobe Premiere. So what's actually new, What this brings to the table is that transcription will now happen locally on your device when using Premiere, not go to the cloud and transcribe there. So this means it'll finally make sure everything stays on your computer. It's not sending any anything out to external servers. It stays right where you are when you're recording.

27:26 The great news here is that even though it's not going to the cloud, you can expect cloud level performance. One hour of audio should be processed in about 55 seconds, which is great. The core selling point here is again privacy and data control. So this is great for anyone who by chance has pre released media or has corporate content, which means it's great for journalists and enterprise creators. You also have great real world speech systems built in for accents, non-native speakers and for noisy environments. So this is a pretty cool addition to Adobe Premiere, which is my typical go to video production platform when I'm not using Riverside. I am one of those who loves to have my hands on all the things in a nice work session to see what I'm doing to create a masterpiece, so this is definitely a cool new thing for me to use whenever I'm hopping back into the Adobe train. Awesome.

28:20 OK, so Adobe Premiere Pro, yes, yeah, check that out if you're in a Adobe Premiere Pro user. What is our next story about Rd. BC? So ROAD made a number of announcements at NAB Show this year, which is just one of the many reasons I am really turked and tipped off that I could not make it to NAB Show. And I'm gonna say this right now. If you have even the slightest, especially as a podcaster, the slightest interest in media slash media tech and you have not gone to NAB Show, which always happens in Las Vegas, you are missing out. Your preferences or thoughts of Sin City aside, this is a go to week long event. You just you got to go.

29:01 I'm dying to go to I've. Never been. I'm always envious when I start seeing video and pictures from the event. Man maybe I'll go with you BC the next to the next one and I was telling Mark in the chat. Yesterday I went one time in 2015. I've been to a numerous week long event since then to this day and maybe show is the top I've ever experienced anyway, so it's a row the announcement. So Sonora, a tiny microphone technology component will be part of the upcoming new microphones from Rd. We also have new products announced, including ones that are aimed specifically at video podcasting. We got the road link to a new wireless microphone system, the LPA 1A new low profile microphone arm for precision placement without visual obstruction, the DS3A desktop studio arm and a pod mic flag, a bespoke flag for the pod mic to put your podcast logo on the actual microphone. We also have Roadcaster studio.

30:03 We'll be adding an edit like Word document editor to the system with automatic filler word replacements and AI editing. And of course, Rode Capture, a mobile phone recording app will finally be made available for Android users. So hey, for me and VR and Nick and Nick. Yes. So that is the bundle of what Rode was able to let any of you show know about this year in Vegas, where again, I was not. So, you know, whatever. Yeah. And I guess really. The interesting part of that story is that Rode being more of an audio company for so long like that, they've always produced audio equipment.

30:44 Now really doubling down on the video side of things. Although that micro sized microphone that they were that you mentioned at the top, that sounds pretty cool, very interesting. And actually, you know, we had a mailbag question for today too. It it reminded me to go to it because you were talking about their new low profile arms for the microphones and Meredith Hack with Edwards of the curious introvert podcast. She's she's a member of this community, just doesn't doesn't make it here live in the mornings, but she talks to me all the time saying that she listens to the show. She gives me feedback about the show and we've kind of deemed each other virtual Co workers.

31:26 We often bounce ideas and thoughts and client troubleshooting etcetera from each other. So I appreciate her reaching out and participating in today's show. She said I'd love to know what boom arm and mic stand people are loving right now. I record at a chest height table and I'm looking for something adjustable that looks good on camera. And I would first say whatever you do, it's actually I believe my personal thing here that I like to do when it comes to arms and stands. I think a good looking stand or arm is one that you don't see or don't see much of, right? So looking good on camera would mean it's actually not seen on camera. Yes.

32:12 And I see those on video here are demonstrating Vanna White style their microphones and how it's not seen. Mine is a little bit seen here at the bottom part of it, but I'm OK with how it shows up on camera. And I think that would be my biggest advice. If you're not going, which I know some people are adamant about not using lav mics for their podcast, I won't go there even though I feel a little differently about it. But I would say just go with something that's low profile. I'm using the Elgato low profile arm and I love it because it feels really sturdy. It has sections where you can hide the wires so you don't see the wire all over the place, which I think is really nice looking.

32:53 Again, if it does appear on camera, that's a nice touch is that you don't see all the wires everywhere and it feels really sturdy. It just feels like a strong, durable arm and it holds up my heavy sure SM 7B. So that would be my personal recommendation. Janae is on stage. Janae, did you want to comment on this? And I know you know Meredith as well, I believe. Hey, good morning, everyone. I. Guess that's an excellent question and there are many different ways and you have to really think about what your final product's going to be. For example, we've seen Ralph go through three different stages from having that microphone in front of him than going to the microphone that's above him that you can't see it all.

33:40 Kind of like a Netflix style TV, you know, capture versus now he's got this beautiful looking microphone. Again, it all comes down to the user and what they want out of their their show and the look and feel. So there's many different ones. The DS1 by Rd. is a really great arm. It's not a low profile and you can get a low profile armed by Elgato. So again, I'm gonna say it depends. Yeah, I agree and. Yes, Road Now has launched some low profile arms as well, so maybe that would be of interest to Meredith. And I see here that Dave in the chat, he was just saying he uses as standard when I'm trying to find exactly what he wrote here. Yeah, I use a standard vocal mic stand that a singer would use on stage.

34:26 Yeah, I for many years of podcasting, that's what I used, is one of those more traditional floor stands that you would see a singer using. I think that it had a bit of an adjustable part to it so I could move the mic around to get it just in the right place. But yeah, that's commonly used as well. Appreciate that, Dave. Dr. Did you want to chime in on something I did because you? Said you don't like the way that it looks so number one, I don't mind the showing of it when I do all my virtual networking. They know right away, oh, are you a podcaster? I see your microphone, you know, so I like that identifiable thing. And also after a while, especially when it comes to podcasting and you're seeing those side by Yeah, that's fair. I.

35:23 Think that's true. I also feel like, you know, and this is a whole conversation we can have another time, but I'm also feeling like these podcast clips on social media are starting to kind of wear out for audiences. I think that people are getting tired of seeing podcast clips. I hate saying that because it's a lot of the content I put out, right? And I'm not necessarily stopping, but I do think I need to put out more variety than what I'm putting out now because I, I was going to ask you like what? I was going to ask you like what else would you put out? Honestly, what's working these? Days on social media right now are more just talking head videos, videos where it's just like I'm doing right now, literally just talking right to the camera.

36:05 I'm not making big edits. I'm not putting up a lot of production elements in it. It's just me talking to you on camera. That is what seems to be working really well these days. I'm not saying that produced content doesn't work, but I'm just saying that I think people have gotten numb to that now because again, it's a trend like everybody sees, oh, this is working. Heavy produced content is what's working right now. I got to do the same thing and then we get flooded with it and then people subconsciously, cuz you're right DRI don't think they're noticing necessarily the arm. They're not making that conscious connection, but they know subconsciously up. Here's another podcast clip.

36:49 Flip and go on to the next thing. That's my opinion. But I do know that I from my own personal research and what I'm seeing others saying about their research, the talking head stuff is what's working really well right now. And I think if your mic arm is showing in a talking head style, I think it might work. But again, it just may trigger subconsciously in people's minds. Oh, is this another podcast video? I'm going to flip it. Janae, did you want to comment on that? Absolutely love that. Topic. Because a lot of people what where we're heading right now with social media and clips is it's no longer the follower count. And this is something Gary Vee has been hammering down for the past six months.

37:33 It's all interest based, right? So he's saying forget about the clips. Now I put on the full stuff on social media because when you're looking at a clip, I didn't get the full gist of what you were talking about. So what I've noticed, at least for with my experience is I'm watching anywhere from three minutes, 5 minutes, 10 minute long reels, vertical videos, that person without talking directly to me or they've been having a conversation with somebody else. But I'm interested in that content that they're sharing about. And that's what's really working. So that's what you want to look at when creating these content because you're now not talking to somebody else anymore.

38:13 You're talking to me who's watching your video. So you've got to now modify the content to talking to the one person that's in your audience. And I think it also goes with podcasting is because with podcasting, we're talking, we're not talking to 10 people. We're talking to one person who's our target audience, and they're going to stay longer to stick around and with the conversation that you're having with them. Yeah. Thank you, Janae. And I want to just forsake of time when it keep going. I want to go to Matt, especially because A he's been waiting patiently. B Matt, what you just put in the chat about Gary Vee? I couldn't agree with you more and I would love for you to dig into that. My natural sceptical.

38:56 Mind always leans into someone who is entertaining a large audience, has crossed all of the barriers that you expect, a whole Mosey you might say, and is very keen and very outspoken and telling people what works before there's any kind of evidentiary material that shows that what they're saying works. Now, I don't investigate Gary all that much, but there are people who are very influential in the space that will make a recommendation and those people tend to guide the market a little bit. I mean, any reflection on Hormozi in the same way will tell you that he's saying he's giving you a lot of business advice, which is great.

39:37 He did the hustle and grind for five to six years, but now what's his nine to five telling people how to run their businesses and that's his business. So you kind of have to, there's like a 10 or 20 or 30%, however much weight you give it to any kind of advice that these people put forward. Now, what Junaid talked about, if you took Gary out of that as a reference, all of it would still apply because he's super tapped into the space. He sees what works. Same with Jonathan. He'd probably have a very similar opinion The the space is moving, but people like Gary, I think just a couple of grains of salt, not a whole salt shaker, but just a couple of grains. Yeah, I often. Think those things, when I see those, I'll call them influencers, even though I think Gary Vee is more than just an influencer.

40:21 But I whenever I see him telling all of us what to do, you know this isn't working anymore. You got to do this and you got to do that, and people just jump. It's like, OK, I know that's the old cliche saying, but it's like he says jump and everyone says how high. And I'm not saying he's wrong all the time, right? I think he has some valid points and I think he's a brilliant guy. Please don't get me wrong. And it's a little scary to think at how quickly people just jump at what he says and it instantly becomes a trend. I don't know how. I don't know how. That's how well that's serving our community. I really don't. The primary thing is.

41:01 He was pretty outspoken about AI robots being a major component of anything we do going forward. And you see big companies like Salesforce sacking 3 to 600 people in their team because they want to replace them with AI and then hiring them back. That's it's just, it's the soft. Sorry, Janae, I talked over you there. No problem. So what? I was going to say is Gary doesn't say do what I don't do what I'm telling you do what I do, right, Because that's what he's tested. That's what he's that's what's worked for him. He doesn't give you any advice that he has and himself tried. Well, yes, he will. He will jump on a brand new platform and go all in because he wants to test that.

41:42 And so this last video that I watched, he was talking about Facebook. He's giving advice to this group and they're like, you know, our page got demoted and pulled down. We had 100,200 thousand followers and we're not posting anymore. He's like, you know what, that's good. Now you have a chance to start over again. And when they're asking, should we post short? Should we post long form? Should we report? And he's all he's saying is yes, yes. Because the idea is the more you post of the content that your audience wants, the more you're going to be put forth in front of more audience. Like if you're not posting any content, there's no chance of people discovering you.

42:22 But when you are posting content, then there are more chances. So that's the the underlying lesson that I'm getting out of it. Yeah. I mean basically what you're saying. Is that another old cliche line is you can't win the lottery if you don't play, right? So yeah, of course you got to post content if you want to try to get more exposure. Absolutely. And yeah, I hear you that it's not necessarily Gary Vee is not necessarily going on and saying, OK, this is the trend, go do that. But he at the same time, I'm pretty sure I've seen him do posts like that. Like I've seen him jump on the idea where he was pushing for a while, the idea of these carousel style posts on Instagram that starts with a still image you slide and there's a video like that was a big thing he was pushing a lot of. And yes, I agree with you that he only pushes things that he tests and are successful.

43:13 But I also feel like, are we really comparing apples to apples here with Gary Vee with millions of followers? It's going to those people are going to potentially act a lot differently, respond a lot differently to his content than they then my 3000. Some followers on Instagram might like. I just think it's a bigger sampling, a bigger pool that he's working with and not necessarily the same pool as mine. Ralph, go ahead. Yeah, I just want to key in. On a word you use there that I think we need to dig into for a second. Followers, That's the issue. So many people follow what everybody else is doing. Be a trendsetter. Try something different yourself. You don't have to follow along with what everybody else is doing.

43:56 I get so frustrated when I see, well, let's try this because everybody's doing it. Well, let's do this because everybody's doing it. Guess what? At one point, somebody tried something new and then everybody followed them. So use your creativity. Here's a great place where you can actually use some creativity and try something new. And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But to follow everybody else, all you're doing is just following the leader. And I just, I hate that. I'm with you, Ralph. I'm totally with you there. Thank you for saying it. And I think there were some other people that want to chime in as well. Matt, did you want to chime in more on this? No, but I had an original. Point that I wanted to say and I kind of got sidestepped by Gary Vee. The thing about microphones on screen, including stands and stuff like that. Yeah, there was something very apartment that I saw someone post on LinkedIn that the what is present on the video dictates to the audience what they can expect to be listening to.

44:46 And some of you kind of alluded to that a little bit like Dr. saying like that must be a podcast if you're seeing a podcast microphone in that setup. But news broadcasts, social media clips, you know, the holding of a really bad small lanyard microphone or clipping it to a card or something and holding it up to your face like a news reader. All of these things subconsciously dictate what the content could be expected to be. And thinking about what you want to look like to your audience is fine, but you know, it's all about that subconscious behavioural aspect as well. I don't know if that short circuits how the conversation was flowing before, but that's what. No, I'm glad that you.

45:27 I'm glad you got your point and thank you for sharing that. And I'll go to Ralph and then I'll bite my tongue. I'll share in a minute. Go ahead, Ralph. Yeah, and I want to address. This because Janae said something. It is very true. I went from the shore SM 7B in the full shot and I didn't like that because I was doing video first. I went to the shotgun mic and I like the shotgun mic because you couldn't see it in the shot, but I didn't like the sound of it. So I went with this third mic because I wanted the sound to be excellent because I do both audio and video. And so this was a tough decision because I really like not having the mic in the shot. I thought it was cooler, but I had to go back to say what is best for the sound.

46:08 And that's when I had to make that decision because I've tried the lapel mics, I've got a bunch of gear sitting over here next to me. I've tried everything, but the sound is what it came down to. And going along with what Matt said, yeah, I think there's a subliminal piece to it as well. Professionalism. And if they see a professional microphone, they hear a professional microphone. I think that speaks volumes about your professionalism. Yeah. Thank you, Ralph. Appreciate that. Dr. Did you want to chime in before I share what I wanted to share Legacy hand, sorry. Oh, no problem. So. What I wanted to say is that we we still have a ton of stories and we didn't get to nearly half of them. So I want to 1st go to Ralph because Ralph, I know you have a road caster duo update as far as our winner goes.

46:55 And then I have one last thing I want to share with everybody before I let you go. Yeah. Thank you, Mark. The fellow who won, Justin, reached out to me yesterday. He's super excited about winning. He's from Oregon, so I'm going to traipse off to The UPS Store here in the next few days and get the roadcaster duo and the SD card on the way to him. So he had taken a day or two to get back to us, but he said he was super excited to win and he's also going to be scheduling that call with me. So I'm looking forward to doing both of those things. Awesome, awesome. Congratulations to him and congratulations to Austin who is in the audience right now. Austin our runner up of that giveaway and he has won a free one year subscription to True Fans. Speaking of podcast hosting platforms as we were at the top of the show.

47:42 So you will get to enjoy that and I have a call with Sam Sethi and I know so does Ralph as far as that service goes, learning more, even more about it, you never know, might switch over there at some point. We shall see. I'm really liking what True Fans has to offer. So more to come on that and a reminder that we are back tomorrow. No BC it is not related to only fans. I'm laughing also because we had made that joke when Sam joined us and maybe even previous before that we even made that joke that I often times think only fans when I hear true fans and I'm always scratching my head. Wait what podcast? What? But yeah no it is not.

48:22 No relation to follow it. True fans. No, not only fans. It is true fans. I always have to follow it that way. Aren't the only fan subscribers. The true friends, anyway. Well, all right, that's a whole. Other topic as well, and you may be right actually, but we are back tomorrow, everybody, 7:00 AM Eastern Time live on Clubhouse, YouTube, all the places. You can learn more about that at Podcasting Morning chat.com/join us. So until tomorrow where we'll share our wins from the week and we've got some community discussions to have, we'll be back then. So until then, make it a great day everybody, take care.