March 23, 2026

479. The Biggest Money Mistake Podcasters Make

479. The Biggest Money Mistake Podcasters Make

In our first Money Mondays episode, led by Ralph Estep Jr., we take a closer look at one of the most common financial habits creators fall into without even realizing it. We explore why it matters, why so many podcasters and content creators put it off, and how a few simple shifts can change the way you think about the business side of your work...

Episode Highlights:

[01:09] The simple shift that can help separate personal and creator finances using accounts and cards already in place

[04:39] The question from Ralph that reveals how easily personal and creator money can get mixed without realizing it

[07:26] Why waiting to separate finances “until real money comes in” often creates bigger problems later

[08:42] What a 1099 really means for creators and why surprise forms in January can lead to costly mistakes

[15:01] The hidden audit risk in Amazon purchases and a smarter way to handle buying gear

[18:57] How the IRS evaluates consistency, activity, and even calendar records to determine business vs. hobby status

[26:45] The three major issues commingling creates: lost deductions, unclear financial data, and increased legal exposure

[31:03] The “tax vault” concept and a practical way to think about paying yourself as a creator

[34:33] What to understand about LLCs, including real benefits, real costs, and why forming one isn’t a complete solution

[49:25] How to plan for taxes when creator income is inconsistent and constantly changing

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Today is Monday, March 23rd,
2026, and today it's our first

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Money Mondays with Ralph Estep,
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at a money issue many creators
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Good morning again Podcasting

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today.
I was just putting in the chat.

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I was a little moderator button
heavy this morning.

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I just started making everyone
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know what that means if you are
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live video streaming audience as
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Today we are getting into a new
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obsession Worthy podcast is
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It just means we're trying some
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take the lead on Money Mondays
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So 1st, a couple of quick
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I think as a podcaster content
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Christina Vitovic.
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Come join us and you will find a

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podcasters that say they want to
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because they're very fearful of
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EVAL.
All right, so today we are going

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to be talking with Ralph Estep,
A licensed accountant, a content

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creator and as many of you know,
he runs Content

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creatorsaccountant.com.
And I know that we are going to

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discuss these money mistakes and
probably your biggest one that

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you see Ralph working with lots
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So with that, I will hand the
baton to you.

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Go for it.
Good morning, Mark, and thank

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you so much for having me here
today on this beautiful Monday

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morning.
So we're going to start with a

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simple question for the room.
And this is what I do for a

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living.
So I want to get the feel from

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everybody else, and how many of
you currently have your creator

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income landing in the same
account that you use for

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groceries and everyday spending?
This is in a judgement zone.

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I'm telling you right now.
This is extremely common, but I

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just wanted to hear from
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Where are you currently doing
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I'll start, but I do want
everybody to chime in here.

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And I guess what you're talking
about here, Ralph, is like, for

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example, if we have a credit
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card for both groceries and
buying the new sure microphone?

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Absolutely.
That's exactly what I'm talking

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about.
It's a fancy word in accounting

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lingo called commingling.
But basically what that means in

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accounting lingo is that
everything is in the same

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bucket.
But that's what I'm questioning

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right now.
How many people are doing that?

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Raise your hands and come up on
stage and let's hear from you.

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So for me, I will say that the
vast majority of my expenses and

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I'm hesitating because Ralph is
my accountant.

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So I'm ready for him to at least
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Mark, what are you doing?
But I think the vast majority of

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my charges are separate.
I do have a dedicated card that

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I use for my business expenses.
Now where why I'm hesitating is

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because I fully admit there are
times that I'll go to that

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business card for a personal
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So I don't, I can't say I'm
perfectly 100% clean separation

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of those two cards.
But yeah, I'd say for the most

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part that's me.
Now, Sid, I saw you with the

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thumbs down and that surprises
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Is that true?
And again, like Ralph said, no,

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not, no judgement here 'cause I
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But I'm curious about you, Sid
'cause you gave us the thumbs

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down.
Good morning.

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Good morning, everybody.
So my thumbs down was, I think

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the question was how many of you
have everything commingled?

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And my thumbs down was, no, I
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Like, Nah, that's bad.
OK, that's.

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OK.
Yeah, no mine, yeah, no, mine

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are all separate.
All all of my businesses versus

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my personal account are all
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Gotcha.
OK, cool.

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Yeah, that's what I just kind of
assumed with you.

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Sid DRI saw you wanted to chime
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Go for it.
Good morning.

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Good morning.
So yeah, true confession time.

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I was commingling pretty heavily
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know, this is Ralph's influence
on me being on this show and

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hearing Ralph speak.
I made a promise to myself that

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I would stop the commingling and
so far, so far so good.

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Nice.
OK, so you have now 2 separate

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cards, one for personal, one for
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Cool.
Anybody else want to chime in?

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OK, Ralph.
Now I want to talk about why

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this is so important because,
you know, it's one thing to say,

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hey, you should do this, but I
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why this is so important.
I want to talk today about when

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you should start separating
because I think maybe, Mark, we

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go there first.
Actually, a lot of people say to

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me, Ralph, because I work with a
lot of content creators and

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they'll say Ralh, yeah, once I
get that brand deal or once I

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start monetizing, once I start
doing this, once I start doing

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that, and my position is once
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And I understand that there is a
difference between those of us

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who are business podcasts and I
mean business from the

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standpoint of operating it as a
business and others who are

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operating it as a hobby.
But even if you're going to

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operate it as a hobby, I was
asked on the show a couple weeks

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ago, they said, when should you
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I said before you start your
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And they said, wait a second, we
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to do.
I think you start before that

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point.
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that point is because you never
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happen.
You don't know when you're going

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to get that brand deal, when
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sponsorship, when all of a
sudden you have the ability to

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monetize.
And then what happens, Mark, for

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all the time, somebody will get
that dreaded 1099.

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Now, I'm a jargon here a little
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A 1099 is a form that someone
sends you when they pay you

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money.
Sorry, I had to do it.

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Didn't mean to interrupt your
flow there, but I had to do it.

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But it's a valid point because
I'll and I call me out today if

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I use any jargon terms.
I try not to, but a 1099 is

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basically someone way of saying
I paid you during the prior

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year.
So they have to report that to

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the state.
They report that to the IRS.

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And what absolutely happens all
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get this 1099 in January or
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With some of my other clients,
they don't quite send them out

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on time, but that's OK.
They send them out and then all

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of a sudden the person starts to
panic and they say, Ralph, what

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do I do with this?
I wasn't expecting this guy and

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I, we were just friends and I
did some work for him.

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He did some work for me.
The problem is now you've got a

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situation because now the IRS is
looking for, and I'm going to

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throw Mark under the bus here.
If Mark got one of these 1090

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nines, the IRS is looking OK.
Mark, are you going to put this

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on your tax return?
Well, if you wait until March or

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April to go back and say what
happened last year, you're going

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to struggle.
And I see that.

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That's why I think you need to
start separating these things

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out at the front end basically
as you're starting.

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And the problem is so many
people learn this the hard way.

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They learn it the hard way
because somebody like me says to

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them, hey, guess what, Mark, you
owe $10,000 in tax this year and

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you go Ralph that, wait a
second, I don't even have

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$10,000 in the business anymore.
It was spent here, was spent

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there.
I was like, OK, that's fine, but

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where was it spent?
And that's why it's so important

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to start that out at the
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The other side of this, and I'll
get into this a little bit

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deeper later, the IRS loves
commingling.

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The reason they love commingling
is that is their biggest audit.

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They, when they see that, they
go after you because here's the

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problem.
If they see it one time, they

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just assume it's pervasive.
So I'm going to ask the room a

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question now.
Did anyone today say, well, I've

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never heard of this, I don't
have even thought about

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separating it.
Does anybody want to talk about,

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hey, this is news to me Or has
this already sort of been out

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there?
Everybody kind of knew what was

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going.
Well, I know for me, I've always

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attempted it that way.
But yeah, Dr. go ahead.

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I knew what was going on.
It's just hard.

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Once you start commingling, it's
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done it, but things came up and,
you know, I've hopefully,

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hopefully I've corrected it as
of January 1st.

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I know that sometimes some
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oh, well, maybe I wouldn't
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right?
Like I need an actual corporate

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card.
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case, right, Ralph?
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And that's what I want to answer
Nikki's question in the chat

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also, because I think those two
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I am.
I'm not saying that you need to

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go get a business card or a
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If you can.
I think that's a great thing to

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do.
I think it sets you up for

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success.
But if you don't have those

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things, you can go get one of
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wallet and say this is the
credit card I'm going to use for

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business.
This is the credit card I'm

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going to use for personal.
I'll tell you a funny story.

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I had a client a few years back
and I may have shared this on

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the show.
He was a plumber and every year

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he would come in and I might
say, dude, look, we need to

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separate your finance.
He goes, oh, but Ralph, I'm out

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shopping or out doing this and I
just grab whatever card I can

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grab.
Mark, I said hand me your cards

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and I took 2 little sticky notes
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AP for personal.
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cards.
And to this day when he comes in

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and sees me, he's got him, he's
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front cellophane, but that's an
old term I haven't used forever.

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But it's got he's got it taped
to his car because he doesn't

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want to mix that up.
So Nikki, what you were talking

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about Mark, first of all, to
answer your question, no, it

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doesn't have to be a quote
corporate account.

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It doesn't have to be a Co
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That's great if you can do that.
I think that's a good thing to

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do.
But Nikki, the issue is this.

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The IRS comes in and they want
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Give you a great example, Let's
say that you go to Best Buy and

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you want to buy a new microphone
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That's fantastic.
That's clearly a business

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purchased, but at the same time,
you go to Best Buy and maybe you

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buy a game console or you buy
something like that.

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Then all of a sudden the IRS
says, well, I see you've got all

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these Best Buy charges coded as
business expenses, but how do we

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really know that they are
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And it's kind of like one of
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Once they sense blood in the
water, I know it's a horrible

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analogy, but they go after it.
I have had so many clients that

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made one mistake or just didn't
do a good job of separating

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things.
And once they did that, the IRS

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said, so as an accountant, as
I've been doing this for 30

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years, professionally licensed
and all those sort of things,

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that is like the biggest thing
when I was teasing today's show,

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the biggest money mistake that I
see content creators doing and

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small business people creating
is this not keeping tough

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separate.
Now, the other reason it's

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important to keep it separate is
you want to know how you're

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doing.
One of the things that I hear

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content creators all the time,
I'll say to them, how are you

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doing with your business side of
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Rafael, I'm not really sure.
If you don't know, how do you

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measure success?
You know, we talk on the show

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all the time about your why for
podcasting, how you're going to

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measure success.
Well, if you're doing it for a

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business purpose, if your goal
is, I want to be a good side

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hustle, I want to be this a
replacement for my income.

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If you're not measuring that,
you're never going to know how

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well you're actually doing
because a lot of people get

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stuck on, well, there's money in
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I have revenue dollars coming
in, but I ask people all the

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time, OK, what was your take
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What was your net profit last
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And I hear crickets.
So I, I don't want to talk the

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whole time.
I want to open this up to other

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people's questions and ideas.
But you know, I this is, I see

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this all the time and so many
content creators behind the

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scenes, it's a tornado and
tornadoes just lead to

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destruction.
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So I don't know if you have a
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ask you.
I mean, you've been, I know you

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work with a lot of content
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So what have you actually seen?
I know you probably have dealt

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with audits as well, right?
So what have you actually seen

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in audits when people don't keep
their business and their

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personal finances separate?
I'll give you an example of

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that.
I was, I'll give you a quick

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story.
I was working with a content

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creator, had a successful
podcast, and he had sponsors

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coming in.
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merchandise.
He had a Patreon site and

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everything looked great.
But like I said, behind the

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scenes, his money was a tornado.
And I say it was a tornado

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because everything was mixed
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His personal, his business, his
mortgage came out, his

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groceries.
Amazon.

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Don't let me get started on
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Amazon is a brutal one because
so many people buy so much stuff

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on Amazon.
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And I'm going to stop you right
there too, Ralph, with the with

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the Amazon thing that drives me
crazy is that they don't provide

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really any reporting.
You have to actually just go

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into your order history and go
through each and every day that

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you've made a purchase and then
on your own, decipher whether

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that was for your business or
personal.

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And it gets really tedious
really quickly, especially if

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you're waiting until tax season
to do that and.

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That's one of the reasons I
don't know if you know this or

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not, Mark.
You can actually set up a

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separate Amazon business
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And that's one of the things I
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If you buy a lot of stuff on
Amazon.

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Look, Amazon stops at my house
three times a day.

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Like the guy goes in the
withdrawal if there's not, if

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he's not stopping here on the
farm.

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But you can actually set up a
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And I really recommend that.
Set up a separate login and

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track all of those business
expenses through that so that

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you could say with certainty,
yeah, if I spent money on Amazon

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for the business, it went
through this account.

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You can tie a separate credit
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But that's a brilliant
observation, Mark.

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And it's it's one of the ones I
see auditors are having a field

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day because they know all,
everybody's buying stuff through

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Amazon and Target and
walmart.com.

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And I'm, I'm not trying to throw
Amazon or the bus, but it

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happens everyday, Mark.
So, so yeah, that's interesting.

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So is there any other advantage
besides keeping the two accounts

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separately?
What are there any advantages

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for creators to open up a
separate Amazon business account

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other than keeping things
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too there and I get pushed these

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all the time.
They're spending rewards is how

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much you spend rewards, all
those type of things.

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There's definitely a lot of
things and that's where, and I

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know Jonathan Howard put in the
chat, he says love my rewards on

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that thing.
Yeah, absolutely.

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And that's the other benefit to
having a separate credit card is

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you can use that for rewards.
If you're doing travel, if

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you're going to go to Empower
podcasting #3 hey, charge that

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on your credit card.
Put your hotel on there, put all

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your reservations and all your
meals and all that stuff on

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there.
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that people don't do that from
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Then when you go to put it
together, Mark, you nailed it.

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What did I buy on Amazon?
Oh, these kids expenses, the

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groceries and the problem is
they all get buried in the same

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account.
And then you have to ask

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yourself, OK, what was this for?
What was this for?

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And the the problem is then you
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OK, and then you think, and, and
here's another sidetrack.

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A lot of people think, well, if
I've got the credit card receipt

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or credit card statement, that's
enough.

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Well, guess what?
Spoiler alert, that's not

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enough.
The IRS wants receipts.

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They want the receipts.
They want to see a receipt for

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what you bought.
They want to see the time, they

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want to see what it was for.
So here's a little key take

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away.
Here's something you can take to

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the bank today.
When you spend money for your

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show, you take your phone.
Everybody carries phones now.

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Take a picture of that receipt
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there.
This was Mark and I had lunch,

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talking about the podcasting,
morning chat, something like

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that.
That way, a year from now when

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somebody like me says, hey,
Mark, last March I saw you went

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to such and such restaurant.
What was that for?

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You can say, oh, I got that.
I've got a folder over here by

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year and by month and I can go,
Oh yeah, that was lunch with

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Ralph.
We talked about such and such

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because here's the problem, like
this creator was talking about,

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everything was mixed together.
So this particular audit, she

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said, Ralph, I'm just going to
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She goes because I don't believe
any of this.

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Now, the truth is by the end of
the audit, he had lost $8000 in

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deductions.
Now, it wasn't because he

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cheated on anything.
He didn't lie about anything.

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It was just that everything was
mixed together in this big old

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salad bowl.
And the IRS says, look, I don't

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see any records here.
I don't see any cohesiveness to

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your records.
And so it costs that particular

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creator $8000 in deductions.
Do some quick math.

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Let's just assume they're in the
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That's $2500 out of your pocket
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Wow.
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And I'm looking here in the
chat, by the way, Tim, right on.

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I love that you say I'm using my
business checking account to

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travel to Empowered Podcasting 3
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So that's right.
Exactly what Ralph was just

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referring to.
And also I think Tide has

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something as well.
Go ahead, Tide.

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Had a question.
I knew someone who got audited a

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few years ago and they didn't,
the IRS didn't just check their

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bank accounts and all of that.
They actually actually wanted to

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see the person's agenda, their
calendar.

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So if anybody keeps like a
notebook where they're writing

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down dates of important events
and appointments and things like

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that, they wanted to see that.
And I was like, really?

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They didn't just want to see the
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They wanted to see like your
Google Calendar.

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And they were like, yeah, they
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So I don't know, Ralph, if you
had any experience with that or

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heard of that happening?
I do and I'm going to add two

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things to that, Nikki.
Number one is they will always

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ask for business and personal
records.

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They're going to ask you for
your business account, they're

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going to ask you for your
personal account because they

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want to see is it working in
both directions.

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Because sometimes a creator will
say, you know what, I have this

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separate account set U, but I
don't really want to report this

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income.
So I'm going to deposit this

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check over to my personal
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So the IRS looks at that.
But what Nikki is really getting

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at is a different question.
It's the same thing, but it's a

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different question.
And that is, is there a for

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profit motive for this business,
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That's why they're asking you
for that.

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They want to see how much time
and effort you're putting into

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this because a lot of content
creators, and I'm sure it's

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nobody here, do this so they can
write off a bunch of expenses.

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But there is absolutely 0
intention of this ever being a

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profitable venture.
So the IRS calls that a hobby

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and hobbies are great, but you
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your tax return.
So Nikki, the reason they're

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00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,480
asking that is they want to know
how much skin you have in the

424
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,400
game.
They want to know, are you, are

425
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,760
you out there doing this?
How much time are you spending

426
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,680
doing this?
So Nikki, great point because

427
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,840
that is something I think all of
us should keep.

428
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,520
I do this every day in my own
life for two reasons.

429
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,960
Number one reason is for audit.
Second reason, so I can build

430
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,040
clients, but I keep track of
every 15 minute interval of my

431
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,240
day.
And of course I'm anal

432
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,080
retentive.
I get it.

433
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:52,760
But if the IRS said to me on
Tuesday, March the 28th of 2025,

434
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,040
who did you meet?
Mith, what did you talk about?

435
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,280
What was it?
How was that business related?

436
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,680
I can go back to my calendar
just like Nikki said and say,

437
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,640
yes, I met with this person.
I met with this person, I

438
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,040
traveled here, I traveled there
again.

439
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,880
Here's what I like to do when I
work with an auditor.

440
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,320
I want to overwhelm them with
information because the truth

441
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,200
is, look, and I'm not throwing
auditors under the bus.

442
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,360
They have a job to do.
And if you can help them do

443
00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:16,520
their job easier and audit goes
great.

444
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,120
I've had this happen so many
times.

445
00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:21,680
Or in order to come in to me and
I'll say Ralph, I am so happy to

446
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,880
be working with you because you
have all your IS dotted, your

447
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,120
T's crossed, you got everything
ready for me.

448
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,320
I'm ready to go.
I never want to be in that

449
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,800
situation where an auditor says
to me, Ralph, I don't see

450
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,000
anything here.
I don't see any records because

451
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,080
I guarantee that auditor is
going to go find something and

452
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,160
what they're going to find is
going to hurt you.

453
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,280
So if you have more information
than you need, that's better

454
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,480
than having less information
than you need.

455
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,440
So Nikki, I hope that answers
your question.

456
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,680
But that's the reason they're
asking that question is they

457
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,280
want to see, is there a profit
motive for this?

458
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,920
Now, profit motive is in the eye
of the beholder.

459
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,800
How much time are you putting
into it?

460
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:58,600
Are you advertising?
Are you promoting your business?

461
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,120
Are you on LinkedIn?
All those type of things.

462
00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:02,760
Keep track of all that stuff.
It's what we kind of call, you

463
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,520
know, in podcasting, we talk
about telling a story.

464
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,920
Well, your accounting records
should be a narrative.

465
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,360
They should tell a story of
where you were, what you did,

466
00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:13,680
what you did it for.
And when you do that, you're

467
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,560
dealing with a person just like
you with the IRS.

468
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,280
These are not bad people.
They're just trying to do a job.

469
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,280
They've got a job to go out
there and and the big word says

470
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,920
a fair administration of tax
law.

471
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,160
Now we could argue fair
administration, but that's their

472
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,040
goal.
And if you're doing the right

473
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,600
things, if you're not being
ridiculous, then you're not

474
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,000
going to have a problem about.
People get so scared of audits,

475
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,560
but there's really nothing to be
scared of.

476
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,760
If you have an intention from
the front end to keep your books

477
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,960
in order.
That's the key.

478
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,040
And start it before you start
your podcast.

479
00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:45,480
And like Mark said, you can set
up a separate account.

480
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,200
You can use a credit card that
you already have, but just keep

481
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,440
it separate and be regimen into
doing that.

482
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,120
Hey, I wanted to go to Jonathan
real quick.

483
00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:55,320
Jonathan is sharing a little bit
in the chat and responding, I

484
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,880
think, to some of the things
you're talking about.

485
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,520
And Jonathan, I just, I'd like
to hear, I'd like the rest of

486
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,520
the audience to hear what you're
saying.

487
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,600
So would you chime in please?
I was just saying I hope to the

488
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,080
IRS does not need to see my
personal calendar because that's

489
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,560
mostly.
Post it notes on my desk or

490
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,320
sometimes my mom calling me and
saying hey, don't forget to go

491
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,680
to your cardiologist
appointment, you know, tomorrow.

492
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,800
And yes, I know I'm 45 and I
should know these things.

493
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,280
But.
You know.

494
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,640
Hey, that's OK.
Accountability can come in at

495
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,360
all ages.
Having an accountability partner

496
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,840
can be very helpful.
So that's the way I'll choose to

497
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,760
look at that for you, Jonathan.
But yeah, Ralph, any thoughts?

498
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,160
Any response?
No, I agree.

499
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,840
And unless you ask a bigger
question, unless you ask the

500
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,640
room, this one, why do creators
mix their money?

501
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,080
Let's go there.
Let's talk about those folks who

502
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,120
have struggled with this.
Why are you mixing your money?

503
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:44,680
And, and again, this is not
judgement.

504
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,120
I I have a heart to help people.
My goal here is to help you.

505
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,880
So let's talk for a few minutes
about why you're mixing your

506
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,080
money.
Is it convenience?

507
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,960
What is it lack of knowledge?
Let's hear from the room and see

508
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,360
whatever the people are doing,
why they would mix their money

509
00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,480
in the first place.
I mean, for me, I think it would

510
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,240
be more about convenience.
I think that, yeah, just like I

511
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,720
was saying earlier, you know,
not even maybe it's also not

512
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,480
being educated, right?
Not realizing that, yeah, I can

513
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,680
take out a personal card, but I
can dedicate that just to my

514
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,200
business expenses, right?
So I think it could be a

515
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,440
combination of both.
I also, look, I think that maybe

516
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,400
sometimes people are mixing it
because they're kind of hoping

517
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,840
they can get away with
something, right?

518
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,720
Like, you know, maybe the this
personal thing, maybe I can

519
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,800
write it off, you know, and just
kind of slide it in there.

520
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,640
But that obviously can be very
dangerous.

521
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,040
Nikki wanted to chime in on this
one as well.

522
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,960
Go ahead, Nikki.
For me, I think those are all

523
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,360
really great points too, Mark.
And I was just going to say that

524
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,120
for me, when I first started my
different businesses, I didn't

525
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:48,160
have any money.
I was just a teacher, you know,

526
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,280
I was spending money from my
personal account to start my

527
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,520
business because I didn't have
any business funds.

528
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,520
So a lot of the expenses got put
into the personal account

529
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,400
because I didn't have any
business money to to utilize to

530
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,160
buy the things that I needed.
Yeah, fair enough.

531
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,760
Go ahead, Ralph, And then let's
hand it off to BC.

532
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,280
Who wants to chime in.
Ralph, did you want?

533
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,600
You're muted.
I'm sorry, Nikki, I was going to

534
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,760
say you do like everybody else
does, absolutely accurate.

535
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,560
So the how you solve that, no
Nikki is now what you do is you

536
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,960
go create that business setup
and you reimburse yourself for

537
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,800
all those personal monies that
you put into the business.

538
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,880
But you're absolutely right,
Nikki, and I think that's one of

539
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,320
the big things that operates
this is that people don't see

540
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560
this as a real business yet.
They don't have any money in the

541
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,640
account.
And it's a little bit of, you

542
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,040
know, gymnastics with money when
you first start out, Nikki.

543
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,880
But I think you've nailed, I
think that's a really good

544
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,760
reason for why you feel that
way.

545
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,440
But go ahead BC I know you want
to make a comment.

546
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,000
Yeah.
And I wonder this, this might be

547
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,320
a combination of just not being
educated, but I think there's

548
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:53,000
also for people who've had a
long term desire to see their

549
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:58,640
content show potential to be
something that can allow them to

550
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,040
maneuver themselves or, or
depart from maybe a typical

551
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,080
function that they've wanted to
depart from for a long time.

552
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,720
And then to see, wow, this is
actually beginning to work.

553
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,520
Let me not lose as much of this
as I can.

554
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,640
Let me try to keep as much of
this as that as as possible and

555
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,400
then hopefully reinvest it and
make this bigger so I can

556
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,160
finally depart from this 9 to 5
whatever function I've wanted to

557
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,920
leave for years and finally live
this kind of dream career.

558
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,960
But again, also being a mix of
lack of education, this is not

559
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,440
how it's supposed to work.
But they don't know that there's

560
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,680
a, there's a level of, of, of
desperateness and trying to

561
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,080
really hope this thing works.
And that kind of prompts this

562
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,760
not best decision making when it
comes to their money.

563
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,640
Yeah.
And I want to go to Nick and Tim

564
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,920
and made some comments in the
chat, Mark, but I want to go to

565
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,440
one more place and then we'll go
right to that question because

566
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,360
it's I'm going to nail it.
So we've talked a little bit

567
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:57,080
about not mixing your money.
I want to really lay down,

568
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,600
there's really 3 problems that
this causes.

569
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,720
Number one thing, we've kind of
beat this to death.

570
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,440
Deductions get challenged.
The second thing, and I want to

571
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,200
spend a minute here, is you lose
financial clarity.

572
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,520
And I think we don't want to
just overthink this because you

573
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,800
really need to understand.
I'll give you an example.

574
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,200
I had a person in last week,
this was not a content creator.

575
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,640
This was somebody in a regular
business.

576
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,360
I say regular business that
sounded harsh, but a different

577
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,880
business in content creating.
And I was looking at their tax

578
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,800
return.
And they said to me, Ralph, how

579
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,360
am I really doing with my
business?

580
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,440
And I had to have one of those
difficult discussions.

581
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,600
And I said to this person, I
said, what's let me ask you this

582
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,280
question.
How many hours a week do you

583
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,600
spend in your business?
And she says, Ralph, she says,

584
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,000
I'm really working hard at this
thing.

585
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,200
I really want this to grow.
She says, honestly, I'm spending

586
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,200
about 60 hours a week in my
business.

587
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,360
I said, I commend you.
That's great.

588
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:43,840
You're, you know, you're doing
the hard work.

589
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,440
I said, but when I look at your
numbers, you made a $20,000

590
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,520
profit last year.
And I'm not going to do math for

591
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,560
here on the show, but it worked
out to be about $4.00 an hour.

592
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,360
And I had to have a difficult
conversation with her.

593
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:58,600
I had to say to her, is your
hour worth more than $4.00?

594
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,480
And that was hard because, you
know, I felt so bad at the time.

595
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,040
I was like, but you know what,
It's interesting.

596
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,040
Her response to me was I never
thought about it that way.

597
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,480
I said, well, see, that's the
thing.

598
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,720
If you don't have that financial
separation, if you don't have

599
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,120
that clarity, you don't know
what your profit is.

600
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,200
You don't know what your
expenses are, you don't know

601
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,880
what your taxes are.
That could be coming because we

602
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,440
could have had a completely
different discussion.

603
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,760
We could have been at the end of
the year and made $100,000

604
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,440
profit.
And I say, Chris, yeah, great,

605
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,840
fantastic.
But now you owe a ton of money.

606
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,720
Here's the third thing.
And this is what leads into what

607
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,720
Nick was talking about.
A lot of people say to me,

608
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,160
Ralph, well, I set U an LLC, I'm
good to go.

609
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,280
I I saw the gurus online and
Reddit told me go set U an LLC.

610
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,440
That's great.
But an LLC is not an accounting

611
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,480
or tax strategy.
An LLC and I'm not an attorney,

612
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,400
it's a legal strategy.
But here's the problem.

613
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,880
A lawyers will tell you this.
If a lawyer can prove, if the

614
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,960
IRS can prove that you mixed
your finances, they will argue

615
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,240
that LLC is nothing more than a
shell.

616
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,760
And if it's just a shell,
they're going to do what's

617
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,280
called Pierce the corporate
veil.

618
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,920
Once they Pierce the corporate
veil, it's like you didn't have

619
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,080
your LLC at all, which means
that your personal expenses are

620
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,520
exposed.
And what Nick put in the in the

621
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,880
chat is I think sole proprietor
or single member makes it easy

622
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,920
to blend business and personal.
He's absolutely right because

623
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,080
there is no distinct separation,
which leads me to Tim's question

624
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,280
and Tim said, let me find it
here.

625
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,360
Tim says what's a good way to
pay yourself from your business

626
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,080
account?
Brilliant observation, Tim.

627
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,160
This is one of the things when I
work with content creators, you

628
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,560
need to set up a routine for
yourself.

629
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,520
A lot of us get regular W2 jobs.
We get a pace, we get a

630
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,280
paycheck.
You're used to that.

631
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,760
You get it weekly, you get it
biweekly, you get it monthly.

632
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,440
If you're operating a content
creation business, you need to

633
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,400
start thinking about the same
thing.

634
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,160
What is the interval that you
pay yourself?

635
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,080
One of the things that I
recommend people to do is have a

636
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,440
money meeting every week to talk
about your finances.

637
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,640
You can then look at, OK, how
much came in, how much went out,

638
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,920
how much should I put aside for
taxes?

639
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,400
And yeah, how much should I put
aside so I can pay my bills

640
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,800
because I got to pay rent, I got
to pay mortgage.

641
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,160
The car payment would sure be
nice.

642
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,240
And my wife would really like it
if I helped her out with some of

643
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,280
the household bills, paid some
grocery bills.

644
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,360
O Tim, one of the things I think
you're saying there, and I love

645
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,960
it, is you're saying, how can I
be intentional in this?

646
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,200
And what I suggest you do is go
to multiple accounts.

647
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,720
Now we're taking it a whole
other step.

648
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,520
And that is we have a tax
account.

649
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,000
It's what I call a tax vault.
And every week, whatever came in

650
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,880
that gross number, you put X
percentage in the tax vault.

651
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,160
You do the same thing for your
own spending money, because then

652
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,520
you start to pay yourself.
You nobody told you when you got

653
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,160
into content creation that you
were going to be a marketing

654
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,960
whiz, a technical engineer, an
accountant, and a payroll clerk.

655
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,200
But guess what?
You are, and I can help you with

656
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,560
things like that.
There's a lot of people that can

657
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,960
help you with things like that.
But Tim, you just absolutely

658
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,440
nailed it.
And that is to start thinking

659
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,520
intentionally about paying
yourself.

660
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Now, I want to open up the
questions because I've done a

661
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,960
lot of talking there.
But you know, let's talk about

662
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,280
this.
For those of you who do run it

663
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,400
like a business, what systems
are you using and what's working

664
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,720
for you?
Before we get to that, Ralph, do

665
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,480
you want to answer Tide AKA
Nikki?

666
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,520
She in the chat asked about
quarterly taxes and where do we

667
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,160
go to pay those.
That is a complicated question

668
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,840
because it depends on your
situation.

669
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,880
And Nikki, if you're asking me,
if you're just a regular federal

670
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,240
tax filer, then you would go to
irs.gov and you can actually

671
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,600
make payments there.
But don't lose sight of the fact

672
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,520
that all of us live in states as
well, and some states have taxes

673
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,360
as well.
So you may need to pay state

674
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,440
taxes.
Some of us live in places where

675
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,040
there's city taxes.
Nashville's a great example of

676
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,840
that, where Dr. is Nashville has
city taxes.

677
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,480
O this is the time to invest.
Go meet with an accountant.

678
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,520
Go meet with somebody who
understands the industry and

679
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,360
find out the things that you
don't know.

680
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,080
But that is a very good point,
Nikki, because here's what

681
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,320
happened.
A lot of people don't know this.

682
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,640
The IRS wants to get paid as you
go, just like the state wants to

683
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,440
get paid as you go.
When you work for somebody else,

684
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,240
your employer, every time you
get paid, send some of that

685
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,640
money to the taxing authorities.
Well, the IRS wants it the same

686
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,880
way.
They don't want you to pay at

687
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,440
the end of the year.
A lot of people think you can.

688
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,640
Here's what happens if you
don't.

689
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,080
They will, they will send you a
penalty and those things are

690
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,440
ugly.
They will penalize you from what

691
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,720
you should have paid throughout
the year.

692
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,240
But to Nikki, to really answer
your question, you need to start

693
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,800
at a very minimum.
Like I said, I believe in a tax

694
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,320
vault approach, which is this
simple.

695
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,320
Once a week, what came in the
door after expenses, take that

696
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,960
and multiply by whatever your
tax percentage is and put that

697
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,080
money aside.
Once you do that, then you need

698
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,400
to think about, OK, do I need to
make quarterly payments?

699
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,680
Yes, the IRS wants you to pay
quarterly, but if you don't have

700
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,880
a big profit, if you're not
going to have a big tax bill,

701
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,720
you're not going to get a
penalty at the end.

702
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,720
Now I'm going to say this, it
depends on your situation.

703
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,640
I cannot give you personalized
advice without knowing your

704
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,440
particular situation, Nikki.
I probably should have said that

705
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,520
at the beginning so I don't get
myself in trouble with the

706
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,480
people that I have to deal with
compliance wise.

707
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,280
But if you at least set it
aside, then you don't have that

708
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,320
surprise moment.
So I love the fact that you

709
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,600
asked that question, Nikki,
because it tells me that you're

710
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,000
already thinking through this
and that there's another step to

711
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,120
this.
And yes, there is another step

712
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,840
to this, but you don't want to
just go out there and try to do

713
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,640
this on your own because there
you can get yourself all kinds

714
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,280
of tied up backwards.
Because here's the other side of

715
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,120
that, Nikki.
Let's say that things are going

716
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,600
really well now.
You just landed a big content

717
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,920
deal.
You've got a brand deal.

718
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,920
Everything is going great.
And you say, well, you know

719
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,720
what, I better set aside some
money, let me send it to the

720
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,560
IRS.
What happens at the end of the

721
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,440
year when things aren't going as
great and now you've got a

722
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,400
editor to pay or you've got some
things you need to do?

723
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,120
Well, now that money's sitting
at the IRS and you can't get

724
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,840
that back until you file your
tax return in the next tax

725
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,680
season.
So I'm one of these guys.

726
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,280
I'm sort of a rebel in my field.
I'm not a huge fan of quarterly

727
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,840
estimates.
Unless you really know what your

728
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,520
income is year after year, I
would much rather you park the

729
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,600
money over in the tax vault and
just be ready for that.

730
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,440
That way if something happens,
you, and because I've had it

731
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,400
happen so many times where an
opportunity came up or there was

732
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,880
a downturn in the economy and
people had to live off their tax

733
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,680
vault.
Listen, if it comes down to

734
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,960
survival, you can use that
money, but if you've already

735
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,800
sent it to the IRS, you're going
to be wondering, hey, how's

736
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,480
these are the people that are in
to see me, Mark on the 15th of

737
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,920
January saying I need to file, I
need to file, I need to file me.

738
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,080
I can't even do it yet because
the software is not available.

739
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,239
So Nikki, there's a blend here
of hope.

740
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,600
I've addressed your question,
but there's a nuance to this.

741
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,080
Thank you, Ralph, and thanks for
the question, Nikki.

742
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,199
I think Dr. has something.
And then after that we'll answer

743
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,000
Ralph's question around what
systems that we're using to keep

744
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,320
all of this together.
Go ahead, Dr. Well, I kind of

745
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,920
feel vindicated now, validated.
The bank that I'm using for my

746
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,199
business is Sofi and they have
it set up to where you have

747
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:51,239
these bolts and you could call
them anything, tax, new car,

748
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,080
mortgage, you know, you can call
them anything.

749
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,080
So I have one that is set up for
tax and every month I have like

750
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:03,080
$250 taken out and put into the
vault and it's strictly just for

751
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,160
taxes at the end of the year.
Now my husband and I, we, I

752
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,400
don't even know how to say this.
We do our taxes, you know, for

753
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,960
the household and my business
like all in one.

754
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,600
I have a feeling I'm going to
get reamed for that.

755
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Now, Dr. Let me jump in there.
So you're OK.

756
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,600
What you're really saying is you
don't have a separate legal

757
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,200
entity for your content
business, and that's OK.

758
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,040
What you're talking about is I'm
getting a jargon wheel again,

759
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:40,120
Mark, if you want to hit it.
So what Dr. is talking about is

760
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,760
she's reporting this on a
Schedule C on her personal tax

761
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,960
return.
And that's fine, Dr. I'm not a

762
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,400
big fan of that long term
because it's not the best tax

763
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,520
structure.
We can get into that discussion

764
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,600
robably at another time because
that would be an hour discussion

765
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,320
about self-employment tax.
But no, you're not wrong, Dr.

766
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,400
It's not the best strategy, But
Dr. is absolutely right in that

767
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,080
it's all kind of going on the
same place.

768
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,840
It's all kind of feeding each
other together.

769
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,240
Sid, you've got something.
Go ahead.

770
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,280
Oh, Sid.
Oh, sorry, good morning.

771
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,440
Sorry, I have an Internet outage
issue or an Internet issues.

772
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,280
I'm not always hearing
everything.

773
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,240
OK, so I didn't hear you call.
No problem, sorry.

774
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:18,880
So I have two comments.
So for Dr. Ralph chime in.

775
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,400
OK, setting up an entity for
your business is not that hard.

776
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,440
You can do it at LegalZoom and
other places.

777
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,280
You can hire an accountant or an
attorney to help you do it and

778
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,240
pay a little bit more.
But it does certainly just give

779
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:35,240
you this like Peace of Mind.
I mean, I have 4 different LLCS

780
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:36,600
because I have 4 different
businesses.

781
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,600
Each one of them has their own
bank account, Each one of them

782
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,280
has their own QuickBooks
account.

783
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,200
Each one of them has their own
credit card.

784
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,000
And it can get confusing at
times because I bank at the same

785
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,680
bank.
So everybody's, I mean each

786
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,280
business's bank account is at
the same bank.

787
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,040
It's just easier for me.
But it does get confusing at

788
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,040
times.
But it's really not that hard to

789
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,200
set up an entity for your
business, is it?

790
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,960
And then I have a follow up
question comment.

791
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,440
All right, Sid, I love you
brother, but I'm going to tell

792
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,960
you that it may seem like it's
not that hard, but if you don't

793
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,280
do it right, it doesn't really
help you.

794
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,000
And that's where I was going
down the road.

795
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,360
Sid, if you've just setting up a
single member LLCS, then that

796
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,400
doesn't really give you the
legal protection and the tax

797
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,480
benefit that you could get by
setting up something different

798
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,760
that comes off of your personal
tax return and is really treated

799
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,760
separately.
I agree with what you're saying

800
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,120
said there are places online
where you can go and do it for

801
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,560
$199.
But I say this to clients all

802
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,680
the time.
You get what you pay for and you

803
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,400
want to make sure you set this
up correctly.

804
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,480
It's kind of like when you build
a house, you don't want to

805
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,960
scrimp and save on the
foundation of your house because

806
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,200
if you don't put a good
foundation, your house is going

807
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,360
to fall over.
So Sid, I commend what you're

808
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,560
saying, but I don't want to
just, I don't want to leave the

809
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,840
impression that it's this simple
thing to go set up this LLC

810
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,040
because I see those all the time
and I fix those all the time.

811
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,280
But you had a follow up question
too.

812
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,760
Sid and also I just want to
chime in, you know, somebody

813
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,520
like Sid who's been an
entrepreneur, a business person

814
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,840
for many years now, he might be
somebody that's educated enough

815
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,920
in knowing the insurance and
outs of filing, right.

816
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,560
But for a lot of content
creators, yours truly included,

817
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,880
I hate doing it myself.
I don't trust myself one bit.

818
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,280
And that was one, that was the
first thing that I ended up

819
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,080
doing with Ralph as far as
working together was I asked him

820
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,000
to do that for Empowered
Podcasting because for the

821
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,720
longest time, well, for the 1st
2 plus years, it was under my

822
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:32,400
business's umbrella.
And for now, what we've decided

823
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,160
is to separate it and make it
its own LLC.

824
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,440
And I did not trust myself
whatsoever to do that.

825
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,960
So yeah, I think it also depends
on your expertise, your

826
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,360
knowledge and your confidence
doing it yourself.

827
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,200
I think it's still probably
important to have somebody look

828
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,400
it over, even if you are doing
it yourself.

829
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,480
Yeah, and don't be afraid to
spend a little money to protect

830
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,280
yourself.
It's not an exorbitant amount of

831
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,080
money that you have to spend to
at least have a consultation

832
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,520
with somebody and say, hey,
Ralph, here's what I'm thinking

833
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,840
about doing.
What do you think I might say to

834
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,880
somebody like Sid?
Sid, man, you got it all figured

835
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,400
out.
You're an excellent businessman.

836
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,720
I wouldn't change a thing.
But if you don't know what you

837
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:12,400
don't know, that's what gets
people in trouble.

838
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,000
And that's when we have an issue
later on.

839
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,520
But I think Sid had a follow up
too.

840
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,000
Yeah.
And then Dr. So go ahead.

841
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,560
Sid Yeah.
Well, so for clarity, I don't do

842
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,000
crap when it comes to this.
I have an accountant and I've

843
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,280
had the same one for 15 years.
He files everything and he's a

844
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,760
pain in my butt.
Ralph, you guys all are in that

845
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,200
category, right?
And but he does everything and I

846
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,760
just follow the rules is what I
do, right?

847
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,320
But I, the young lady that's
been working for me for

848
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,240
marketing, when she started work
for me, I was paying her

849
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,080
personally and I'm like, why
don't you have a business?

850
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,080
You need a business.
And so I told her to find an

851
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,240
attorney and find an accountant.
And Ralph actually sent her to

852
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:51,280
your YouTube channel to consume
some of your content.

853
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,520
And she texted me on Saturday
and said I thanks for kicking me

854
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,520
in the butt.
And I talked to an accountant

855
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,680
and an attorney and I now have a
business.

856
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,400
So I sat down in front of
TurboTax the other day to help

857
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,440
my son file his taxes because
his summer job, he got a 1099

858
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,760
that showed up and she was paid
cash during a summer job.

859
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,040
So who knew that the guy was
going to file a 1099 on him?

860
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,320
So it's the most frustrating
thing I've ever done because.

861
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,040
He got a penalty.
He's only $99.00 for not paying

862
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,760
taxes.
He did make a decent amount of

863
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,800
money for a young man working
three months in the summertime

864
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,960
laying sod.
And he is being hit with to what

865
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,320
you said, self-employment tax.
And because he doesn't have a

866
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,000
business, but he's being forced
to pay self-employment tax.

867
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,320
So it was so frustrating and I
felt bad for him because he's

868
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,440
got a decent tax bill he's going
to have to pay because he

869
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,760
doesn't have any deductions to
go along with it or at least any

870
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,720
that he tracked because he
didn't know he was going to get

871
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:53,640
this 1099.
But if you, they're going to hit

872
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,360
you.
I think we lost the last part of

873
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,520
what you said there, Sid.
They're going to hit you

874
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,240
anywhere they can.
And the self-employment tax was

875
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:02,400
a surprise.
I wasn't prepared for him to

876
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,040
have to pay self-employment tax.
He's going to have to pay, but

877
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,320
he's got self-employment tax,
penalty tax and then whatever

878
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,000
percentage they want to take of
what money he made this summer.

879
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,160
And Sid, the problem that you
and I don't know if you want to

880
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,720
go here or not, the problem is
his employer didn't do it

881
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,400
correctly.
I have no doubt that your son

882
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,240
was not an independent
contractor.

883
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:25,000
And that's the thing.
See, a lot of business people

884
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,400
want to skate the system and
they say, well, I'll just send

885
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,280
you a 1099 because I want to pay
you cash.

886
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,600
That's not fair because the IRS
is very clear of who is an

887
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,480
independent contractor.
I want to go here for just a

888
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,560
second, Mark, because it's
important.

889
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,480
An independent contractor is
somebody who has their own tools

890
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,880
and equipment.
Sid, I don't think your son was

891
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,600
using his own truck, his own sod
laying stuff and all that sort

892
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,480
of thing.
They also have their own license

893
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,240
and insurance and they don't get
directed on on when they're

894
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,880
going to work start time and end
time.

895
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,640
And see the problem is a lot of
quote employers say, well, I'll

896
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,280
just send you a 10990 the end of
the year.

897
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,560
So they don't have to pay the
they don't have to pay the

898
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,800
self-employment tax portion.
They're supposed to pay Sid and

899
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,600
they don't have to pay workers
comp.

900
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,320
They don't have to have
insurance and all those sort of

901
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,480
things.
I get where your son's at

902
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,600
because your son's like, but I
had a good job, I made good

903
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,680
money, but they're kind of
sticking it to him on the on the

904
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,400
tax side because it's not your
son's fault, it's the employer's

905
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,720
fault.
Because I suspect your son

906
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,800
probably figured he was getting
paid under the table.

907
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,040
And when the 1099 came, I was
like, I wasn't expecting this.

908
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,800
Now here's what you could do,
Sid, since you asked, since your

909
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,120
son was treated as an
independent contractor, he could

910
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,400
go back and take a deduction for
any mileage to and from any of

911
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,960
the jobs, any of the tools or
equipment, clothing that was

912
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,720
used just for business.
If he's doing sod, he probably

913
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:43,840
buys gloves.
He probably buys work boots.

914
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:47,080
All those things would reduce
some of that tax, would reduce

915
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,080
some of that income, which would
therefore reduce that sub

916
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,440
emloyment tax.
Let's talk about sub emloyment

917
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,920
tax for just a minute.
It's 15.2%.

918
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,880
We're not talking about a small
amount here.

919
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:01,680
So if you're making $100,000,
that's $15,000 in extra tax.

920
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,840
So Sid, I hope that address your
question.

921
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,600
But because I get so frustrated
when clients come in and say

922
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,240
well, you know, I had an
employee, but I didn't pay

923
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:10,840
employee wages.
I'm like, well then you didn't

924
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,720
have an employee or you didn't
and it's a whole discussion.

925
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,240
But here's the content creators
take away.

926
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:19,240
If you are paying someone to
work with you in your content

927
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:24,280
creation, if you pay them more
than $600 a year, you as the

928
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,440
content creator have an
obligation to collect their

929
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,440
information.
It's a form called a W 9 form.

930
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,440
So before you pay anybody
anything I say he didn't have

931
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,640
the gold makes the rules.
As you're giving them their

932
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,960
money, say ha, I'm going to give
you your money, but you're going

933
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,560
to fill out this form for me.
Because that W9 form is going to

934
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,400
capture their name, their Social
Security number or their EIN

935
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,920
number, business ID number, and
their address.

936
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,080
So that somebody like me or
Sid's pain in the neck

937
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,880
accountant is going to say I
need W9 forms from you so I can

938
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,000
keep you out of trouble with the
IRS and send these to you.

939
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,320
So long answer, but it's very
important that you do that.

940
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,160
Thank you.
Ralph OK, I know Dr. had a

941
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,400
question and I think BCI saw
something he had put in the chat

942
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,920
that I want to hear out loud, so
go for it Dr. OK.

943
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,920
So I had two questions.
The first question is about the

944
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,080
LLC.
I know the pros of having an LLC

945
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,840
is that they can't go after your
business, they can only go after

946
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,360
you personally, right?
But I don't what are the cons of

947
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,680
having an LLC.
So, and I'm going to answer

948
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,680
Tide's question at the same time
it answers yours VR.

949
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,960
So the cons to it is you
definitely need to keep things

950
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,800
separate.
The other side of this is going

951
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,840
to cost you a little bit of
money upfront if you're going to

952
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,720
do it correctly because you're
going to have to file and create

953
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:42,200
this LLC.
Most states charge what's called

954
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,080
a franchise tax for the sake of
having a separate.

955
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:47,640
So when you set up an LLC,
you're actually creating a

956
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,360
separate legal entity.
That legal entity has to have a

957
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,400
governance underneath of it.
It has what's called an

958
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,120
operating agreement.
So it's going to cost you a

959
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,840
little bit of money.
For example, and I'm going to

960
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,480
put it right out there for
setting up LLCS, my firm charges

961
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,400
$1000.
And the reason we do that

962
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,160
because there's a lot of things
that go into this.

963
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,640
We have to get your EIN number
with the IRS.

964
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,520
That's a number like a Social
Security number for the

965
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,680
business.
We have to file your certificate

966
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,760
with the state.
We have to write operating

967
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,120
agreement.
It's a whole bunch of stuff that

968
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,760
goes into a making it done right
now.

969
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,400
Nikki also asked.
The question is how much do I

970
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,200
charge for consulting services?
Nikki Ioffer a free 15 minute

971
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,920
discovery call if you go to
contentcreatorsaccountant.com/help

972
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,080
me.
I would rather start there.

973
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,560
Let's understand what you've got
going on That is absolutely

974
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,320
free.
Don't charge a dime for that and

975
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,160
then we can talk about what
works best for you.

976
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:40,560
Getting back to DRS question the
cons, really Dr. is keeping

977
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,360
things separate.
If you do it the right way, it's

978
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,400
actually going to be put on a
separate tax return, either on a

979
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,080
partnership return or I love
subchapter S corporations with

980
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,520
an LLC to save on that
self-employment tax.

981
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,720
So Dr. those are the big two
things.

982
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,560
It's going to cost you money
upfront and it's going to cost

983
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,760
you money annually if you do it.
But here's the deal.

984
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,280
Well, we just talked about that
self-employment tax.

985
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,960
Once you have net income in your
content of about $8000, it pays

986
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,920
for itself in the tax savings
you're going to have on the

987
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,640
self-employment tax.
I'm not even talking about the

988
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,840
liability protection, I'm just
talking about the real tax

989
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,560
numbers.
I hope that answers your

990
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,640
question to you.
It does.

991
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:25,560
The second question I have is
regarding so I have a team I

992
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,600
have and it's offshore.
I've talked to you about this

993
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,280
before, separate on on, you
know, through Adm.

994
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Now, I know you told me that we
don't have to worry about

995
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:39,960
claiming them, but is this
something that I can write off?

996
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,960
Do you know what I mean?
Like as a deduction.

997
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,680
Yeah, if they present you with
an invoice and you pay them from

998
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,960
an invoice, then that's like
you're buying from anyone else.

999
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,200
Now, I will take back a little
bit of that doctor.

1000
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,040
It depends on where their home
base is. the US government has

1001
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,520
tax treaties with the multiple
countries where that's on them.

1002
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,280
They have to worry about
reporting the income.

1003
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,120
They have to worry about it.
But in general terms, if you're

1004
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,480
getting an invoice from them,
it's just like you're going to

1005
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,000
the store and buying something
and just like you're subscribing

1006
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,920
to Captivate or you're
subscribing to one of the

1007
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,360
platforms.
As long as you've got an

1008
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,920
invoice, yes, you can take a
deduction for that.

1009
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,160
OK.
Thank you.

1010
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,120
I appreciate it.
Thank you, DRI Know there are

1011
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,960
more questions and I just want
to throw this out because I want

1012
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,120
to make sure we get it in time.
As far as systems that we use, I

1013
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,280
use QuickBooks for ironic Media
and we're going to be using it

1014
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,000
for empowered podcasting as
well.

1015
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,080
QuickBooks, it can be a little
pricey for some people and it's

1016
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,080
always made my life a ton
easier.

1017
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,600
I can.
It really just helps keep things

1018
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,240
very organized.
And of course, when I'm working

1019
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:45,640
with Ralph and his team, he has
a bookkeeper that's also helping

1020
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,480
me each month go through my
books and make sure that

1021
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,360
everything is lined up properly,
right.

1022
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,840
But QuickBooks for me has been
wonderful.

1023
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,680
And I've been an entrepreneur
most of my adult life, so, and

1024
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:04,760
I've always used QuickBooks for
at least when it came time that

1025
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,080
I really recognized I would need
a system, I always would go to

1026
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,440
QuickBooks.
I think there are times where I

1027
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,000
would start business just
working with spreadsheets, for

1028
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,160
example.
OK, let's go to Sid.

1029
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,720
I know Sid had a question and
then I want to go to BC maybe

1030
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:20,080
for the final question of the
morning.

1031
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,560
We shall see.
Go ahead, Sid.

1032
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,520
Well, I don't actually have a
question.

1033
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,040
I had to follow up to doctor to
Ralph's question, which was

1034
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,520
something about, I forget now,
but my response?

1035
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,000
Is.
The reason that I think that

1036
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,680
people don't set up LLCS and
they don't set up their business

1037
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,240
the right way is they perceive
that it's complicated.

1038
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,560
And it may be complicated to
start in the beginning to get it

1039
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,840
all set up.
And at the end of the day, it's

1040
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,720
really just, you're just running
a system the way you run your

1041
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:52,320
personal life with bank accounts
and credit cards and things of

1042
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,960
that nature.
But I think getting it set up is

1043
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,200
what scares people because it's
easier to say, I'm just going to

1044
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,200
put it into this account and
I'll just use it and then I'll

1045
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,240
worry about it at the end of the
year.

1046
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:02,480
That's the easy path.
But in business, especially for

1047
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,160
people like Dr. where her
services are her primary core of

1048
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,560
income, then you should set up
the appropriate systems in order

1049
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,440
to run your business at the end
of the year.

1050
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,760
That you don't hate people like
Ralph and free people like Ralph

1051
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,320
don't hate you for not having
all your stuff together.

1052
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,920
Thank you, Sid.
All right, let's go to BCBC.

1053
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,840
You had a question.
Yes.

1054
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,800
So how can content creators go
about preparing for taxes when

1055
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,040
they don't typically start off
with any kind of reliable,

1056
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:41,360
consistent income and assuming
that they see a growth over time

1057
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,400
and potentially crossing
different tax brackets?

1058
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:50,040
What is your best suggestion on
what to, you know, how to how

1059
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,200
much to decide to put aside for
tax season?

1060
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,320
And and you know, yeah, what,
what, what is your best

1061
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,040
suggestion for that?
Great question BC it's a

1062
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,160
question to get all the time
through the content creators

1063
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,680
account and website.
What you're really talking about

1064
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,800
is inconsistent income.
This month I have income next

1065
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,280
month is crickets, the next
month I have.

1066
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,320
It's very hard, I'm not going to
lie to anybody.

1067
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,080
There's really two components to
that.

1068
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,720
Number one is look at your tax
return from last year and look

1069
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:20,040
at your effective tax rate.
At a very minimum, I would tax

1070
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,120
vault whatever your effective
tax rate is.

1071
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,720
So if you're filing a tax rate
in the United States and let's

1072
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:27,000
just say you're in the in the
middle to lower tiers, you're at

1073
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,440
the 22% tax bracket at the very
minimum, I put 22%.

1074
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,080
Now, if you're starting to see
things increasing, maybe you you

1075
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,280
cheat that up to 25 or even 30%.
The other side of this, and you

1076
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,280
didn't ask, it's not a tax
related question, but so many

1077
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,240
country creators get themselves
in trouble because they have a

1078
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:44,000
good month and they go and spend
and spend and spend and then all

1079
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,440
of a sudden crickets the next
month.

1080
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,480
So one of the things that I say
is don't spend money until you

1081
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,960
see consistency.
You know, what are your bare

1082
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,160
minimum business bills?
Don't spend more than that.

1083
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,560
It's what Dr. and I love what
Dr. said she goes, I have this

1084
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,480
fund and that fund I work with a
company called relay bank.

1085
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,480
One of the reasons I like relay
Bank is that we're able to set

1086
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,640
up pay yourself first scenarios.
We're able to set up separate

1087
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,760
accounts.
One of the things I like to do

1088
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,200
with the content creators said,
oh, you really want to get some

1089
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,360
new gear, don't you?
Great, here's what we're going

1090
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,800
to do.
We're going to set up a new gear

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00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,080
fund and every we're going to
put X number of dollars in that

1092
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,520
fund.
We're going to put so much in

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00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,440
the tax vault.
So BCI hope that answers your

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00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,400
question.
But at a very bare minimum, look

1095
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,560
at your effective tax rate from
last year.

1096
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:29,240
Understand whether you're going
to pay self-employment tax.

1097
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,520
Like Sid and I have beat that
horse to death, I think today.

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00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:34,440
So at least have an
understanding.

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00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,400
You may a good news is like as
much as Sid wants to throw

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00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,520
accountants under the bus and
I'm just being funny, Sid, if a

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00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,360
client comes to me and they're
prepared, hey, I get a hug at

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00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,760
the end of the meeting.
Oh, Ralph, I am so excited.

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00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,200
You told me to put that money in
a tax log and now I can go on a

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00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,880
vacation because I didn't even
need to spend that much because

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00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,180
you set me up for success.
And that's really the key take

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00:51:54,180 --> 00:51:56,920
away for today.
The key take away for today is

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00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,440
the biggest money mistake that
content creators do is they

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00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,880
don't set themselves up for
success from the beginning.

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00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,640
So if you've not heard anything
else I've said today, set

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00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,920
yourself up for success from the
beginning and then you will you

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00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,400
will get the benefits from that
for years and months and going

1112
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,920
on by setting it up with
intentionality at the front end

1113
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,080
and.
I do have one tiny follow up if

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00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,160
we got a minute for it, Mark.
Now if we do see the growth like

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00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,960
you mentioned, Ralph, and we do
decide, oh, maybe I should move

1116
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,560
up to this tax bracket for this
month, do we then need to

1117
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,840
retroactively look at previous
months and take a little bit out

1118
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,480
for those months, assuming at
the end of the year for next tax

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00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,040
season, The entire year is
treated as one tax bracket.

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00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,040
So if we end up upping how much
we put away further into the

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00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,840
year, do we have to
retroactively take care of that

1122
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,840
from previous months?
Yes, the answer.

1123
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,680
Quick question, quick answer,
yes.

1124
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,960
And the way I think about it as
a cumulative thing, so as you're

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00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,280
accumulating that profit, if you
were let's say the beginning of

1126
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,080
the year, setting aside 10%
first three months and then

1127
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,400
March, April, then all of a
sudden May comes and man, you

1128
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,120
landed amazing brand deal.
Now you may have to go look and

1129
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,760
say, OK, well year to date now
that 10% isn't going to work so

1130
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,480
I've got to go retro.
But honestly, if you think about

1131
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,920
it in terms of doing it weekly,
biweekly, monthly, I think

1132
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,640
you're going to be OK as long as
you're graduating that up.

1133
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,560
But always, yeah, that's, I
mean, when I work with clients,

1134
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,800
when we get closer to the end of
the year, we're looking at a

1135
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,920
bigger picture.
When we're first starting off in

1136
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,960
the first quarter, we're looking
at, OK, what happened the first

1137
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,600
quarter, OK, is this really
going to happen all year?

1138
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,320
Is it not?
But no, to answer your question,

1139
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,880
yeah, I mean, it's going to be
cumulative BC so at the end of

1140
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,360
the year, whatever that is,
that's what you're going to pay.

1141
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,520
So yes, you may have to, but if
you have a fantastic, you know,

1142
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,280
mid year and end of year, yeah,
you're going to have to retro

1143
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,640
and go back and say, oh, you
know what?

1144
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,080
The other thing here's a little
sneaky teeth take away too.

1145
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,640
That's when you want to talk to
somebody like me and says, hey,

1146
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:53,960
it's really hitting now, Ralph,
can we go back and fix this for

1147
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,880
the current year?
And the answer is yes, there's

1148
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,360
some things we can do to fix it
for the current year and

1149
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,480
potentially cut down on that
self-employment tax.

1150
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,640
You just got to reach out to
somebody that knows what they're

1151
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,000
talking about.
Gotcha.

1152
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,320
Cool.
Thank you Ralph.

1153
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,400
Awesome and I think we are
really close to time here.

1154
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,240
I know that Dr. chimed in the
chat said she uses Wave where I

1155
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:18,640
use QuickBooks.
There are lots of different

1156
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,160
ones.
I think Honey Book is another

1157
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,880
one that a lot of content.
Yeah, BC is giving the thumbs

1158
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,280
up.
A lot of content creators use

1159
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,120
Honey Book as well.
There are lots of different

1160
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,320
tools, but where do you want to
land this plane, Ralph?

1161
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,760
So here's the thing.
Like I said, be intentional and

1162
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,720
use what works for you.
If you love spreadsheets, use

1163
00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:39,960
spreadsheets.
If you love QuickBooks, use

1164
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,760
QuickBooks.
If you love honey, if you love

1165
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,320
Wave, whatever you're going to
use, I don't really care.

1166
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,840
Use something.
But like I said, my I want to

1167
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,080
land this plain on this
intentionality.

1168
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,880
Be intentional in your setup, be
intentional in the use of it.

1169
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,240
And like I said, like we said
today, you don't have to set up

1170
00:54:57,240 --> 00:55:00,120
something elaborate.
You can use a separate card.

1171
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,240
That's quote not business.
I think as you grow, you're

1172
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:05,240
going to grow into those things.
But it's really simple of trying

1173
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:08,480
to intentionally keep things
separate so that by the time you

1174
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,440
get to the end of the year, you
know, OK, here's what I can

1175
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,240
expect.
Here's how much I've got set

1176
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:17,320
aside for taxes and you don't
have that scary feeling like Oh

1177
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,040
my God, April 15th again.
I hate this time of year.

1178
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,880
If I can make you feel better
about tax time, then I've done

1179
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,720
my job well.
And then people like Said won't

1180
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:29,360
hate the accountants anymore.
Yes.

1181
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,200
And I'm glad we have a content
creators accountant here on the

1182
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,040
podcasting morning chat,
somebody who I think does make

1183
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,760
it much more digestible.
I'll say that it's never fun

1184
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,040
having to deal with your taxes
and your money.

1185
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,920
And that's, well, it can be fun,
I guess.

1186
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,000
But as far as keeping it all
organized and doing all the

1187
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,560
things that we've shared today,
it can be challenging.

1188
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,960
And Ralph certainly does make it
easier.

1189
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,520
And remember to go to that URL.
If you want some more customized

1190
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,760
advice from Ralph, go to
contentcreatorsaccountant.com/help

1191
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,520
me.
Is that right?

1192
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,760
You got it.
Just content

1193
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,960
creatorsaccountant.com/help me.
I'll be happy to jump on a call

1194
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,960
with you.
I got to be honest with you,

1195
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,120
right now my schedule is super
busy, but as soon as we get past

1196
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,560
April 15th, I love content
creators.

1197
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,120
I'm happy to sit down with you,
do a Zoom call, 15 minutes, and

1198
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,360
we'll talk about what's going
on.

1199
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,840
And then as Nikki said, we can
talk about what that looks like

1200
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,240
in the future.
I just want to throw one more

1201
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:25,480
thing out there.
Dave mentioned about Canadian

1202
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,280
taxes.
I don't do Canadian taxes, but I

1203
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,120
do consult with people in Canada
to help them with that scenario.

1204
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,200
I just don't prepare Canadian
taxes.

1205
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,800
But honestly, Dave, most of the
time money is money and there

1206
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,240
are some nuances to it.
But I can work with people all.

1207
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,880
I have clients all over the
world that I work with in this

1208
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,360
regard.
So I am the person to go to if

1209
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,120
you find like, it's a good fit,
if you feel like there's a good

1210
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,160
relationship here.
Awesome.

1211
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,360
Thank you, Ralph, and thank you
all for this great conversation.

1212
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,440
Sometimes when you know it comes
to taxes and organizing your

1213
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,360
money may not be the most
engaging topic on a lot of

1214
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,560
shows, but I think this today
was a very engaging discussion.

1215
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,320
So thank you for bringing this
today, Ralph.

1216
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,680
Looking forward to the next one
I want at some point, maybe it's

1217
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,200
the next one, maybe it's one
upcoming, but I'd love to talk

1218
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:16,080
more monetization secrets
strategies as a content creator.

1219
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,040
So maybe we can talk a little
bit about that and see what we

1220
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,480
can put together for the next
one.

1221
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,560
We are back tomorrow at 7:00 AM
Eastern.

1222
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,640
We are opening the mailbag I
will be hosting live from my

1223
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,800
parents home tomorrow.
I'm going to visit my folks and

1224
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,400
friends and family in Maryland.
So we'll see how all of that

1225
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,600
works out.
I'm I've got a little anxiety

1226
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,720
about putting it all together.
But remember, you can find out

1227
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,280
all the ways to connect with us
at podcasting morning

1228
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,840
chat.com/join us.
And I want to say this, please

1229
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,440
come tomorrow if you are, if you
consider yourself a member of

1230
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,680
this community, come tomorrow
because I have a what could be

1231
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:00,400
considered a relatively big
question to ask you about this.

1232
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:05,640
Show some thoughts I have about
possible changes possible.

1233
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,880
But I don't like to make changes
without working with you, the

1234
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,080
community first to get a good
understanding of how you feel

1235
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,760
about any changes.
So don't be scared, but I want

1236
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,840
you to come tomorrow so that you
can give your input.

1237
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,400
Ralph, did you have something
else you wanted to?

1238
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,800
Say before, I just want to say
one more thing.

1239
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,120
If you're getting value from the
show, we'd love for you to

1240
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:24,200
support the show.
You can go to

1241
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:29,640
podcastingmorningchat.com/support.
Again, that's podcasting morning

1242
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,440
chat.com/support and show us a
little love that you're

1243
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,400
appreciating the show and where
we're going with the show.

1244
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,120
So thank you, Mark.
And remember, all links that we

1245
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,080
share with you during the show,
we will put those in the show

1246
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,600
notes.
I know we've thrown out a lot of

1247
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,200
them today.
So just go check the show notes

1248
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,400
and you'll have your directory
of links to go check out.

1249
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,520
So thank you all for a great
conversation.

1250
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,240
We'll be back tomorrow.
And until then, make it a great

1251
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,760
day.
Everybody, take care.