532. 5 Real Podcasting Challenges (And How to Handle Them)

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Ralph Estep Jr.: Well, good

morning, podcasters.

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Today is Friday, june 5, 2026
and today
we're going into the

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mail bag.
We've got five real podcasting


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questions to talk through
together: a co-host quitting


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after three years, beginner gear
on a budget, a client with


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impossible production
expectations.

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How to create
smoother podcast
transitions, and whether host

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notice flaws
that listeners
don't.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: Well, good


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morning again, everybody.
Welcome to the podcasting


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morning show.
Thank you so much for being

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here.
I am your host
today.

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Mark is traveling, so he is
going to be..

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I see he's in
the audience, so
Mark, we're glad to see you

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there.
But he'll
be doing some

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traveling today, so DR. and I
are going to hold
the fort

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down here on the live stream.
Also joining me, we've
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Janae, we've got, like I said,
DR. and BC Babbels and Sid


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Meadows, and then join us from
the audience we have Dan Schultz

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and Tide, aka Knikki.
So, thank you so much for

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joining us
today.
And before we get started here,

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I want to play this week's

submission from a spotlight, so

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we'll be talking about some

great mailbag questions today,

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but I wanted to start off with

this.

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Now, this one is from the Boomer
Bunker, and John Domingo,
who

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oftentimes joins the audience
here, and he's been on
stage

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with us a few times as well.
He sent this in to us, and


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this is what he says.
He says the Boomer Bunker is an

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unfiltered conversation show
where no topic is off the table,

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politics, culture, and
whatever news is breaking that

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day,
delivered with zero
corporate polish, its adult

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theme has
adult language from
a Boomer and Gen X perspective.

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So, let me go
ahead and play
his submission right now.

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Audio Clip: Welcome to the

Boomer Bunker Podcast, straight

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out of Jersey, where we don't

sugarcoat a damn thing, we call

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it like we see it, loud, proud

with a side of attitude,

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politics, culture, everyday

nonsense, forget about it.

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We're diving in.
If you want polite
and

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polished, go listen somewhere
else.

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But if you want
real talk,
Jersey grit and laughs, this is

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your spot.
The
Boomer Bunker Podcast,

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Jersey Tough, Boomer Bold.
Check us out
at Boomer

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bunker.com or listen wherever
you get your podcasts.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: What a great

one.

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I just hear DR: great.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Oh, it sure


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does.
Dr. and his co-host, I listened

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to his show in full

disclosure.

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His co-host, Kate, has a great..
they call it the
Duchess,

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actually.
She's got a great voice and just

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a
fantastic.. did anybody want
to make a comment about that


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spotlight submission?
Go ahead, DR. DR: Well, I think

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this is
speaking to me because
I am a boomer, and I think this

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is
going to be right up my
alley.

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I gotta, I gotta tune in now.
Is
what days does he drop?

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What does days..
So he Ralph Estep Jr.: does a

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live
stream on Monday and
Thursday evenings, and then what

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I've
noticed, he usually has
the podcast, because he does a


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podcast, it's usually released
the next day, but I think he


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goes from 630 to eight on
YouTube, Rumble, and X, I


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believe.
He said, so it's, it's pretty.

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He also has a Discord
channel,
I mean, he's got all kinds of

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stuff.
You can find him
at Boomer

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bunker.com actually.
But DR: great, Ralph Estep Jr.:

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great friend of
the program
here, John.

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So, thanks for sending us family

members.

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DR: So, it feels good to, you

know, let him shine.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: He absolutely

is.

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So, Dr. is going to read the
first question here in a second,

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but this one's emotional, and
this one's not just about


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strategy, it's actually about
losing a creative partner, and


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they've.. this particular one,
the show's getting momentum, and

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all that sort of thing.
So, without per.. without

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further
ado, Dr. if you want
to jump right into our first

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question,
then I'm going to
open it up to everybody for your

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comments,
questions, concerns,
and what we can do to help this

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person.
DR: Right, so this writer


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writes, we are coming up on our
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show, and we are finally
starting to grow.

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We are with a
great network,
we've been getting some great

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fans doing
fun collaborations
with other shows like Live Laugh

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Larceny.

We are even participating in a

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live event this week, but this

last weekend my co-host said

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that she needs to step away.

I've kind of wondered if this

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was coming for a while, and I

understand, and I'm respectful

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of her decision.
But it still
sucks.

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I'm struggling with the decision
to keep the podcast
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trying to find a new co-host or
pivot into something
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new.
I'm wondering who has had

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something similar
happen, and
what did you do?

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This is a tough one.
Ralph Estep Jr.: This is a tough

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one.
And when I saw this, I was like,

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and this is a really tough

question.

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And so let me ask, let me ask
the room this.

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Let's get
started with this
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You know, who here has had a

co-host, producer, editor, or

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creative partner lead?
Does
anybody want to comment

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about that?
I've not experienced this,
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for me this one is sort of
outside my normal area of things

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that I've done before, but I
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doesn't happen sometimes.
Does anybody want to chime in?

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If you
want to chime in, go
ahead, go ahead, BC.

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I see you wanted to
make a
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BC Babbles: Yeah, good morning,
everyone.

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I'm curious, did they mention
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has been there since the very
beginning, or has she been
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recent addition?
I'm wondering if that might be a

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caveat to
help him decide one
way or the other.

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DR: It doesn't say in all, it

says is that they have started

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to gain some traction, a lot of
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feels like they're established
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Ralph Estep Jr.: See, that would

be my suspicion, is they

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probably started this together,
reading that into the question.

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BC Babbles: Gotcha.
So, yeah, so
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for sure, if he's worried that
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relationship, and those numbers,
if she goes away,
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numbers will drop.
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sabbatical
opportunity.
Honestly, Ralph Estep Jr.:

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that's a very
good point.
BC, when you're in that

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position, I just.. the
thing
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sabbatical is if you're
in a
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momentum, that's an audience

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If I think, if you stop creating

content, you stop putting

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stuff out there that might
actually,
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against you, because from what
I've seen is
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accustomed to you being there
right there, they're
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the day that you come out
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things, like right now, I can
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actually thought about going
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and
my big concern with that
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sparkling voice, right?
You've DR: trained, you've

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trained your
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So, I don't know if BC Babbles:
the timeline will be
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What about repurposing the older
content with her, like
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the beginning of the show until
she comes back, assuming
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her stepping away is numb to
law, DR: there's nothing in this

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question about her coming
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The other part of
it is also
something to Sid Meadows: add to

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this.
By the
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go ahead, Sid.

Sorry, go ahead, Sid.

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Sid Meadows: Sorry, I raised my
pepper a couple of times, but

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Ralph Estep Jr.: here's what I

would like to see.

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Here's what I'd like to suggest
for
everybody, because I think

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this is easier.
If you'd like to make
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comment, can you put a one in
the chat?

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That would be really
helpful.
Yeah, and that way I'll know to

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go back to them.
But go
ahead, Sid.

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I'm sorry I didn't see that.
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When Janet had raised his pet
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I think is it sucks to lose
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partnering with and doing
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what I would encourage this
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this person, if you love
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the content, then I would make
a pivot, I would make a pivot, I

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would not lose the momentum
that you either you can turn it

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into
a solo show, or you could
search for a new host.

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I know doing a
solo show is
not easy, but the other thing

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that you might do is
bring on
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episode.
Go into your
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go into your audience, and tap
them and say,
hey, so and so

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has left the show, and I'm going
to be the
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I'm going to be having guest
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the show.
If you love this show, if you

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love
producing, and I would
try to figure out a way to keep

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doing
it, but I'll encourage
you to take time to grieve the

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loss of
this.
Right, you got to, you just kind

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of let this process
that a
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left, so take a moment
just to
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about this, but don't
stay
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Ralph Estep Jr.: Let me ask you
a follow-up question.

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Sid, so one of the things I had
my notes
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want to do a goodbye episode if
the co-host
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And do you, how do you handle
this with the
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used to hearing two voices and
there's a
chemistry there?

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Sid Meadows: I think that's a

brilliant idea to do a, you

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know, we're making a change,

we're making a change.

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Let's, yeah, let somebody know
that
they're this person is

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leaving the show, and give that
person
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say goodbye, and why, if they
want
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the show.
And then that also allows
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that same conversation allows
the host to pin it to
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it is they're going to do next,
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And that's a
brilliant idea to
have a goodbye episode or

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farewell to co-hosts
or
something to that effect.

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I love.. well, thank you, Sid.
Go
ahead, Janae.

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I'm sorry again, I didn't see
you speak up.

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Go
ahead, Janine.
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Already took what I was gonna
say, so you know it's been built

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momentum.
They haven't got a huge

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community going.
I mean,
just look at our

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community, right?
How has it grown?

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How has
new people like you've
come in, and you know you've

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helped
support keep going this
the podcast morning show, so the

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same thing they can do,
because Ralph Estep Jr.: else

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want to
comment before I have
Dr. move on to our next

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question?
I just
wanted to say one thing

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here.
I, again, we've gone through

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this
process of, hey, we've
got Mark this is my take on

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this, and I
think you don't
kill a three out for a week,

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who's gonna fill
in, and we
did this last year low when he

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was on vacation, so
that's
something that we can tell him,

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like, hey, here's
something
that's already worked for us,

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you could try it out.
In
fact, a friend of mine, who

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was part of this community where

they did scrapbooking, she was

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in five years, and then the own,

the original person wanted to

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let go of it, so one of the

person within the community,

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like, you know, I'll take over

and run the whole community, and

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now she's passing it out to

another community member,

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keeping that community going, so

that's the same thing that she

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can do if she's really, really

passionate about podcasting.

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That's a great idea, Jenny.

Great idea.

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Now I want to go to Dan.
Dan, go ahead.

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You have
some comments to
make.

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year show immediately, but you

also can't pretend nothing

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happened.
Either, you got to
respect the

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departure, and then test the
next version, and then
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what you want to do.
That's one of the emotional


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sides of podcasting, you know.
That's a tough thing.

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But let's
go ahead, Dr. We're
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question of
the day, and this
question comes to us beginners

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looking to get
started with
gear.

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So, Dr. Flag is yours, my
friend, and just in
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disclosure, Dr, and I were on
camera together, but Dr is


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having some camera issues, so
just me on the camera today, so

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you're welcome to join us live,
you, yeah, I sent a link to


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those folks, but anyway, go
ahead, DR. DR: Okay, so a friend

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and I are
looking to co-host
our show, and we have no idea on

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what we need
for setup.
We have a space to record.

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We have our idea now.
We
just need to get our gear

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together.
It's worth noting that
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indeed on a budget.
I've heard a lot of good things

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about
Samsung Q as a
budget-friendly option, but I

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want some other
opinions
before committing to anything.

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We're looking for a
good
tabletop mic that we can put

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between us on a table that

will pick us both up clearly.

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Also, recommendations for

recording editing software,

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preferably free, would be

awesome, as I have little

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experience there, Ralph Estep
Jr.: yeah, I don't
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anybody else.
When I read through that, and

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they said
they're going to put
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both going to
share, I sort of
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said, yeah,
that's going to
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What does everyone
else think
about that particular issue?

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What do you think, DR. DR: Well,
definitely for the
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stuff.
Where free Audacity is great,

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and you know
they're coming
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end of the
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So check Audacity out.
As for the
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I really don't have a whole lot
of
experience with my clients

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being in the same room with who
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whole mic bleed thing.
I am not,
I don't have a lot

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of experience with Mike Bleed.
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picturing a blue Yeti, though,
in the middle of this room.

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I'm
just saying, like, I'm
being honest, like I'm picturing

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this
Blue Yeti on a Junaid:
Blue Yeti.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: Aren't you

thinking the same thing, Janae?

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I'm thinking Yeti in the middle
of the table, and the poor

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person that's trying to edit

this, and they're going to do it

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themselves.
It is going to be a
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and I mean that in a positive
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I want them to get
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but I didn't mean to interrupt

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your train of thought,
Dr. But
that's just that's where my mind

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went.
DR: That's where my mind went as

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well.
So, please don't buy just one

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number one, they are very,

very reasonable, especially on

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the holidays, is coming up, so

there's always going to be

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discounts around the holiday, so

please keep that in mind.

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And don't, what do you think
about
the lavaliers?

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Ralph Estep Jr.: Well, you know,

I've tried them out myself,

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and the problem is, and I'm not
an
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they sound as great to me.
They sound
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I want to go to BC here in a
second, because he won
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comment, but to me, I've tried
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it's the size of the diaphragm,
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It just doesn't give you that
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We're
going to go to BC now,
and then Junaid, I've got you up

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on deck
after that.
Go ahead, BC.

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BC Babbles: Yeah, I agree,

unless you're gonna put a whole

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windscreen pop filter, and maybe

even an isolator on a Yeti

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microphone, it's still gonna be
too sensitive.

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I think they want to consider
the room that they
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It sounds like they at least
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Listen to the ambient noise.
Do you want to get sound panels

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for
the walls?
Do something, get a carpet under

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the table, try to
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possible before looking
into
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hate to suggest this, because

I know we're kind of, we're not

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anti yeti on here, but we're not

pro pro yeti on here either.

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So I would say I've seen a lot
of
good feedback for some,

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don't tell me, TikTok
microphones that
are on the

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TikTok shop, like toner
microphones or fine


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microphones that are supposed to
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for tabletop, and they're a lot
more affordable than even like a

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Rogue Pod mic, which is like
99 bucks.

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Some of these on TikTok
are
like 55 plus, so they're on a

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budget, might be an option,

and then they might even want to

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consider learning how to do

noise reduction on something

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like Adobe Audition, just have a

bit more control earlier on

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before they upgrade to either

hiring a producer or getting out

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to Riverside, just to help them
to have a bit more manual

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quality manipulation.
Those are
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Ralph Estep Jr.: I want to go to

Junaid and Dan, but first we

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have a comment in the live

stream.

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This is from Livestream
Consultant.

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It says the short
answer is,
do not do it.

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Using a shareable mic is fine in
a
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but in a live streaming
podcasting
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individual mics.
They can be from $40 and up.

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And
thank you for making that
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I think that is a very
valid
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acknowledge them in the
live
stream, because we got a few

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people over there joining
us.
But go ahead, Janae, you're up

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next.
Junaid: As the resident home


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studio architect, I would
recommend that they do not buy


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any gear at all.
So, what I would recommend is

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grab their
phones and record
an episode or two, and see what

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that
experience feels like,
because that's going to give

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them a lot
of things.
It's almost like you're telling

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somebody to go
buy running
shoes, and they haven't even

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stepped outside
yet, right?
So you want to make sure that

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you're testing these
things.
What BC mentioned, you know,

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check the room sound.
Do
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that room?
Treat them with curtains
with

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rugs and whatnot.
Is this an audio only podcast,

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or are
they also going to do
video?

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So, think about those things
before
you even step into it.

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Thinking about buying a
microphone just
because you're

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doing a podcast, I think, is the
wrong direction
to even get

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started with, so I know as a
podcaster I'm totally
saying

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things, my what?
No microphone, no, because we

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all
have microphones in our
pockets, in our phones start

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using that
one, because that's
going to get you on a path of,

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hey, what do
we even sound
like, and how is the

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conversation flowing right

once you have that step that

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down, and you don't have to

publish that right.

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We're just testing test
episodes, and then
go through

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the different software that are
available.


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Audacity is great.
I've never used it, and there's

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other
software that you can
use.

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Again, there's so much good

stuff.

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Out there, even if they had a
subscription to Adobe
Podcast,

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that's going to help clean out
all of that junk that
might

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microphone, because that


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software is getting so good.
So, I would say, experiment,


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experiment, experiment, publish.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Thank you,


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Junaid.
Those are very solid comments.

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Go ahead, Dan, you're
up next.
Dan: Real quick, Janae just made

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a ton of points.
Everyone has AI software that

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can clean up the
voice now.
What we've done multiple times,

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we do a travel
show, and we
have to travel a lot and be in

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the same hotel
room, and we
just use a Zoom, I think they're

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called handies,
depending how
much your budget is, like the h1

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through the h5
or whatever,
they're basically interfaces

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that you plug in
between, you
put them right between you.

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They have two
directional
mics, one facing you, one facing

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the other
person.
The microphones are right next

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to each other, but
they do a
really good job with separation.

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The other thing that
is really
neat, you just put sound cards

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in and you actually
record
both tracks at the same time, so

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you, in effect, you
have two
microphones, but one unit.

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Hey, Dan, smart.
Yeah, Ralph Estep Jr.: Dan, can

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I
interrupt you for one
second?

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Can you bring your level up a

little bit, because everybody's

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saying your level is pretty low?
Dan: Yeah, probably.

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I don't
know.
Let me see here.

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Ralph Estep Jr.: I noticed it

too, but I thought it was just

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me.
Dan: Does that help?

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Ralph Estep Jr.: Not really.
If
you can bring it up a

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little bit more, just..
I know it's going
to sound

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funny, but I can't do it from
this end.

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It seems like
it's coming from
your side.

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Dan: Okay, my input level is

jacked all the way up here.

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That's weird.
It sounds like
he's way away

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from his mic.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Yeah, it does


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sound like that.
But Dan: oh, hold on a second.


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Another thing you can do is like
make sure you're on the right


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microphone.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Oh, see, this


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is a great time to talk about
this, right, Dan.

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Dan: Yes, don't number one,

don't listen to me when it

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comes.
If we're talking about


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microphones, don't listen to me.
So everything I just said.

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No,
um, yeah, I don't know.
Uh, club deck just switched my

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microphone
for some reason.
I was on my headphone

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microphone.
Is this
better now?

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Ralph Estep Jr.: It sounds a

little bit better.

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Go ahead, Dan.
I didn't mean to interrupt.


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I just want everybody to be able
to hear what you're saying.

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Dan: Yeah, so there's Zoom handy

recorders, h h, and h,

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whatever your budget can take.
It's good
for a couple

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reasons, like I said, there are
two microphones
on this one

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unit, you can plug it in, put it
right on the
table, and you

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know, in the middle of you, they
do a pretty
decent job of

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separating, but the cool thing
is that you're
also recording

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via track, so you're going to
have, like, you
put a SD card

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in, and everyone's going to be
on their own track,
which is

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obviously going to help you with
everything, because
everyone

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will be on their own track.
There's still going to be
a

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little bit of mic bleed, but if
you have the SD file, you're


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the card, you can go in and deal
with it, and I was just saying


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that Janae is totally right
about everyone can basically


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have AI software that can, you
can take a crappy mic and turn


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it into something pretty decent.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Well, thank


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you, Dan.
I know Dr. has a comment she'd

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like to make.
DR: Yeah, so when it comes to


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the Adobe Voice Enhance, please
pay for that one.

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Don't go for
the cheap, don't
go for the free one, because

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it's level, leveled
up all the
way to 100 and that's not ideal.

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If you can pay, I
think it's
like $115 or something like

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that, but it
comes out to be a
little less, I'm sorry, a little

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more than $8
a month, and it
is so worth it.

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You can adjust the levels when

you pay for it.

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You can adjust all the levels,
and it really
makes a big, big

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difference.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Did you say


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that was called again?
I'm sorry, I missed that.

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DR: I think that's Adobe

Enhance, Adobe Enhance.

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Okay, and if you pay for that,
you
also have access to Adobe

426
00:23:43,721 --> 00:23:47,780
Studio as well, so you can,
that's
your, you know, that'll

427
00:23:47,780 --> 00:23:52,049
be your editing station as well,
and
also you didn't ask for

428
00:23:52,049 --> 00:23:56,300
this, but you did mention that
you and
your friend are

429
00:23:56,300 --> 00:24:00,947
thinking about doing this
podcast together, so
I always

430
00:24:00,947 --> 00:24:05,687
say, please, please, please have
an agreement, a
written

431
00:24:05,687 --> 00:24:08,018
agreement between the two of
you.

432
00:24:08,018 --> 00:24:10,625
You know what
happens if one
of you gets sick?

433
00:24:10,625 --> 00:24:12,425
What happens if you get in a

fight?

434
00:24:12,425 --> 00:24:14,996
What happened?
You know who does this belong

435
00:24:14,996 --> 00:24:17,081
to?
Who's
responsible for doing

436
00:24:17,081 --> 00:24:18,983
what?
So please have something written

437
00:24:18,983 --> 00:24:21,475

between the two of you.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Very valid


438
00:24:21,483 --> 00:24:22,421
point.
Well, let's go ahead.

439
00:24:22,421 --> 00:24:23,936
If does anybody else want to

comment on this?

440
00:24:23,936 --> 00:24:27,749
If not, we've got three more
questions, and
let's go on to

441
00:24:27,749 --> 00:24:31,128
the next question.
DR. So, if you want to
go to a

442
00:24:31,128 --> 00:24:33,188
question three, this one is
really interesting.

443
00:24:33,188 --> 00:24:35,846
They want
to tease yesterday
about hand signals.

444
00:24:35,846 --> 00:24:40,315
So, go ahead, DR. DR: Yep, it
says I just got back
from

445
00:24:40,315 --> 00:24:43,980
witnessing and being a part of
the most unhinged podcast


446
00:24:43,988 --> 00:24:49,012
editing session in my life, and
I need to know if I'm losing my

447
00:24:49,012 --> 00:24:53,016
mind or if this is actually as
insane as it feels.

448
00:24:53,016 --> 00:24:57,500
So, here's
the setup: small
room, multiple cameras, guest

449
00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:02,919
host, co-host,
plus.
A center wide, I'm not sure what

450
00:25:02,919 --> 00:25:06,600
a center wide is.

Okay, cramped table, host's wife

451
00:25:06,810 --> 00:25:11,274
also sitting there, no space to
reposition anything.

452
00:25:11,274 --> 00:25:15,672
The client is extremely
specific, wants a
perfectly

453
00:25:15,672 --> 00:25:20,930
clean show, no ums, no pauses,
natural conversation
flow,

454
00:25:20,930 --> 00:25:27,680
they, they sat next to the
editor for two hours, critiquing

455
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,660

every single word, sentence,
and transition live.

456
00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:36,158
The moment that
broke me, this
is the writer saying, the moment

457
00:25:36,158 --> 00:25:39,770
that broke
me, the guest uses
his hands when he talks.

458
00:25:39,770 --> 00:25:44,089
At one point his
hand briefly
covered part of his face.

459
00:25:44,089 --> 00:25:48,070
I didn't flag it as a

distraction, because it's a

460
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,924
human being gesturing naturally.



461
00:25:49,932 --> 00:25:55,084
The client pulled me aside and
said I should have stopped that

462
00:25:55,084 --> 00:25:58,122
live recording, interrupted the
conversation, and told the guest

463
00:25:58,122 --> 00:26:02,592

to use his left hand instead
of his right, that way the hand

464
00:26:02,592 --> 00:26:06,732
wouldn't block his face.
I asked, How is he supposed to


465
00:26:06,740 --> 00:26:09,849
know that?
Their answer, that's your job to

466
00:26:09,849 --> 00:26:13,020
catch and correct.

Oh my god, this client sounds

467
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:16,658
like a client for Bill.
That's
your job to catch the

468
00:26:16,658 --> 00:26:19,722
correct catch and correct in the
moment.


469
00:26:19,730 --> 00:26:23,590
Now, the kicker, Caleb, and I
guess that's the editor, Caleb,

470
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:27,980
and I agree that the only real
fix is moving the cameras, but


471
00:26:27,988 --> 00:26:31,940
the room is too small.
We suggested alternatives like


472
00:26:31,948 --> 00:26:36,785
higher tripods, digital crops,
losing the dedicated guest cam.

473
00:26:36,785 --> 00:26:39,050

Client shot down every single

474
00:26:39,050 --> 00:26:44,080
one because they're very

specific about their shots, so

475
00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:48,040
instead of accepting physics,

they blame me for not

476
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,292
babysitting to guess

hand-handedness.

477
00:26:50,292 --> 00:26:53,998
Am I crazy for thinking this is
insane?

478
00:26:53,998 --> 00:26:59,304
And it
goes, have you ever had
a client this deep in the

479
00:26:59,304 --> 00:27:03,170
perfectionism
rabbit hole.
How do you handle it without

480
00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:06,010
getting fired?
And
seriously, do I need a

481
00:27:06,010 --> 00:27:10,610
left hand only cost in my next
contract,
or should I just

482
00:27:10,610 --> 00:27:11,970
run?
I say run.

483
00:27:12,570 --> 00:27:14,158
Ralph Estep Jr.: Let's go ahead
and go to Sid, he was first,

484
00:27:14,158 --> 00:27:16,653
and we'll go to BC and Janae.
But go
ahead, Sid.

485
00:27:16,653 --> 00:27:19,293
Yeah, Sid Meadows: this is a
very
interesting listening to

486
00:27:19,293 --> 00:27:21,700
this.
My first reaction, you know,


487
00:27:21,708 --> 00:27:25,590
somebody who runs a business,
not every client is the right


488
00:27:25,598 --> 00:27:28,535
client for you.
Based on everything that I've

489
00:27:28,535 --> 00:27:31,394
heard,
without knowing all the
situation, I would fire the


490
00:27:31,402 --> 00:27:33,577
client.
This is not, this does not sound

491
00:27:33,577 --> 00:27:35,810
like a client I would
want to
work with, and their

492
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,660
expectations exceed what's

possible, and it's time to say

493
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:43,390
this client's not worth it.

Let's go find three more to

494
00:27:43,420 --> 00:27:45,760
replace this income.
So, I would
fire the client.

495
00:27:46,390 --> 00:27:48,609
Ralph Estep Jr.: I think that is

what kind of sounds like DR:

496
00:27:48,609 --> 00:27:52,239
they've never worked with
any
kind of editing, any kind of

497
00:27:52,419 --> 00:27:55,104
situation like this.
That's what
it sounds like,

498
00:27:55,104 --> 00:27:57,069
that the clients are new to this
as well.

499
00:27:57,730 --> 00:27:59,110
Ralph Estep Jr.: It does sound

that way, but I think that's

500
00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:01,452
very valid points.
It even in my
practice, I've

501
00:28:01,452 --> 00:28:03,255
had to fire clients that I just
did.

502
00:28:03,255 --> 00:28:05,220
We
didn't get along, and it's
okay to do that.

503
00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:06,415
But let's go ahead.

Thank you.

504
00:28:06,415 --> 00:28:09,882
Sid, by the way, go ahead.
BC, I know you have a
comment

505
00:28:09,882 --> 00:28:11,220
about claustrophobia too.
I see here.

506
00:28:12,060 --> 00:28:14,286
BC Babbles: Gee, yeah.
Listen to
the description of a

507
00:28:14,286 --> 00:28:15,976
very tight space.
My claustrophobia was


508
00:28:15,984 --> 00:28:18,520
definitely being triggered by
the story set up there.

509
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,975
I want
to know if this person
- it sounds like they didn't do

510
00:28:21,975 --> 00:28:25,605
a
discovery call with the
person, or if they did, this

511
00:28:25,605 --> 00:28:29,268
client had
a great facade
during the discovery call,

512
00:28:29,268 --> 00:28:32,486
because I wish I
would, this
person would have gotten some

513
00:28:32,486 --> 00:28:36,116
kind of hint of this
create
crate well before having to

514
00:28:36,116 --> 00:28:39,170
enter that that space with

that very cramped, cramped space

515
00:28:39,770 --> 00:28:42,462
with these people.
Also, I also
had to wonder,

516
00:28:42,462 --> 00:28:47,086
with the specificities that they
had, is
the host's wife like a

517
00:28:47,086 --> 00:28:51,460
former set manager on, like, a

television set, and they're

518
00:28:51,550 --> 00:28:53,350
trying to, like, relive the good

old days, because they were

519
00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:55,690
fired, like all these

specificities with, like, the

520
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,240
left hand, not the right hand,

you know, covering their mouth

521
00:28:58,330 --> 00:29:01,980
thing, it's like it almost seems

like they kind of know what

522
00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:04,230
they're talking about, but

again, the demand is just way

523
00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:07,470
beyond what the scope of this

project looks like.

524
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,168
Ralph Estep Jr.: Very good

point.

525
00:29:09,168 --> 00:29:11,452
BC, I want to go to Janae, and
then Nikki has a
question as

526
00:29:11,452 --> 00:29:12,360
well.
But go ahead, Janae.

527
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,830
Junaid: I think the main wide

camera is just capturing both of

528
00:29:16,860 --> 00:29:19,830
the people speaking on there,

and they have two additional

529
00:29:19,890 --> 00:29:23,690
cameras, so it's like a three

camera setup recording sounds

530
00:29:23,780 --> 00:29:27,920
like, and what it means is that
the hand gesture, blah blah

531
00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:31,340
blah, I think he's better huff

firing this client, like that

532
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:36,920
said, because if the editor or

the client has so many comments

533
00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:40,599
about editing, maybe they should

be editing the episode, I

534
00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:43,350
mean, why did they even hire an
expert, right?

535
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:47,360
And that's what I say when I'm
working with
clients, like,

536
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,850
hey, if you have so many
requests, why don't you
do it?

537
00:29:51,850 --> 00:29:54,830
Because I've been doing it for
ages, but maybe you could
do

538
00:29:54,830 --> 00:29:57,488
it better than I can.
Ralph Estep Jr.: I think that's

539
00:29:57,488 --> 00:29:59,384
a brilliant point, man.
I have that in my accounting

540
00:29:59,384 --> 00:30:01,354
practice
sometimes.
People will say, hey, let me

541
00:30:01,354 --> 00:30:03,640
take a look at what you
did.
I'm like, well, you hired me to

542
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,590
be the professional, so I

think that's very good advice,

543
00:30:06,590 --> 00:30:08,942
but very good point.
Knikki,
excuse me, Ty

544
00:30:08,942 --> 00:30:10,362
Tutoring, aka Knikki, you're on
deck.

545
00:30:10,362 --> 00:30:12,440
Go ahead
and let us know what
you're thinking.

546
00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:14,286
Knikki: Thank you, guys,

appreciate it.

547
00:30:14,286 --> 00:30:16,758
I was, I had an interesting
experience last
night.

548
00:30:16,758 --> 00:30:20,995
I've had a really good podcast
cast of people that have
come

549
00:30:20,995 --> 00:30:25,326
on my show and shared some
amazing insights, and I've


550
00:30:25,334 --> 00:30:28,820
always done the pre-interview,
like you guys have suggested.

551
00:30:28,820 --> 00:30:32,134
I
thought that was a great way
to vet people, and sometimes

552
00:30:32,134 --> 00:30:35,414
every
once in a while, always
catch myself kicking myself,

553
00:30:35,414 --> 00:30:38,560
because
every once in a while
my intuition will ping, and

554
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,264
it'll
say, do not put this
person, this person on your

555
00:30:42,264 --> 00:30:45,606
show, and
I'll be like, okay.
And sometimes I'll dismiss it,

556
00:30:45,606 --> 00:30:49,264
and
sometimes I won't, but I
always have to stick to my guns.

557
00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:53,317
I have
to, I know that now.
So, anyway, I had this lady on

558
00:30:53,317 --> 00:30:57,016
my show last
night, and thank
God it's not live, it's all

559
00:30:57,016 --> 00:31:00,790
pre-recorded.

Well, she was a mindset coach, a

560
00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:04,740
personal growth coach, life

coach type, type thing, and I

561
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:07,500
started asking her some

questions, and it was pretty

562
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,610
evident about 15 minutes into

the conversation that she didn't

563
00:31:11,850 --> 00:31:16,830
actually have any level of

expertise, and so I knew that

564
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,753
from the pre-interview I could

feel that I could sense it.

565
00:31:19,753 --> 00:31:22,436
I said, "Well, maybe, you know,
I
doubted myself.

566
00:31:22,436 --> 00:31:26,480
Well, it was, it was obvious
once the show was
filming and

567
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,564
recording, so I started asking
her some
questions, easier

568
00:31:29,564 --> 00:31:32,378
questions to try to help her get
into a
rhythm, you know, where

569
00:31:32,378 --> 00:31:35,418
she could talk about some things

that she did know about.

570
00:31:35,418 --> 00:31:39,194
Well, anyway, she, about
probably 25
minutes in, she

571
00:31:39,194 --> 00:31:42,386
just stopped mid-interview, like
completely
stopped, and she

572
00:31:42,386 --> 00:31:45,967
says I have to go, and I was
like, okay.

573
00:31:45,967 --> 00:31:49,246
And
then she left Zoom, and
then that was it.

574
00:31:49,246 --> 00:31:52,166
And I was sort of
bum puzzled
in a way.

575
00:31:52,166 --> 00:31:53,554
I've never had that happen
before.

576
00:31:53,554 --> 00:31:55,750
I was
wondering if anybody in
this space have ever has ever

577
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:57,852
had
that happen.
I know some of you guys bring

578
00:31:57,852 --> 00:32:00,375
guests on.
Have you
ever had a situation

579
00:32:00,375 --> 00:32:02,910
where somebody comes on your
show,
they say there's

580
00:32:02,910 --> 00:32:06,075
something, but they're not, and
then you find
out, like mid

581
00:32:06,075 --> 00:32:08,620
show, that they're not who they
said they were, and
then they

582
00:32:08,620 --> 00:32:10,920
just want to pat out on you.
I thought it was
interesting.

583
00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:12,152
Ralph Estep Jr.: What a great

story.

584
00:32:12,152 --> 00:32:13,353
Sid, I'm gonna go to in a
second.

585
00:32:13,353 --> 00:32:16,758
I actually had a
situation
where I was on someone else's

586
00:32:16,758 --> 00:32:19,620
show, they were hosting
it,
and they apparently were

587
00:32:19,710 --> 00:32:23,330
recording the video from a

library, and I guess they had

588
00:32:23,660 --> 00:32:26,167
used this room well.
About
halfway into the

589
00:32:26,167 --> 00:32:28,679
interview, somebody knocks on
the door and
says, 'You got to

590
00:32:28,679 --> 00:32:31,010
get out of here, your time is
spent.

591
00:32:31,010 --> 00:32:34,000
Not
exactly the same
situation, Nikki, but I feel for

592
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,240
you.

That's a tough situation to be

593
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:37,225
in.
And I guess my clean
takeaway

594
00:32:37,225 --> 00:32:39,796
from that is, I guess, trust
your intuition next time,
and

595
00:32:39,796 --> 00:32:42,328
just be like, I don't think this
is going to work, but go


596
00:32:42,336 --> 00:32:44,194
ahead, Sid.
I see you wanted to have a

597
00:32:44,194 --> 00:32:47,265
comment on that.
Sid Meadows: Yeah, maybe for


598
00:32:47,273 --> 00:32:49,253
you.
Yeah, I've never actually had

599
00:32:49,253 --> 00:32:52,800
that exact situation happen,

but it, you know, sounds like it

600
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,234
was a blessing, right?
That she
abruptly ended the

601
00:32:57,234 --> 00:33:01,203
show, so now you really don't
feel like you
have to publish

602
00:33:01,203 --> 00:33:05,310
it, but what has happened to me
is I have a pre
call with

603
00:33:05,310 --> 00:33:07,524
somebody and their energy is
really good, they're
exciting,

604
00:33:07,524 --> 00:33:10,407
they're just sharing a lot of
value in the pre call,
and we

605
00:33:10,407 --> 00:33:14,060
get really a different person
shows up, I'm like, where
are

606
00:33:14,060 --> 00:33:16,991
you, where's the person that I
did the pre call with, where's


607
00:33:16,999 --> 00:33:17,889
your energy, where's your
excitement moment?

608
00:33:17,889 --> 00:33:21,057
That's
happened to me a couple
of times, and that's so

609
00:33:21,057 --> 00:33:24,991
frustrating
because you person
that's who's going to show up

610
00:33:24,991 --> 00:33:28,074
and then they
don't and then I
had somebody that he just

611
00:33:28,074 --> 00:33:31,672
couldn't stop
talking, he did
not do that in the pre call and

612
00:33:31,672 --> 00:33:34,977
he took a
question, took him
seven minutes to answer the

613
00:33:34,977 --> 00:33:36,832
question, I
finally
interrupted him and I said,

614
00:33:36,832 --> 00:33:40,281
"Hey, my audience expects
us
to have a conversation and you

615
00:33:40,281 --> 00:33:43,050
took seven minutes to answer

that question, and I need us to

616
00:33:43,050 --> 00:33:45,920
be able to go back and forth.

So, let's take a deep breath.

617
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,660
I know you're nervous, I know

you're kind of excited about

618
00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:52,260
what the potential impact to you

can be for your business, but

619
00:33:52,260 --> 00:33:54,030
let's take a deep breath and

let's just have a conversation.

620
00:33:54,075 --> 00:33:58,515
So, I think the messaging there
is there's likely always going

621
00:33:58,515 --> 00:34:01,057
to be guest-related issues come
up, you know.

622
00:34:01,057 --> 00:34:03,555
I don't think we can avoid it
now.

623
00:34:03,555 --> 00:34:04,497
Ralph Estep Jr.: Thank you, Sid.



624
00:34:04,505 --> 00:34:06,185
I want to mention what Julie put
in the chat.

625
00:34:06,185 --> 00:34:08,489
She said you should
play the
episode and add your own

626
00:34:08,489 --> 00:34:10,215
commentary.
It would be
fascinating.

627
00:34:10,215 --> 00:34:13,315
Yeah, that would be fascinating.
I'm not sure how
the guests

628
00:34:13,315 --> 00:34:16,509
would like that to play out, but
does anybody else
want to make

629
00:34:16,509 --> 00:34:18,656
a comment?
If not, we're going to go ahead

630
00:34:18,656 --> 00:34:20,286
and move
on to our next
question.

631
00:34:20,286 --> 00:34:23,060
Well, go ahead, DR Let's move on
to
our next question.

632
00:34:23,060 --> 00:34:28,550
This one is about transitions.
DR: Yeah, so it says I'm at a


633
00:34:28,558 --> 00:34:32,525
stage where I've edited my
audio, but it's lacking a nice


634
00:34:32,534 --> 00:34:36,047
transition because it jumps
straight into talking


635
00:34:36,056 --> 00:34:39,885
introduction.
I have a pre-recorded intro and

636
00:34:39,885 --> 00:34:44,315
outro,
which will remain
consistent, but it's just not

637
00:34:44,315 --> 00:34:47,185
enough.
When I
listen to the edited

638
00:34:47,185 --> 00:34:50,969
episode, the obvious answer
would be a
few seconds of

639
00:34:50,969 --> 00:34:55,065
intro and outro music, but I'm
open to other
ideas, as it's

640
00:34:55,065 --> 00:34:58,020
been extremely difficult for me
to find music
that I don't

641
00:34:58,020 --> 00:35:00,595
have to pay for.
I want to comment on.

642
00:35:00,595 --> 00:35:04,304
That, by the
way, that fits
the rhythm of my speech.

643
00:35:04,304 --> 00:35:08,014
Any ideas are welcome on
the
below topics.

644
00:35:08,014 --> 00:35:12,156
Number one, finding music that
fits, like
the vibe, the speed

645
00:35:12,156 --> 00:35:15,198
of speech, etc.
Number two, finding music
that

646
00:35:15,198 --> 00:35:19,795
you don't have to pay for.
Podcast is a hobby, and I'm not

647
00:35:19,795 --> 00:35:23,530
making money from it, number
three alternative transitions


648
00:35:23,538 --> 00:35:30,210
that don't involve music.
Well, you know, Audio Jungle is

649
00:35:30,210 --> 00:35:35,421
a
fantastic platform.
You can set the, the amount of

650
00:35:35,421 --> 00:35:40,245
money that
you want to pay.
It could be $5 it could be $2

651
00:35:40,245 --> 00:35:44,121
You can set the
amount, you
can set the rhythm that you

652
00:35:44,121 --> 00:35:46,661
want, like the count,
the beat
count.

653
00:35:46,661 --> 00:35:50,473
There's.. it's an amazing that
you can get
very, very

654
00:35:50,473 --> 00:35:55,515
specific for very little money.
So that is my
suggestion.

655
00:35:55,515 --> 00:35:59,862
Audio Jungle, and yeah, Ralph
Estep Jr.: is that a


656
00:35:59,870 --> 00:36:01,574
subscription platform?
DR. DR: It is not.

657
00:36:01,574 --> 00:36:03,560
It is not.
I
don't have a subscription to

658
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,265
it, and I go to it whenever I
need
to, but again, it's, you

659
00:36:08,265 --> 00:36:12,737
know, you pay one time for, you
know,
a little jingle here and

660
00:36:12,737 --> 00:36:14,459
there.
So, okay, s Ralph Estep Jr.: o

661
00:36:14,459 --> 00:36:16,407
it's like a
la carte thing,
you pay for the jingle that you

662
00:36:16,407 --> 00:36:17,715
want to use, and
then you move
on.

663
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:20,770
DR: Yeah, yeah, and you can set
the amount that you want to

664
00:36:20,770 --> 00:36:26,180
pay, like a range, I want to pay

anywhere from $2 to $10 and I

665
00:36:26,330 --> 00:36:30,110
want it upbeat, and I want it.

You have all of these different

666
00:36:30,830 --> 00:36:34,220
kind of requirements that you

set, so it's.. it's a great,

667
00:36:34,490 --> 00:36:36,950
it's a great platform.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Awesome.

668
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:38,156
Go
ahead, BC.
I see you want to make a

669
00:36:38,156 --> 00:36:39,140
comment.
Then we're going
to go to Sid.

670
00:36:39,709 --> 00:36:41,799
BC Babbles: Yeah, expanding on

that too, assuming that she's

671
00:36:41,889 --> 00:36:43,307
uploading her content to

YouTube.

672
00:36:43,307 --> 00:36:46,779
YouTube Studio has an entire
audio library with where
you

673
00:36:46,779 --> 00:36:51,564
can section things up by mood,
genre, length, words in
the

674
00:36:51,564 --> 00:36:56,224
title, so lots of options there.
I would say don't just
put a

675
00:36:56,224 --> 00:36:59,638
few seconds of music for
transition and add a whole music

676
00:36:59,638 --> 00:37:03,009

bed to the opener and learn
the beauty of an L cut.

677
00:37:03,009 --> 00:37:06,287
Learn the
beauty of L cuts and
J cuts, and it'll really amplify

678
00:37:06,287 --> 00:37:09,703
the quality
of your show.
And let's see, she's even

679
00:37:09,703 --> 00:37:11,117
using..
I don't know
what's.. if she

680
00:37:11,117 --> 00:37:13,691
mentioned what she's using for
production, but
if she happens

681
00:37:13,691 --> 00:37:17,834
to be using, say, was a Capcut.
Capcut also comes
with its own

682
00:37:17,834 --> 00:37:21,178
audio library, and most of these
things, like with
Audio

683
00:37:21,178 --> 00:37:24,277
Jungle, don't require
attribution, you just plop it


684
00:37:24,285 --> 00:37:26,659
on, you add that magic, and
you're good to go.

685
00:37:27,590 --> 00:37:30,380
DR: So, basically, for the newer

podcasters out there, you

686
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:33,200
mentioned a couple of words here

that we might have to put on

687
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,290
the jargon wheel.
Can you explain L
cut?

688
00:37:37,290 --> 00:37:47,566
Did you say I Dan: so BC
Babbles: yes, Elka, so Elkin


689
00:37:47,574 --> 00:37:50,722
and J cut, it's their name that
way because of how they look


690
00:37:50,730 --> 00:37:54,340
visually when you're making
them, so an Elkhead is when the

691
00:37:54,340 --> 00:37:58,494
audio from a previous shot or
scene flows into the next scene,

692
00:37:58,494 --> 00:38:02,284

so it kind of like it allows
you to move into the next scene

693
00:38:02,284 --> 00:38:05,255
with
a bit of the previous
scene stripling in and out, then

694
00:38:05,255 --> 00:38:08,305
a J
cut is the opposite,
you're coming towards the end of

695
00:38:08,305 --> 00:38:11,671
a
scene, and then the sound
from the next scene intrudes on

696
00:38:11,671 --> 00:38:15,780
the
idea before the visual
actually cuts to the next shot,

697
00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:19,603
so it's a
sorry about that
broadcast, broadcast undergrad

698
00:38:19,603 --> 00:38:24,358
term that I
threw in, there
were those the only two DR. DR:

699
00:38:24,358 --> 00:38:25,669
I think so.
Yes, thank you.

700
00:38:27,319 --> 00:38:29,201
BC Babbles: Attribution, are we
are we good on attribution?

701
00:38:29,201 --> 00:38:31,400
We get there.
DR: Oh, let's do it.

702
00:38:32,329 --> 00:38:34,849
BC Babbles: So, attribution for
new podcasters basically is

703
00:38:35,059 --> 00:38:39,109
whether or not you have to, if

you use music or some kind of

704
00:38:39,619 --> 00:38:43,089
artistic property from another

artist attribution is when you

705
00:38:43,149 --> 00:38:47,379
have to give them their dues on
whatever you're using them for,

706
00:38:47,949 --> 00:38:51,320
so if you happen to find a piece

of audio music on YouTube

707
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,847
Studio that requires
attribution, it'll
actually

708
00:38:53,847 --> 00:38:57,069
give you a paragraph talking
about the artists, when
they

709
00:38:57,069 --> 00:39:00,124
made it, a bit more about the
artist's profile that you
have

710
00:39:00,124 --> 00:39:03,605
to include, say, in your YouTube
description for the
video you

711
00:39:03,605 --> 00:39:07,075
use their music ad.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Thank you.

712
00:39:07,075 --> 00:39:09,030
BC,
let's go to Sid.
Sid, go ahead.

713
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:11,940
Sid Meadows: There have been

some great tips here already

714
00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:17,220
about this, so you can Google

free podcast music, and there'll

715
00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:20,040
be several places to come up.

That's how, how I found my

716
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,150
music, and we've had the same

music, and we use it in a couple

717
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:26,878
of different ways.
We've looped
it before, all

718
00:39:26,878 --> 00:39:29,692
those things, and we just, in
the bottom of the
landing

719
00:39:29,692 --> 00:39:32,891
page, in the bottom of the show
notes, there's a little


720
00:39:32,899 --> 00:39:35,955
sentence attribution where we
got the music, who it's from,


721
00:39:35,963 --> 00:39:39,333
the link to the website, all
that kind of stuff, and it's


722
00:39:39,341 --> 00:39:43,029
just like one sentence, so it
was free, and I think there are

723
00:39:43,029 --> 00:39:46,485
lots of resources to get free
music that you can cut up and


724
00:39:46,493 --> 00:39:48,945
add to your show.
So I would encourage you to

725
00:39:48,945 --> 00:39:51,123
search for it.
Ralph Estep Jr.: That's a very


726
00:39:51,131 --> 00:39:52,813
good point.
And Jessica put in the chat,

727
00:39:52,813 --> 00:39:55,862
Sound Lab is free and
has an
audio editor, you can upload

728
00:39:55,862 --> 00:39:58,166
your sound and edit it,
faded
in or out.

729
00:39:58,166 --> 00:40:01,155
It also has a compressor.
Teacher, too, and my
takeaway

730
00:40:01,155 --> 00:40:03,762
from this one is they said
they're a hobbyist, and
that's

731
00:40:03,762 --> 00:40:06,228
a tough spot to be in, if you
think about it, because they


732
00:40:06,236 --> 00:40:09,226
probably don't want to spend a
lot of money, and it's easy to


733
00:40:09,234 --> 00:40:12,444
go find stuff to spend money,
but I think we've all given them

734
00:40:12,444 --> 00:40:14,812

some great ideas.
So, let's go ahead and move on

735
00:40:14,812 --> 00:40:17,388
to our final
question, so that
we have time for wins of the

736
00:40:17,388 --> 00:40:19,562
week.
So, go
ahead, DR. DR: The last

737
00:40:19,562 --> 00:40:22,429
question is, I
think podcast
hosts notice different things

738
00:40:22,429 --> 00:40:25,691
than listeners
do.
Sometimes I have been realizing

739
00:40:25,691 --> 00:40:31,009
lately is that podcast
hosts,
and wait a minute, some

740
00:40:31,369 --> 00:40:34,969
something I have noticed

realizing lately is that podcast

741
00:40:35,029 --> 00:40:38,839
hosts and listeners often seem

to judge episodes completely

742
00:40:38,929 --> 00:40:42,065
differently.
As a host, it is
easy to

743
00:40:42,065 --> 00:40:45,757
obsess over things like missed
questions, a rough
transition,

744
00:40:45,757 --> 00:40:49,364
a moment where you lost your
train of thought, or
something

745
00:40:49,364 --> 00:40:51,183
you wish you had said
differently.

746
00:40:51,183 --> 00:40:55,059
But when I talk to
people
about podcasts they enjoy, they

747
00:40:55,059 --> 00:40:58,991
rarely mention any
of that.
They usually remember an

748
00:40:58,991 --> 00:41:02,789
interesting story, a strong

opinion, a funny moment, or

749
00:41:02,939 --> 00:41:06,479
something that made them think

it makes me wonder, how much

750
00:41:06,659 --> 00:41:10,229
time podcasters spend worrying

about things that listeners

751
00:41:10,409 --> 00:41:13,055
barely notice.
Curious if others
have

752
00:41:13,055 --> 00:41:15,807
experienced this.
Have you ever disliked an

753
00:41:15,807 --> 00:41:19,822
episode you
made only to find
out listeners ended up enjoying

754
00:41:19,822 --> 00:41:21,709
it?
Ralph Estep Jr.: I think this is

755
00:41:21,709 --> 00:41:24,262

a great question.
DR: I think this is in every


756
00:41:24,270 --> 00:41:27,332
aspect of life, you know.
If you are a banker, you're

757
00:41:27,332 --> 00:41:30,906
going to
notice a teller when
you go into another bank.

758
00:41:30,906 --> 00:41:33,983
You're going to
notice a
teller who does her job really,

759
00:41:33,983 --> 00:41:35,926
really well.
Gosh, I
really like the way

760
00:41:35,926 --> 00:41:39,340
you covered out those $5 bills.
You know,
you're just going to

761
00:41:39,340 --> 00:41:42,836
notice things differently, no
matter
what genre you're

762
00:41:42,836 --> 00:41:45,437
talking about.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Yeah, so let me

763
00:41:45,437 --> 00:41:47,734

ask the room, has anybody
hated an episode they made and

764
00:41:47,734 --> 00:41:49,488
the
listeners liked it, or
vice versa?

765
00:41:49,488 --> 00:41:50,919
Go ahead, Sid, I see you
want
to comment.

766
00:41:51,540 --> 00:41:54,540
Sid Meadows: Yeah, this happened

to me so many times, like I'll

767
00:41:54,660 --> 00:41:57,420
record an episode and go, oh

man, that's just not going to

768
00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:59,130
turn out real, that's not going
to turn out good.

769
00:41:59,130 --> 00:42:02,740
And then I gotta listen to it,
and I'm
like, oh, wow, that's

770
00:42:02,740 --> 00:42:05,769
a really great episode.
I'm picking my
editor back and

771
00:42:05,769 --> 00:42:08,082
forth, like this is gonna need
some work, it's
not really

772
00:42:08,082 --> 00:42:09,678
good.
And then it turns out great.

773
00:42:09,678 --> 00:42:13,270
And then when I
listen to it,
because I listen to every

774
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:16,357
episode before it
publishes,
and then I'll be listening to

775
00:42:16,357 --> 00:42:19,275
it, and I try to
put my
listener ear on, right?

776
00:42:19,275 --> 00:42:22,305
And, but it's really hard,

because I'll be like, well,

777
00:42:22,305 --> 00:42:24,195
dang, you should ask this

follow-up question.

778
00:42:24,195 --> 00:42:28,039
Why didn't you go deeper on that
particular
topic?

779
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:31,959
And I've had episodes that I
think had one a few weeks
ago,

780
00:42:31,959 --> 00:42:35,618
I think was really good.
In fact, I would put it at the

781
00:42:35,618 --> 00:42:40,180
top
of my list for best
episodes this year, but it did

782
00:42:40,180 --> 00:42:44,980
not land
well with my audience
at all, and so it's just, I

783
00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:47,038
mean, this
is a journey and a
roller coaster.

784
00:42:47,038 --> 00:42:49,980
I'm not sure you're
ever going
to get off of, right?

785
00:42:49,980 --> 00:42:54,480
Because, as the creator, you're
always going to be critiquing,

786
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,180
but you can't necessarily think
the way your audience thinks.

787
00:42:57,180 --> 00:42:59,370
So, it's definitely a roller

coaster ride.

788
00:42:59,370 --> 00:43:01,519
Ralph Estep Jr.: I love that

analogy to Sid.

789
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:03,261
Roller coaster, we're going to
go to BC, and
then we're going

790
00:43:03,261 --> 00:43:04,485
to go to Dan.
Go ahead, BC.

791
00:43:05,249 --> 00:43:06,829
BC Babbles: Yeah, I got a couple

that I hate.

792
00:43:06,829 --> 00:43:09,141
One of them was due to a tech
issue that I didn't
realize

793
00:43:09,141 --> 00:43:12,084
was happening in the moment.
Something happened with
the SD

794
00:43:12,084 --> 00:43:16,544
card to where it only caught
literally every other
five

795
00:43:16,544 --> 00:43:20,785
seconds of our spoken audio.
So, in posts, thankfully,
I

796
00:43:20,785 --> 00:43:24,679
had a camera recording, I had to
go and post and use the


797
00:43:24,687 --> 00:43:28,379
camera's audio to fill in all
those gaps for a one hour


798
00:43:28,387 --> 00:43:30,721
conversation, and I couldn't get
the guests back.

799
00:43:30,721 --> 00:43:33,106
This was this
was the second
attempt to recording, and they

800
00:43:33,106 --> 00:43:35,217
were just,
they were done
trying to reschedule.

801
00:43:35,217 --> 00:43:38,809
So it's still out
there, and
I'll even share it if anyone

802
00:43:38,809 --> 00:43:40,273
wants to, but it's just
really
bad.

803
00:43:40,273 --> 00:43:43,537
You hear the back and forth
Rodecaster camera
audio, and I

804
00:43:43,537 --> 00:43:46,639
still hate it so much, but the
other one I guess
I should say

805
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:50,134
that I hate is the one that we
fired a couple years
ago, but

806
00:43:50,134 --> 00:43:53,033
on the other hand, that got some
of the highest numbers
in the

807
00:43:53,033 --> 00:43:55,449
history of my show, so I know at
least everyone else was
eating

808
00:43:55,449 --> 00:43:57,170
it up.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Yeah, that's


809
00:43:57,178 --> 00:43:59,510
the way it works, isn't it?
PC, go ahead, Dan, you're up,

810
00:43:59,510 --> 00:44:01,701
and
then we move into our wins
of the week, here in just a

811
00:44:01,701 --> 00:44:04,268
minute
or two.
Dan: Yeah, I mean, ultimately it

812
00:44:04,268 --> 00:44:07,310

doesn't matter what you think
or your co-host thinks, because

813
00:44:07,310 --> 00:44:09,875
someone's listening for the
first time, they're gonna like


814
00:44:09,883 --> 00:44:13,070
it or they're not gonna like it,
and no matter what, somebody's


815
00:44:13,078 --> 00:44:15,644
gonna hate it and somebody's
going to love it.

816
00:44:15,644 --> 00:44:17,024
Like, it's
just.. it's
ridiculous.

817
00:44:17,024 --> 00:44:20,750
One thing that is a little bit

related to that, that what Sid

818
00:44:20,750 --> 00:44:22,710
said kind of reminded me about

this.

819
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:26,250
When you actually go into the
real world and you meet your


820
00:44:26,258 --> 00:44:29,437
people and they say, oh, well, I
really love this episode.

821
00:44:29,437 --> 00:44:32,097
You
don't want to say, oh God,
that one sucked.

822
00:44:32,097 --> 00:44:35,239
You know what I
mean?
Because it's like really easy to

823
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,830
do that if they loved it
and
they're telling you they loved

824
00:44:38,830 --> 00:44:40,335
it.
You should always be
like, oh,

825
00:44:40,335 --> 00:44:42,420
this is awesome.
I'm really happy you said that.

826
00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:45,830
We
were trying to do was blah
blah blah blah blah.

827
00:44:45,830 --> 00:44:49,240
It's ultimately
what the
listener experiences, and it's

828
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:51,482
not usually what what
you take
out of it.

829
00:44:51,482 --> 00:44:53,762
My co-host and I argue about
this all the
time.

830
00:44:53,762 --> 00:44:56,467
When we record something, we
might be like, 'Oh, God, this


831
00:44:56,475 --> 00:44:58,619
sucks.
When I edit it, I'll be like,

832
00:44:58,619 --> 00:45:02,000
'Jen, you're way wrong.'

This was an awesome episode, and

833
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,508
then she'll listen to it and be
like, oh, this was like our

834
00:45:04,508 --> 00:45:07,184
best episode ever.
So, hopefully
you'll have more

835
00:45:07,184 --> 00:45:10,490
of that type of thing, but yeah,
I don't know.

836
00:45:10,490 --> 00:45:11,620
Ralph Estep Jr.: Very good

point, Dan.

837
00:45:11,620 --> 00:45:12,917
I just want to read two
comments.

838
00:45:12,917 --> 00:45:15,873
Sambaza put, I
have also had
the same experience when I look

839
00:45:15,873 --> 00:45:18,927
at show
and say that it wasn't
all that great in the letter.

840
00:45:18,927 --> 00:45:21,902
I have so
many reviews on it
that are positive, and Jessica

841
00:45:21,902 --> 00:45:24,485
said
podcasting is its own art
form.

842
00:45:24,485 --> 00:45:27,665
The challenge is that we judge

our podcasts by rigid standards

843
00:45:27,665 --> 00:45:31,475
of perfect without appreciating
the unique West the medium

844
00:45:31,475 --> 00:45:33,760
works.
The impact matters more
than

845
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,732
the polish, and Tide says we are
our own harshest critics,
and

846
00:45:37,732 --> 00:45:40,772
I agree with all of that.
I think the thing that we have

847
00:45:40,772 --> 00:45:42,650
to
take away from this, and I
actually took a different angle

848
00:45:42,650 --> 00:45:44,102
on this.
I thought they were more talking

849
00:45:44,102 --> 00:45:46,930
about the audio
quality, and I
think it was Daniel J.

850
00:45:46,930 --> 00:45:49,206
Lewis, and actually
he's going
to join us on the show Tuesday,

851
00:45:49,206 --> 00:45:51,568
by the way.
But he
said something his last

852
00:45:51,568 --> 00:45:54,278
podcast says, "Maybe you listen
to your
podcast without

853
00:45:54,278 --> 00:45:56,528
headphones on, because he said
you'll hear
things with

854
00:45:56,528 --> 00:45:57,938
headphones that you don't hear
otherwise.

855
00:45:57,938 --> 00:46:00,019
But I
thought that was a
really good point.

856
00:46:00,019 --> 00:46:02,635
Does anybody else want to
make
a comment before we move on to

857
00:46:02,635 --> 00:46:05,817
our wins from the week?
All
right, then we are going

858
00:46:05,817 --> 00:46:09,121
to go to our wins of the week.
Well,
this is your time to

859
00:46:09,121 --> 00:46:11,460
share your wins of the week.
I will get
started.

860
00:46:11,460 --> 00:46:13,743
Then I'm going to go down the
list here.

861
00:46:13,743 --> 00:46:17,527
I'm going to
be leaving here
soon after we get done this live

862
00:46:17,527 --> 00:46:20,105
show.
I'm
going to be getting to an

863
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:23,120
airport here in Philadelphia,

and I'm flying to Houston,

864
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,144
Texas, to see my little

grandbaby, Carson.

865
00:46:25,144 --> 00:46:28,829
My wife and I are super excited,
so please
keep us in your

866
00:46:28,829 --> 00:46:31,556
thoughts.
But that is my big win of the

867
00:46:31,556 --> 00:46:33,101
week,
a healthy, happy
grandson.

868
00:46:33,101 --> 00:46:35,543
My daughter-in-law got admitted
to
the hospital two days ago.

869
00:46:35,543 --> 00:46:38,138
I'm happy to report she was
released
last night, so

870
00:46:38,138 --> 00:46:41,054
everybody is doing well.
So, Janae, I come to
you for

871
00:46:41,054 --> 00:46:43,612
your win of the week next, and
then we'll just go
down the

872
00:46:43,612 --> 00:46:44,984
list here, if that's cool with
everybody.

873
00:46:44,984 --> 00:46:47,255
Well, I may
have said, there
we go, Janae.

874
00:46:48,035 --> 00:46:49,680
Junaid: I'm streaming my win of
the week.

875
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,440
I got to celebrate my 50th
birthday yesterday and
launch

876
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,305
my Pod Glue software operating
system for podcasters


877
00:46:57,313 --> 00:47:00,149
yesterday on a three hour live
stream.

878
00:47:00,149 --> 00:47:02,786
I got a ton of activity
in the
comments.

879
00:47:02,786 --> 00:47:05,738
I got to showcase the software
that I've
been building, and

880
00:47:05,738 --> 00:47:11,088
on top of that, I also released
the album
that's associated

881
00:47:11,088 --> 00:47:14,822
with Podglu, because you know
Todglute solves
certain

882
00:47:14,822 --> 00:47:18,720
problems that I was happening,
and those are things
that I

883
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:23,774
captured in music form as well,
so 700 conversations, no
one,

884
00:47:23,774 --> 00:47:28,970
nobody did, or guest best, best
guest ever, like those are


885
00:47:28,978 --> 00:47:33,206
some of the episode or songs
that I also got to play on the


886
00:47:33,214 --> 00:47:37,355
live stream, so that was a lot
of fun, and I think I'm going to

887
00:47:37,355 --> 00:47:41,069

do more of these live streams,
showcasing the software, asking

888
00:47:41,069 --> 00:47:46,091
people to join me, coming, you
know, next few weeks.

889
00:47:46,091 --> 00:47:49,115
Thank you,
Janae.
And podglu.com correct.

890
00:47:49,115 --> 00:47:53,510
Absolutely, that's podglu.com

And you're anybody who's a

891
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:57,530
podcast host and wants to

streamline their process, come

892
00:47:57,530 --> 00:48:01,640
join the join, join the

waitlist, and I will enter you

893
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,000
or add you to the software, so

you can go play around with it.

894
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,130
Thank you, Ralph Estep Jr.: Dan.
We're
going to come to you.

895
00:48:07,130 --> 00:48:09,980
Do you have a win of the week
you'd
like to share with

896
00:48:09,980 --> 00:48:11,995
everybody?
Dan: Yeah, we officially wrapped

897
00:48:11,995 --> 00:48:16,125

up season 10 of Bandcamp.
We start season 11 on Tuesday,

898
00:48:16,125 --> 00:48:20,990
and
I reached out a few months
ago to a bunch of various


899
00:48:20,998 --> 00:48:24,071
publications and just found out
yesterday we're getting some


900
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:28,610
major press in something in the
UK, some huge daily newspaper,


901
00:48:28,618 --> 00:48:32,760
and then some huge podcasting
literature newsletter type of


902
00:48:32,768 --> 00:48:34,925
thing.
So it's pretty cool.

903
00:48:34,925 --> 00:48:36,005
Ralph Estep Jr.:
Congratulations,
Dan, and

904
00:48:36,005 --> 00:48:38,265
thank you for sharing that.
Let's go ahead and go to


905
00:48:38,273 --> 00:48:40,430
Knikki.
Do you want to share a win of

906
00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:42,175
the week?
Knikki: Yeah, just thinking one

907
00:48:42,175 --> 00:48:46,474
of the biggest wins that I had
was I run some ads in the middle

908
00:48:46,474 --> 00:48:49,594

of my podcast for all
different kinds of things that

909
00:48:49,594 --> 00:48:53,171
I'm doing,
and one of my
podcasts had a great and easy

910
00:48:53,171 --> 00:48:57,958
segue into a book
that I had
edited alongside my client, and

911
00:48:57,958 --> 00:49:03,025
we were able to
sell, you know
a nice little chunk of copies of

912
00:49:03,025 --> 00:49:05,987
the book I
believe from from
that one ad in the podcast, so

913
00:49:05,987 --> 00:49:07,205
it was really
cool to see
that.

914
00:49:07,895 --> 00:49:09,155
Ralph Estep Jr.: Well,

congratulations, Knikki, that's

915
00:49:09,155 --> 00:49:10,670
fantastic.
DR. I'm going to go
to you,

916
00:49:10,670 --> 00:49:13,497
and then we'll go back to BC.
If he has a win, he wants
to

917
00:49:13,497 --> 00:49:17,114
share.
DR: Yeah, I do have a win, Sid.

918
00:49:17,114 --> 00:49:19,082

I do have a win, Sid.

919
00:49:19,082 --> 00:49:22,808
Okay, yeah, he's not even on
here
anymore, so anyway, for

920
00:49:22,808 --> 00:49:26,654
the past several weeks, my
husband's
truck has been in

921
00:49:26,654 --> 00:49:30,731
the truck hospital.
Everything went wrong
with it.

922
00:49:30,731 --> 00:49:36,380
So yesterday, my husband went to
go get a new
car, and we now

923
00:49:36,380 --> 00:49:41,355
have a new car.
We're proud owners of a


924
00:49:41,363 --> 00:49:46,108
beautiful 2023 Camry. and it
makes us look like such classy


925
00:49:46,116 --> 00:49:49,018
people when you drive past our
driveway.

926
00:49:49,018 --> 00:49:54,635
Now, thank you.
I Ralph Estep Jr.: thought that

927
00:49:54,635 --> 00:49:56,915
one was appropriate, because
it's not only a celebration, but

928
00:49:56,915 --> 00:49:59,022

a little bit of a car horn
there too.

929
00:49:59,022 --> 00:50:00,058
So that's fantastic.
Well.


930
00:50:00,066 --> 00:50:02,382
It, oh, thank you, DR. Before we
close out.

931
00:50:02,382 --> 00:50:04,255
Does anybody else
want to
share a win?

932
00:50:04,255 --> 00:50:07,471
It looks like BC has a win this
year, and
then we'll, we'll be

933
00:50:07,471 --> 00:50:09,520
wrapping it up a couple minutes
early today.

934
00:50:09,660 --> 00:50:11,460
BC Babbles: Yeah, most of my big

projects right now are kind of

935
00:50:11,550 --> 00:50:14,490
in the wait, so I'm gonna hold

on on any big updates there, but

936
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,040
I will say the very least it's

gonna be up in the 80s today,

937
00:50:17,250 --> 00:50:18,635
going up to the 90s this

weekend.

938
00:50:18,635 --> 00:50:21,555
It's gonna be a nice pool
weekend, so I take that for
my

939
00:50:21,555 --> 00:50:23,539
win.
Ralph Estep Jr.: Very good, BC.

940
00:50:23,539 --> 00:50:24,259

And I just want to thank

941
00:50:24,289 --> 00:50:25,567
everybody for all your support

today.

942
00:50:25,567 --> 00:50:28,849
I think we had a great show
answering some great real


943
00:50:28,857 --> 00:50:32,359
mailbag questions of people just
like us who started, or we've


944
00:50:32,367 --> 00:50:34,089
been through these struggles as
podcasters.

945
00:50:34,089 --> 00:50:36,979
So I just want to
wish
everybody a great weekend.

946
00:50:37,249 --> 00:50:40,369
Make sure you join us Monday.

Monday I'm going to do a Money

947
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:42,377
Monday, and then I'll give you a

little preview.

948
00:50:42,377 --> 00:50:44,427
On Tuesday, we're going to have
Daniel J.


949
00:50:44,435 --> 00:50:45,168
Lewis.
Daniel J.

950
00:50:45,168 --> 00:50:47,504
Lewis has been in podcasting for
a very long
time.

951
00:50:47,504 --> 00:50:50,169
He's going to talk about two
things: he's going to talk


952
00:50:50,177 --> 00:50:53,211
about pod gaugement, and he's
also going to talk about his


953
00:50:53,219 --> 00:50:55,389
other project, which is called
Pod Chapters.

954
00:50:55,389 --> 00:50:59,016
We'll do our
Wednesday news,
and then joining us Thursday is

955
00:50:59,016 --> 00:51:03,743
going to be Dave
Jackson, and
Dave is going to talk about how

956
00:51:03,743 --> 00:51:06,779
to prepare well
for an
interview from the host

957
00:51:06,809 --> 00:51:08,429
perspective.
What you should
research, so

958
00:51:08,429 --> 00:51:10,949
you're not just showing up with
a, I don't know,
sure what I'm

959
00:51:10,949 --> 00:51:13,685
going to ask you questions.
He's going to dig in
to how to

960
00:51:13,685 --> 00:51:16,647
really ask the best questions
and how to build your
research

961
00:51:16,647 --> 00:51:19,619
before you get started.
So, I just want to thank


962
00:51:19,627 --> 00:51:22,999
everybody for joining us today,
I want to wish you a super


963
00:51:23,007 --> 00:51:25,993
wonderful weekend, and I'm going
to go catch a plane and go see


964
00:51:26,001 --> 00:51:27,905
my grandbaby.
So, thank you so much for

965
00:51:27,905 --> 00:51:30,739
everybody who joined us
today,
and I will look forward to

966
00:51:30,739 --> 00:51:33,619
seeing you again on Monday.

Thank you, everybody.