296 - The Truth About Feeling Exposed When You Share Your Podcast

0:05 Good morning podcasting Morning Chat. Today is Friday, May 2nd, 2025, and today we're unpacking the weird pressure of sharing your podcast with people that you actually know and why it can feel harder than posting it for total strangers. So if you're listening live on Clubhouse, hit the share button, bottom left hand side of the screen and share it however Clubhouse lets you. And if you're listening via podcast or YouTube, please share this episode with a fellow podcaster. And now give us about 30 seconds and we'll get things rolling. Thanks for being here. Good morning again podcasting morning chat. Thank you for being here.

1:24 I am your host Mark Ronik and here on stage with me here on Clubhouse we have my Co hosts Dr. Fay, producer Ashley Feller, Amanda Sharp and Sid Meadows. Glad that you're here for my final day before vacation, which I'm a little giddy about if you haven't heard my enthusiasm and excitement this morning. Looking forward to getting away, looking forward to taking two weeks off. And not trying to diminish my other breaks or vacations, but you know, you can call them vacations, but at the same time, you know they were short trips, visiting family, visiting friends.

2:05 It wasn't what I would consider an official vacation where you get to actually go away someplace new, maybe get to spend some time on a beach, spend some time visiting new culture. This is what it's all about. This is what I am super excited about. I have not been to Europe since my late 20s. That's where half of my family is from. And then since then have really Mexico would probably be the only other country I've actually been to since. So this is going to be a great one. And it's the first time my wife and I have gone away to Europe together and it's been a long time for her too. So we are going to Spain. We're going to start in Madrid, spend a few days there with my stepson who is studying abroad.

2:52 Then we will fly to Lisbon. And by the way, it's taken me since we decided to go on this trip. It's taken me up until about the past week to stop saying Libsyn because of the hosting platform that I've known for so many years. I was having the hardest time spitting out Lisbon. But yes, that's where we will be. And then we are going to go to Algarve, which is basically the beaches of Portugal. So that we'll we'll spend probably like 5 days there. I cannot wait to unwind. And admittedly, as much as I love doing this show, I think I could use a little bit of a break. I think I need a recharge.

3:39 It's nothing to do with I it's I have full love for this community, full love for doing this. This is what really genuinely gets me up in the morning doing this show. And it's time for a little break. Yeah. Dr. Good morning. What did you want to say? Good morning. Just making sure that, number one, do you have this REAL ID thing that they're talking about? I do. And OK, and #2 we're very, very sure that these countries now have electricity. Is that right? Yes, yes, we do that Monday Madrid and a lot of the country of Spain lost power unexpectedly.

4:23 I guess you don't usually expectedly lose power, but they lost power the. Whole country. Just about the whole country and even into France. So that could have been me, right? That if that was one, exactly one week later, that would have been a traveling nightmare for me. So I'm grateful that that happened. I'm grateful that it wasn't a big deal at the end of the day. But yes, I'm good there, and I'm good with the Real ID thing too. So where does this real? I mean, 'cause I just saw something on my feed. They're having a big community picnic here where I live, and they're saying this is your last chance to get the real ID. Well, I'm not going to go to this damn picnic. Where would I get this ID if I need to travel, let's say like if something bad happens, you know the family members who are in California?

5:11 I mean, where I got it, and that was probably a year or two ago, probably, yeah, was when I was still in Maryland. So maybe almost three years ago, I got it at the DMV. So yeah. And Sid wants to chime in. Let's see what Sid has to say. Go ahead, Sid. Yeah. D Are you sure you don't have it? I haven't traveled in. But when was the last? Time doesn't matter. Doesn't matter, Yeah. When was the last time you got your driver's license? Yeah. Oh yeah, I got. I have a driver's license. No, no, you're not. You the the driver's license. Does it have a star on it? Oh, I have to check. I'll check. Yeah, 'cause if you if you've gotten a license renewed in the past handful of years, it may be very likely you have it. Oh, oh, thank God.

5:55 OK, Yeah. There'll be a star in the upper right hand corner of your driver's license and that is a REAL ID. If you don't have it, then you have to go to the DMV to get it. Or maybe they must be doing something at your community event, but you will have to have it to travel anywhere in the United States to get through TSA. Or they're going to, they said they're going to do some other kind of like they'll be some kind of delay or something around it. But you got to, you're going to have to have it. So you're going to have to. Do and by the way, Mike and. Now you got me curious, I'm going to go check my ID right now. Yeah, Mike Short says Real ID is for domestic flights. Where are two guys on a plane when we need them. But it doesn't matter. We got Mike here. It says domestic flights, a passport works in lieu of having one.

6:37 Well, I definitely have my passport as well. We, we, we make. Sure, the real ID won't get you to spend your passport. Yes, we've got the passport, we're good there. The only thing I wish we had was, you know, we have pre the SA, but I know that does that's also just domestic. So I wish we had that international one. I forget what it's called, but we don't. So clear. No. Yes, clear is 1, but there is another one I think through. Global Entry. Yeah, I think that might be it, yes. Yeah. So there you go, a little travel advice for people and tips for people here on the podcasting morning chat. I promise we will get to some podcasting and content related content in a minute.

7:20 Here's what I want to do. We are going to get into our wins from the week. We do have the list of what people shared last week as far as their goals that they wanted to set for this past week. So we'll hear if everybody was able to do that or what they're continuing to work on. But today I want to 1st dive into something that I think is super real for a lot of us, especially if you're just starting a podcast. And by the way, we are live on YouTube. That's what this link is here that I'm sharing on Clubhouse. And if you are watching already on YouTube, that's those voices that you're hearing, those people that I'm speaking with. It's coming through Clubhouse, so if you'd like to be a part of the actual conversation and join us on stage, I will share a link in over on YouTube in just a moment. So Dr. came across a post on Reddit this morning from a new podcaster who shared something.

8:20 Like I said, I think a lot of us have probably felt at some point or another. The person said along the lines of I've done all the work, picked a name, got the gear, planned my episodes and now I'm finally posting teasers. But suddenly I feel embarrassed, especially about people I know seeing it. Are they judging me? Making fun of me? I was excited and now I feel kind of exposed. I'm paraphrasing a bit, but that is the sentiment. That is the message that this this person put out on Reddit and Dr. If you can grab the link, put it in the chat so that people can see what we're talking about, that would be awesome.

9:03 So this fear of being seen, of finally putting your work out there, I think that can for a lot of us bring up a weird mix of excitement, self doubt. So today, we're going to take and talk about that moment, how to push through the nerves, the stage fright, and that little voice that says, what if they think this is stupid, right? Or what are they going to say about me? So let's get into it. I want to start. Why do you guys think it feels scarier to share your podcast with people, you know, versus total strangers? Yeah. Amanda, good morning. I put this into the same camp as I don't want Marcus watching my Tik Toks.

9:51 I can do a TikTok and put it out there for the rest of the world. But there are certain people like, oh, it's just so cringy if they see it because they know me on a whole different level. And I'm not saying I'm not authentic when I'm on my podcast or any of my social stuff that I'm doing, but he knows like me inside and out. And so for him, I just feel like there's going to be these thoughts like, oh, you not really like that or you don't really say it that way because he knows really every ounce of my truth, you know what I mean? So it's it's and he's never once said anything bad. But if there is just that level, that difference of somebody who knows, you will know if you're just off a little bit.

10:32 So I think there is that extra pressure there. And for a long time, I didn't put my Tik Toks on my Facebook because there was the people who knew me in real life and then there was the people who didn't. And there was something so much easier about posting it for the people who didn't know me in real life than the people who knew me in real life. So I don't know the psychology behind it, but even I who very open still like struggled with that up until recently. It's so interesting because I would think like, I feel like I know you really well, clearly not as well as your husband. And I feel like I know you so well. And I feel like that's the Amanda that I, I speak to off of TikTok. And I've got to imagine that he feels that same way like that up there.

11:14 There's my wife doing her thing, doing the Amanda thing. It's funny that we worry about how it will be perceived by the people that know us the most. Sid, I saw your hand come up. Let what say you, Sir? I had a couple of thoughts about this. So I think it was either Seth Godin or Simon Sinek that I heard say on a podcast that imposter syndrome is syndrome is not real. It's just noise in your brain, right? And I know it can be hard to get over because I've been in that same situation. We all have been in that same situation. We put ourselves out in the world, right? We're fearful of the judgement of what people will say. But when you think about this in my, I guess it's between my famous words is like, how do we reframe this, right? And rather than reframe and thinking of it as I'm being judged, reframe it to say something like, I'm being celebrated.

12:12 These people are engaging with my content. These people are seeing my content. I'm having an impact on them and their lives and their business and reframe it in a positive way. And you're kind of do that thing. The two things that Mel Robbins says is you let them let them judge. If they're going to let them judge, let me keep showing up and doing, doing what I'm doing and putting good out in the world. And then when you walk by that mirror, high 5 yourself and say I'm doing great. Thank you, Sid. And I do feel like the the whole time you're sharing like that resonates with me. And I think there's this other, there's the old side of me that I think is representing a lot of people that say, that's so easy to say, OK, we're just going to reframe it. And you gave some examples, but I still, I still can hear people saying, well, I, I just can't do that. I can't reframe.

13:03 What would you say to that? The first thing that I would say to that is you have to get out of your own way because all of us know that we individually each other our own detriment to our own success, right? We got to get out of your own way and imposter syndrome is standing in the way of your success. And if you creating greatness in your in the world and in your life. So it's hard, but you just got to keep re framing you keep reaffirming for yourself that I am capable. I am good, right? I can do this. I'm making an impact and because you will stand and just think about the people that you know, Mark, that you've watched derail their career and or their life because they have fear around being seen or being judged. It's it is real.

13:54 People do it all the time. Yeah, I I agree. And there when you said that there are a couple people that popped in my head that I won't mention. But yes, I I know who those people are in my life. I think it's OK if you just have those thoughts. I think our thoughts are hard to just shut down 100% of the time. It's the action of not following through though. Because even though I even struggle with those thoughts occasionally, I'm still posting the content I'm just on guard for like oh so and so might say something like that's in my own brain, but at least it's not stopping me from actually doing what I'm wanting to do. So I think if you're thinking that, that's one thing. But if you're thinking that and then it's preventing you from actually posting, that's something that needs attention for sure.

14:40 Yeah, I agree with you it. And I've been working on that myself. As far as when I'm looking to post clips from this show, I tend to notice that I judge them like in the in the sense that when I'm putting, when I'm watching this clip and I'm determining, is this worthy of putting out there? And then I often hesitate. It's not strong enough. The hook isn't very good. Or, you know, I'll start questioning it. And it's all about because I'm thinking about how people will perceive it or won't perceive it and we'll just swipe by right. And I've been working a lot over the past couple weeks. If something catches my eye, it caught my eye for a reason, I'm going to put it out there and see what happens.

15:26 And it's the one, it's the clips that I scrutinize over that and that I think that are going to be the winners that usually aren't. And this week's example of the one that I thought was just a throwaway ended up being the most successful one of the week. The one that I posted this week that did really well that I thought nothing of, but I put it out there anyway. When we had our conversation, we were talking about Netflix considering adding podcasting and we got into the whole idea of binge content and I was sharing my strong opinion that I don't think binge content is a good idea as far as putting out a whole season of TV episodes out in one drop. I said it's a bad idea and I shared why that one on TikTok for me it's already got a couple 1000 views. That's really strong lately for me on TikTok. I've been struggling to get views on TikTok and similarly on YouTube as a YouTube short.

16:25 It's got around 2000 views there. Instagram is another story. I, I'm I, I feel like breaking up with Instagram, but that's a whole other conversation. So yeah, it's sometimes it's just a matter of put it out there, stop judging it, stop wondering, will this be perceived well? Will this be successful and just put it out there. Wish it luck and move on. All right, Mike, coming to you. Yeah, I figured out the buttons. So I can relate to this from a standpoint, but for me it's a little bit different. It's not necessarily people that I know, it's people that I've known for a long time. So when I and I don't really deal with it too much anymore. But I can remember earlier in my career when I started speaking and training, if everybody in the room was somebody I didn't know or somebody that I had met that I had a some, you know, a level of professional reputation with not a problem.

17:22 But as soon as somebody walked in and I knew in high school or college or something like that, immediately my brain went to, they Remember Me like I was at 18 years old or 20 years old or whatever the case is. And the fear, and I don't even really want to call it a fear, but the level of anxiety I had was around kind of being discovered to be, you know, like I was when I was 18 years old, right? And, you know, having somebody on is going, this guy didn't know what he's talking about. You know, I remember when he did this at the bar or whatever the case was. So, you know, as my career progressed and I had spoken in front of more and more people that I know.

18:07 And as we have all aged, you know, that's gone away. But I can remember feeling that early in my career particularly. Oh yeah, that that I. That's so relatable. I, I know when I was putting out my old podcast, I would wonder what my old friends would think about it and that they would maybe question it. And now I think about my old audience from that podcast who saw a slightly different side of me, you know, because here, you know, it's a lot about empowerment and education around podcasting and content creation. The other show I was just being a goofball. And I hope sometimes I can. I, I still am a goofball here, but, you know, I wonder if that audience and some of that audience has followed me over here.

18:51 And sometimes I wonder, what are they thinking? Are they thinking I'm just putting on an act now because they're seeing this other side of me, this empowerment side of me? It did take a minute for me to come to grips with who cares? And because this is who I am now. And yeah, I was maybe a little bit of a different person back then. And we all evolve. And I have to accept that. And so do they. And if they don't, let them, said Dan. Good morning. Good morning. I love this conversation. I and I want to go back to two things that Sid touched on. One was the imposter syndrome itself and whether or not it is such a thing. I like to refer to the definition of imposter, which is a person who pretends to be someone else in order to deceive others, especially for fraudulent gain. Now, I didn't hear anything fraudulent or intentional deception of other people in any of what we're talking about. So I don't believe in the phrase imposter syndrome. I know why it was created in the late 70s. I know who created it.

19:59 I don't think it should still be as prominent as it is in today's entrepreneurial and creator world because I don't think any of us are intentionally deceiving others. Now, that said, the other piece I wanted to talk about really quickly was the reframing, because it can be difficult to simply reframe. But that ties directly into our conversation yesterday and the reactions when I said that I set up in a coffee shop with a sign that says I'm a coach, let's have a conversation. Not everybody, even the extroverts in the room, felt comfortable with that as a starting point. And that's OK.

20:41 I think to reframe something, it starts with the smallest single step that you can take to create that habit, to create the environment that makes it more comfortable. So start by telling yourself, first of all, I'm not trying to deceive anyone. And if you feel like you're trying to deceive someone, then maybe consider what is the message I'm putting out? Am I showing up as who I am with these people not recognize me? Is that the fear? Whatever it is, change the language that you're telling yourself and then start taking the small action steps that lead to the thing you're trying to achieve. That's what I had to say. This morning.

21:22 Thank you, Dan, thank you and thank you for defining the word imposter because that has been something that for whatever reason, it bothers me when people say there's no such thing when Sid said, you know, there are people out there no such thing as imposter syndrome or I don't believe in imposter syndrome. And I sit here thinking, but it's real. There are people who feel like, you know, they're doing something and it's it doesn't feel like them, right. And but really what that comes down to is they think other people will say this is not who you are. That's really what it comes down to. And so I think what I would love to do sometime is really figure out what's the better way to name that because it is a thing. It's just that the the word imposter is inappropriate based on the definition you just shared. So what is that right word?

22:15 Because, again, it is real. Yeah. Billy, good morning. What did you want to add? Good morning, good morning. I mean, you know what, I think we all feel this way when we first get started a little bit, right, Because it's, it's like riding a bike, like you're not a bicycle ride here until you learn how to ride a bike. And so often times when you're start putting out content or whatever, I mean, a new job, you know, go working a new job for somebody and you're like, I suck at making smoothies. I why am I even here? You know, it's like it's just part of the life. It's like part of the journey. And the problem I think most people have is they just don't do it enough. I feel like an idiot. When I started making Amazon videos, I'm like, man, is this what is what am I doing? Like, is this how I want to make content? Is how I want to make money?

22:59 Like this is stupid. I had other people telling me I was stupid, had other content creators tell me I was stupid. And now I look back and I go, oh, you know what? 4000 videos late or almost 4000 videos later in a ton of freaking money paying off debt. Like, my content hit my goals and it served its purpose and still served its purpose. And I think that's the big thing that I will take for the rest of my life is like, it might feel weird at first. It definitely felt like taking, you know, a shower with my socks on. But it served its purpose and it's doing what it's designed to do. And I knew that from the beginning.

23:39 I had that vision. I had that conviction. But everyone around me was telling me I was an idiot and now all those people are asking me how I'm doing it. So that's what I think. People just don't do it enough to feel comfortable doing it. Yeah, thank you. Thank. Great example, Thank you for sharing. I think you're right. I think a lot of this has to do with putting in the reps, and it does feel awkward doing something different for the first time or for several times. And once you start putting in those reps, I mean, even doing this show, as many years as I've been podcasting and I know I've shared it, so I'll be brief, Even when we started doing the podcasting morning chat a few years ago, when I started hosting it, I felt weird.

24:26 And it took me a while to really find my groove and to feel more comfortable and to feel like it's almost second nature at this point. And that has helped me shed that fear of what would my old audience think of me. Now I don't, it doesn't bother me anymore. By the way, I was working in ChatGPT explaining how we don't like imposter syndrome as a term. And one, one term that that is striking me here is authenticity anxiety. And it even defines it in a quick sentence, captures the fear of not well, it's not defining it. It's explaining it captures the fear of not being truly what others believe you to be.

25:13 And that's what I was trying to say a moment ago, right? It's not really that we feel like the imposter, It's that we're afraid others are going to look at us as an imposter. So I like that one. That's when I'm going to hold on to for the time being until I find something else. Authenticity anxiety, So. Ashley put this in the chat that she thinks it's rooted in. This is all rooted in the fear of success. And I absolutely agree with that. I think there's so much of this that is rooted in fear, whether it's fear of success or fear of being judged or fear of haters coming in or, you know, fear of being found out. I mean, I just think there's so much that could be root potentially rooted in fear.

25:53 And to Dan's point earlier, I mean, when he talked about putting the sign up, Mark, I loved your image by the way, that you put with that, because the facial expression on that character is so good. But I think, you know, I said it gives me the heebie jeebies even thinking about that, right? But I think it's possibly rated in fear, like the fear of doing that. But then as, as you were talking to psycho, I think about it like when people reach out to me and, and give me a blind connection on LinkedIn and they're in the furniture industry, I immediately send them a note saying, Hey, it's great to be connected. I love networking with other furniture friends. Ask them how they're doing. And I started a little conversation with them, which this is very similar.

26:35 Not a lot different than putting a sign up, right? And depending on how that conversation goes, I might put a link in there for them to schedule what I call coffee chat with me and to just connect with me just so that they have a problem I can help them with or just networking with people, because you never know what can happen when you network, when you network. I can't talk this morning when you network with somebody. So Dan, I'm doing it, but probably a little bit differently than a than a coffee shop. But I do think so much of this is actually rooted in fear. And I saw a lot of people had their hand. Up to you. Yes, I agree with you, Sid. And I was thinking that yesterday too, especially when you were saying it gives you the heebie jeebies. I was thinking, yeah, that it's probably more fear based than anything else.

27:16 Dan, I'm going to let you skip the line since he was Sid was calling you out as far as some of the things you were sharing. So go ahead. I appreciate that and I'll be very brief. I just wanted to say what Sid just made me think about is we're all doing the same thing when we put that headline in our LinkedIn or we put that information on our website, you're essentially already doing the same thing since we started the conversation with reframing. There you go. Yeah, Jackie, good morning. Go for it. Hi, good morning everybody. So we're talking about imposter syndrome. I used to be, I used to have this and everything, but now I'm learning to just step into what I'm doing because everybody's new at one point, right? And it takes a second to kind of like get into the mindset of what we're doing.

28:05 Like even the win I'll share today is a huge change for me. So just changing your mindset, it's like almost the fake it till you make it, you think, but you're actually doing it. So it's like, why does it even happen? I don't know. This is all just kind of floating out of me. But I feel like I've 100% felt that before, even in my podcasting because I talk about a lot of mental health issues, right? But I'm not a psychologist, I'm not a life coach. I'm another mom, right? It's like talking to a friend, but it's almost like, whoa, do I need to stay in my own lane or is this OK to share with the public? And then I just can. I just thought about it and I was like, screw it. Like I'm a mom.

28:48 If you sat down with me in a conversation, I'd be saying these same things. I'm not recommending certain things to people. I'm just telling people how I've done it, how this person's done it, and it's just a conversation, right? But it does take you a SEC to kind of shake off all of those like I'm not this, I'm not that. No, you are because you're doing it. That sounds so simple, but it's really not when you do it right. Yeah, agreed. Agreed. And there's something you said that triggered something for me. You know, people also, they don't really care what you're doing. You know those people that you that are judging you, quote UN quote, they may judge you.

29:30 I'm not saying people don't judge. We all judge. I I believe that at some, some way, somehow all of us judge. But I think for the most part, they're judging you for a minute. I'm being not literal with that word, but they're judging you, you know, maybe seeing something, maybe thinking or saying something. They're not losing no sleep over it. You are. They're not scrutinizing it. You are, it may have been a passing thought in their mind, like what is Mark doing? What? Who does he think he is empowering everybody, trying to be this motivational speaker. You know, I'm, I'm just making up judgement as I go here. You know, who does he think he is?

30:11 Right? They may think that, but they're more worried about themselves. They're moving on after that and they're dealing with their own crap in their own life. And you're the one that then takes that. If you if you heard them say it or saw them say it, you're the one that's then losing the sleep over your thinking that they're scrutinizing over it. But the truth is it's just you who's scrutinizing and it. And that's helped me to let it go when I'm starting to worry about what others think. OK, Amanda. So I hope everyone can follow what I'm saying when I say this because it's kind of I struggle with being humble not in the way that other people might struggle with humble. Like I try to be so extremely on the one side of humble that I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm not an influencer. Like stop.

31:03 Like there's something about it. Like I downplay the significance of what I've done. And it's because I think I was raised that you be humble, you be humble, you be humble without explaining to me that there is a large line of where you can fall on that humbleness. So I'm so extreme and that I almost shoot down the attention of any kind of success where you can still be humble while embracing and accepting that what you've done is good and special. Where when I try to like downplay, am I an influencer? I surely am, so I don't know why I keep pretending like I'm not.

31:46 I don't know of anyone I know in real life who has ever done any more content creating than I have. Well, except for Billy, but so why can't I say with pride, because I put in the work I've put in the reps that I to some degree am an influencer doesn't meet because the spectrum of what an influencer is is so large either, you know, is wow. So I just feel like there's for me this level of, Oh, you have to stay humble because I was like beat in the head to think that growing up without it being explained to me that you can be humble and successful at the same time.

32:29 So I'm unpacking that as a 43 year old adult. Yeah, I so appreciate that unpacking. Thank you. Because what that really what that is, is the whole message of don't be humble is really, I think what's deep rooted into that is don't be. You must be humble. Sorry, you must be humble because people will judge. Like what really is the message behind that? Why are we told to be humble? Yeah, who even started that? Well, I think a lot of religion has started that. I mean, I know that there are people that at least culturally in their religions, they're told you must, you know, you must remain humble.

33:09 But that judgement seed was planted early, whether it was religion, family, friends. I think that when we're kids that a lot of us hear that and take that to heart and take that through adulthood. And I think that can cause whatever we want to call it, imposter syndrome, fear of success, fear of judgement, etcetera, etcetera. Yeah, I'm with you, Kate. Good morning. Welcome to the stage. What did you want to add about this whole thing of imposter syndrome? Good morning everyone and Amanda, yes, you rock. Your content is so fun and authentic and so much fun to watch. So I actually have a little section in my book about imposter syndrome. And when I was doing some research on it, it showed that up to 82% of people have dealt with imposter syndrome in some way throughout their lives. And most of the time it's very high achievers, students, people in the creative field.

34:04 And so I always find that to be very interesting. It's like the people that are like you guys, all of the people in this room that are high achievers have big dreams going after stuff. We are the people that deal with it the most. I love listening to those round tables of actors and actresses. There's always actresses or actors that will talk about. How they have? Imposter syndrome, Renee Zellweger, I remember she was sharing, you get that feeling when you get so excited when you book a new part, but you read that you reread the screen of the play or that you reread the script and you think, Oh my gosh, am I going to be able to do this? Are they going to fire me on the 1st day? Like can I actually, can I actually perform the way that I need to perform? And so I just think that this idea of imposter syndrome, we feel like an imposter when we do something new, when we're leaning into growth.

34:52 And so it's not necessarily a bad thing. It's just we haven't maybe done something that we're striving for because we're constantly working towards something better. So I think it's not a bad thing. It really just is. We are growing and knowing that other people are going through it, but just pushing through and continuing to do the work and getting better. Yeah, thank you, Kate. Yeah, awesome points. I and I'm going to keep it moving just because we also want to get to sharing wins from the week. So I'm going to try to bite my tongue moving forward here. I know that I love answering people when they share, so please forgive me. And Yvonne, welcome. What did you want to add? Good morning. I'm just going to call it imposter syndrome, regardless of like whether or not it's a good term.

35:37 But Oh yeah, the struggle is real. It's what kept me from starting my podcast for two years. I had the idea in my head. I didn't realize that imposter syndrome was what was holding me back. I had a whole lot of other excuses like time and money which were which were valid, but when I realized that part of the conversation was like, does the world need another podcast? Who? Who would even listen to me? I'm not a psychologist, I don't have 3 letters after my name, who am I? I think when we ask ourselves that who am I to do this question? That is classic imposter syndrome.

36:19 I felt like I would be an imposter if I put a mic in front of me and called myself a podcaster. And one of the things that freed me up was Gary, a book by Gary Vee. I can't remember the name of it right now, but he talked about just bringing people along your journey and not not needing to be an expert. So that gave me freedom to step into it and say, hey, I'm I'm not an expert. This is just me figuring life out. I'm going to take you along with me and share stories of me and other people and, and you know, we'll see where this goes. But I feel like an imposter every time I put a camera on and get, get up to make, get on my skates and put something on Instagram that it always feels cringey to me every single time. And I think the only thing that keeps me going is that my mission is bigger than my sense of shame. So that's all I have to say about that. Yeah, yeah.

37:21 Oh, I do want to add that whole that Kate was talking about the actresses and and the people still feeling, you know, that sense of imposter syndrome, you'd never expect it. Why was Sean felt like an imposter the entire time he was filming? Oh, and then Cynthia, you, you created one of the blunders. But to help me here people. I can't. I don't know. I wish I could, Princess. Bride. Princess Bride? Yes, Yes. Princess Bride, every day he, you know, he was cast. I don't think he was the first choice for the role. And he felt like he was going to get fired every single day that he filmed on that set. And look, look at what he did.

38:03 Yeah, yeah. Great point, Great point. I'm still working, by the way, on a a new name for imposter syndrome, maybe self identity syndrome, I don't know. I really want to come up with something. OK, Alexandra, good morning. What did you want to add to this that? 'D be like a whole dissertation, but I totally get that. I've always had that. It's not necessarily imposter syndrome, it's more of a problem that are than are them problem because I project my insecurities onto other people, but based on stories and legends of my past self that I've heard of.

38:44 When I was first growing up, before we moved to a different place, I was a very precocious child. Like my mom taught me how to read because we were at a church meeting and I couldn't find anybody to read to me. Somebody said to me, you know, we'll go read it yourself. And I said, I don't know how to read. My mom went out and bought Hooked on Phoenix the next day. There's a whole bunch of stories about me not being afraid to speak around because that's this example my mom had set more than than anything. But when my dad got assigned to his second pastoral ship, we had to move to a place where for the most part, you only saw the black people on Sunday at church. The school that I went to was a kindergarten through 8th grade school.

39:31 And I think counting me there were two, maybe three other like visit. Like you could tell they were black just by looking at them because of the amount of melanin in their skin. Kids in that school and the first time I had the gall to question a teacher because I didn't understand why she wanted me to do something. And for the first time in my life, instead of being praised for speaking my mind or somebody just being like, well, This is why I got sent to the principal's office for insubordination. Wow. And I was in second grade and so that was when I started internalizing. It's like when nobody wants to hear what I have to say because they're going to label be this, that or the other. And when I was in high school, I got my freshman year, I got put into an honor English class.

40:22 And as you guys know, I love to write. So English was always by jam, but I of my honors English class, and it wasn't because I wasn't capable of doing the work, because my teachers, I can't say how many pet teacher conferences they had with me that year, kept saying you are smart, you are good at this. But the problem was I didn't do the work because a part of me was just like, I didn't believe that when they said that I was smart. So I was like, why bother trying? Alexandra is such a powerful example and an important one to share too, because I do know that racism can play a big role in imposter syndrome for people and I and I really appreciate you bringing that to light here this morning.

41:08 It's really important to call out, So thank you and. It was just because I wasn't the. And The thing is, I wasn't the only black kid in that AP classes and they were all doing amazing. And I, and I know I recognize now that my teachers were very supportive, their reasons. And they were calling my parents and all the times because they didn't understand why I wasn't doing the work. Because when I did do the work, they were like, you are fantastic. And I would get A's. So they never understood why I didn't. And I was just like, it didn't matter how many times I got an AI, still had that voice at the back of my mind that I'm not good enough. Thank you, Alexandra for sharing and as usual, being so open about your journey with us. I really appreciate you, Janae.

41:56 Welcome. I'm going to give you the final word on this imposter syndrome topic so that then we can move into sharing some wins from our week. Go for it. Thank you. Good morning. A very powerful topic, Alexander knows, really insightful. And and as to your point, it's somebody pointing you out, don't do that. That's imposter syndrome. From what I've been hearing, it's almost like permission. We're asking for permission to do something. And Yvonne said, why do I need to do have another podcast? I don't have all of these things. We're essentially looking for permission. And Yvonne, remember, I don't know if you remember, the book you probably read was Gary Vee's Crushing It because at the end of that book he says just go document your journey. I think that was it, yeah.

42:43 Right, because that was the same book that inspired me to start my podcast. Which book again? Can you say the title again? Crushing It by Gary Vaynerchuk came out in 2018. OK. Powerful book. There's so many examples in that book of other people taking the leap, stepping out of their imposter syndrome and finding the community that encouraged them, inspire them, because we're all looking for that permission. We're all looking for that encouragement. And it's OK to do what we want to do. We don't need to, you know, wallow in our own mind and be like, no, nobody wants this. No, people want stories. And we see that from all the people that are writing stories. And when Mark the book that you've been reading, let them theory.

43:32 She's about the same thing, right? Just let them think what they're thinking. Do what you have to do. Yep. Thank you. Yeah, Thank you, Janae. And awesome. Thanks for pulling that, that book title out. That's cool. Kate in the chat just said Mark, how about Bravery Gap or Oh, Courage Curve? OK, so she's Kate you're playing along with trying to find a new name. I love it. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe I want something. I want it to be a term that sticks with people the way that imposter syndrome stuck with people. Right. You hear that term and even if it's for the first time, you instantly connect with it. At least that's the way that's how I see it.

44:13 I see so many people instantly connecting with it, even if it's the first time they've heard it. False self syndrome. Could that work? Maybe. I'm going to think about that. OK, Great conversation. Thank you. And it's one that I know we could continue to talk about on and on and on. And I'm sure we will come back to it again at some point .1 morning. But for now, I want to move on and talk about our wins from the week. And some of you last week shared with us some goals that you had and I have those documented here. So I might ask you about that while we are sharing our wins from the week. So let's do it.

44:54 Let's dive in. If you'd like to share, now's your chance. If you're listening live on Clubhouse, If you're listening live on YouTube, I've provided a link to come join us over here on Clubhouse to be a part of the conversation. Or you can put your wins from this past week in the chat on either Clubhouse or YouTube. All right, so let's do it. I'm want to start with Michael. Michael, good morning. Welcome again. And please share any wins from your past week. And also, Michael, I believe you did share with us a goal, so I'll check in with you on that too. Go ahead. So the wins for the week started working on this new podcast that I think I had mentioned a while back around the fraternity world and serving undergraduate fraternity sorting leaders and that type of thing.

45:45 So we've got a schedule laid out this week. I spent some time just really clearly identifying who the audience is going to be and what the transformation I want them to get from being a listener to the podcast is going to be. Also had a great opportunity to participate in a discussion with a group of folks that Junaid gave this week. It was AQ and A, and Janae did just a fantastic job with that. It was exciting to be a part of that and then I went back and re watch the replay because I was kind of in and out of the live version of it. I was at work and kept having customers come in to buy stuff. It's so annoying to make money when I'm trying to make money. I mean. So that's the win for the week and I put this podcast off for well over a year now. There's just been some things going on in life that are starting to get settled, getting into a new place this week. So the goal for this week is just going to be let's get the equipment out, figure out how I'm going to set it up in the new space and get ready within the next couple of weeks to start recording.

46:47 And then the podcast should launch by or around the end of June. That's the time frame. Love it. Congratulations on those wins. Congratulations for following through on your goal 'cause I know your goal last week was to get through the 1st week of this accelerator program that you're a part of, the Pat Flynn Accelerator program. Very cool. Congratulations, Michael. Looking forward to hearing more about Old Frat Guy, the podcast coming soon. Awesome. It's going to be fun. Yeah. And I will absolutely. If you ever want another guest, happy to be a guest to talk about the old fraternity days. And yeah, well, I'm happy to do that. You are on the list.

47:27 Awesome. Cool. Let's keep it going with Dan. Dan, good morning. Please share a goal and a win with us today. Well, let's see, I wasn't here last Friday so I'll use my win. Was spending Friday and Saturday with 16 of my new best friends, amazing coaches and speakers from all over the country and one from Canada. That was an amazing experience and I'm looking forward to the launch of that new company and a goal goal. I'm starting a sunset intention setting session here locally in the community as a way to just meet some new people and bring some people together.

48:08 For a good purpose. Love it. Love it. Congratulations, Dan. And yeah, it sounds like that was a great weekend trip Sounded. Yeah, that sounds really cool. I'm excited for you and looking forward to hearing how your goal goes. Well, I won't be able to be a part of that conversation next week, but I will go back and listen to the podcast next week when you all are carrying the show without me. Jackie, good morning. Please share your win and a goal for your upcoming week. Hello everybody, So I think I might have shared a little bit this week. This week felt like 5 weeks. I became a coach at Orangetheory.

48:48 That is what my biggest win last Friday. I made it through the process and I'm now shadowing. I have another win too. I'm currently at my best friend's retreat, which Mark, you know, Nicole. Oh yeah. So I'm in Virginia at her retreat and my goal is just to make the most out of this retreat for me so. Awesome. Awesome. Well, have a blast there. Say hi to Nicole. I met Nicole at a meet up Janae and I hosted in DC in December. Yeah, she was there. So very cool. Tell her hello. And Yvonne, please share a win and a goal with us. Dominic Lawson was my guest on the podcast this week.

49:32 So that's a win. I went and and I'm going to throw one more in there. I went to my first in person roller dance. Class on Sunday. Scary but so fun. Oh my gosh, I felt like Bambi on you know, in the movie trying to stand up. Anyway, very fun and goal for the week. I don't know, can't wrap my head around that. Get through it, yeah. OK, I'll take it to get through next week. I'll take it. And congratulations on those wins. That's awesome. And I know you completed your goal from last week, which was to get signed up for the Empowered Podcasting Conference, which I know you did and convinced your husband. That's awesome.

50:15 Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for doing that. That's a win for me for sure. Alexandra, please share a win and a goal with us. OK so when is on the personal side I finally identified a part of the reason why I'm struggling to like actually get things done and why my mom and I because my mom and I have had this bone of contention between us about how she feels like I'm not doing my part. And I understand why she feels that way, but I was trying to understand why because I want to do things, but I can't physically make myself do it most of the time. And it's something called a dopamine deficiency. So with the help of my mom and ChatGPT, I've come up with a reward to your system so that for every task that I do complete, I get something.

51:09 So I actually was able to do like on Monday when we did it. My mom and I've been fighting for the last two weeks because I hadn't done the dishwasher. So I did. I finally loaded the dishwasher and so when my mom got home from work, we went to our favorite ice cream shop and I got ice cream. Then nice. I love it that that's one. That's one for me too. Ice cream is a motivator for me. And I finished and then I can't remember what my goal last week was. Mark, can you remind me please? Yeah, let's see. I think I have it here. Let's see. Did did ChatGPT fail me? I think it did fail me. I don't see it on the list here. Alexandra, I'll find out for you. It's OK, I'm going to finish my screenplay today because I have to have it in by 11:59 PM Eastern Standard Time in order to keep my table read on Tuesday. But for the screenplay that has yet to be finished but will be finished, I was talking to someone about it in a room on Clubhouse last week.

52:07 It's actually funny because I've been building this relationship with this person for like the last six months or something. And their cinematographer also noticed. And we were talking about when it comes to getting things done and hiring your cast and crew. Like, do you want to work with the person who has the better professional reputation or the person who has the best personal reputation? Like, do you want to work with the asshole who get shit done or do you want to work with the good guy who's willing to learn and be? And so I was asking this person who used to work on Key and Peele, is Jordan Peele, for example, like a really good person to work with? Or is he one of those egotistical assholes?

52:48 And he's like, no, he's actually really cool. He's like, why do you ask? And I'm like, well, I'm writing the script right now that I think he might like, but I would prefer to not have my first script be a, you know, have to work with an asshole. And he's like, well, he is a good person. Script sounds cool. Send me it when you're done and I'll work on it with you. When it's ready, I'll introduce you to Jordan Puke. Wow, that's a heck of a heck of a connection. Right. Yeah, very. Cool. And it was. And so I finally figured out also what my problem with pitching is. I don't have a problem pitching if it's a conversational type thing. I have a problem when it's like an actual like formal pitch session. Yeah, because there's a pressure and I don't like, and it's because of this whole, well, why would they want a Batman movie? It's not good enough thing.

53:39 Well, Alexandra, thank you for sharing all this. Congratulations on your wins and I'm I'm, I'm excited for you this, that last part of your share. That's pretty exciting as well. And there's something I just wrote down that I wanted to make sure hold on, give me a second because I really wanted to. There were two things. One was Yvonne. Oh, I did want to mention since she brought up Dominic and having him as a guest on her podcast. Dominic will be hosting next week. He will be leading the conversation. I believe it's next Wednesday. That could certainly change, but he is committed to hosting and we are going to do, and this is probably something Jackie, you may want to try to be a part of as well. He's going to host a room all around mental health.

54:22 And as some of you know, he's got he's got his new podcast coming out later this month all around mental health. So I thought how appropriate. Let's let's have him lead the charge and it's mental health awareness month this month as. Well, I will definitely be there. Yeah, great, great. I believe May 7th is when he wanted to to do this, so stay tuned and the gang will keep everyone posted all throughout next week and the week after. As far as the different topics and conversations. We're planning while I'm away so there will be rooms every day while I'm away. So the show must go on, as they say, Janae. So the mice won't be playing it with all the cats away. That's right, that's the mice will be playing, that's for sure.

55:06 Janae, good morning again. Please share a win and a goal with us. Good morning. Thanks Joanne for sharing that you had a awesome guest on the show that reminded me of my wind. I had three amazing guests this week. Filmer Shawn wrote the book Unforgettable. He writes books about events. He's been running the social media marketing world event for the past 11 plus years. So he's a guest, shared some really cool things. I also had Justin Moore of the book sponsor Magnet, and I know we talked about sponsorship a lot earlier in the weeks. And so that would be a really great book for anybody to read.

55:48 And the podcast is going to come out, you know, in a few weeks. That was an amazing conversation. He kind of blew my mind because I'd never thought about bringing sponsorship to my show. And he's like, here's how you like pick a name. And he gave me a live example and it's just blew my mind. I've heard a lot of good things about Justin, my friend, and I'm sure you know Anna Xavier and she had him on her show as well. And she was telling me, Mark, you got to get him on the podcasting morning check because I think he'll, he'll have a lot of value for this community. He's going to crush it. And the last one was Qasim Taslam. He's a 7-8 figure exit serial entrepreneur. Give me really amazing advice and about letting go. That's something that we have really hard trouble as podcasters is letting go of the different aspects of podcasting like production production, like there's so many different elements and so he talked some really cool things some other wins outside of the podcast around the business space is been getting a lot of referrals for people with their home studio help and I'm like wow, I've maybe I've arrived, maybe I still have ways to go.

57:01 So that was a, I felt like a really great win and where I'm going. And the goal for next week is to continue putting the word out and continue to teach and inspire people about home studios. Thanks so much. You're welcome, Janae. And yeah, I, I I'm in the camp. Yes. That you have arrived. I and I, I want to stop just for a second to say, you know, I see you Janae and you are making your rounds through all different podcasting communities and really showing up for those communities wherever you go. I, you, you pour in value, you participate especially here in our conversations, but I see you on social media on different, in different groups pouring in that value.

57:50 So I am not surprised whatsoever to hear that you're getting lots of referrals these days. This is what it's all about. It's putting in. That's that why we talk about consistency and you are certainly showing up constantly consistently for other people. So it's very cool to see that it's being repaid and now you're getting those referrals. Congratulations, Janae. Thanks so much, Freddie. You're welcome, Billy. Go for it. A win and a goal please. So my win is we have signed up lease on a property in Puerto Rico as of yesterday, I think officially. So that was and it, it was a long drawn out process, but it was the first house we looked at. We fell in love with it, had a line of like 10 people and then we gave up on it and we were looking at some other properties and then they called us back and said, hey, actually it is available and you're the next on the list. Nice.

58:47 Don't know what happened in those two weeks, but we we solidified that. So my goal is just to continue the moving process and try to rest. I'm exhausted, but I'm going to try to make it happen. Hey, Billy. Your life sounds like what is it international? What is it? House Hunters International and you said that I don't know why he's. A If he's a content creator and he's a graphic artist, they. Want a property for only one? $1000 a month. Congratulations. If I had a dollar for every time I've heard that exact line in the last two weeks that we've been doing this process, I would I would take us all out on a private yacht fast.

59:34 Cubans. Yeah. And I always thought I was saying original. That and more will be next week when Mark is gone. That's right. Oh, boy. That's right. Well, congratulations, Billy, the awesome to hear. And yeah, it sounds like you also accomplished your goal for the week because last week you said you want to survive the moving process and continue moving the needle forward. Sounds like you did that. Congratulations there. All right, we're going to do rapid fire. I will wrap up with some heartfelt winds of my own. And a goal maybe as well. But first I'm just going to ask rapid fire to our team, Dr. Ashley, Amanda, Sid and Alex just share some wins, a win with us. And if you want to share a goal for your week, go ahead and do that and then just pass the baton to the person next to you on stage.

1:00:18 Go ahead, Dr. OK, so my win for the week is that I did a presentation in a a community of a female entrepreneurship community yesterday with like 24 slides a whole bit. It was a smashing success. I was so proud of myself. And then the goal for next week is, of course, to smash it as a host of the podcasting morning chat. Thank you, Dr. Go ahead, Ashley. Awesome Dr. Win for this week. I had kind of a tough week. I made it through. I'm still here, so that's the win for the week. Goal for the upcoming week is to refresh my creative space.

1:01:01 It is totally out of control. There are guitars everywhere, there's banjos everywhere, there's cables everywhere, there's lights everywhere. It needs a refresh. So that's the goal, to get that done. Awesome. Congratulations. Go ahead, Amanda. My win for the week is Chris and I exceeded 100,000 audio downloads for our podcast and that just felt really good. I mean, it took a long time to get there. I don't know if that's normal or not, but it just felt really, really good to be able to hit that milestone and and celebrate it this week, Sid. So I have a couple of wins for the week. My son is home for the summer, got home last night, which is great to have him home. And he enjoyed telling me all about his summer job last night and what he's going to be doing and how much money he's going to be making.

1:01:45 So I, yeah, that was actually really nice. My second win is that some of you may have seen my daughter has been accepted to the Vogue College of Fashion to do her master's degree in London. So she is moving in early September across the pond. So it's super exciting, but also a little bit emotional and sad at the same time. But we're super excited about her and her journey and where she's headed. And I did not get my goal done from last week. I'm actually, I guess I could say I did. I'm doing it today. So writing my article, which is due today, I'm writing it today. And my goals for next week include journaling.

1:02:26 I, for whatever reason, just in April quit journaling for like 3 weeks and I journaled yesterday. I thought, OK, today's May the 1st, I'm going to start out the month right? So I have a goal to continue daily journaling and then my second one would be to get 3 new guests for my podcasts lined up and scheduled recordings. So with that. Alex Baelish, go for it. Yes, I got a phone call from Jr. who's on The Who comes in here, and I'm going to be a guest on his show. That was kind of a huge win. And on another note, Lucy had her first lacrosse game, which took about a year to get done because to set up a nonprofit and it's been a whole town wide thing.

1:03:08 Goals for next week is just to help post and maybe do a couple episodes. Awesome. Thank you Alex, and thank you to all of our team for sharing your goals and wins from this week. For me, clearly the completion of my Improv One O 1 classes with a showcase, that was a huge win for me. I am still riding high on that. Really glad I did it. I really, I've rediscovered my love for being on a stage in that capacity and look looking forward to continuing that. Another win is, well, my win will be that I'm going to be packed for my trip to Europe.

1:03:50 I have not packed yet and I'm supposed to leave town today for DC and then fly out on Monday. So wish me luck there. But I will get that done. And I will say that probably my biggest win this week and I was acknowledging it last night with my to my wife. What an awesome, amazing group of people that I have surrounding me on the podcasting morning chat. The, the, the leadership team here is happily taking the reins and making, I'll just, I don't care making shit happen. I helped get that ball rolling by asking for help and I set up a a schedule based on people's availability. And I know now that behind the scenes, everyone's just running with it, planning it, really putting a lot of love, thought and care into the next two weeks of shows. And I am eternally grateful not just for that, but for the ongoing support of this leadership team. You don't have to do this.

1:04:52 You don't have to be here, yet you continue to do so. And that means everything to me. So thank you. I am thrilled to be taking this break and knowing that I have more than capable people taking it over as I brush this tear off my face. Thank you thank you all really means the world keep keep things going and I will absolutely pop in on occasion when I can just to say hello not to take over but just to pop in and say hi cuz I will miss all of you dearly while I'm gone so with. You know, Mark, you can, you can always just take us with you just like put us in the, you can put us in in your suitcase, no problem.

1:05:44 I'm just putting that out. Sure, if you can make it here to Asheville before I leave town, then you I'll squeeze. Dude I'm like 2 hours away like I got. You OK? We can try it. All right, gang, thank you again for another awesome week of conversations. Looking forward to hearing what you all do in the next two weeks. By the way, maybe somebody wants to connect with with Janae and see if maybe he can connect us with Justin Moore and maybe we can get him to come in while I'm gone. Who's to say we couldn't make that happen? So think about that too. Well, I want to shout out to Janae real quick. We're having the monetization podcast on Monday, Janae, So be sure that you're here on Monday because we're going to be talking all about monetization.

1:06:25 Awesome. Very cool. There you go. There Are we going to have another sit in Billy? Are we going to have another sit in Billy take over during this two week? We tried. We tried, but I think Billy's got a busy schedule as he's just shared. So I'm not sure. But if it can happen, I'd love it. All right. Now. Billy. He's got the Boris. Now that he's an international superstar, there you go. All right, I got to go get to packing. I got to go have some breakfast before I do that. So until Monday for for most of you, and until May 19th, whatever that Monday is, make it a great weekend. Everybody take care.