Building a Stronger Podcast Through Authenticity

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Rich: Today we're bringing you

another special Friday

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presentation of Empowered

Podcasting Live, the weekly live

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stream I host with Jason Circon
and Rich Perry.

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In this episode, we're joined by
Jessica
Schiller, founder of

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Mosen Wellness, host of the
Alive
podcast and one of our

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featured workshop speakers at
the
Empowered Podcasting

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Conference next month.
Jessica believes the
energy

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behind your voice can shape how
people experience your
podcast

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long before they fully process
your words.

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We talk
about what listeners
can sense through a microphone

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or a
camera, why a creator can
follow every recommended

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strategy and
still sound
guarded or disconnected, and how

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comparison, anxiety, and
constant exposure to other


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creators can affect the way you
show up.

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We also explore the

relationship between mindset,

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authenticity, AI, nervous system

regulation, and the deeper

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connection podcasters build with

their audiences.

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And now here's our conversation
with Jessica
Schiller on

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Empowered Podcasting Live.
Hey, welcome everybody to


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Empowered Podcasting Live, your
weekly show brought to you by


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the Empowered Podcasting Team,
discussing all things empowered

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podcasting, the conference
speakers, sponsors, everything


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you need to know, and we are
joined today by one of our


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featured workshop speakers,
Jessica Schiller.

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What's going
on, Jessica?
Jessica Schiller: Not much, and

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creative Rich: partner,
creative partner
as well,

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partner and creator partner
Jessica Schiller: CP.

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Yes, and Rich: before before we
get into
our featured guest,

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Mark, what's going on, my man?
How does it
feel to give up

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the reins just or or as I say,
the helm?

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You
know, captain of the ship
today, Rich Perry in full

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effect.
How
does it feel, my man?

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Honestly, it feels relieving,

you know, doing the morning show

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every day, and then this once a
week, and now on top of that, I

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got a shot yesterday that's kind

of making me feel a little

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loopy today.
So it's a welcomed thing.


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Have at it, my friends and
folks.

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If you see his face
drooping a
little bit, feel free to bust

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his chops in the chat.

Have at it, Rich.

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I should tell you that our

chat here is not working.

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So if people are chatting to us
on,
say, YouTube or LinkedIn,

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we're not seeing it for some
reason.

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Gotcha.
Okay.

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So, folks, we are
not ignoring
you, but feel free to self

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moderate and hype it up
as
best you possibly can.

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We'll be joined by Jason Circon
in
just a little bit.

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He's putting out some fires, but
that's okay.


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Mark and I are here, and as I
mentioned before, we are joined

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by the very lovely Jessica
Schiller, one of our featured


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workshop speakers and creator
partner extraordinaire Jessica,

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full welcome.
How are you doing today, my

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friend?
Jessica Schiller: Well, thank


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you, thank you for the grand
welcome.

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And don't worry, Mark,
I'm
always a little bit loopy, so

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totally in my energy.
Rich: Yeah, well, I've gotten to

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know you over the past few
months because we officially met

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at Podfest.
I guess we met like leading up

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to Podfest, but Jessica
Schiller: I think PC
last

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year.
Yes, Rich: but like Podfest

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really
kind of solidified it.
I feel like for us, that's where

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we
really got to know each
other and hang out a bunch.

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And Jessica Schiller: yes, Rich:
yeah, I mean we both can
be a

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little loopy once in a while.
I think that goes with
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whole when we're energetically
sensitive.

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That
comes with the territory
sometimes.

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Jessica Schiller: It's par for

the course.

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Rich: Yes, Jessica Schiller:
yes, yes.

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Rich: All right, so Jessica,

let's kind of dive in real

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quick.
But for the folks that
don't

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know you, I know that you
recently launched another brand.

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But for the purpose of our

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initial conversation, because

this is the brand you'll be

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representing at Empowered

Podcasting, tell us a little bit

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about Mozan Wellness and what it

is that you do as a coach, as

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a facilitator.
Jessica Schiller: Yeah, well,


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thank you.
So, Mosen Wellness has been my

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brand for over a
decade now.
Feels wild to say, but I've been

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doing this for 11
plus years
after leaving my corporate past.

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I was in
corporate finance for
about 15 years before that, I

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know I look
young, but not as
young as I look.

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I had a corporate life and

corporate finance wasn't my jam.

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That's sort of the tagline of

you know my initial podcast.

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I stepped away from a six figure

income to start my own

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venture, and that was the irony:
is that
in my corporate past,

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I was a venture capital finance
manager,
right?

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Basically funding other people's
investments, and I used
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at my desk every single day, and
I would dream, and I
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notebook.
Like whenever I had anxiety, I

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was just like
literally felt
dead inside, which is why my

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podcast is
called Alive
because I know what it feels

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like to be in
opposition, and.
I dreamed of what that would

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look like, and
so Mozan
Wellness was born initially from

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that place.
The
brand has evolved three

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times since its inception back
in
2015.

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It started simply as health and
wellness, weight loss
coaching

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was getting you know shedding
weight for my wedding
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Then it evolved into lots of
women as I was showing
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online in my authenticity and my
energy, asking, "Well, how
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initial entrepreneurs, online
entrepreneurs.

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Like I was using
Zoom before
it was really a thing, and women

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were coming to
me like, "How
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your brand?
And the
number one compliment

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that I always got, which then I
didn't
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Now I do.
Is I love your energy, and

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people Rich: you didn't like
that at
first?

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Jessica Schiller: No, why not?

No, because I was like, I'm so

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much more than that.
Even though
having beautiful

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energy is a beautiful thing at
the time, you
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still one foot, maybe two feet,
still in my
corporate past.

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Like that's not good enough,
right?

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Like you
need to have
expertise and strategy, right?

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And all the
things that the
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in that realm.

Like I worked in corporate

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finance, I wasn't a wellness

guru other than my own personal

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story, and I was always like,

"Is that enough?

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But then I had women coming to
me 234, years
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business, saying, "Well, how are
you showing up online
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and it's drawing in customers
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And then in 2020,
the pandemic
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and lived
through.
And my podcast was born.

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That's also the year that
I
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of my own darkness of like I

wanted to write a book.

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I'm a writer by heart.
Actually, most
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know that about me, even though
I get that
compliment a lot

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online, as far as my writing
style and how I
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in my writing.
But I never thought of myself as

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a speaker, and I'll never
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And I say this all the
time at
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What Chris Kramitso said to me
in one of
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calls, he was like, "Oh, you're
a
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Like he literally planted those
words in
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forgot that because I never
thought of
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speaker, always a writer.
So, 2020, my podcast was
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born, and then it evolved more
into mental wellness.

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Again,
born out of my own
journey into like, hey, beyond

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the weight
loss and the
health, right?

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That's there's a psychology

behind it, and that's what I

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always spoke to.
I'm gonna tap
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psychology, like what's keeping
people stuck from
whatever it

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is they want to right succeed in
life, whether
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loss, whether that's better
relationships,
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living in their purpose, whether
that's
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right to spirit, to God,
whatever
everybody has, right

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to be a better mom, to be a
better
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really, to me, is the secret
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As the
great Einstein says,
energy is everything, and so I

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kind of
morphed both worlds of
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Of
course, you know, knowing
the fundamentals of holistic

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living
into Mosen Wellness,
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The integrated brand, which is
where
mental wellness, right,

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trauma is at the core of
literally all
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and how we move in the world,
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energy.
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science and spirituality, which
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bring to UPC as well in my talk.
Rich: I would love to jump in


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here and just get real quickly
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because look, the stuff that
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energetically speaking, and you
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and using that authenticity to
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stuff-I could talk about that
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I love
talking about that
stuff, and it's something.

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It's an area
that I often, as
a podcast, will call myself

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teacher for now.
As
a podcast teacher, somebody

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who helps people with
podcasting, I
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like if I lead with that stuff,
people are just
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of go look elsewhere because I
feel like a
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creators, I feel like they're
looking for the
magic pill,

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the magic answer, and it's and
they always think
it's around

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tools or techniques, and I think
that magic pill
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you're talking about.
Jessica Schiller: I was going to

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say this is the magic pill,
and that's actually what I'm

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going
to introduce at your
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That it is not just woo.
There
is actual tactile,

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tangible tools that you can use
to tap
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I do this work every single day.
I spent an hour and a half
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so this morning before hopping
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frequency, right, and the
vibration.

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A podcast is a
frequency,
right?

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FM, right?
AM, FM, and we don't often think

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about how we're coming across
through our microphone, through

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our voice, through our tone,
through our.

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Cadence, right?

Really, through our energy, we

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don't think about the energetics

behind the message, and really

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how we show up in the world and
the impact that we can make

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through that through our voice.
Rich: Very cool.

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I love that,
and I'm excited
that you're bringing that to

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EPC.
We had a
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from our old friend Jana Swan
last year, and
I love that

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we're going to have some fresh
blood taking it from
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angle this year.
That's very cool.

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By the way, welcome
to Jason
Circon, who's joined us as well.

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Hey, Jason.
Jason: Yeah, what's up, Pod?

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Marc Ronick: Go ahead, Rich.
Jason: Apologies for my


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tardiness.
Marc Ronick: That's okay, Jason.

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Rich: No, it's fine.
It's fine.


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You'll be docked pay, but you
know Jason: that sounds about

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right.

Rich is such a hard ass to word

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for.
Rich: All right, Jessica, you


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say that energy rather than
strategy defines impact.

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How
does a listener experience
that energy when they can only

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hear
someone's voice or watch
them through a screen?

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What are your
thoughts on
that?

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Jessica Schiller: Yeah.
So
really, when I listen, and

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I'm just going to use my own

personal experience, and then

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everyone listening can kind of

connect in their own way.

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When I press play, because I was
a
listener before I was a

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podcaster, when I press play,

that first-and I don't know if

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there are studies done on this,
but I would beg to differ-that

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the first minute or so really

determines whether somebody

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continues to listen or not.
Not
the tag.

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I mean, the tagline is what
brings them in, but your


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energy is what keeps people in
the door for that length of the

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episode, and your energy is
what keeps people continuing to

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listen to your podcast.
That's why, yes, good content,

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right?
A
tagline, algorithm, all of

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that can bring people in.
It's sort
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Instagram, the difference
between stories and
posts.

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Right, posts bring in fresh
blood, fresh listeners
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they right based on the
algorithm.

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But then your stories
are
where you can continue to share

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your lifestyle, your
brand.
Right, and podcasting, we want

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people for the long haul.

Right, it's not a quick hit.

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As same within our business,
right?


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So I attract customers through
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understand that being and
listening on my podcast, we're


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going to go on a journey.
Like I can talk on a solo

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episode for
maybe an hour plus
hour and a half at times, right?

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But they
know that we're in it
for the long haul.

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Like I take people on
a
journey, not a quick hit, not a

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quick pill, right?
But that's
not to say that

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there aren't tools that can
bring people in,
right?

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There is a physicality and a
tangible way to project
energy

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as well.
But to me, it's not only about

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the voice; like
it's a felt
sense in the spiritual world,

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they call it
the five clears,
and it's a term called felt

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sense,
clairsentience, right?
And that is what, to me, keeps

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people
listening-the energy,
not the strategy, right?

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Because even,
for instance, on
your conference or any like

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online, like I
listened to
Podfest AI conference, I believe

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it was
like a couple of months
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Marc Ronick: Yes, Jessica
Schiller: and I I sign
up for

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sessions based on the title, but
within the first like
two or

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three minutes, I could tell if I
was going to be
engaged for

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the remainder of the session,
right?

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If I'm going to
subscribe
mentally, and I feel like that's

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what happens a lot
in
podcasting, right?

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And so if you don't feel like
you're
getting not only the

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number of people, right?
So my mo, and I
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how you and I, right, connected,
Mark, is it's
not about the

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number, and you said this at
your session, not
about the

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number of people in your
community.

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It's the the
connectedness,
right?

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It's how people feel when
they're in your
community.

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It's about having that intimate,
tight knit place
where people

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feel seen, heard, that they
belong, really above
all else.

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And so, if you can do that in
every single episode and
how

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you show up, right?
The messaging is kind of the

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secret
sauce that brings
people in the door, kind of like

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Trader Joe's
with their fun
new products, right?

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They bring they bring you
in
the door, or their lead-ons,

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right?
They sell their eggs for
super

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dirt cheap, but that's the I
think they call them like lost


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leaders or something in the
grocery business.

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My husband
works in groceries,
so that's why I'm using a

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grocery analogy.

My ex-husband, I should say,

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that brings you in the door.
But
what keeps you in, right,

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is the energy of Trader Joe's.
It's the
fun, innovative

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products.
It's the energy of the people

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and the
fun, you know, outfits
they wear.

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It's the customer service,

right?

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When you come to the register,
podcasting.

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It's
everything is energy, and
I'm using a really simple

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example to
explain something
that is actually much more

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nuanced and
complex.
But it also doesn't have to be.

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Rich: Yeah, yeah.
So podcasters
spend a lot of

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time, like I was saying,
thinking about the
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the formats, the hooks, the
equipment, the
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aspects, growing their shows.
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What happens
when someone
follows all of those recommended

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strategies,
but their voice
still feels guarded or forced or

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disconnected?
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people.
Can feel that, right?

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Like that's my point: is that

energy versus strategy, right?

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Like, for instance, if someone

doesn't come prepared, and this

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has happened to me many times in

speaking on stages where I

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felt anxious, right?
People can feel
that in the

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audience, right?
Someone can feel if your energy

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scattered in a million places
because of anxiety, and it might

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not be your true self, right?
All these energies, and in the


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trauma world, we call it parts
work, right?

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We all have
different parts
within us, but if we truly want

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to show up in a
way that's not
only our authentic self, I think

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authentic can be very buzzy,
but I think ourselves that are

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true
at our core, right, of
how we want to come across in

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our, and
I'm trying not to get
too woo woo.

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You guys, that's okay.
Marc Ronick: You can get woo


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woo.
This is your wheelhouse.

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Jessica Schiller: I tend to live

in alternate universes and

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realms, but for instance, with

my clients, I use a lot of

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tools, right, like astrology,

like human design.

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We call it your divine design,
right, and
that's how, in

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human design, for instance,
there's two
blueprints.

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There's one the day you were
born, so it's a
snapshot, and

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then one three months you were
born when you
were conceived

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in the womb.
What was happening in the

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universe,
in the cosmos?
Where were the planets?

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Where were the
transits?
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That's why one of my favorite
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this because it really explains
it well.

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I think again by the
great
Albert Einstein is energy cannot

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be created or destroyed;
it
can only be changed from one

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form to another.
Meaning, right?


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The strategy is we're trying to
create, and actually, what we're

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doing is we're mimicking.
We're learning someone else's


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strategy, right?
And we're projecting that

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forward.
When
you learn your own

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energetic blueprint, that's
probably a
better word for it.

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You come across in your own
energy.


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You're not concerned, right?
You can learn the strategy.

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Trust
me, I learn.
I love AI, but with the rise of

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AI, we don't even
know what's
real sometimes.

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Like I'm going to be honest and
give
you kind of a funny but

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not funny story.
So I'm divorced,
getting

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divorced.
You know, kind of fresh on the

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dating apps.
I
kid you not.

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I was talking to someone
yesterday.

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I don't know
if they're real,
they're a bot, what it,

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whatever.
They were
Chat GPTing me, and

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I know that.
Like at first, oh, this sounds


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really nice, and then I reread
it, and I was like, whoa, like


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this is not even a real person,
right?

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And now they have faux

podcasts, right?

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There's AI podcasts.
So how are we?

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And
that's why the title,
right, is called "In the Golden

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Age of
Podcasting.
What is the golden age?

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It's where this reigns

supreme, right?

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Where you don't have to worry,
Mark, about
talking about

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energy in a room because that's
going to be the
mo.

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That's going to be what people
are talking about over
the old

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world, right?
Which is all about strategy and

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really
everyone mimicking
everyone else's thing, right?

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Here's my
five-step formula,
right?

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No offense to that, but that

five-step formula may not work

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for me if it's not aligned with
my energetic frequency, right?

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And then if I'm using your

strategy mark per se, right?

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Then I'm speaking in the

frequency of you and not me.

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And I think maybe not initially,
but
people I can pick up on

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that, right?
Us highly sensitive, we
can

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pick up on that.
And the golden age is sort of a

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calling,
right, of this new
movement for people to

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understand that it's
not one
or the other; it's actually

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both, and that's why I
say I
use the science, which is that

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old world, right?
That
people want tangible

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proof that this works, but
really, what is
science,

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right?
Like, for instance, Nikola Tesla

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and
Albert Einstein and all
these creators, right?

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Edison, nobody
knew about what
they created before they created

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it.
Right.


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Correct.
Nobody knew, and that's what

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always blows my mind.
Is
like people say, "Oh, well,

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that doesn't work until it's
proven.


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But there has to be someone,
right, that's speaking something

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that no one else is speaking
about, because that's where


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creation is really born-not from
copying someone else's formula,

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not from using right all the AI
tools.

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Like, and trust me, I'm a
fan.
But I program my AI to be the

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energetic frequency of me.
I
re, I read, I reread.

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If it doesn't sound or feel like
me, I
don't put it forward.

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Marc Ronick: Yeah, Jessica
Schiller: and I use it
more

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for graphics anyway because I'm
a writer, and I feel like


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that's just robbing myself of my
own potentiality.

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Rich: Yeah, it's funny because

we hear like some of the things

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that you're saying right now,

talking about energy and

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frequency.
But when you, you
know, and I

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can see that if some people hear
that and they say,
"Oh,

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they're getting too woo, but if
you really listen to the


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things that Jessica's saying
right now, this is all stuff


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that like we talk about on the
morning show.

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I've heard Jason
and Rich talk
about in different

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conversations.
Like these are
you can call it

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energy if you want, but you know
however you
call it, really

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pay attention to the details of
what Jessica's
talking about

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here because there's a a ton of
valuable
stuff that you can

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walk away with for.
Sure, and I will hand
the

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baton back over to Rich or Jason
and let you guys chime in


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here.
Yeah, I had a follow up.


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Actually, it's not a follow up
question.

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It's I want to bring
the
conversation back up a little

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bit, and then we'll see
what
Jason's brewing over there.

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Jessica, I'm just curious, you

know, because maybe some of our

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listeners or viewers are

wondering right now, you had

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mentioned before that you came

from a corporate world, right?

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And you also said you were in

finance, which, like, sometimes

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people in the finance world are
very data driven.

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Jessica Schiller: Yeah, right.
Rich: You know, little firm.

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You
know, not as warm and
fuzzy and stuff like that.

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Not saying
everybody, but just
saying, right?

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Not not you, Ralph.
Not
you, if you're because I

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know Ralph is listening right
now.

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What I'm getting to is, like,

did you find your new path after

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that experience, or was this

something you were always

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interested in, and maybe always
learning about it, and then

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finally decided to, you know,

spread those wings?

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Like, tell us a little bit about
your how
you found this.

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Jessica Schiller: Yeah, yeah,

that's actually a really, really

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great question because I think

if you had asked me this when I

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first started my business, I

would have given you the logical

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linear answer: is that my last

corporate job was sort of that

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catalyst of like I felt like I

died and I didn't want to die

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anymore, you know, and that's

why I created the Alive podcast.

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Like I literally sat at my desk
every single day had massive

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panic attacks.
Felt so out of my
own body.

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Used to cry in the car on the
way.

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Podcasting is
actually was my
saving grace, and that's why

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I've spoke a lot
in talks
where I do say podcasting saved

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my life because
it really did.
Like I literally was like, if

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this is life and
not to be
morbid, that's why I work in

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mental health.
I don't
want to be here.

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If a nine to five, or I worked
in the public
accounting world

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as well in busy season, nine to
two a.m.

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Like
I've worked in all those
realms, I was like, if this is

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what life
is, where I'm just
going to work and sell my soul

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to make a
paycheck, I'm not
about that, right?

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That's what I would have
told
you 11 years ago.

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However, in doing a lot of the
soul work
and a lot of what I

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do with my clients, right, and
every day in
not only trauma

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recovery but recovery from
chronic stress and
burnout,

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which I think we all are
experiencing as a collective


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00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:37,925
now, especially since 2020 and
the rise of AI and technology,


434
00:22:37,933 --> 00:22:41,099
we are extremely distracted.
We don't even know if our voice

435
00:22:41,099 --> 00:22:43,680
is
our own, or who right who
we truly are.

436
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,120
And I don't even mean
AI
copying our voice.

437
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:49,558
I mean when we actually speak,
where
does that come from?

438
00:22:49,558 --> 00:22:51,796
Does that come from our
childlike self?


439
00:22:51,804 --> 00:22:55,613
Does that come from a parent?
Does that come from a kid at


440
00:22:55,621 --> 00:22:57,239
school?
Right, that gave us that

441
00:22:57,297 --> 00:22:59,979
specific narrative.
Right, and
that's a lot of

442
00:22:59,979 --> 00:23:02,702
inner child therapy.
But where did this come
from?

443
00:23:02,702 --> 00:23:06,042
And again, out of kind of
studying my own journey now,


444
00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:08,551
I've realized that I was always
this way.

445
00:23:08,551 --> 00:23:12,451
Like for instance, as
a kid, I
was very creative, and a lot of

446
00:23:12,451 --> 00:23:15,357
this was born out of
feeling
so different that I couldn't

447
00:23:15,357 --> 00:23:17,249
really connect with
kids in
school.

448
00:23:17,249 --> 00:23:21,050
That when I was alone, I was so
creative that I
would create

449
00:23:21,050 --> 00:23:24,301
like my own dance school, and I
would like create
these

450
00:23:24,301 --> 00:23:26,776
stories.
Like I had, and I'm talking like

451
00:23:26,776 --> 00:23:29,938
a really little
girl.
I had this dollhouse with these

452
00:23:29,938 --> 00:23:33,581
little miniature figures,
and
it would almost look like a real

453
00:23:33,581 --> 00:23:36,064
house that my parents had

custom made for me.

454
00:23:36,064 --> 00:23:39,470
And I would create these lavish
stories of
this family that

455
00:23:39,470 --> 00:23:42,698
lived in the home, right?
And really just
connect to

456
00:23:42,698 --> 00:23:44,687
that.
Like I've always been a

457
00:23:44,687 --> 00:23:47,639
storyteller, and I
always
sensed and felt things from

458
00:23:47,639 --> 00:23:49,951
another realm.
I always
talked to God, right?

459
00:23:49,951 --> 00:23:52,776
Even as a child, I used to talk
to God.


460
00:23:52,784 --> 00:23:55,827
Like, where did that come from?
As a kid, we don't know.

461
00:23:55,827 --> 00:23:59,340
But
now, when I look back at a
lot of those habits and

462
00:23:59,340 --> 00:24:01,101
patterns, I
felt emotionally
neglected.

463
00:24:01,101 --> 00:24:03,849
I didn't feel seen, heard, or

understood, right?

464
00:24:03,849 --> 00:24:07,392
So we fantasize, we sort of
create our
own reality, which

465
00:24:07,392 --> 00:24:10,741
in the modern day we'd call like
visualization
or

466
00:24:10,741 --> 00:24:13,461
manifestation, right?
But that's sort of where it was

467
00:24:13,461 --> 00:24:15,819
born.
So I think I was born into that,

468
00:24:15,819 --> 00:24:18,064
you know.
Again, from my
own trauma,

469
00:24:18,064 --> 00:24:20,481
right?
From again, and no shame to my

470
00:24:20,481 --> 00:24:22,434
parents.
You
know, my parents came from

471
00:24:22,492 --> 00:24:25,128
survival mode.
They were post
World War II

472
00:24:25,128 --> 00:24:27,000
children.
They didn't know their primary

473
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,312
goal.

My mom even tells me to this

474
00:24:29,370 --> 00:24:32,016
day, like I didn't have time to
self actualize.

475
00:24:32,016 --> 00:24:35,473
I didn't have time to figure out
who my true
self was, right?

476
00:24:35,473 --> 00:24:38,889
Or to live my greatest passion.
Like she got
married at a

477
00:24:38,889 --> 00:24:41,508
young age and was like, "You're
a mother.

478
00:24:41,508 --> 00:24:43,588
You
provide.nThat was her sole
goal.

479
00:24:43,646 --> 00:24:46,247
Survival mode.
And so many of us
still live

480
00:24:46,247 --> 00:24:49,575
in that survival mode, and my
goal is to help
people not

481
00:24:49,575 --> 00:24:53,126
only break the cycle of their
own lineage and
childhood or

482
00:24:53,126 --> 00:24:56,345
whatever trauma, but to be able
to transmute the
you that that

483
00:24:56,345 --> 00:24:59,484
was meant to be in the world
before right everybody
else

484
00:24:59,484 --> 00:25:02,971
told you who you were.
And I could go on, but also Marc

485
00:25:02,971 --> 00:25:05,230
Ronick: yeah, yeah.
And
that's why you will be

486
00:25:05,230 --> 00:25:08,327
speaking at EPC three to share,
and
you'll have more

487
00:25:08,327 --> 00:25:11,728
opportunity to go on there and
get really deep
into this for

488
00:25:11,728 --> 00:25:12,926
sure.
Jessica Schiller: Yeah, yeah,


489
00:25:12,934 --> 00:25:13,860
yeah.
I won't go deep into like

490
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,070
divination and all of that

stuff, but into into all the

491
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:19,250
spiritual rabbit holes that I've

gone down.

492
00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:21,652
But I feel like I've always had
this power.

493
00:25:21,652 --> 00:25:25,139
I just
didn't know Rich: it.
Yeah, yeah, that's
fair, Jason

494
00:25:25,139 --> 00:25:27,702
Rich.
You want to chime in, Jason?

495
00:25:27,702 --> 00:25:29,954
Why don't you?
You've
been pretty quiet.

496
00:25:29,954 --> 00:25:32,150
Let's once you hop in here and
get on.

497
00:25:32,150 --> 00:25:34,544
Jason: Hard to get a word in

with you guys.

498
00:25:34,544 --> 00:25:37,423
I've just been sitting back and
taking it all
in.

499
00:25:37,423 --> 00:25:41,014
I apologize because I do need to
go backwards for a
minute.

500
00:25:41,014 --> 00:25:44,928
I got off those dating apps like
10 years ago, and boy,
what

501
00:25:44,928 --> 00:25:48,320
you're saying is even more proof
that was the right move.

502
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,748
Jessica Schiller: Yeah, Jason:
we could talk about this
off

503
00:25:50,748 --> 00:25:53,014
the mic.
What is the benefit of trying to

504
00:25:53,014 --> 00:25:56,394
use ChatGPT on a
dating app?
But that's neither here nor

505
00:25:56,394 --> 00:25:58,120
there.
The question I
really want to

506
00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:01,932
ask is more of a crossover
between strategy and
energy

507
00:26:01,932 --> 00:26:06,170
and mindset, and that's how I've
usually defined it when
I talk

508
00:26:06,170 --> 00:26:09,300
to podcasters about the energy,
as you're putting it,
Jessica.

509
00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:13,215
I think of it from this level of
having the right
mindset and

510
00:26:13,215 --> 00:26:17,630
bringing it into play.
I feel that it is really
step

511
00:26:17,630 --> 00:26:22,219
one in an overall strategy.
So, in what and that's where I


512
00:26:22,227 --> 00:26:25,885
think I think there's parallels
and maybe even some unparallels

513
00:26:25,885 --> 00:26:30,770
in what we do you and I
separately, but in your


514
00:26:30,778 --> 00:26:33,596
teachings and working in
podcasting, all the things


515
00:26:33,604 --> 00:26:36,904
you've done, have you seen some
crossover between that mindset


516
00:26:36,912 --> 00:26:41,825
and energy side to how it helps
an actual strategy unfold and


517
00:26:41,833 --> 00:26:44,410
get executed.
Jessica Schiller: Yeah, 100% The

518
00:26:44,410 --> 00:26:47,752

energy again to me, the energy
is where like it all begins.


519
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,761
It's the root.
Energy drives mindset.

520
00:26:49,761 --> 00:26:53,573
Energy drives strategy,
right?
Because even when you're working

521
00:26:53,573 --> 00:26:57,082
on something tangibly,
you're
putting an energy into it.

522
00:26:57,082 --> 00:27:00,383
Like even right now on this

live, we're all putting forth

523
00:27:00,442 --> 00:27:03,291
our specific energies.
We're all
creating a

524
00:27:03,291 --> 00:27:06,776
collective energy, right?
Every single thing that
we

525
00:27:06,776 --> 00:27:09,709
touch-colors, sounds-like even
right now, you can't see on


526
00:27:09,717 --> 00:27:13,315
the other side of my computer.
But I've got lots of energies


527
00:27:13,323 --> 00:27:17,012
going right here because my hope
is that it's going to be


528
00:27:17,020 --> 00:27:19,824
broadcast through my voice
again, through my frequency,


529
00:27:19,832 --> 00:27:22,847
into everyone that touches the
show today, right?

530
00:27:22,847 --> 00:27:25,243
Or watches
the replay, right?
I've got.

531
00:27:25,302 --> 00:27:28,164
I'll just show you.
It's a 528
frequency, which is

532
00:27:28,164 --> 00:27:31,076
tuned to the universal
heartbeat, so that
transmutes

533
00:27:31,076 --> 00:27:32,858
the energy of.
Marc Ronick: What's that


534
00:27:32,866 --> 00:27:33,764
exactly?
Like you're showing me, but

535
00:27:33,764 --> 00:27:35,185
like, what is that?
Yeah, Jessica Schiller: I'll

536
00:27:35,185 --> 00:27:37,429
bring
this to EPC as well.
It's called a frequency

537
00:27:37,429 --> 00:27:39,739
transmitter.
So this
is a tune, right?

538
00:27:39,739 --> 00:27:42,757
The easiest way to explain it:
music is
frequency, right?

539
00:27:42,757 --> 00:27:45,647
Why is music so therapeutic?
It's attuned to
different

540
00:27:45,647 --> 00:27:47,859
frequencies, right?
You think of black keys versus


541
00:27:47,867 --> 00:27:50,481
the white keys, right?
Black is sort of deep, darker

542
00:27:50,481 --> 00:27:51,846
tones; they
evoke certain
emotions.

543
00:27:51,846 --> 00:27:54,240
The white keys, lighter, more

angelic tones.

544
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,983
But then there's specific
frequencies.

545
00:27:55,983 --> 00:27:59,226
So this is
520-eight which is
the love frequency.

546
00:27:59,226 --> 00:28:02,167
I also have one by my
bed for
grounding.

547
00:28:02,167 --> 00:28:04,117
That's more my barefoot golfer
realm.

548
00:28:04,117 --> 00:28:07,163
That's
the new brand that I'm
launching for grounding therapy.

549
00:28:07,163 --> 00:28:10,790
I also
have a grounding mat
that goes under my sheets, and

550
00:28:10,790 --> 00:28:13,792
that's
attuned to 432, which
is the called.

551
00:28:13,792 --> 00:28:17,009
And this is all science.

You can research it, ChatGPT it.

552
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:20,959
The Schumann resonance, and it's

basically so this is universal

553
00:28:21,019 --> 00:28:23,793
heartbeat, and it's transmitting

this frequency within a

554
00:28:23,793 --> 00:28:25,935
certain radius of this room.
So I
actually travel.

555
00:28:25,935 --> 00:28:29,341
I keep it in my kitchen.
I charge my liquids on
it.

556
00:28:29,341 --> 00:28:32,724
So my tea this morning was
actually charging on this plate.

557
00:28:32,724 --> 00:28:34,939


So the goal is when I drink this

558
00:28:35,059 --> 00:28:38,595
tea, I'm infusing that energy

into my body, right?

559
00:28:38,595 --> 00:28:41,807
Into my gut, right?
Into my psyche, into
my or

560
00:28:41,807 --> 00:28:45,909
like all of that, right?
And so mindset to answer your


561
00:28:45,917 --> 00:28:49,179
question, Jason, is very much a
part of it, right?

562
00:28:49,179 --> 00:28:52,627
Think of
athletes like golf.
That's why I got into the

563
00:28:52,627 --> 00:28:55,179
barefoot golfer.

It's a very complex sport, but

564
00:28:55,239 --> 00:28:58,419
what makes the difference

between number one golfer in the

565
00:28:58,449 --> 00:29:01,859
world, right, a Scottie

Shuffler, and right maybe bottom

566
00:29:01,889 --> 00:29:05,009
of the tour, or right, a

handicap golfer.

567
00:29:05,009 --> 00:29:09,924
Let's call it is mindset.
Jason: Me, Jessica Schiller:

568
00:29:09,924 --> 00:29:11,790
what's what's
between your two
ears, right?

569
00:29:11,910 --> 00:29:14,360
What are you saying?
Not only
what are you saying

570
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,280
to yourself, right?
The mindset, but also the


571
00:29:17,288 --> 00:29:18,780
energy.
The thoughts are energy.

572
00:29:19,710 --> 00:29:22,474
Mindset is energy.
The way you
feel?

573
00:29:22,474 --> 00:29:25,880
Is energy, right?
Every every single thing that we

574
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,115

touch, just look around your
room.

575
00:29:28,115 --> 00:29:31,580
Everything touch, hear,
feel,
see, experience, right?

576
00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:34,010
The five senses, and then

there's the right super

577
00:29:34,130 --> 00:29:36,890
conscious, which is the stuff we

can't see here, understand,

578
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,200
right?
Like God, but it's all
energy.

579
00:29:40,190 --> 00:29:44,230
Rich: We have a question from

our title sponsor, Ralph Eastep

580
00:29:44,650 --> 00:29:46,250
of the Content Creators

Accountant.

581
00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:49,033
He just texted.
Oh, I mean, he said, "Oh, okay.

582
00:29:49,033 --> 00:29:50,889
I was going to
say he just
texted me.

583
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,876
He texted you.
Marc Ronick: Yes, and he's


584
00:29:53,884 --> 00:29:57,745
asking about which I knew the
answer to, but I figured if he's

585
00:29:57,745 --> 00:30:00,606

asking, maybe somebody else is
asking as well.

586
00:30:00,606 --> 00:30:02,880
He's curious
about.
Your 333 necklace.

587
00:30:03,210 --> 00:30:05,070
Jessica Schiller: Oh well, thank

you because that is energy as

588
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,050
well.
So I'll give the short
answer,

589
00:30:08,050 --> 00:30:13,302
not the long answer.
So 333 is an angel number, but


590
00:30:13,310 --> 00:30:15,698
specifically, it's personal to
me.

591
00:30:15,698 --> 00:30:18,478
How much of my story do I
want
to tell?

592
00:30:18,478 --> 00:30:21,278
Okay, so three is my number.
It's my mother's
birthday, so

593
00:30:21,278 --> 00:30:25,425
she was born on three three.
My father had two
brothers

594
00:30:25,425 --> 00:30:30,720
that passed away when I was
three years old, also on
three

595
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,175
three.
So put simply, it reminds me of

596
00:30:34,175 --> 00:30:36,935
the energy of like
death and
rebirth, right?

597
00:30:36,935 --> 00:30:42,622
It's carrying right the passage
of my
lineage, but also the

598
00:30:42,622 --> 00:30:45,846
energy of the present moment.
Like my
mother birthed me, and

599
00:30:45,846 --> 00:30:48,160
then that was sort of a death in
my family
that created a lot

600
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,190
of the trauma.
My journey to trauma, my


601
00:30:50,198 --> 00:30:52,495
journey to helping other people
transmute their trauma.

602
00:30:52,495 --> 00:30:56,104
There's
a lot to it, but 333
is always my resonance and my

603
00:30:56,104 --> 00:30:57,820
frequency.

And so whenever I see this

604
00:30:57,910 --> 00:31:00,520
number, and again in the most

random of ways, I won't go into

605
00:31:00,580 --> 00:31:03,750
crazy stories, but because I

connect to this on a daily

606
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,470
basis, it's not even just seeing

like 1111 on the microwave.

607
00:31:07,470 --> 00:31:10,340
Like people know about that, but
I
see three through three in

608
00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:13,170
the most random ways because I'm

attuned to that frequency.

609
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,178
Marc Ronick: Okay, that's cool.


610
00:31:15,186 --> 00:31:17,602
That's cool.
Yeah, I mean, I knew all about

611
00:31:17,602 --> 00:31:19,140
angel numbers.
Jessica Schiller: There's a


612
00:31:19,148 --> 00:31:22,120
science to it as well.
Like, you know, 222 is the

613
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,567
master builder
number, right?
Because you have one plus one.

614
00:31:25,567 --> 00:31:28,305
You know, three is
typically
like angelic support.

615
00:31:28,364 --> 00:31:31,399
Four is surrounds foundation,

home stuff like that.

616
00:31:31,399 --> 00:31:34,194
That's numerology.
But Marc Ronick: I was born at.

617
00:31:34,194 --> 00:31:36,362
I
was.
I'm always proud of my angel

618
00:31:36,362 --> 00:31:40,548
numbers in the sense that

they're mine because I was born

619
00:31:40,620 --> 00:31:44,897
at 440 4p.m So I feel very

attached to that those series of

620
00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:46,300
numbers.
Jessica Schiller: Yeah, which is

621
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:48,265

why you you host a community.
Marc Ronick: Yeah, that would


622
00:31:48,273 --> 00:31:50,395
make sense.
That would make sense based on

623
00:31:50,395 --> 00:31:52,320
that definition.

Yes, that's true.

624
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,842
So I want to ask you.
You've written about
the

625
00:31:56,842 --> 00:32:00,904
difference between listening to
the voice within and looking


626
00:32:00,912 --> 00:32:04,074
outside ourselves for proof that
something will work, and


627
00:32:04,082 --> 00:32:06,550
honestly, I'm going to be very
real for a second.

628
00:32:06,550 --> 00:32:10,125
Like this is
an area that I
continue to work on for myself.

629
00:32:10,125 --> 00:32:12,820
I struggle a lot
with
comparison, right?

630
00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:16,467
So, how does comparison with
other
creators affect the way

631
00:32:16,467 --> 00:32:20,612
a podcaster speaks, that
creates,
and connects with an

632
00:32:20,612 --> 00:32:22,420
audience.
Jessica Schiller: I mean, it


633
00:32:22,428 --> 00:32:24,770
affects it in a myriad of ways.
I I struggle with it too.

634
00:32:24,770 --> 00:32:27,576
I'm
going to be 100 real.
Like even though, and that's why

635
00:32:27,576 --> 00:32:29,930
I do this
work.
Like when I wake up in the

636
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:33,110
morning, granted, I do touch my
phone and I'm trying to get rid

637
00:32:33,170 --> 00:32:36,800
of this addiction to check, you
know, apps and emails and such.

638
00:32:37,250 --> 00:32:39,718
But you are letting in from the
minute you wake up.

639
00:32:39,718 --> 00:32:43,150
If you open your phone.
You are letting in
all of the

640
00:32:43,150 --> 00:32:47,950
other energies of every single
other creator,
email, anyone,

641
00:32:47,950 --> 00:32:51,068
any energy coming from your
phone brands.

642
00:32:51,068 --> 00:32:54,054
You're
letting that all into
your aura immediately, right?

643
00:32:54,054 --> 00:32:57,784
And so I do
that.
Like I pick up my phone and then

644
00:32:57,784 --> 00:33:01,446
I spend an hour, let's
say, in
meditation, tapping back into my

645
00:33:01,446 --> 00:33:03,084
own again.
Listening to
recently, I've

646
00:33:03,084 --> 00:33:06,042
been listening to something, and
we'll talk about
this at EPC.

647
00:33:06,042 --> 00:33:09,450
They're called isochronic tones,
and they
basically it's called

648
00:33:09,450 --> 00:33:12,258
it's from the Greek word
isochronic.

649
00:33:12,258 --> 00:33:15,611
Iso
means equal, and chronic
is time.

650
00:33:15,611 --> 00:33:19,020
So it literally re trains
your
brain, and there's actually

651
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,470
scientific studies on that to

make sure the left and the right

652
00:33:21,530 --> 00:33:23,270
brain hemispheres are in

equilibrium.

653
00:33:24,170 --> 00:33:27,272
Rich: Yeah, and you know I gotta

say, like again, I want

654
00:33:27,272 --> 00:33:31,063
people, even if you aren't super
woo,
just to stop and pay

655
00:33:31,063 --> 00:33:33,554
attention this week.
If you're somebody
similar to

656
00:33:33,554 --> 00:33:36,616
what Jessica's describing, at
that when you
wake up, you

657
00:33:36,616 --> 00:33:39,260
grab your phone first thing in
the morning, and
you're

658
00:33:39,260 --> 00:33:41,614
looking at emails, you're
scrolling through social media,

659
00:33:41,614 --> 00:33:45,880
whatever it is you're doing.
Think about how you feel,


660
00:33:45,888 --> 00:33:50,025
especially a few hours later.
Yeah, just how you're feeling in

661
00:33:50,025 --> 00:33:52,360

general, not about what you
looked at first thing in the


662
00:33:52,368 --> 00:33:53,886
morning, but just how are you
feeling?

663
00:33:53,886 --> 00:33:58,158
And I would encourage
you to
try a day where you don't engage

664
00:33:58,158 --> 00:34:01,476
with your phone first
thing in
the morning, and if, for that

665
00:34:01,476 --> 00:34:04,779
matter, maybe you try
to limit
it as much as possible that day,

666
00:34:04,779 --> 00:34:07,850
and pay attention to
how
you're feeling that day, because

667
00:34:07,850 --> 00:34:09,929
there is something to be
said
about that.

668
00:34:09,929 --> 00:34:13,554
I notice that when I
accidentally grab my
phone and

669
00:34:13,554 --> 00:34:16,815
start scrolling through it, and
first thing in
the morning, it

670
00:34:16,815 --> 00:34:20,123
sets a weird tone for me.
That at least for
that

671
00:34:20,123 --> 00:34:23,885
morning, and yeah, I have to end
up meditating,
exercising,

672
00:34:23,885 --> 00:34:29,081
etc. to try to get out of
whatever ick I just
picked up

673
00:34:29,081 --> 00:34:31,922
by scrolling on my phone.
Jessica Schiller: Yeah, and


674
00:34:31,929 --> 00:34:33,638
that's what I mean.
Like I'm starting from the

675
00:34:33,638 --> 00:34:37,068
morning to
really set an
example of like that's FOMO

676
00:34:37,068 --> 00:34:38,844
right there.
Right,
once you start seeing

677
00:34:38,844 --> 00:34:41,645
all those people, you're in that
kind of
weird space, Mark,

678
00:34:41,645 --> 00:34:43,498
because you're seeing all these
other
people, and you're

679
00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:46,210
thinking, "Oh my God, I should
be doing this,
or why am I not

680
00:34:46,210 --> 00:34:49,042
doing that, or I need to listen
to this, or I
should be right.

681
00:34:49,042 --> 00:34:51,219
It really takes you out of your
own energy.

682
00:34:51,219 --> 00:34:54,460
Put
simply, it just takes you
out of your own space, your

683
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:57,476
aura, which
projects only a
few feet right from your

684
00:34:57,476 --> 00:34:59,504
physical body, and
you're
absorbing and.

685
00:34:59,504 --> 00:35:03,020
If you're a highly sensitive or
an empath,
even more so

686
00:35:03,020 --> 00:35:05,476
everybody else's energy.
When you're absorbing


687
00:35:05,484 --> 00:35:08,598
everybody else's energy, you're
going to think from their place,

688
00:35:08,598 --> 00:35:11,700

which takes you out of your
place, which right breeds FOMO.

689
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:13,680

And then of course there's a

690
00:35:13,740 --> 00:35:15,120
science between dopamine, right?



691
00:35:15,128 --> 00:35:18,636
And that's all these apps are
created for that purpose.

692
00:35:18,636 --> 00:35:21,346
And
really, our phone-that's
why it's highly addictive.

693
00:35:21,346 --> 00:35:24,219
It's like
a drug.
It's almost actually, I feel

694
00:35:24,219 --> 00:35:27,062
like even worse than a
drug.
That's why we pick up.

695
00:35:27,062 --> 00:35:29,402
I don't know about you, but I
pick
up my phone like every

696
00:35:29,402 --> 00:35:31,444
few minutes.
It's a terrible
addiction.

697
00:35:31,444 --> 00:35:34,020
Yeah, constantly checking email,
constantly
checking apps,

698
00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:36,340
constantly right.
And there, I know there's


699
00:35:36,348 --> 00:35:37,805
trackers on here to see how
many.

700
00:35:37,805 --> 00:35:39,560
I don't even want to look
at
that because I don't want the

701
00:35:39,740 --> 00:35:42,279
data of how many times I pick up

my phone, or how many hours

702
00:35:42,279 --> 00:35:45,970
I've been on a specific app,
because
that feels really bad.

703
00:35:45,970 --> 00:35:49,492
But Mark, you said it like it
just makes
you feel a certain

704
00:35:49,492 --> 00:35:52,234
way when you're on it,
especially first
thing in the

705
00:35:52,234 --> 00:35:55,074
morning, because your brain is
not yet fully
awake.

706
00:35:55,074 --> 00:35:57,685
Your subconscious mind is more
active than your conscious,


707
00:35:57,693 --> 00:36:00,690
which is why meditation is
powerful first thing in the


708
00:36:00,698 --> 00:36:03,644
morning, and brain retraining,
and all the things I do, but I'm

709
00:36:03,644 --> 00:36:06,654

being honest by saying I do
pick up my phone, and then I'm

710
00:36:06,654 --> 00:36:08,758
like,
you know what, that
didn't feel good.

711
00:36:08,758 --> 00:36:11,610
Now I'm going to do this,
and
then I compare the energy.

712
00:36:12,210 --> 00:36:15,060
Okay, what felt better?
How I
felt when I was

713
00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:17,580
comparing myself to everybody
else on Instagram
and social

714
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:20,600
media, and oh my god, you know,
another speaker posted
about

715
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,494
EPC.
I haven't posted, you know, like

716
00:36:22,494 --> 00:36:24,080
I'm just giving a
real life
example.

717
00:36:24,380 --> 00:36:26,579
Rich: Yeah, Jessica Schiller:
and like no, I
don't want to

718
00:36:26,579 --> 00:36:29,462
post from that place.
I don't create from that


719
00:36:29,470 --> 00:36:31,870
place, honestly.
And I'll just give full

720
00:36:31,870 --> 00:36:33,932
transparency.
Speak
about the city PC as

721
00:36:33,932 --> 00:36:35,935
well.
I haven't even done my podcast

722
00:36:35,935 --> 00:36:38,641
for
a year, a full year.
That's the longest.

723
00:36:38,641 --> 00:36:41,971
I started my show in
2020, so
it's six years in the making.

724
00:36:41,971 --> 00:36:45,564
I stopped it a year ago
with
I'm going through a major life

725
00:36:45,564 --> 00:36:48,074
transition.
I call it my
real soul death

726
00:36:48,074 --> 00:36:51,250
experience and spirituality.
They'll call it a
kundalini

727
00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:54,580
awakening because I didn't want
to create from that
place.

728
00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:58,076
I don't want to put forth the
energy onto my show that I


729
00:36:58,084 --> 00:37:00,370
don't feel truly is me in the
moment.

730
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,686
Rich: Yeah.
No.

731
00:37:02,686 --> 00:37:05,910
No, you know, to
agree with
what you're both saying, I know.

732
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:11,166
Now I do grab my
phone in the
morning, but that's to check.

733
00:37:11,166 --> 00:37:13,830
I do the meditation on
my
Apple Watch.

734
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,204
Yep.
And when I start with my morning

735
00:37:18,204 --> 00:37:22,345

meditation, I'm starting from
that piece of that space of that

736
00:37:22,345 --> 00:37:26,690

place of calm, peace of mind.
But those days that maybe I


737
00:37:26,698 --> 00:37:31,910
forgot, or maybe I, you know,
something happened, and I start

738
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:37,010
scrolling on social media, then
that's when I feel that morning

739
00:37:37,010 --> 00:37:39,391
just going downhill very, very
quickly.

740
00:37:39,391 --> 00:37:41,437
Yeah.
All right, good
stuff, good

741
00:37:41,437 --> 00:37:44,830
stuff, good stuff.
Let's take a quick commercial


742
00:37:44,838 --> 00:37:47,476
break.
Gonna wipe the slate clean real

743
00:37:47,476 --> 00:37:50,119
quick.
Let's check in
and find out

744
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:54,408
what's new going on.
What kind of updates do we


745
00:37:54,416 --> 00:37:56,515
have for Empowered Podcasting
Conference?

746
00:37:56,515 --> 00:37:59,890
Less than four weeks
away.
Less four weeks away.

747
00:38:00,129 --> 00:38:03,350
Less than a month, yeah.
Less than four weeks away.

748
00:38:03,350 --> 00:38:07,047
Mark,
on your end, my friend,
what anything, anything you're


749
00:38:07,055 --> 00:38:10,280
cooking, anything you want to
talk about, anything you want to

750
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,227

share, even just a morsel.
Yeah, I mean, first of all,


751
00:38:13,235 --> 00:38:16,475
yeah, it's crazy to think in one
month from right now, we all


752
00:38:16,483 --> 00:38:19,465
four of us are sitting
physically in the same room


753
00:38:19,473 --> 00:38:22,659
together, which is pretty mind
blowing to think about this path

754
00:38:22,659 --> 00:38:26,400

that we've been on to get
there, and then yeah, what have

755
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,051
I been
working on?
I've been talking with lots of

756
00:38:29,051 --> 00:38:31,158
different people
who are
interested in volunteering at

757
00:38:31,158 --> 00:38:33,697
the event.
We
are going to take on a few

758
00:38:33,697 --> 00:38:36,265
more.
I think the last time we did


759
00:38:36,273 --> 00:38:39,872
this show, we were talking about
limiting it to just six people,

760
00:38:39,872 --> 00:38:43,680
but the more that we think
about all that's entailed in

761
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,630
with this
weekend, we think
having more is probably safer to

762
00:38:47,630 --> 00:38:49,734
do.
So we have
opened that up a

763
00:38:49,734 --> 00:38:52,350
little bit more.
We have probably a couple
of

764
00:38:52,350 --> 00:38:55,678
slots left, and if anybody's
interested, just go to


765
00:38:55,686 --> 00:38:58,942
empoweredpodcasting.com click on
the contact us link, fill out


766
00:38:58,950 --> 00:39:02,250
the little quick form just to
give us your info and tell us


767
00:39:02,258 --> 00:39:04,240
that you're interested in
volunteering, and I'll reach out

768
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:05,760

to you, and we'll go from
there.

769
00:39:06,450 --> 00:39:08,606
That's right.
Many hands make
light work,

770
00:39:08,606 --> 00:39:12,193
and if you've got two good
hands, even one good
hand, one

771
00:39:12,193 --> 00:39:15,345
you know maybe one's in a cast
or something like
that.

772
00:39:15,345 --> 00:39:18,664
But if you're willing to work,
we'll give you a free
ticket

773
00:39:18,664 --> 00:39:20,592
to EPC.
Marc Ronick: That gave Jason a


774
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,682
little chuckle there.
I Jason: don't want to even have

775
00:39:23,682 --> 00:39:26,150
a
claw. claw, whatever.
We want your help.

776
00:39:27,140 --> 00:39:28,778
Rich: Thank you.
We'll take it.


777
00:39:28,786 --> 00:39:30,980
Kick chairs down the aisle.
All right, Jason.

778
00:39:30,980 --> 00:39:33,500
What what do you
got going on?
Anything on your end?

779
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,215
Jason: Nothing like that.
Yeah,
I'll sing my usual tune.

780
00:39:37,215 --> 00:39:40,434
We're past the date of price or
ticket
price increase, so it's

781
00:39:40,434 --> 00:39:43,417
now at its final point, but
there's
still opportunities

782
00:39:43,417 --> 00:39:47,942
for you to save on your ticket
and be at
Empowered Podcasting

783
00:39:47,942 --> 00:39:49,818
Three.
So go to

784
00:39:49,818 --> 00:39:52,900
empoweredpodcasting.com.

Since I'm telling the story,

785
00:39:52,930 --> 00:39:56,080
we'll use my code, but you can

use any of these codes with the

786
00:39:56,530 --> 00:39:57,970
first names of your hosts here.


787
00:39:57,978 --> 00:39:59,991
But when you buy your ticket,
EPC.

788
00:39:59,991 --> 00:40:05,684
Jason 20 will save you 20%
on
your ticket price, and I think

789
00:40:05,684 --> 00:40:09,420
to further drive home what

you're going to experience, we

790
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:13,080
have officially put the schedule

for the weekend on the website

791
00:40:13,140 --> 00:40:16,029
as well.
So when you go to ep or


792
00:40:16,037 --> 00:40:20,510
empoweredpodcasting.com/schedule
Rich: schedule, Jason: you'll

793
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:22,744
see the whole
weekend laid
out, so all the speakers, all

794
00:40:22,744 --> 00:40:24,750
the networking,
all the things
that are happening.

795
00:40:24,750 --> 00:40:27,170
I know we want to
talk about
the big book event.

796
00:40:27,170 --> 00:40:29,893
I'm going to let Rich do that

because that's his domain.

797
00:40:29,893 --> 00:40:33,610
But I'll also remind everybody
as
well: when you get your

798
00:40:33,610 --> 00:40:37,094
ticket, you are automatically
entered to
win a brand new

799
00:40:37,094 --> 00:40:40,399
Shure MV7 Plus microphone.
So buying your
ticket gets you

800
00:40:40,399 --> 00:40:43,155
put into that drawing.
We will raffle that off
at the

801
00:40:43,155 --> 00:40:46,894
event, and you will go home with
that microphone from
the

802
00:40:46,894 --> 00:40:49,384
conference.
So, Rich, I think another big

803
00:40:49,384 --> 00:40:52,784
point, as we
as I said, this
meet the author event that

804
00:40:52,784 --> 00:40:55,663
you're putting
together it's
something new to EPC, but I

805
00:40:55,663 --> 00:40:58,406
think it's going to
be a great
way to kick things off on

806
00:40:58,406 --> 00:41:01,186
Thursday, along with our
mixer
icebreaker event.

807
00:41:01,186 --> 00:41:04,348
So tell everybody what you've
got in
store for Rich: us.

808
00:41:04,348 --> 00:41:06,137
Yeah, the meet the
author, the
author meetup.

809
00:41:06,137 --> 00:41:09,688
It's something that I've always
participated at Podfest.

810
00:41:09,688 --> 00:41:14,384
They do a meet the author, and
it's just
a really cool way to

811
00:41:14,384 --> 00:41:18,520
give some shine to the author
community
because many

812
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,472
podcasters, you know, maybe they
are writers as
well, just like

813
00:41:22,472 --> 00:41:25,130
Jessica is, just like some of us
are here.

814
00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:28,112
Maybe
they're looking for ways
to repurpose their content.

815
00:41:28,112 --> 00:41:32,765
They've
got a huge catalog of
of episodes, and what great way

816
00:41:32,765 --> 00:41:36,500
to
repurpose that information,
but put it in a book form.

817
00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:40,442
But the
author meetup is
always a is a fun time to just

818
00:41:40,442 --> 00:41:43,528
meet your the
author
community, and we put you know

819
00:41:43,528 --> 00:41:46,590
we were toying with the
idea.
Do we we knew we had a lot of

820
00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:49,180
authors, but getting some buy

in and getting people to

821
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,620
participate and lug some books

on the airplane or send them

822
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,544
down ahead.
But we got a bunch
of people,

823
00:41:57,544 --> 00:42:01,830
so shouts to Jennifer Longworth,
Janaid Ahmed, Brandon


824
00:42:01,838 --> 00:42:06,945
Burkmeyer, Shay Sparks, Rick and
Clancy Denton, and I also


825
00:42:06,953 --> 00:42:09,527
believe Ralph Eastep will be
participating.

826
00:42:09,527 --> 00:42:15,238
Still waiting on
a few more
confirmations, but those are the

827
00:42:15,238 --> 00:42:20,136
people that we
have so far-the
podcasters slash authors that we

828
00:42:20,136 --> 00:42:23,554
have so far that
will be
participating in the author

829
00:42:23,554 --> 00:42:25,614
meetup.
Great opportunity
to get a

830
00:42:25,614 --> 00:42:28,040
book signed.
What I love about it, Rich, take

831
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:29,916
a selfie.
Marc Ronick: Yeah, Rich.

832
00:42:29,916 --> 00:42:33,321
What
I'm excited about is that
we're doing it with this mixer

833
00:42:33,321 --> 00:42:36,837
that
we're doing on Thursday.
So yeah, you know when I and

834
00:42:36,837 --> 00:42:39,840
this
is again no shade on
Podfest because we love Podfest

835
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,218
and I
know pod the way they do
it.

836
00:42:42,277 --> 00:42:45,727
It's usually a separate event in

a separate room somewhere.

837
00:42:45,727 --> 00:42:49,273
This we're doing with everybody
together, just getting in,

838
00:42:49,332 --> 00:42:52,534
having a drink, socializing, and

I'm excited about that.

839
00:42:52,534 --> 00:42:55,748
I'm excited for the authors
about
that because it's

840
00:42:55,748 --> 00:42:59,019
basically a guarantee you're
going to have
people in front

841
00:42:59,019 --> 00:43:01,948
of you interested in what you're

sharing with us.

842
00:43:01,948 --> 00:43:05,749
So yeah, if you've got a book,
let us know
if you're coming

843
00:43:05,749 --> 00:43:06,977
to EPC.
Yeah, please.

844
00:43:06,977 --> 00:43:09,316
We would love for you to

participate.

845
00:43:09,316 --> 00:43:12,842
We'd also really encourage you
to let us know
ahead of time.

846
00:43:12,842 --> 00:43:16,408
That way, we can reserve space.
As Mark said, the
author

847
00:43:16,408 --> 00:43:20,061
meetup will be happening pretty
much adjacent to the you
know

848
00:43:20,061 --> 00:43:23,085
the actual mixer.
Okay, but we want to make sure

849
00:43:23,085 --> 00:43:26,518
that
there's table space so
you can sign some books and meet

850
00:43:26,518 --> 00:43:30,000
people
and things like that.
So let us know ahead of time,

851
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,459
Rich: and if you have to order

books from your printer, then

852
00:43:33,524 --> 00:43:37,496
you better start ordering books
so you can ship them on ahead.

853
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,694
That's pretty much what I've

got.

854
00:43:39,694 --> 00:43:43,457
One more thing, real quick, I've
been reaching out, just
like

855
00:43:43,457 --> 00:43:47,599
Mark has been kind of leading
the charge with finding
some

856
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:50,248
volunteers.
I've been reaching out to

857
00:43:50,248 --> 00:43:54,283
nonprofit
organizations in the
Charlotte area, and I did make

858
00:43:54,283 --> 00:43:57,209
contact
with one specific
creator organizations, a

859
00:43:57,209 --> 00:43:59,904
nonprofit
organization that
welcomes students.

860
00:43:59,904 --> 00:44:03,574
It's kind of like you
know
maybe like an after-school

861
00:44:03,638 --> 00:44:07,419
program, something along those

lines, and we're going to be

862
00:44:07,483 --> 00:44:10,374
giving some complimentary

tickets to those students.

863
00:44:10,374 --> 00:44:14,665
So if you're in the Charlotte
area or
neighboring area and

864
00:44:14,665 --> 00:44:18,231
you're involved in a creative
nonprofit
and you would like

865
00:44:18,231 --> 00:44:22,172
to bring your students, let us
know because we
might be able

866
00:44:22,172 --> 00:44:25,056
to find some tickets for you
free of charge.


867
00:44:25,064 --> 00:44:27,689
Yeah, I think we have two two
different
groups that we're

868
00:44:27,689 --> 00:44:30,470
working with right now that have
students.


869
00:44:30,478 --> 00:44:35,145
We're talking, you know, teenage
age students that are really


870
00:44:35,153 --> 00:44:37,934
interested in podcasting and
wanting to learn more.

871
00:44:37,934 --> 00:44:42,070
So we
figured this would be a
wonderful way to give back to


872
00:44:42,078 --> 00:44:45,494
the Charlotte area community.
So yeah, great, great stuff,

873
00:44:45,494 --> 00:44:47,334
Rich.

Thank you for that.

874
00:44:47,334 --> 00:44:50,340
And anything else we need to
cover before we
get back to

875
00:44:50,340 --> 00:44:51,970
Jessica with one or two more
questions?

876
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:55,150
No, I think that's pretty much

it on my end.

877
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,686
Okay, so Jessica, let's briefly
talk about your talk.

878
00:44:59,686 --> 00:45:03,102
And I don't, you know, you've
shared a
lot, and I don't want

879
00:45:03,102 --> 00:45:06,714
you to share too much.
So let's take
this from a

880
00:45:06,714 --> 00:45:10,630
broad view here.
What will attendees experience


881
00:45:10,638 --> 00:45:15,618
during your EPC three workshop,
and what's a change that you


882
00:45:15,626 --> 00:45:18,618
hope that they'll bring to the
next recording session when


883
00:45:18,626 --> 00:45:21,742
they're going back home and
start recording their next


884
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:23,516
podcast.
Jessica Schiller: Yeah.

885
00:45:23,516 --> 00:45:26,858
So, what
to expect is again a
lot of what I talked about today

886
00:45:26,858 --> 00:45:29,547
is exactly
what you said.
It sounds woo energy.

887
00:45:29,547 --> 00:45:32,762
What does it feel like?

What is like you're going to

888
00:45:32,821 --> 00:45:36,388
actually experience that, and

that's why I'm blessed that you

889
00:45:36,446 --> 00:45:39,546
guys gave me the 45 minute

workshop because trying to

890
00:45:39,604 --> 00:45:42,879
explain this in 30 minutes is

really really complicated.

891
00:45:42,937 --> 00:45:46,271
You're actually going to

experience a lot of the tangible

892
00:45:46,329 --> 00:45:49,896
tools that I use on a day to day

basis and with my clients to

893
00:45:49,955 --> 00:45:52,300
shift your frequency, to shift

your energy.

894
00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:55,857
Again, that is your broadcast as
a podcaster is your
frequency.

895
00:45:55,857 --> 00:45:59,867
I don't have a frequency tuner
to make sure you
can you know

896
00:45:59,867 --> 00:46:01,780
see exactly what frequency it
is.

897
00:46:01,780 --> 00:46:05,360
I know
musicians have that,
where you can actually see what

898
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,323
the
specific number and marker
is.

899
00:46:07,381 --> 00:46:11,065
But we're going to use a lot of
these tools in this workshop to

900
00:46:11,124 --> 00:46:14,808
be able to shift our frequency

to come across right not only as

901
00:46:14,866 --> 00:46:18,317
our authentic selves, but as

ourselves that feel just truly

902
00:46:18,375 --> 00:46:20,923
connected, right?
Truly
connected to our heart.

903
00:46:20,923 --> 00:46:24,483
Right in the trauma-informed
world, it's
called heart math.

904
00:46:24,483 --> 00:46:27,089
That's one technique we're going
to use.


905
00:46:27,097 --> 00:46:30,389
Ways to actually regulate your
nervous system as well before


906
00:46:30,397 --> 00:46:33,839
you speak on the podcast.
A lot of people don't think

907
00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:35,801
about
that, as I mentioned
before.

908
00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:38,453
Right, what's our tone?
What's
our cadence?

909
00:46:38,453 --> 00:46:41,079
Our presence.
Right, and sort of how we come


910
00:46:41,087 --> 00:46:43,990
across in our voice and our
messaging, we're going to


911
00:46:43,998 --> 00:46:47,557
actually work on that, so you
can feel that in the moment.

912
00:46:47,557 --> 00:46:51,184
To
when you go home and press
play and hit record, you may

913
00:46:51,184 --> 00:46:54,307
actually
feel the shift of
your energy of your episodes.

914
00:46:54,307 --> 00:46:57,414
Like for
instance, my
listeners in talks, live talks

915
00:46:57,414 --> 00:47:00,763
that I do as well as
on my
podcast, they can tell when

916
00:47:00,763 --> 00:47:04,163
something is off with me,
you
can sense that shift, and so

917
00:47:04,222 --> 00:47:07,906
that's what I want people to go
home with: is to be able to, as

918
00:47:07,964 --> 00:47:11,590
they press record every day, to
feel like they put forth their

919
00:47:11,648 --> 00:47:14,456
best effort, right?
Because FOMO
comes from not

920
00:47:14,456 --> 00:47:17,892
feeling like you're enough that
you have to
do what someone

921
00:47:17,892 --> 00:47:20,683
else is doing.
But when you truly feel assured

922
00:47:20,683 --> 00:47:24,040
in yourself, in your energy and
your emotional state, that's


923
00:47:24,048 --> 00:47:27,642
another thing I didn't talk
about, which is prevalent as


924
00:47:27,650 --> 00:47:30,567
well as a podcaster regulating
your emotional state.

925
00:47:30,567 --> 00:47:34,164
Nothing in
the outside world
truly contains what is already

926
00:47:34,164 --> 00:47:35,488
inside of you.
Marc Ronick: Very cool.

927
00:47:35,488 --> 00:47:37,924
Yeah, Rich: Jessica.
Last question for
you before

928
00:47:37,924 --> 00:47:42,068
we start wrapping up.
One of the things we pride


929
00:47:42,076 --> 00:47:47,200
ourselves in here at EPC is that
our featured speakers are also


930
00:47:47,208 --> 00:47:50,359
attendees.
So you have the opportunity,

931
00:47:50,359 --> 00:47:55,990
viewers, to not
only hear one
of our featured speakers, like

932
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:59,270
Jessica, on
stage.
Here you see them on stage, and

933
00:47:59,270 --> 00:48:02,280
then in the very next

presentation, be sitting right

934
00:48:02,370 --> 00:48:05,357
next to them to hear someone

else's presentation.

935
00:48:05,357 --> 00:48:09,300
Our speakers hang out and learn
with
the rest of us.

936
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:11,868
What is one thing you are
looking forward
to?

937
00:48:11,868 --> 00:48:13,804
Maybe it's a maybe it's a
presentation.

938
00:48:13,804 --> 00:48:17,424
Maybe it's an
experience like
the author meetup or something

939
00:48:17,424 --> 00:48:19,230
like that.

What is something you're looking

940
00:48:19,350 --> 00:48:22,360
forward to at EPC?
Jessica Schiller: Three things


941
00:48:22,368 --> 00:48:25,508
actually came to mind as I was.
I was listening to each market,

942
00:48:25,508 --> 00:48:27,764
Jason.
I'm going to remember all of

943
00:48:27,764 --> 00:48:31,075
them.
Number one is, I really
am,

944
00:48:31,075 --> 00:48:34,250
and again, this may sound
counter to my presentation.

945
00:48:34,250 --> 00:48:37,046
I
actually did a talk on this
at Podfests this year.

946
00:48:37,046 --> 00:48:41,779
I love AI,
and I love it
because I actually think it can

947
00:48:41,779 --> 00:48:44,314
be a beautiful tool
for
understanding more of your own

948
00:48:44,314 --> 00:48:46,960
energetic frequency, and I

know that sounds counter, but

949
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,800
that's sort of my mo is sort of
disproving two things that are

950
00:48:50,860 --> 00:48:52,972
contrasting, right?
I mean,
contrast therapy is a

951
00:48:52,972 --> 00:48:56,599
big thing in wellness too, but
it's like
the mental contrast

952
00:48:56,599 --> 00:48:59,569
therapy of like we don't think
this is
authentic, but here's

953
00:48:59,569 --> 00:49:02,661
how it can actually, right?
That's sort of
shadow work at

954
00:49:02,661 --> 00:49:05,125
its finest.
It can actually be the most

955
00:49:05,125 --> 00:49:07,170
potent
medicine, right?
Is sort of AI.

956
00:49:07,410 --> 00:49:10,140
So I love learning all the tools

because I think it actually

957
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:14,220
deepens my work and what I do.

The second thing is just your

958
00:49:14,310 --> 00:49:16,417
community, Mark, and really

getting to experience it.

959
00:49:16,417 --> 00:49:19,084
I've only experienced it
digitally,
and I feel like

960
00:49:19,084 --> 00:49:21,530
again, this is a lot of the work
that I do.

961
00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:23,093
The
people you attract is from
your frequency.

962
00:49:23,093 --> 00:49:26,546
It's from your
energy, and so
I know when I'm going to go

963
00:49:26,546 --> 00:49:29,354
there just from
being around
you, from being around the show.

964
00:49:29,354 --> 00:49:33,080
Anyone who's
been here in the
chat, Simona, which I am very,

965
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,744
I'm very
excited for her
presentation because I've heard

966
00:49:35,744 --> 00:49:37,340
her speak and
she's very, very
powerful.

967
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,040
Again, I just picked up on her

energy, and I was like, I love,

968
00:49:40,220 --> 00:49:42,244
I love this girl, and I love

what she's saying.

969
00:49:42,244 --> 00:49:45,241
So that drew me to listen more
to actual
content.

970
00:49:45,241 --> 00:49:48,844
That's what I'm saying.
The content is king, of course,

971
00:49:48,844 --> 00:49:51,610
but the energy is what draws
the people in.

972
00:49:51,610 --> 00:49:54,730
Just like all the
people that
sign up for EPC, right?

973
00:49:54,730 --> 00:49:56,830
I would beg to differ.

They probably come because they

974
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,238
love the community and what it's

about, right?

975
00:49:59,238 --> 00:50:01,395
That's why.
At Podfest, they always say the

976
00:50:01,395 --> 00:50:04,278
magic happens in the hallways.
It's true connection, right?


977
00:50:04,286 --> 00:50:07,278
It's not about the specific
sessions and what we're going to

978
00:50:07,278 --> 00:50:08,580

learn.
It's about how we feel.

979
00:50:08,610 --> 00:50:10,624
It's about who we're going to

connect with, right?

980
00:50:10,624 --> 00:50:14,904
It's about just the the true
synergy that
happens, right?

981
00:50:14,904 --> 00:50:16,698
When aligned souls come
together.

982
00:50:16,698 --> 00:50:19,924
So that's
the third thing that
I'm looking for forward to, and

983
00:50:19,924 --> 00:50:22,096
really just
everything.
Getting to see you guys, of

984
00:50:22,096 --> 00:50:24,290
course, in person as
well.
Rich: Awesome.

985
00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:25,610
Jessica Schiller: Yeah.
Jason: Very cool.

986
00:50:25,610 --> 00:50:26,670
Very cool.
I
love Jessica Schiller:

987
00:50:26,670 --> 00:50:28,280
Charlotte too.

So excited to travel to

988
00:50:28,340 --> 00:50:30,188
Charlotte.
Rich: Absolutely.

989
00:50:30,188 --> 00:50:34,048
So, Jessica,
thank you for
hanging out with us this

990
00:50:34,048 --> 00:50:36,444
afternoon, folks.

Remember, go get your

991
00:50:36,512 --> 00:50:37,872
tickets@empoweredpodcasting.com
Remember.

992
00:50:37,872 --> 00:50:43,046
Remember to use my promo code so
I get all the
credit.

993
00:50:43,046 --> 00:50:47,200
BPC Rich 20 save some money.
But going back to some of
the

994
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,828
things we said before, if you're
interested in being a


995
00:50:50,836 --> 00:50:53,263
volunteer, we'd love to have
you.

996
00:50:53,263 --> 00:50:56,708
If you, we still have some

sponsorship opportunities

997
00:50:56,776 --> 00:51:00,120
available, so reach out to us.

Go to the website.

998
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,169
There's a form to fill out.
We will be in
touch with you

999
00:51:04,169 --> 00:51:07,436
if you're going to be there and
you are an
author.

1000
00:51:07,436 --> 00:51:10,132
We'd love to have you at the
author meetup.

1001
00:51:10,132 --> 00:51:14,775
So reach out
to us once again
so we can reserve space for you.

1002
00:51:14,775 --> 00:51:18,593
And
something else that just
reminded me the other day.

1003
00:51:18,593 --> 00:51:21,652
Make
sure you're following us
on social media.

1004
00:51:21,652 --> 00:51:24,064
You may think that
you're
subscribed.

1005
00:51:24,064 --> 00:51:27,276
You may think that you know
we're connected.


1006
00:51:27,284 --> 00:51:31,117
But sometimes you know you
forgot to subscribe on this


1007
00:51:31,125 --> 00:51:35,130
channel or that channel or
follow on this channel or that


1008
00:51:35,138 --> 00:51:36,885
channel.
We are on Facebook.

1009
00:51:36,885 --> 00:51:41,137
We are on Instagram, LinkedIn,
and
we also have a Facebook

1010
00:51:41,137 --> 00:51:44,036
group.
So we've got a page, we've got a

1011
00:51:44,036 --> 00:51:46,242

group.
Make sure you're in all ways

1012
00:51:46,242 --> 00:51:50,156
connected in all ways, so
that
you stay up to date on the

1013
00:51:50,224 --> 00:51:53,080
latest information and all that
good stuff.

1014
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,047
Mark, Jason, any last words from
you, gents?

1015
00:51:56,047 --> 00:51:59,145
No,
just get your tickets now.
It is time.

1016
00:51:59,145 --> 00:52:02,316
We are in the final
stretch.
Get your tickets.

1017
00:52:02,316 --> 00:52:05,504
Come join us.
And like Jessica said,
it is

1018
00:52:05,504 --> 00:52:08,023
there.
There is nothing like in person.

1019
00:52:08,023 --> 00:52:11,765
I am so grateful
for the
digital community that we've

1020
00:52:11,765 --> 00:52:15,452
built, but there's nothing

like actually seeing people,

1021
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,600
hugging people, shaking hands,

and learning from one another

1022
00:52:19,668 --> 00:52:23,174
through an entire weekend, so I
highly encourage you.

1023
00:52:23,174 --> 00:52:25,448
Please go to
empoweredpodcasting.com get


1024
00:52:25,456 --> 00:52:30,514
your tickets today, and use code
EPC Mark 20 and get 20% off.

1025
00:52:30,514 --> 00:52:34,560
If
you guys haven't figured it
out yet, we have a little bet

1026
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,488
going
who's going to get the
most out of their coupon codes,

1027
00:52:38,488 --> 00:52:42,091
and I
think Jason is still
winning right now, just

1028
00:52:42,091 --> 00:52:44,233
slightly.
You're
damn right, I am.

1029
00:52:44,233 --> 00:52:48,488
Yeah, so use mine, please, and
help me win
this little bet

1030
00:52:48,488 --> 00:52:51,100
between my brothers here.
Jason: Not this isn't pandering

1031
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:52,129
whatsoever.
Marc Ronick: Not at all.

1032
00:52:52,129 --> 00:52:54,954
Not at
all.
Jason: I will wrap up by echoing

1033
00:52:54,954 --> 00:52:56,319

Marc.
Yes, get your tickets.

1034
00:52:56,380 --> 00:52:59,515
We're in that home stretch.
We
want to see you there.

1035
00:52:59,515 --> 00:53:03,029
We know everybody.
As humans, we are
creatures of

1036
00:53:03,029 --> 00:53:06,039
last-minute habits, so we're
getting to that last
minute.

1037
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:08,684
So we encourage you to get your
tickets now.

1038
00:53:08,684 --> 00:53:12,625
Also, a
big shout out to all
of our sponsors that are helping

1039
00:53:12,625 --> 00:53:15,675
make
this event possible.
All Rich: right, well, I think


1040
00:53:15,683 --> 00:53:17,945
that'll do it, Jessica.
Thank you again for joining us,

1041
00:53:17,945 --> 00:53:20,234
and
really looking forward to
seeing you in a month.

1042
00:53:20,234 --> 00:53:23,112
I'm actually
excited for you
to meet my wife in a month as

1043
00:53:23,112 --> 00:53:25,797
well because you
guys will end
up talking for hours.

1044
00:53:25,797 --> 00:53:27,332
I'm sure of it.
Yes.

1045
00:53:27,332 --> 00:53:29,480
So
yeah, thank you for being
here.

1046
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:31,500
And Rich, Jason, thank you as

always.

1047
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:34,592
And I'm sure I'll be talking to
you guys in the next
10

1048
00:53:34,592 --> 00:53:37,020
minutes or so anyway.
So I won't say an official

1049
00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:39,560
goodbye to
you guys.
And Rich, thanks for taking the

1050
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,476
helm.
Jason: Before we go, one last


1051
00:53:41,484 --> 00:53:45,260
thing I want to shout out.
Rich: Oh, Jason: next week we're

1052
00:53:45,260 --> 00:53:48,940
back with
the great Annika
Jackson here on casting.

1053
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:52,510
Rich: Yeah, so we've had little
little teases here about AI

1054
00:53:52,810 --> 00:53:54,604
stuff.
We'll probably be digging
in a

1055
00:53:54,604 --> 00:53:58,075
lot to AI next week with Annika.
She was a speaker last
year

1056
00:53:58,075 --> 00:54:02,246
and will be again this year, and
as a creator partner
as well.

1057
00:54:02,246 --> 00:54:05,880
So until next time, everybody,
make it a great day.


1058
00:54:05,888 --> 00:54:06,600
Take care.