477. Podcasthon: When Podcasting Becomes Bigger Than Content

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Good morning, podcasting.
Morning Chat.

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Today is Thursday, March 19th,
2026, and today it's podcast on

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a worldwide initiative
celebrating charities and

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nonprofits around the world
through podcasting as each of us

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shares who are spotlighting and
the personal story behind it.

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So if you're listening live on
Clubhouse, hit the share button,

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bottom left hand side of the
screen and share it.

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However, Clubhouse lets you.
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And now give us about 30 seconds

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Good morning again podcasting

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morning Chat.
Thank you so much for being

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here.
I am your host Mark Ronik and

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currently on stage with me we
have my Co hosts Dr. Faye,

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Ralph, Estep.
We also have Janaeed and Tide

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AKA Nikki joining us from the
audience, our regulars here on

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stage.
Awesome to have you guys there

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and I know it's usually a much
longer list.

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Quite frankly, I don't know
where the whole team is today,

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but I know that BC Babbles will
be joining us a little bit

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later.
He gave me the heads up this

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morning that he was going to be
a little late and we'll find out

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where the rest of the crew is
momentarily.

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But I am really excited to get
into today's topic and I'll

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first share about that and then
we're going to talk a little

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podcasting for a moment.
But first, like I said, today

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we're joining this global
podcast movement that encourages

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hosts to use their platform to
shine a light on a 'cause that

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they care about.
Podcast on dot org.

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By the way, spelled with one T
is about convincing as many

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hosts as possible to dedicate
one episode of their show to a

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charity of their choice and to
release these episodes

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simultaneously in a coordinated
effort this very week, creating

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a massive and international wave
of inspiring content.

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The objective to raise awareness
for a huge number of charities

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worldwide.
So you can learn more about

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Podcast Thon.
Check them out at Podcast

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thon.org.
Like I said, one T in Podcast

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Thon, even though it should be
too, but it's one T.

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So today what we'll do is I'm
going to go around the room and

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if you are listening in the
audience, John, Mike, Dave,

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Austin, Tim, come up and share a
nonprofit, a charity, an

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organization that you support or
would like others to support.

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I've got to believe that even if
there isn't one that's maybe a

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go to for yours, you could
probably think of 1 and come up

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and share it and share why you
chose it.

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But let's be a part of this
awesome initiative.

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I think there's somewhere around
3000 different podcasts that are

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actually participating in this.
So I really want us to do our

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part as well and really shine.
And I think that's the beauty of

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this show is that we have so
many voices that we can do

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something special like this
together.

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Yes, Ralph, you had something.
Go ahead.

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Yeah.
I just want to let everybody

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know that if you want to support
one of the charities we're going

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to be talking about today, we
actually have built a website,

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part of our website, and you can
get that at Podcasting Morning

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chat dot com slash charity.
And if you want to send me over

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a link to your charity, we'll
make sure we put it up on the

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website.
But again, that's Podcasting.

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Morning chat.com/charity.
Thank you, Ralph for putting

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that together and thank you,
Tim, for joining us on stage as

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well.
Love that.

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OK, so before we dig into that.
Look, we're a show about

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podcasting.
It feels weird to me if we don't

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talk at all about podcasting in
any way, shape or form, even

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though I know we're doing
something special today.

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And side note, by the way, stick
around.

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Fingers crossed. 7:30-ish AM.
My best friend Jonah Berger is

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joining us.
Jonah has a disease called CMT

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Shark O Marie Tooth, and I am
supporting the CMTA who raises

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money and awareness to cure CMT.
But first you heard it, that

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wheel of jargon.
We also have had a wheel of

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topics here in the past.
The wheel of jargon.

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I'm going to ask, I'm going to
put someone on the spot.

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Dr. Would you mind sharing what
the wheel of jargon is while I

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put it up on screen for our
visual audience?

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OK, sure.
So we realized that our audience

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is made-up not only of seasoned
podcasters, but also new

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podcasters just coming on board,
basically.

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And there are a lot of just like
any profession, they have their

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own jargon, their own words that
mean something just within that

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group of people.
And podcasting is no different.

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We have our own jargon, and it
could be very intimidating for

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new people coming on board.
And they don't know what an RSS

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feed is.
They don't.

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They know what a host is, they
don't know what any of these

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words mean.
And sometimes it really is very

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deflating.
So we have this wheel of jargon

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to help you out a little bit.
That was a perfect on the spot

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explanation.
Thank you DRI, appreciate you

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filling that time for me and
doing it with purpose.

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I love it.
All right, so I am going to spin

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the wheel and if for some reason
you don't hear it live, don't

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worry.
We're capturing the audio here

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on my Rd. caster and on
Riverside.

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So, spinning this wheel of
jargon, we'll see who wants to

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answer the question that it
lands on or the thing that it

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lands on.
Oh, I might have to go to you,

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Dr. 'cause I have in parentheses
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If you're looking at us on
screen, it says Dr. Suggested

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this one.
Oh boy, AIB.

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I hope it's one that I know.
AIB, Do you know it?

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AIB.
Oh, AIB it is.

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I'm not good at it, but I know
that it's like they're number

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one.
It costs an enormous amount of

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money for podcast hosts, hosting
platforms, distribution

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platforms to belong to the AIB.
And it is a set of no, you go

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ahead.
Because the wheel of jargon

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stumped the person who actually
put the thing on it.

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Well, maybe I put it on there
because I don't know what the

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hell.
It is Mark.

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Mark.
I think it's actually the I

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it's.
IAB it's.

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IAB.
It's the IAB.

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OK, well, there you go.
Maybe there was a typo on the

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wheel, I don't know.
So here's.

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What I That's what screwed me
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Yeah.
Do you know what it is or would

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you like me to share?
I would love for you to share.

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So when people in podcasting
talk about stats or downloads or

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ad measurement, they almost
always mean IAB, short for

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Interactive Advertising Bureau,
IAB sets widely used podcast

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measurements standards,
including how downloads are

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counted and filtered.
If you saw AIAB, well, IABAIB,

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it's IAB.
So the practical answer is in

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podcasting.
Yeah, I think I explained it.

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It's a measurement for.
It's a standard for measurements

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measuring different analytics.
Right now I will tell you that

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there are some distribution
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platforms that will not join the
IAB just because it is so cost

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prohibited.
And where will you find it on

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Lipson?
Lipson has a little IAB link.

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If you go up into, I think it's
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you can click on it and find out
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But there's some, like I said,
there are some distributing

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platforms that say we follow IAB
protocols, but we don't belong

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to them.
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Thank you.
Dr. Ralph, did you want to ask

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or add something?
Yeah, I just want to add one

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thing and we have to understand
what this is, what the real

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purpose of this is.
And the real purpose is as the

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money guy on the show, this is
so advertisers have a benchmark

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to know that the stats you're
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are certified.
That's the whole point of this

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IAB.
So because there was a sort of

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AI got my cowboy hat on today
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mentality to the downloads thing
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But it was really a way to have
a standard way to measure the

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downloads and all that sort of
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And Dr. is absolutely right.
There are certain hosting

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providers that are agreeing or
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is certified.
There's actually a certification

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process.
But again, as the money guy on

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the show, I want to go to the
the why of this.

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The why of this is to have some
non Wild West standards to

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measurement.
That is a great point.

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Thank you Ralph.
Does anyone else want to comment

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or add something?
I appreciate Janae putting in

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the chatiab.com.
That's where you can learn more

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about it.
OK, so it is like I said,

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podcast thon.
I don't need to go into a full

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explanation again.
And if you want more

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information, again, that URL is
podcast thon.org with one T in

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podcast thon.
So here's how I want to do it.

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I'm going to go down the line
and again, I want to encourage

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you in the live audience to
please come up, there's Alex

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Baelish, just in time.
Please come up and be prepared

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to talk about your charity.
I'll ask you a bunch of

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questions, so don't feel like
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here, right?
But I'll ask you some questions

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about what the charity is that
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I'll ask you to tell us a little
bit about it and what made you

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choose it.
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follow-ups along the way.
We'll see how many of these we

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can get through.
And 1st, let's go to Ralph.

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Ralph, good morning again to
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What charity or nonprofit are
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All.
Right, so today I want to talk

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about an anniversary.
And today is actually the

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three-year anniversary of my
mother passing away.

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And yeah, it's been a rough
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You don't realize until you're
an adult how much mom means to

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you.
And the reason I picked the

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charity I picked is the
Glioblastoma Foundation.

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And I want to give you a little
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So my mother was 76 and my
sister and I just, the two of us

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noticed that mom was slipping a
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And like, I remember 1 morning,
she was on her way to church and

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she forgot how to get there.
And it's about a mile from her

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house.
And my sister and I sort of

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thought, well, you know, this
is, you know, this is getting

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older.
She's starting to get forgetful.

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And I kind of, we have kind of
said, OK, well, you know, we'll

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get her some testing.
We'll see how things go.

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And it kind of got put on the
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Then for my mother's birthday,
my sister took her on a cruise.

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And right before she left for
the cruise, she came to our

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house for Thanksgiving.
And I could look in my mom's

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eyes and see something wasn't
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You could just tell like she was
looking off in a direction.

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It just didn't make any sense.
But I, again, I chalked it up to

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maybe she's tired, maybe
something's going on.

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And so she went on the cruise.
When she got back, she was

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completely different.
And my sister said, you know,

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she wouldn't get up in the
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My, my mom has always been an
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She raised my sister and I as a
single mom.

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My sister's name is Renee.
I said, Renee, we got to figure

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out what's going on here.
So she took her to the ER right

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away.
And the ER says, well, I think

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she has COVID.
This was all during the, you

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know, the, the, the back end of
COVID things.

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And I said, OK, I end up
spending a night with her in the

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ER And, and the doctors made
sense what they were saying.

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You know, your mom's a little
dehydrated.

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She's get, you know, she's
older, she's getting forgetful.

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And I said, OK, I'll, I'll
that's fine.

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That sounds reasonable.
So we took her home and, and

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again, like my mom wouldn't get
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She wouldn't, she wanted to do
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And so I guess it was about a
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sister said again, she took her
to the ER and and I'm going to

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apologize ahead of time.
I might get a little emotional,

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but this is just, this is Ralph.
I have a feeling this is going

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to be common for many of us.
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night to the ER.
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you know, I think we should run
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here to, to really understand
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And I'll never forget the phone
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My sister called me and she
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brain tumor.
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night and I was not in the right
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And I just said, how is that
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And she says, well, I'm going to
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this looks like.
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the crew, man, it looked like a
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And my mother in the front of my
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And the only thing I could think
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Yeah.
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know, she's going to have to
meet with a neurologist and all

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this kind of thing.
And it's a blur, Mark.

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But I remember going in with my
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They kept her in the hospital
because they were like, this is

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a problem.
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I think it was the next day, she
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neurologist came in and I was
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And neurologist says, I think
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called a glioblastoma.
And I'd heard the term before,

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but didn't really, it didn't
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me.
And he kind of said, he said,

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listen, this is not good.
And I said, wait a second.

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I said there's all kinds of
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There's all kinds of great
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I hear people, I have clients
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they're like, it's no big deal.
He goes, no, Ralph, you got to

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understand something.
This is one of the most

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aggressive tumors that you can
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And he said the really
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going to take a sidetrack, is we
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people.
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in their 50s.
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thinking, oh, great, what have I
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And it's still in the back of my
mind today, you know, is this a

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genetic thing?
So anyway, so my mother had same

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mind.
She goes, all right, well, what

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can we do?
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can go in and operate and see
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going on.
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eight hours later, bleeding,
there was 7 or 8 surgeons called

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in and, you know, they came to
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listen, we did everything we
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they, they did the best they

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the swelling in the brain.
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room, Mark, and to to say that
my mother never really gained

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functionality again would be an
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It just totally ravaged her.
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this is that she had made a
decision that she didn't want to

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have a life sustained on tubes
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And which was a blessing because
it was easier for my sister and

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I to make the hard decision we
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And that hard decision was, you
know, we we're going to see and,

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and, and doctor said, listen,
there's really no help.

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There's no hope here.
And that's the reason I'm

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sporting this charity, because
they're really working to find

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hope.
But just to continue the end of

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the story here, we got to a
point we were sitting there

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having a conference with the
surgeon trying to decide what

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was the next step.
And he says, you know, we can go

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in and try to do some more
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He says, Ralph, but we're not
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this.
This is the type of tumor that

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it kind of spiders out.
It goes out in all directions

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within the brain.
So there's really no way to get

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it.
And he said if it were my

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mother, I would let her go.
And just to attribute to how my

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mom is a fighter, we took her
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She lived for eight days with no
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And it was Sunday, March 19th,
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And they had put her into
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And I had the honor mark of
letting her go.

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I held her hand.
Listen, I'm Christian guy, I'll

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see her again, but it changed
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And if we can find a way for
families that not have to endure

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this, that's why I'm supporting
this charity, Mark.

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Thank you, Ralph.
I appreciate you sharing.

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I appreciate, I appreciate you
being comfortable enough to

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share your emotions around this.
I can only imagine how it feels.

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I am grateful that I have both
my parents and I've had I'm

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getting emotional just because I
don't know if it's because

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you're emotional or not, but I
have parents that have both gone

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through cancer.
My mom breast cancer twice.

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My father actually had lymphoma
on his brain, which is very rare

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with lymphoma and it's changed
him.

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He's still with us.
He's still a functioning human

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being and it's changed him.
He's definitely got some brain

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damage from that.
So I certainly can relate in

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some ways.
But in others, you know, I

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haven't lost a parent and I can
only imagine what it's like to

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say goodbye in that way.
So thank you for for sharing.

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And we want to talk for a little
bit a moment about the actual

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charity.
So if anybody wants to support

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them and what they do, I think
this is a good time to to share

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about them.
Yeah, Thank you, Mark.

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And the whole point of the
foundation is to really

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understand a disease which is
just about, you know, they can

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go in and operate and they do a
lot of things.

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But the problem with this
particular disease, it usually

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strikes people in their late 40s
and 50s, and it's honestly a

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death sentence.
I've known several people sense

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this, who have gotten this.
And yeah, they can sustain your

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life.
They go in and they go and take

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the tumor out what they can.
But it just doesn't resolve the

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issue.
And, and I love what this

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organization is doing because
they're trying to find a way to

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give people hope.
And, you know, if we can find a

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way to give people hope, I, I
don't know that there's a

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solution.
I don't know that there's a

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cure, but to just give a family
because if you think about it,

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Mark, you and I are about that
age, right?

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And we have children, we have
spouses, we have all those

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things.
And, you know, I guess my mom

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had lived a full life.
So I, I don't want to diminish

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that, you know, so there was
part of it was like, you know,

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OK, she got to see kids and
grandkids and, and all that sort

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of thing.
But if we can give somebody

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hope, that's why I really want
to support this organization

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'cause I think they're at the
forefront of trying to find ways

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to to solve this problem.
So I appreciate you giving me

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the time today on the show.
I apologize for getting a little

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emotional.
It's.

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Just.
With, with today being three

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years that it her, her picture
hangs in my office and I know

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I've shared with the group I
write songs and I wrote a song

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about that feeling of letting
her go.

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And yeah, it it is interesting
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Like you just don't realize how
much you miss your mom until you

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do miss her.
So here's my 1 take away for

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today.
Call your mom today.

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Yeah, speak to your mom today.
I would love to have that

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opportunity again.
If so, if nothing else, if maybe

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you aren't able to donate and
you do have a mom or a mom

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figure in your life, that's a
great way to honor Ralph the

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charity, his mom as well.
And just as what a surprising

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coincidence that this is the
three-year anniversary today on

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a day that we are recognizing
different charities and

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nonprofits supporting causes
that are very close to us,

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especially in this case, close
to you, Ralph.

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Thank you again for sharing
that.

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I know Jonah is going to be
joining us here shortly and I

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don't want to cut anyone else
short.

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So I'm going to go to one of our
guests on stage.

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Guests, meaning guests from the
audience, not guests of the

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community by any stretch.
Janae, welcome.

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Good morning.
Do you have a charity, a

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nonprofit, an organization that
you'd like to highlight today?

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What charity or nonprofit would
that be?

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Good morning, everyone.
After that one, I don't think.

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We don't all have to get
emotional.

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That's not the point of this.
Yeah, but it but it, but it was

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reminding me of my grandmother's
who had to, you know, go through

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some of these similar
situations.

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Not as crazy, but one of my
grandmother's she, she went in,

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she was perfectly fine.
She goes in for a routine

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checkup and they're like, oh, we
need to do a bypass surgery

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because you're some of the
blockages.

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They do the surgery and then
accidentally they pinprick her

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lungs when they're closing her
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So she ends up being in the
hospital for 10 years, 10 years,

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yes.
Whoa.

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Because because she was in her
70s when she went in seeing,

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seeing my grandmothers in that
situation.

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It's it's there's no, there's no
charity for such thing like

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that.
I mean, if, if they can just do

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a better job at treating
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If there's a charity for that.
I don't know.

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But for many years, since I've
came out to the States, I worked

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and volunteered with Islamic
Relief for many, many years and

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they provide support all over
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So that's the charity that I'm,
I'm going to be supporting some

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other charities and, and other
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that are local.
One of them is care.

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They're the Council on American
Islamic Relations providing

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legal support for Muslims who
might have been, you know,

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wrongly accused or, you know,
whatever, whatever have you.

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And they're fighting on the
behalf of the civil rights of

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people in the US.
So those are some of the

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organizations that I would
highlight because they're doing

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the work that most people, they
don't know where to go right

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when you have a lawyer issue who
you're going to go to.

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So those are the some of the
organizations that I support.

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Awesome.
And if you want to put, if

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there's any link that you can
provide, put it in the chat.

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We will make sure it's in the
show notes.

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We'll try to get it on our
podcasting morning

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chat.com/charitypage.
And Janae, back to the first

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thing that you were sharing.
There are organizations that I,

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I, they wouldn't put it as
fighting malpractice.

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That's just my terminology.
But there are some out there.

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There's the Patient Advocate
Foundation that helps patients

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navigate care insurance access
issues.

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There's also the National
Patient Advocate Foundation.

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There's the Patient Safety
Movement Foundation as well.

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So there are several that you
could probably indirectly

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support that specific cause.
But Janae, thank you for sharing

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both of those this morning.
I really appreciate it.

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Thank you.
Yeah.

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And Janae, do you want to share
anything about your website

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while we're chatting about your
new product coming out?

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Sure.
So the the new product coming

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out is called pod glue.
It's the podcasters operating

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system to focus on building
relationships over episodes

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because as podcasters, we think
that our episodes are the

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product, but the episode are
just a vehicle.

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Just like here and on Podcasting
Morning Chat.

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Every episode we come closer, we
become friends over life.

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It's an amazing way to start a
relationship, start a

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friendship, start a partnership,
whatever have you.

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I mean, just six months ago we
had our good friend Ralph join

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Podcasting Morning Chat every
single day.

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And now where we at he's, you
know, he's executive producer

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and as well as being the the
title sponsor for Empire

450
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,520
Podcasting conference coming
later year.

451
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,160
So again, podcasting is not a
product.

452
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,800
We talk about it monetizing, we
talk about it making money for

453
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,160
us, but that's not the point.
The point is to build

454
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,440
relationships, build
communication and use it as a

455
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,040
vehicle to connect deeper with
other people.

456
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,040
I think, and I think that's the
thing that we all miss with

457
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,760
podcasting and a lot of people
see that.

458
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,840
And if anybody's on the fence of
starting a podcast, don't

459
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,680
because you're going to build so
many more connections, so many

460
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,040
more people over the world.
It's going to it's going to be a

461
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,520
game changer.
So PRM is the book that's coming

462
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,360
out same day.
I've got prmbook.com.

463
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:31,160
So if you want to go on the list
and then Pod Glue is the

464
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,800
implementation of that
philosophy.

465
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,880
Thank you so much.
You are welcome, Janae.

466
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,880
Thank you.
Pod, glue.com, prm.com, that's

467
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,520
what you said.
Prmbook.com, right?

468
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,760
Prmbook.com Thank you, Janae.
And now I know that my buddy

469
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:55,760
Jonah, who is the reason for my
support of the CMTAI know he is.

470
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,080
He just texted me.
He's heading to his office.

471
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,920
So I'm trying to think of what
should I do here while we wait.

472
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,680
All right, I know what we're
going to do here.

473
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,680
We're going to spin the wheel
once more.

474
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,400
Yes, I know it might feel a
little jarring after we're

475
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,240
having some deeper conversation.
Then all of a sudden I played

476
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,280
the silly Jingle and now I'm
spinning the silly wheel.

477
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,840
But the silly wheel has good
value to bring us, so let's see

478
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,480
where this lands while we're
killing.

479
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,120
Time for Jonah to join us.
This is a good one.

480
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,600
I have a feeling we could hear
from Jinnade on this one, as

481
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,000
well as one of our tech members
of the community.

482
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,400
ID 3 tags.
What are ID 3 tags?

483
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,400
Now I have a very sloppy
definition I could give, but I'm

484
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,440
curious if anybody would be
willing to give a little more

485
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,920
clear and concise 1.
I'll take that.

486
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,760
I've edited ID 3 tags for over
30 years and that's specifically

487
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,120
because when Napster was coming
on you, you'd get these music

488
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,840
and and all of the data would be
all over the place.

489
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,880
And do you discover ID 2 tags?
Essentially it's a metadata

490
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,880
container embedded within audio
files, mostly MP threes.

491
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,880
So you can store content such as
artist, title, album, genre,

492
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,520
track number and cover art.
So I would be sitting there on

493
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,640
iTunes and different apps and
editing ID 3 tags, attaching a

494
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,680
cover art to it.
So it brings a lot of joy.

495
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,760
Thank you, Janae.
I think you got a little cut off

496
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,760
there at the end.
All right, So Jonah, there is

497
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,680
some good echo going on.
Well, welcome, Jonah Berger.

498
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,200
Thank you.
OK, well, let's get into it.

499
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,280
So Jonah is here, as I've shared
multiple times this week and

500
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,680
today, Jonah is my closest,
dearest friend.

501
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,760
We've been friends since I was
about 14 years old, Jonah about

502
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,320
50 or he was 15 years old at the
time.

503
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,400
We met at summer camp, Camp
Ramblewood.

504
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:09,520
And that has been a big part of
our lives for sure.

505
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,440
And to this day, our some of our
closest friends are all from

506
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,080
camp.
My wife is from camp and Jonah

507
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,760
married someone not from our
camp, but somebody he met at

508
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,440
camp.
So it's very special to us and I

509
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,360
wanted to highlight CMT because
yes, Jonah was born with CMT.

510
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:30,920
It is a hereditary disease in
most cases.

511
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,360
I know that there can be
spontaneous cases as well, but

512
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:38,480
in the majority of the cases it
is passed down South.

513
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,560
Jonah, for anyone hearing about
CMT for the first time today,

514
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,400
can you tell us what it is and
what daily life with it can look

515
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,360
like?
OK.

516
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:53,040
CMT is a condition where in
what's called the periphery of

517
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,680
our bodies.
So from our elbows to our

518
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,680
fingers and our knees to our
toes, the nerves that are coated

519
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,680
in a myelin sheath, that's the
coating on your nerves.

520
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,520
Our myelin sheath in those parts
of our bodies are not

521
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,040
functioning the way that they're
supposed to.

522
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,360
They're too thin, whatever.
So the messages from our brain

523
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,440
to the muscles between our
elbows and fingers and knees and

524
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,800
toes don't get there as clearly
and as fast as they need to.

525
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,920
And they're the messages slowing
down 'cause the muscles to be

526
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,760
weak.
And mostly my wrists and hands

527
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,160
and ankles and feet.
And what that looks like

528
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,840
day-to-day is that when I get up
in the morning I have to have a

529
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,880
instead of pop my shoes and
socks on.

530
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:43,280
I have a 5 minute process to put
on leg braces and shoes and I

531
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,640
need some help buttoning my
shirts.

532
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,600
I need some help with fine
motor, little things with my

533
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,720
hands and the other thing is
tripping.

534
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,680
I fall a good bit, I trip a good
bit.

535
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,760
I'm clumsier than most just
because of lack of balance and

536
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,200
that has proven over the years
to be the biggest frustration I

537
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,080
would say.
Yeah, I hear you.

538
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,640
And the the fine motor skills is
something that I know I'm always

539
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,560
very sensitive to.
I know that and about you, and I

540
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,440
know how it always reminds me
when I see you dealing with it,

541
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,120
just how challenging CMT is
because the way you operate,

542
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,240
great.
People quickly forget that you

543
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,760
have CMT, right?
So when I see you struggling,

544
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,240
putting, you know, buttoning a
shirt, for example, it's like,

545
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,080
Oh yeah, that's right, Jonah has
CMT.

546
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,320
You can't do that.
I'm proud.

547
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,800
I'm a big personality and I'm a
very kind of dominant

548
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,600
personality, and I think that
that echoes in strength.

549
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,560
And so when you see a big
personality deal with weakness,

550
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,960
it's kind of a yeah, a
difference.

551
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,040
It's a little shocking.
Almost totally.

552
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,080
So Jonah, this was a question
that I know Dr. Who's with us

553
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,240
here today.
She had asked the other day.

554
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,800
It was just about when did you
first started started noticing

555
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,280
CMT?
When did you first realize it

556
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,800
was going to affect your life in
a lasting way?

557
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,800
And can you share how living
with CMT has shaped you over

558
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,760
your lifetime?
Good morning, Dr. Good question.

559
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,400
I I remember the moment actually
because it's the first page in

560
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,080
the book that I wrote about my
life with CMT.

561
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,520
I was in gym class one day, I
think it was the 6th grade, and

562
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,760
I hit the ball over the second
baseman and I ran towards first

563
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,240
and I was like, I hit it over
the second baseman, man.

564
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,280
I got plenty of time and I ran
as fast as I could, as hard as I

565
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,160
could.
And I remember for the first

566
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,160
time consciously feeling like I,
the way I phrase it in my book,

567
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,280
my spirit was running faster
than my legs were.

568
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,440
And that was such a real
feeling.

569
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,240
And I write in the book, I wish
my 50 year old self could be

570
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,600
there in that moment to be like,
don't worry kid, you're going to

571
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,880
be OK.
Like it's all going to be fine.

572
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:04,040
Because in now from 54 years
old, I can tell you not only has

573
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,920
CMT turned out to be tolerable,
it has molded who I am

574
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,720
completely.
Yesterday I spoke at the middle

575
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,400
school in our town in Michigan
to the 6th, 7th and 8th graders

576
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,280
about appreciating each other's
differences, not making fun of

577
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,280
them, but understanding them and
learning to talk to each other.

578
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,600
And I just, there's something so
profound about finding the

579
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,120
positive in a negative.
And my mom taught me to do that.

580
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,760
And I have very, very
consciously followed that lead

581
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,120
because it has led me to this
understanding that if your

582
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,720
perspective is positive, your
challenges can actually be

583
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,160
positive.
They can be shaping to your life

584
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,040
and to your choices and your
perspective.

585
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,840
If your perspective is negative,
the exact same thing is true.

586
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,960
Everything can feel negative.
So we don't have control over

587
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,560
what we are dealt often, but we
have full control over what we

588
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,280
do with it.
Yeah, that's all about your

589
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,000
reticular activating system.
That's the thing that when you

590
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,840
have a certain perspective, you
see more of that perspective.

591
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,920
Right.
Right.

592
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,560
So it's like, yeah, if you're
going to be really down and

593
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,200
negative about a situation like
having CMT, that's right.

594
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,680
That's what you're going to see
more of.

595
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,320
You're going to see a lot of
negativity, a lot of struggle,

596
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,240
right.
But then Jonah, on the other

597
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,760
side of that coin, being so
positive, then you start to see

598
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,280
all the positive stuff around
CMT, like the CMTA, which I know

599
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,800
now you are also employed by,
you are, and I don't know your

600
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,920
exact title.
I say you're the youth director,

601
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,080
but I'm not sure if that's
actually.

602
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,440
Officially, I am the National
Youth Youth Programs Manager.

603
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,720
Got it.
Yes, got it.

604
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,080
And the big thing that Jonah
does the the Super Bowl of his

605
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,800
job is camp footprint, which I
have shared with you all before.

606
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,640
I've been I for the first time
after 10 years of him doing it,

607
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,920
I came and volunteered as a
counselor there and I'm doing it

608
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,480
twice this year.
So really excited about that.

609
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,160
We can talk a little bit more
about that.

610
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,400
But first, DRI, think you had
another question.

611
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,639
I do.
So, Jonah, thank you so much for

612
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,520
being with us today.
So I know that CMT has been

613
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,920
around for many, many, many,
many years.

614
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,440
And a lot of times when people
give money to a charity, they

615
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,480
think it's probably not doing
any good because it's been

616
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,760
around for so long.
So I would like for you to talk

617
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:35,960
about the advances that CMT has
made in research, maybe in like

618
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,679
simple hacks that we call hacks
nowadays from the time that you

619
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:45,520
got it to present.
Yep, great question.

620
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,719
So up until the last 10 years or
so, it's been all hacks.

621
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,719
How can we help you to figure
out life and navigate life with

622
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,520
CMT?
Because there is no treatment.

623
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,360
There's still officially is no
treatment, but about 10 to 15

624
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,600
years ago, the first half in
curing a disease is to identify

625
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,960
what's the problem.
Then it becomes easier because

626
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,200
you just have to learn how to
fix that problem.

627
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,120
We learned what the problem is,
the overproduction of PMP 22,

628
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,640
truth be told.
And since that day, now we are

629
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,280
literally in the home stretch of
starting to find a cure.

630
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,480
And the way I always phrase it
to people who don't understand

631
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,240
science like myself is that I
met with Doctor Shy, who's the

632
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:37,240
world's leading researcher for
CMT, and I got up on his table.

633
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:41,400
This is like 1520 years ago now.
I got up on his table and I was

634
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,320
being a smart ass.
And I said, Doc, when are you

635
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,680
going to cure this thing
already?

636
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,160
And he looked me square in the
eye with a straight face.

637
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,640
And he said, in your lifetime,
that's how close they are.

638
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,760
And I'm 54 y'all.
I'm getting older.

639
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,080
So, you know, it's, it's that
fast.

640
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,920
The other thing I would tell you
to that question, Dr. is that

641
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,120
often times in curing a disease,
different researchers, different

642
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,520
countries researchers are
competing with each other

643
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,360
because whoever finds it first
gets the money, gets the fame,

644
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,280
blah, blah, blah.
The world's researchers, when

645
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,520
the CMTA researchers, Dr. Shai
and his team reached out to

646
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,240
them, all came together for a
meeting.

647
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:23,200
And the Long story short is they
said we are so close with this

648
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,920
thing that if we work together,
we can cure this thing 10 times

649
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,640
faster.
If we keep competing, it's going

650
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,760
to be slower.
And not only did everyone agree,

651
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,200
but they agreed and signed on to
what's called the Star Alliance.

652
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,040
And the star is kind of the CMTA
symbol.

653
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:39,920
The Star Alliance means that all
the world's leading researchers

654
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,320
decided instead of the chance
that we could get the credit,

655
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,640
let's work together.
Because if we do, we can

656
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,080
genuinely cure this thing sooner
than later.

657
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,880
So it's a very exciting time.
And we got a five star rating

658
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,760
from national nonprofit, which
means that we do everything

659
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,760
right basically with the
donations, 94% of donations go

660
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,920
directly to research.
Amazing.

661
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,520
Great question, Doctor, too.
And I think that's a really good

662
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,480
question to ask on a day like
today when we were talking about

663
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,680
all these different
organizations and nonprofits

664
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,960
that we're interested in
supporting.

665
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,560
All right, Jonah, I know you
have a lot going on.

666
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,640
This Ralph's question.
Anyone in a 10 gallon hat gets

667
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,480
gets to ask a question.
This is Ralph's Thursday attire.

668
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,760
He actually has a farm with
cows, so that is a legitimate

669
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,600
cowboy hat.
Go for it, Ralph.

670
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,000
Yeah.
And Jonah, I just want to

671
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,640
congratulate you, man.
You work for a great

672
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,480
organization.
And as the money guy on the

673
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,320
show, eyes look at the backside
of this.

674
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,920
And Jonah is telling the truth
when he said they have an

675
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,560
excellent reigning.
One of the sites that I use is

676
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,680
Charity Navigator.
And Charity Navigator scores

677
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,640
them a very high score for a
great organization to work with.

678
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,560
So do your homework.
But Jonah's organization is

679
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,440
right on point.
So Jonah, thank you so much for

680
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,160
what you're doing for the
organization, and thank you for

681
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,560
having an organization that does
it the right way.

682
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,280
There's a lot of charities out
there that don't.

683
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,640
And Jonah, so I just commend you
and I wish you well.

684
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,200
Thank you, cowboy.
Look, my the book that I wrote,

685
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,440
he walks like a cowboy.
That's that's me right there in

686
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,560
my there it is.
Very, very appropriate.

687
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,000
We will have a link to that in
the show notes as well, and I've

688
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,840
shared it live here on
Clubhouse.

689
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,120
Joe, Now I'm going to ask you
one final question.

690
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,360
This is a question that I don't
think we talk a lot about as

691
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,200
best friends.
You and I have been best

692
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,320
friends, like I said, for a
really long time.

693
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,360
How do you think CMT has played
a role in our friendship,

694
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,240
whether in ways people might
notice or ways they may not?

695
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:47,680
Well, I would say that it played
a role in our early days, in our

696
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,280
teenage years because I was
really starting to adjust to CMT

697
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,880
and it was really starting to
kick in.

698
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,400
And man, those, those early
friendships, especially as guys

699
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,040
go at that age, to have people
like you in my life who actually

700
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,000
had a true heart and an open
heart to it.

701
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:07,560
You always just came along for
the ride.

702
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,520
You never once were phased.
You just jumped right in.

703
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,320
And I think that was without
really knowing it in the moment,

704
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,760
in retrospect, that was probably
some of the biggest components

705
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,040
of the foundation of a
friendship that was going to

706
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,720
last a lifetime.
There's just no two ways about

707
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,360
it.
And as we grew older and we

708
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,440
lived together for a chunk of
years in our young adult days,

709
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,200
that's when I got my first pair
of braces.

710
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,480
That's when I was dealing with
some of my biggest frustrations

711
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,360
around adjusting to it and being
comfortable with it.

712
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,640
And man, anytime you saw I was
struggling, you were there.

713
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,880
Anytime you saw that I had
accomplished something, even

714
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,920
emotionally, you were there to
back it up.

715
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,600
And so like life, not just CMT
life, we have always done it

716
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,520
side by side man and CMT having
a brother in arms to go through

717
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,320
it with, especially someone who
didn't.

718
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,920
Understand it intrinsically.
You didn't have it, and you were

719
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,480
still there.
Like you were in it with me, not

720
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:13,080
just observing it.
And so, yeah, there's not enough

721
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,760
time in the world to talk about
how much that means to someone

722
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,520
who's dealing with a challenge
like this.

723
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,920
Yeah, I can appreciate what
you're saying.

724
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,840
And it's funny because I don't
know that I ever made any

725
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,160
conscious effort like that.
It wasn't a plan that I had

726
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,800
like, OK, I'm going to handle
this this way.

727
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,280
It was just something natural.
And I think it was really maybe

728
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:39,240
more instinctively, because I
think I probably approached it

729
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:44,560
how I'd want to be approached if
I were, if I had CMT or had some

730
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,000
kind of disease, this is how I'd
want to be treated.

731
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,600
Thank you, Jonah, for being
here. cmt.org is the place to go

732
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,160
to donate to CMT and actually
make a big difference toward

733
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,600
this very close cure that we
have here.

734
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,480
So please go and support.
And also, if you want to get

735
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,680
Jonah's book, it's called He
Walks Like a Cowboy.

736
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:07,000
Thanks Jonah, you're so welcome.
Pleasure to meet you guys.

737
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,840
Having a a quick chat during the
craziness of my morning.

738
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,280
It was really nice connecting so
have a great day.

739
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Tell them about candy man.
OK, I will they they've heard it

740
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,000
before.
OK, candy man.

741
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,720
What he's referring to was from
Camp Footprint, the camp that is

742
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:29,920
designed for children with CMT
to help them just feel like kids

743
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,200
and not worry about what other
people are thinking or doing.

744
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,520
The candy man reference if you
have been following us since

745
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,240
last August, I was designated
the Candy Man, which on the

746
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:44,400
surface might sound a little
creepy because here I am going

747
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,080
around to camp with little kids
handing out free candy.

748
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:53,000
But this was approved by the
organization and yeah, basically

749
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,040
everyday.
Just think like the candy man.

750
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,040
I'm sorry, Just think like the
ice cream man or the ice cream

751
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,040
person that comes down your
neighborhood St.

752
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,800
It was the same idea.
I would drive around a golf cart

753
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,840
going to different activities,
stopping, and then the kids

754
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,680
would line up and wait for their
candy.

755
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,600
And it was a great way for me to
get to know the kids in such a

756
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,040
fun way.
So the CMTA is doing lots of

757
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,600
great things and I really
encourage you if any of this

758
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,720
touch to you today to go to
cmtausa.org, that is the website

759
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:32,240
cmtausa.org and go donate today.
Thanks again to Jonah for being

760
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:34,640
here.
I want to keep things moving.

761
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,840
Would anybody who would like to
share about their organization

762
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,800
that they'd like some support?
All right, Dr. are you pointing

763
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,480
to you?
You got to go for it, Dr. OK so

764
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,560
last week I shared with you that
my husband and I celebrated 4

765
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,440
years of cancer being cancer
free.

766
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:05,680
He had colon cancer and you
know, it's so funny when he was

767
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,360
in the hospital during the
surgery and everything, he spent

768
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,240
about 3 days in the hospital and
in between visiting him and

769
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:19,560
doing my regular job with
podcasting, I, I was kind of

770
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,800
shut out.
He was like, I'm the man, don't

771
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,560
worry about me, everything is
okay.

772
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:31,320
I thought, I'm, you know, this
is, this is our life.

773
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:38,200
So what I did was I dove in deep
to all the Facebook pages that

774
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,680
had anything to do with ostomy
and colon cancer and things like

775
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,000
that, and I read up on it.
I did like a crash course in

776
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,960
those three days and it was just
an amazing thing.

777
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,640
I, I learned a lot and stuff
that he didn't even know he was

778
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,160
coming to me for, you know, what
should I do about this?

779
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,480
And I had answers for him
because I had studied.

780
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:10,040
And so my charity is stand up
for Cancer and and it's perfect

781
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,480
because, you know, Brian and I
are we kind of think of

782
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:22,480
ourselves as so funny.
So especially on Friday, you

783
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,160
know, Twister twisted Jeopardy.
Anyway, I kind of when I was

784
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,640
living in LA, I kind of dipped
my toe into the cesspool of

785
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,000
comedy writing and things like
that jerked it out real fast.

786
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:37,560
But that's okay.
But that's why this charity is

787
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:44,240
so perfect for us, because it's
all about comedy and making

788
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:49,640
people laugh and it's a feel
good thing and also bringing

789
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,320
awareness.
So that's why I chose Stand Up

790
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,600
for Comedy.
I love that stand.

791
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Up for cancer, sorry.
Stand up for cancer with comedy

792
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,520
with comedy, Yeah.
And they have a lot of big

793
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,080
partners involved in this
program as well.

794
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,360
You can go to
standuptocancer.org to learn

795
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,480
more about that.
And DRI think you had shared

796
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,640
some news with us that your your
husband got a good report

797
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,440
recently, right?
Yeah, last.

798
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,840
That was my win last Friday.
Oh God, Now I'm going to have to

799
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,200
come up with a win for this week
anyway, OK.

800
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,120
It's not supposed to be
something that you sigh about.

801
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,080
OK, go ahead.
OK.

802
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,040
So yeah, four years since the
operation, since all the cancer

803
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,640
was cut out of them.
And so we are celebrating.

804
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,440
That's awesome.
Congratulations to him.

805
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,680
What a great cause.
Stand up to cancer.

806
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,320
So many of us have been affected
by cancer, different types in so

807
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,160
many different ways.
And this is a wonderful way to

808
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,400
support all the different causes
as far as fighting cancer.

809
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,200
Yes, Ralph, go ahead.
So I had a question for Dr.

810
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,960
because Dr. My wife went through
breast cancer froze on me.

811
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,760
And my question for you is on
the sidelines.

812
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,440
Did you struggle the way I
struggled?

813
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,880
Oh man, there were.
You're going to have to censor

814
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,520
me, so get ready.
Stand by there.

815
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,640
Were so many times during when.
After he came.

816
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,160
That I wanted to say F you
buddy.

817
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,280
It's just a natural thing.
He just got on my nerves so

818
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,960
much.
But you were in it together, you

819
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,800
know, that's what that's what we
go through.

820
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,840
And a lot of that stuff he
doesn't even remember.

821
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,720
I mean, he was talking about
stuff because of the medication

822
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:41,360
that he was given.
He was like I said that I did.

823
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,080
Really.
Yeah.

824
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,640
You did.
Oh, man.

825
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:45,920
So.
Yeah.

826
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,160
Yeah, I know.
I just, I don't know about you

827
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,960
and I don't want to take a big
leap on this, but I just felt so

828
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,360
powerless, Dr. Because, you
know, I'm a fix it guy and I

829
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,520
just wanted to fix this.
And I remember two weeks after

830
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,560
my wife had a mastectomy, you
know, I was like, I I, I want

831
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,960
you to start getting back to
normal.

832
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,480
And there was no normal.
And I don't know if you felt

833
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,800
that same thing.
I felt so powerless.

834
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,320
I felt so, yeah, lack of
control.

835
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,520
He shut me out, probably.
I don't know if he realized he

836
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,040
was doing that, but you know,
he's like, I'm the man.

837
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,880
I'm can, I can do this.
And and so that's when I kind of

838
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,640
went into OverDrive and started
thinking, you know what, I'm

839
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,480
going to make it so you can't
shut me out.

840
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,400
You're I'm going to be your go
to person.

841
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,840
You're going to be asking me
questions.

842
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,000
And that's exactly what
happened.

843
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,640
Thank you for sharing, Dr. Great
question, Ralph.

844
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,080
Appreciate it.
OK.

845
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,840
I want to keep things going
here.

846
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:49,800
So who else would like to share
about their organization?

847
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,440
I'm going to go to Tim since Tim
has joined us from the audience.

848
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,760
Tim, good morning.
Welcome back to the stage.

849
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,840
Is there a charity, a nonprofit
that you would like us to

850
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,280
support?
Oh, absolutely, Mark, thank you

851
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:10,280
so much for doing this.
Well, back in 2021, I was

852
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:15,040
diagnosed with Ms., and I've
seen a number of organizations

853
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:20,800
in my time with my diagnosis,
but the one organization that I

854
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,400
really like is the Multiple
Sclerosis Association of

855
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,960
America, MSAA.
They've provided a lot of great

856
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,960
information, a lot of great
support for me and my journey.

857
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,840
And even with Ms. I'm still, you
know, doing podcasting for the

858
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,560
federal government and for
myself and kicking butt and

859
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,840
taking names.
I won't let it keep me down.

860
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,360
I love that that's the Jonah
Berger attitude as well with

861
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,520
what he has to deal with.
And I think that is the best

862
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,800
attitude.
And Tim, I don't know that I

863
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,880
knew that.
And if I did, please forgive me.

864
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,320
I totally forgot.
So thank you for sharing a

865
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,720
little bit about your journey.
What, if I may, what's, what's

866
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:03,160
the, what would you say right
now is the biggest challenge for

867
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:08,080
you dealing with Ms. Fatigue is
the biggest challenge right now.

868
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,160
I mean, yeah, I've got twin 11
year olds, so that's even if I

869
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,840
didn't have that mess, I'd be
tired.

870
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,640
But yeah, fatigue, mental fog
hits me.

871
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,760
Sometimes I'm working on podcast
episodes for my clients.

872
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,920
Sometimes I'll be like, you know
what, we're gonna give it an

873
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,640
extra day to work on this.
You know, it's, it's a thing.

874
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,680
It's what I have.
I have it.

875
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,080
It doesn't have me.
Yep, exactly right.

876
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,160
I've said that.
I think that might even be a

877
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,160
quote in one of Jonah's books
that I've actually said that I

878
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,680
CMT yes, he has it, but he it
doesn't have him.

879
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,440
I think that's a wonderful
attitude about it, Tim, and I'm

880
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,000
so glad that you were able to
share and I appreciate that you

881
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,960
did share your journey with us.
And yeah, again, what's the

882
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,240
organization that we should
support?

883
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,000
Sure.
It's the Multiple Sclerosis

884
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:09,000
Association of America.
It's msaa.org.

885
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,240
Awesome.
We will absolutely support that

886
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:14,360
because we love supporting you,
Tim.

887
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,800
You've been such a support to
this community and to me

888
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,640
personally, so we will do
whatever we can.

889
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,360
Thank you so much, Tim for
sharing.

890
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,600
Well, first, let me say again,
podcast on dot org, what an

891
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,720
amazing organization that they
have put together here.

892
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,120
The fact that we literally have
thousands of podcasters talking

893
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,520
this week about charitable
causes, nonprofits that we all

894
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,320
want to support it, it's just
mind blowing.

895
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,280
And what a powerful thing that
they've put together.

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And yeah, it was only, I think
last year that it became a

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worldwide initiative.
I think prior to that it was

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mainly being held in Europe.
And they had just recently

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extended that to a worldwide
initiative.

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And I couldn't be more more
proud to be a part of it.

901
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So kudos to them at podcasts on
with 1 T dot org.

902
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Tomorrow we're back celebrating
our wins.

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As Dr. said, how so excited she
is for that.

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So what we do is we share our
wins from this past week and

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celebrate them together.
And nothing is too big.

906
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Nothing is too small.
It's your win and it deserves to

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be celebrated.
So bring that tomorrow.

908
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Of course, we'll be talking some
podcasting as well.

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We'll probably dig into the
mailbag a little bit and then

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we'll get into our win.
So thank you all for being a

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part of this.
Go to Podcasting Morning

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chat.com/charity to learn about
the charities you've heard today

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and some others that you that
you didn't get to hear today.

914
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Part of the team has shared some
different organizations that

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they like to support and you can
learn about that over there.

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So until tomorrow, make it a
great day.

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Everybody take care.