352-Renting a Podcast Studio: What You Need to Know

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Good morning podcasting morning
chat.

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Today is my birthday, Thursday,
August 7th, 2025.

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And today we're breaking down a
major Instagram update, shaking

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things up for content creators,
then diving into the ABC's of

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renting a podcast studio without
the stress or surprise fees.

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So if you're listening live on
Clubhouse or Chatter, the share

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And now give us about 30 seconds
and we'll get things rolling.

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Thanks for being here.
Good morning again podcasting

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morning chat.
Thank you for being here.

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I am your host Mark Ronick and
currently on stage with me we

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have Jonathan Howard, Dr. Faye,
Sid Meadows, Nick Nallback,

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producer Ashley Feller and we
also have guest mod, guest Co

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host today, Janaid Ahmed has
joined us because as I said at

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the top of the show, we're going
to be talking about studios,

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podcast studios, not your home
studios that you build, but ones

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that you could go out and rent.
It's becoming more and more of

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the thing these days, both the
seeing all of these studios

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popping up all around major
cities in the US and we're

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seeing lots of podcasters taking
advantage of that more and more

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these days.
I've got several clients this

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year in 2025 that are renting
out studios.

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And really it's the most as far
as all of my clients go each and

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every year.
It's the most in one year that

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I've had of clients doing that.
So it's a thing and I think it's

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worth talking about even if you
don't have experience.

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As I was telling Dr. if you
don't have experience with a

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studio and you're used to just
doing it out of your home, I

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want you to think about what if
your home studio went away

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tomorrow and you needed a studio
space?

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Thinking about what are the
things that you would look for

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in a studio?
So we'll get into that.

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But we do have some leftover
news items.

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I should hit the music.
Oh, will I hit the right button?

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You're convo.
Nope, you're convo see, I did it

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wrong.
It's where is it?

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Is it this?
It's the news.

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By the way, I should tell you
before we dive in.

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So as you, some of you know, I'm
in Atlantic City this week

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working from here, a little
workation before I go off and

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volunteer at that summer camp
for kids with the disability

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CMT.
And all week I've we've had the

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condo, my in laws have a condo
here.

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We've had it to ourselves, but
they came yesterday to join us.

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And so it's a condo and there's
no way I'm going to do a show at

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7:00 in the morning for my whole
family to sit and listen to as

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they're waking up.
So thankfully, there are some

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places I can go in this
building.

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And actually, I've been in this
room before doing this very show

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before.
It's their little billiard room.

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And it's a little bit noisy
right now.

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The air just kicked on.
And so I'm not sure how that's

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going to sound.
But we can't hear it.

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OK, good.
I can't hear it at all.

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Good.
And with Offonic, if we do, I

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think that'll clean it up
nicely.

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Yeah, it's nice.
I have a nice little backdrop.

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I'm not streaming live because I
don't have a great Internet

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signal and I don't want to eat
up the speed, but I will have

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some photos for you to take a
look at.

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It's cool.
Nice little backdrop of a

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somewhat of a billiard room
behind me anyway.

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Oh, and we've got Alex Baelish
joining us as well.

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So before we get into the whole
studio thing, Jonathan actually

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had hipped me to this yesterday
and then I started seeing it all

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over Instagram.
There is a major update that has

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come out for Instagram that I
think you as a creator would be

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interested in, especially if you
use the platform regularly.

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I know it's probably my primary
social media source.

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They've rolled out a repost
feature now, you're saying?

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But Mark, we can repost.
I can repost people's stuff and

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put it in my stories.
Yes, that's true.

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But that only lives there for 24
hours.

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And I don't think they do a heck
of a great job either.

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I just don't think a lot of
people get to see them.

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By the way, Dr. your mic is off.
Did you want to say something?

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Dang it.
That made me laugh.

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OK, so anyway, yes, it's a
repost feature, letting you

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share public reels and posts
like you're curating your own

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feed.
It's meant to help creators

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reach more people, but critics
say, again, with the copycat

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moves.
So I think what's going on here

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is Instagram is finally catching
up to really what most social

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media platforms offer in some
way, shape or form.

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You can repost on TikTok, you
can repost on Facebook, you can

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repost on LinkedIn.
There's never really been a good

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reposting feature on Instagram
and it has something where you

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can also add a note so similar
to a quoted tweet.

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There is or I don't know.
What do you call that nowadays

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when now that it's called XA
quoted X?

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There's an option to add your
own short comment via a thought

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bubble before you repost it.
So now when you repost

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somebody's content, you can
leave a little note and that

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little note will be like a pop
up bubble, bubble at the bottom

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left hand side of the screen so
that people can see that you've

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interacted with this, that
you've reposted it, etcetera.

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The repost still credits the
original creator and links back

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to that creators content, which
offers a new way for creators to

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be discovered beyond their own
audience.

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So like I said, many users feel
Instagram is copying features

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from other platforms like
TikTok, Snapchat and XI.

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Don't look at it as a copycat
move.

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I just look at it as a long
overdue feature and I'm excited

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about it.
I went ahead to test it out.

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I found I think it was Brock
Johnson had posted about it and

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I reposted that.
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this feature is when you look at
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you know, you can actually
swipe.

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What is it?
Swipe left and you can see, you

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know, starting with your main
profile page, if you swipe left,

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then you can see all of your
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If you swipe swipe left again,
you'll see all of your reposts.

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So now users can go to your
profile and not only look at

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your content.
If they swipe just a couple of

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times, then they can see the
other content that you've

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reposted as well.
Jonathan, anything I'm leaving

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out?
Sorry, I was over on Instagram

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looking at the to see if I have
repost yet.

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Of course I don't.
Well, you have to.

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You have to get an up the
update.

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That's the only key.
It doesn't.

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Oh, you did Really?
Because I didn't have it.

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I updated it yesterday and boom
it was there.

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Yeah, I still don't have trial
reels either.

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So, you know, Instagram just
doesn't like me.

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It's fine.
But no, I think you touched on

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everything.
I think it is an important

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update for Instagram.
It's something that people have

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been asking for for a long time
on the platform.

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And now there's a real, you
know, they talk about having

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shareable content and having
real shareable content is

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important, but there was never
really a good way to share

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content.
So now there's actually a good

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way to share content.
And you can look to have

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shareable content and have your
audience repost it, and it'll

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actually be reposted permanently
in a home that's more than 24

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hours long.
So I think it's a good move for

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them.
People are always going to

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complain about Instagram doing
everything everybody else does

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because that's what they do.
And again, I think that this is

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just a feature.
This isn't a copycat at this

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point because pretty much every
other platform has it.

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But yeah, the other thing I
think is important to think

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about, I intend to use the
repost feature a lot.

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And I think the hope as
creators, we have to hope that

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people will start using that
feature on our content,

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reposting our content.
Because although it hasn't

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really been reported yet, I'm
willing to bet that the more

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reposts you get, the more the
algorithm is going to favor that

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post.
So now you want to create

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shareable content more than
ever.

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Yeah, absolutely.
Because when it's shared, that's

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an indicator that it's good
content and that always boosts

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the algorithm.
So it's a great opportunity for

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us if we're creating really good
content to get more views and

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build our audience.
Yeah, 100%.

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Janae, do you have something?
Go ahead.

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Yeah, Jonathan, good morning,
everyone.

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Jonathan, what you want to do is
repost anybody's post and it'll

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you'll see the tab on your
profile.

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Just tried it.
I didn't have it on my profile.

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As soon as I reposted somebody's
content, boom, it's there.

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Yeah, I don't have a repost.
He doesn't even have the ability

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to repost.
Yeah, yeah.

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So give it time, everybody.
Yeah, Go ahead, Sid.

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Do you get notified when
somebody reposts your content

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like you do when they do it in
your stories?

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That is a wonderful question.
I don't know, maybe we should

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repost somebody's content right
now and test.

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It that yeah.
Janae, do will you find whether

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I don't care?
It doesn't have to be mine, but

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find somebody's from the
podcasting morning chat and

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repost it.
That would be awesome.

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Let's see what happens.
That's a great question.

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Said I would imagine you do
because you get noted like you

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said, you get notified on
stories when it's been reposted.

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I would imagine you see
something and like TikTok too.

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I know that sometimes I see my
content getting reposted,

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especially that Blue's Clues 1
still going by the way, the

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Blue's Blue's Clues, the Steve
starting a podcast short form

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video I put out still going and
I see every time somebody

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reposts that.
Yeah, they've changed the way

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they notify you with the reap
with the share in the story.

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It used to be a message in the
Messenger app.

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Now it's notification, the heart
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You when you click on the heart
app, you'll see that so and so

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reposted something.
It moved from being in this in

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the message to actually just in
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Yeah, OK, so there you go.
And Janae, I just saw it.

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I just got a notification on my
phone that you reposted

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something of mine.
So there you go.

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There, now Sid knows and
everyone else, yeah, you'll get

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a notification when it's when
it's reposted.

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Anyone else have any other
questions before?

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We have a couple other updates
that we want to share before we

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get into the whole studio talk,
so I want to just make sure

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anyone else has anything to add.
Yeah, I've got something to add

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about people saying, Oh my God,
they're copying this feature.

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Well, guess what?
We're copying it by using the

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bathroom a specific way.
Come on, this is human beings

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using the apps.
So we are going to find these

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features show up in other
applications.

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It just takes a lot of time.
I mean, just looking at the

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data, Facebook or Meta, they
have petabytes and millions of

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giga being served.
So when you want to deploy a new

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technology, it takes time,
effort and energy.

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So yes, we're going to see a
delayed deployment of features

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that are available on other apps
right now.

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Yeah, thank you, Janaid.
And all right, I'll keep it

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moving and let's go to.
Well, let me make sure Dr. Do

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you have some time to jump into
the YouTube updates that we

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wanted to get to?
Absolutely.

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OK, so YouTube just gave
creators a serious upgrade.

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It's all about helping shows
grow smarter.

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The new Channel Insights
Sharing.

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That's what it's called Channel
Insights Sharing.

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It's a tool that lets monetized
creators share detailed stats

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with brands and advertisers that
that includes audience

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breakdowns and shopping data,
especially useful if you're in

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their shopping affiliate
program.

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Oh gosh, I think I just saw
Billy is in the audience.

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Billy, come up and talk to us
about this.

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quote returning viewers metric
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mobile.
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So there's for our YouTube
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admittedly I'm not familiar too
familiar with all their shopping

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features and their shopping
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I, I it's clearly something I
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or at least an answer to TikTok
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It's YouTube's answer to it, but
I'm not familiar with that

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program.
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saying, hey, Billy, if you know
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But no pressure, Billy.
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There are.
Some no pressure Billy.

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Come on.
No pressure Billy and come up OK

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Kitchen.
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All right, so Dr. is going to
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I was going to give you one
other update and I thought we

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could talk about this.
I saw this over on Pod News and

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it was something from yesterday
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There's a new iOS app.
All right, Android users, stick

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with me.
Don't jump Chip, because I think

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the topic is worth a discussion.
A new iOS app called Mail Pod,

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which reads your inbox to you
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It's designed for commuters,
creators, and anyone who wants

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to save time and stay informed.
Hands free, the app promises to

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save users roughly an hour a day
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important messages.
It's it uses automated

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summarization and text to speech
tech to turn e-mail content into

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digestible audio.
It's gained early buzz and

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traction after being introduced
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And podcasters, consultants and
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volume can use it to streamline
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So my first question really is,
would you ever want to do this?

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Would you ever want your emails
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And why or why not?
I'm curious.

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So Nick's got the 100% emoji.
Nick, you're, you're all in on

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this.
You would do this?

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I've been wanting something like

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that for a while because I'm
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driving and can't really have my
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So it would be awesome to have
the ability to like have stuff

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read to you as opposed to
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Open up the device and look at
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Yeah, agreed.
And some people may say well,

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but you know, there's, I'm sure
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your phone, etcetera, to read
you that stuff.

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doing it similarly to the Google

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Notebook LM that we talked about
a few months ago when that was

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the hot thing where you could
feed it any information and it

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would turn it into a podcast.
This is the same idea.

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It's actually reading it to you
more like a podcast.

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I saw I think Jannade had thumbs
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Jannade, you're not into it.
You don't like?

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No, like Ashley said, it's going
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junk which reads mine as well.
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Unless they have a better
feature of cleaning out the

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emails and only reading the
primary folder.

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Maybe I'll give it a try.
Yeah, absolutely.

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I don't know that I would have
it read to me, but I used to

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summarize the AI summaries on my
e-mail all the time and it is

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really useful and does save a
ton of time.

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So for those don't know who
don't know, Jonathan, how does

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that work?
What, how and what is it?

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Give me a little more of
information on what it's

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summarizing and how it's
displaying that to you.

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So Apple will auto summarize
your emails if you wanted to.

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I'm on iOS 26 and it
automatically happens in my

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e-mail.
I'm not sure I can go into my

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e-mail and it'll up.
At the top, there's a summary of

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what emails have come in since I
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And then in each e-mail there's
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So you can use those summaries.
It's great because it gives you

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exactly kind of, hey, this
person said this, this person

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said this, you know, you can
respond emails.

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It's it's.
They do the same with text

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messages now as well on iOS 26.
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when you get the app or the iOS
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say, yes, I want to do the AI
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I have that too.
And I know a lot of my

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notifications out, even in
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It summarizes lots of different
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Sometimes I like it a lot,
sometimes I don't, but this

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feature as far as reading your
e-mail to you and somewhat of

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an, I guess somewhat of an
entertaining way being that it's

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doing it in a podcast format.
I wanted to see, let's see.

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All right, I know Dr. wanted to
speak to that too.

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So let's hear ADR. Did you want
to say something?

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Sorry, I actually have that
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And Nick, so do you.
I purchased Speechify and so I

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can have my e-mail read to me by
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Wow.
So I'm guessing that, yeah, I'm

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guessing that they probably gave
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apps.
I don't think they're illegally

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using their voices.
I hope not because if they are,

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that app will be going away very
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That's cool.
I like that.

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Now that I would have to try, if
I could have Snoop reading me my

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e-mail or telling me about my
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thing in the morning, I would
really enjoy that.

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I love it.
Was anyone else strongly for or

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against this before we move on?
OK, then we will move on.

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I think that this is a good
point, a good place to shift

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gears.
So those were just some of the

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the leftover news items from
yesterday's show.

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And if you missed that, just go
to episode 351 and you'll find

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all of the all the news from
this past week.

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And now it's complete with
today.

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So let's dig into this whole
thing of a podcast studio.

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Imagine that your home setup
disappears overnight.

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You've got an interview tomorrow
and you need to rent a studio.

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And let's be a little more
realistic.

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Let's say you've got an
interview over the next few

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days.
And you need to rent a studio.

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What do you do?
Maybe what we should do is first

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talk about what do you look for?
What's the first thing that you

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want to make sure of when you're
looking to rent a podcast

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studio?
And I'm going to go to Janae

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first.
Janae as our, our resident

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studio builder.
I don't know, you can come up,

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you can share a better name than
that.

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Then then I've come up with as
that studio builder.

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What do you think is the number
one thing a podcaster should

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look into when it comes to
renting studio space?

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Great question and a great topic
part.

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Thank you.
I like to call myself the home

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studio architect.
There you go, I like it.

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So number one thing it all comes
back to, hey, it's my pod is the

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podcast that I want to record.
Am I doing video or am I doing

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audio or am I doing both?
Well, you know, you get the

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point.
So knowing if the studio

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provides an audio only or a
video audio as well.

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So once you got that dialed
down, then you want to check

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that.
For example, if they offer both

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solutions, maybe you just want
to do an audio podcast.

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Back at Podcast Movement a
couple years ago, we had a

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studio set up with video, but
all they wanted was the audio

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because they were like, hey, we
can come in here, have our

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conversation, record the audio,
and we're good to go.

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So again, that's the first
question you want to ask.

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Hey, do you record audio or do
you also do video?

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So I want to hear for a second a
little bit more about the

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podcast Movement Studio.
When you say they said they just

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wanted audio, are you saying the
people that were actually using

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the space you were providing
didn't want the video?

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Correct.
Interesting.

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I would think for sure they
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No, they had their laptops open
up and they're just looking down

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at their laptop or reading off
of the scripts and whatnot and

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they're like, hey, we're just
going to use the audio.

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They just need a place to sit
and do that.

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Got it.
OK, interesting, Interesting.

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I just, yeah, especially a
couple of years ago where, say

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the video component of
podcasting wasn't as popular as

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today, where I would think
people would want to take

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advantage of that when they're
at a podcast movement.

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And if they're not using video
would be a cool, a cool add on.

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But OK, that's cool.
I see Mike Short has joined us

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from the audience.
Good to see you.

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Mike.
What did you want to add to this

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conversation?
As we're talking about these

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resources and and studios, one
of the things you may want to do

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is check local libraries.
So when I I left Richmond, VA

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about four years ago and about
six months before I left, they

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had renovated one of the
libraries in Richmond and they

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had actually built in their two
studios, 1 specifically for

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podcasting and one that was
specifically for YouTube, which

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could also be used for
podcasting.

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So before you run out and look
at a studio space to rent, there

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may be free options in your area
that you may want to look into

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a. 100% I definitely know a few
people that have taken advantage

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of that and I know the the best
one that I've seen in a library

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to date, and I've only seen a
few at this point, but the one

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that really just blew me away
was the Cosset Library in

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Memphis, TN.
That's in Dominic's neck of the

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woods.
That's when he invited me.

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He and the event coordinators
invited me to speak at a podcast

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day that they had on
International Podcast Day a

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couple years ago.
And it was at the Cosset Library

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and they had just a beautiful
studio set up there.

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It's own isolated area.
It really when you walk into the

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area and walk into the studio,
you feel like you're almost at a

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radio station.
It's it's got everything you

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need and it's completely,
completely free.

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You can just rent them out.
Just put by putting your name on

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it.
Go ahead.

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Yeah, that's the A That's the
way the studio in Richmond was.

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It was really nicely set up.
And it's funny you said that.

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I'm in the car driving to
Memphis, TN right now for a

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family wedding.
That's so funny.

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That's so cool.
And if you have a chance, I

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highly recommend just stopping
by the Casa library and checking

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that out.
Mike and I know wedding weekends

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can be very busy too, but yeah,
check that out.

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There was.
Oh, and there's also sometimes

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you can find.
And real quick before I jump off

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the stage, happy birthday.
Oh, thank you Sir.

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Appreciate that.
Appreciate that.

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I was telling Dr. and I'm not
fishing here, OK, but DRDR. And

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I were talking about my birthday
before the show and whether or

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not to even acknowledge it, you
know, And because I don't, I

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really look, yes, for me,
birthdays are very special and I

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do appreciate them a lot.
And I don't want to sit here and

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make this show all about me.
But yeah, we were talking about

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it.
And I was telling her, this is

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really not to make everyone feel
guilty because I really don't

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care.
But I on my 50th birthday two

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years ago, we had a room.
We were doing a room and not a

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single person said anything to
me.

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So thank you, Mike.
I appreciate that.

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I appreciate the warm wishes.
And again, I'm just just poking

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fun.
I really it's fine.

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But yeah, thank you, Mike.
Appreciate that.

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Yeah.
And also, you know, sometimes

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the Co working spaces, those
have free, sometimes you have to

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pay.
But sometimes I've seen in a

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couple instances where you are
allowed to just rent them out

450
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,120
just by putting your name down,
reserving the space.

451
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,160
So these are great options to
look into, especially if you are

452
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,000
doing your own production
because you go to a library, you

453
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,400
go to a Co working space, most
of the time you're not going to

454
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,880
have an engineer or somebody
there to assist you, somebody

455
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,040
there to take the files and then
edit it for you.

456
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,560
It's all on you.
And for a lot of us podcasters

457
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,360
who are independent and doing it
on our own, that's no problem.

458
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,360
But for people who are just
getting started especially, or

459
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:28,400
those who just never really got
into the production side of it

460
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,400
and had somebody else do it, you
have to consider those kinds of

461
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,680
factors for sure.
Billy's on stage, by the way.

462
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,200
Good morning to you, Billy.
Did you want to add to this

463
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,680
conversation about studios?
Yeah, Good morning.

464
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,240
Studio as a business plan, not
my favorite one I've ever tried.

465
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,680
So really to study that world
before you decide to build 1 and

466
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,200
try to rinse it out.
But then also there's a bunch of

467
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,400
business incubators in some
cities where they just have

468
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,640
these and they'll have like free
resources to small business

469
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,920
owners and, and in the city or
whatever.

470
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,680
And you can go in and schedule
it and, and use it for free as

471
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,000
well.
I, I surprisingly found a bunch

472
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,200
of those in the small town I
lived in and was like, oh,

473
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,480
didn't know this was no wonder I
can't rent studio space.

474
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,320
There's a bunch of free stuff
everywhere.

475
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,960
Yeah.
Thank you, Billy.

476
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,200
And so, Billy, you actually
attempted to have a podcast

477
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,200
studio, like as a business?
Yeah, it was a disaster.

478
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Hated it.
Never, ever, ever ever, ever do

479
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,760
it again.
How long did it last to end?

480
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,040
Give me one reason why it was so
terrible.

481
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,760
I'm curious.
I think we didn't for right

482
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,960
around a year or so.
And I think the number one

483
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,320
reason that I hated it, well,
one, I didn't set it up properly

484
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,560
to do like a key fob and like,
hey, let me bring you in and

485
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,120
show you how the equipment
works.

486
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:55,280
And here's a key fob and I got
camera, so don't steal anything.

487
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,880
Like I should have done that,
but I was like, Oh no, I want to

488
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,440
be there.
I'll be part of it.

489
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,800
I'll engineer it, whatever.
And dude, I had the craziest

490
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,840
request.
Like somebody was like, I need

491
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,040
to be there at 5:00 AM.
I'm like, give me a bit.

492
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,200
The price just went up $300.00
an hour.

493
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,960
What are we talking about?
So you get the craziest request

494
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,560
of when people can record and
that would drove me bonkers.

495
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,280
So I'd rather get work at a gas
station honestly.

496
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Wow.
OK, so here's one piece of

497
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,160
advice for everybody.
Really consider whether or not

498
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,160
you want to start a podcast
studio business and if you are,

499
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,680
think about all of those
different areas.

500
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,200
No, that's not what you get from
it.

501
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,480
It's Billy.
It's what?

502
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,800
It's just don't work with Billy
with this stuff.

503
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,440
I do have a question though.
What is provided in a studio

504
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,600
space like that or what's not
provided?

505
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,880
That's a great question.
Yeah.

506
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,120
Thank you for that question,
Alex.

507
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,280
And let's let's ask, let's ask
Janae, our studio architect.

508
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,760
Janae, what?
Yeah.

509
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,520
What say you?
And most of the studios, what's

510
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,440
provided is they might have
multiple cameras, they might

511
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,680
have multiple audio.
So you get multiple camera angle

512
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,200
footage as well as audio that is
cleaned up so that you can then

513
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,840
use it or put it together.
So a lot of the places that I've

514
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,360
seen, they're out there, they'll
say, hey, for this price, we'll

515
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:29,400
give you all of the raw footage
that you capture here per hour

516
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,160
and you're like, OK.
And if you have a team in place,

517
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,560
I'm like, hey, I got this
footage, take it and make it,

518
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,520
make good with it.
Other places they'll say, you

519
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,880
know what, you can come in here
and for this price, we'll put

520
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,880
your entire episode together,
We'll create extra reels, we'll

521
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,200
create a trailer, all of those
things and it's this price per

522
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160
hour.
So now somebody starting out,

523
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,040
they might be like, OK, that's
pretty cool.

524
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,280
What else do you have offer?
A friend of mine who has a

525
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,720
studio on Florida, he said, you
know what, we have a membership

526
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,880
model at this price per month.
You can come in, record 4

527
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,280
episodes, take the footage and
you're good to go.

528
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,080
But if you want us to work with
it, we can then offer a

529
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,600
different price model.
Again, there's multiple things

530
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,200
that you do get when you are
going to a places place like

531
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,080
this because not only have
they've been doing podcasting

532
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,520
for a while, they know exactly
what a podcaster needs.

533
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,680
So not only are you getting
support, but you're also getting

534
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,160
tools to use that you might not
have funds to allocate and build

535
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,560
for yourself.
Thank you Janae, and something

536
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,440
caught my ear.
Did you say you have a friend

537
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,800
that has a studio in Florida?
Yes, the Biz Brothers OK Studio

538
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,880
in Florida, down in Tampa.
Down in Tampa, OK, I don't think

539
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,240
that.
So this this whole conversation.

540
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,040
It's in Jacksonville.
Jacksonville, OK This whole

541
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,760
conversation, the idea was
inspired by one of my newer

542
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,240
clients who's looking for studio
space and wanted my help.

543
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,400
You know, what are the right
questions to ask?

544
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,320
And that's what inspired this
whole conversation.

545
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,680
And she is in Florida.
And I'll tell you, so far, she's

546
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,080
struggled with finding a studio
that will only rent her the

547
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,600
studio time.
A lot of the studios she has

548
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,800
come across so far, and that's
just a handful, but what she's

549
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,920
come across so far is most of
them want to do everything.

550
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,240
They want you to come in, record
in their studio and then they'll

551
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,320
produce it, they'll edit it,
they'll do all the things.

552
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,000
But she's already hired me to do
that.

553
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,840
So she's finding that
challenging to to find one

554
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,360
that'll just allow her to
record.

555
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,320
And I know they exist because I
have other clients that are

556
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,640
doing it that way.
But for whatever reason, in

557
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,160
Florida, she was having a hard
time.

558
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,800
Maybe we'll talk a little bit
more and I'll get hooked up with

559
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,640
those guys and I can ask them if
they have any, any ideas or

560
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,480
leads that I can pass along to
her.

561
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,080
Dr. You had something right?
Yeah, two things.

562
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,640
One, we just had the grand
opening of something that we've

563
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,160
already talked about on the
show, which is a studio at one

564
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,960
of our local Walmarts here in
Nashville.

565
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:21,520
Now it's only there at Walmart
is at because the property owner

566
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,960
that Walmart, the property that
Walmart is on, that owner

567
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,720
decided to put a studio there.
And I think it's a brilliant

568
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,240
idea putting it like right there
at Walmart.

569
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,320
It's just so great.
So we talked about this, what

570
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,360
about a month ago?
I guess they had their soft open

571
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,040
then, but now they had their
grand open.

572
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,680
So that, that's cool.
That's actually in Franklin.

573
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,960
It's about a 20 minute drive
from me.

574
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,320
I wanted to know, I'm going to
talk about prices a little bit

575
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:56,440
because how would I know what is
completely outlandish?

576
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,960
How dare you, Sir, That kind of
outlandish or hey, that's

577
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,960
reasonable.
How?

578
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,440
How can I gauge that?
OK.

579
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,200
I actually I have some
information that I think can

580
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,400
speak to that.
So I will answer that in a

581
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,440
second.
I saw Sid had a question.

582
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,680
Go ahead, Sid.
Actually, I had a response to

583
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,640
this, but Jonathan's hand went
up first.

584
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,560
OK.
Thank you.

585
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,320
Go ahead, Jonathan, and then
we'll hear from Sid.

586
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,680
Peer Space is your friend.
So I just put in into Peer Space

587
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,960
studios in Florida and there's
125 recording studios in

588
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:35,160
Florida, USA that are rentable
on Peer Space and they range in

589
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,080
price from $60.00 an hour to 150
an hour.

590
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,640
OK, interesting.
All right, there you go.

591
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,560
So that that's really helpful.
Thank you, Jonathan.

592
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,720
And yeah, that's what I'm
finding too.

593
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,400
So what I did earlier this
morning was I went to ChatGPT

594
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,160
and did a deep, deep research
feature.

595
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,280
I took, you know, they have that
feature where they really does a

596
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,880
deep dive into the research.
And I asked it to give me

597
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,160
pricing based on 2025 pricing in
major cities around the United

598
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,639
States.
And what it came up with was,

599
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,639
yeah, it's similar to what
Jonathan said in Florida

600
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,120
specifically, but across the
board, you're looking at

601
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,880
anything anywhere from $75.00 an
hour to maybe up to 160 an hour,

602
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,320
depending on the location and
the services.

603
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:29,840
And I also had a breakdown the
difference between studio space

604
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,480
and studio space plus
production.

605
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:38,000
I'll give you guys those details
for the five major cities that

606
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,920
I've pulled here in a moment.
Let me check back in with Sid.

607
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,960
Yeah, I did a quick Google
search this morning about and I

608
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:51,159
just typed in podcast Studio
near me right And there was a

609
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,239
couple of several that came up.
If you just wanted to rent this

610
00:34:54,239 --> 00:35:01,160
space, It was ours in CN.
Podcast Studio is the one I

611
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,600
found if you just wanted to rent
the space, which is a setup with

612
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,840
lighting and cameras and
microphones and chairs and a set

613
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,160
right, it was $100.00 an hour.
If you wanted them to do their

614
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,880
editing and all that for you, it
was $200.00 an hour.

615
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,920
So it's pretty close to what you
discovered with ChatGPT.

616
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,960
OK, cool, cool.
And yeah, I mean, those are

617
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,160
numbers that I've seen over the
course of the past year to two

618
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,000
years.
So I think I, I believe ChatGPT,

619
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,000
it seems on point and it seems
on point with your Google

620
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,800
search.
What I'm finding here is if we

621
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,840
look at a city like New York, if
you want a studio that you just

622
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,080
want to rent, studio only,
you're looking on average around

623
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,000
$125.00 an hour.
And then if you want full

624
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,240
service rental, it could be
anywhere from 150 to 200 an

625
00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,320
hour.
And that's right like that,

626
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,720
that's averaged out, right.
In other words, they also,

627
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:02,000
you'll find studios that may
have separate packages where

628
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,080
it's not necessarily by the
hour, but we're just taking,

629
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:10,480
we're factoring in those package
prices and averaging them out

630
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,120
into an hourly rate since a lot
of what you're going to see are

631
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,520
hourly rates for studio space.
So we're just trying to make it

632
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,360
easy.
And I know I'm butchering how

633
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,040
I'm trying to explain that.
Los Angeles, $75.00 an hour for

634
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,560
studio only.
Again, these are averages and

635
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:32,280
$100.00 an hour or more for the
full service rental and closer

636
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,480
to Sid, but not exactly Austin,
TX.

637
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,680
Yeah, that's like 120 an hour
for studio only and 125 and up

638
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,680
for full service rentals.
Another free option besides the

639
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,760
libraries.
One of the Chamber of Commerce

640
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,240
in my in my area just put a
podcast space.

641
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,480
So if you're a member of the
Chamber of Commerce, you can use

642
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,080
it.
And it's not full service.

643
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,680
It's just, I believe it's just
microphones and recording

644
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,520
equipment.
All you have to do is just sit

645
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,080
down, plug in and your way to
go.

646
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,320
Awesome.
Yeah, Thank you, Alex.

647
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,800
And by the way, anybody I see
we've got a full audience here

648
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,880
this morning.
And if any of you have any

649
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,720
experience renting studio
spaces, good or bad experiences,

650
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:20,560
we'd like to hear about it.
So come on up.

651
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,640
I want to encourage you to come
up and share on stage.

652
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,840
And if you can't for whatever
reason, sure, share more in the

653
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,000
chat.
We'd we'd love to hear about it.

654
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,920
Janae, I want to talk about red
flags.

655
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,920
What are some red flags we
should look for when we're

656
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,360
renting a podcast studio?
What's something that we should

657
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,000
say, oh, this may not be the
place for me?

658
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,280
Anything we should look out for
Janae?

659
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,880
That's a great question.
One thing that you do might want

660
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,120
to look into is let's say you
find a place there's like hey,

661
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,520
it's 55 bucks an hour.
Go deeper into it.

662
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,840
They might show you that hey,
for 55 an hour, you have to book

663
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,680
a minimum of two hours and then
we only give you 1 video feed or

664
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,600
one audio feed for that price.
If you want additional video

665
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,320
feeds, additional audio, that's
going to add up.

666
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,440
So make sure you look into those
pricing.

667
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,560
I think that would be look into
those experiences, but red flag

668
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,560
wise, great question.
I'm I'm one who away stays away

669
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,080
from red flags or don't think
about it, but I would love to

670
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,400
listen in other people's
experiences here.

671
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,920
Yeah, I can share 1 red flag
that that client I was just

672
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:39,320
telling you about in Florida,
the 1st place that she met with

673
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,480
it was actually first over a
Zoom call and she was telling

674
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,400
them pretty much early on
upfront, hey, you know, I want

675
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,480
to rent space.
I don't need you to do the

676
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,520
production.
I've got somebody I know and

677
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,240
trust and have hired to do that
for me and that's yours truly

678
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,560
and this she said the studio,
the people on the other end of

679
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,360
the Zoom kind of gave her that
cock headed it look like like

680
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,960
what?
Why would you do that?

681
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,400
And they basically said to her,
no, we, we do it all for you and

682
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,440
that's your only option.
And she's like, but I really

683
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,760
just need the studio time and
then maybe somebody to sit with

684
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,520
me to engineer the whole thing.
And they said, no, we can't do

685
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,520
that.
And then here's the big red flag

686
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,440
in my opinion.
They then said to her, what even

687
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,640
if we wanted to do that, we
couldn't because the file format

688
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,080
that we output isn't a typical
normal file format.

689
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,680
Most people can't work with it
and that's the only format we

690
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,600
can spit out.
And I said to her, well, they're

691
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,960
lying to you because if they're
a podcast studio, there's no way

692
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,000
they're only limited to one
unique type of file format.

693
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,720
They need it to be able to
convert to an MP3128 kilobits

694
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:59,320
per second.
It needs needs to fit a certain

695
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,680
format to be able to be accepted
onto platforms like Apple and

696
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,320
Spotify and all the rest.
So when you're, if you're told

697
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,160
something like that, that should
be a big red flag for you.

698
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,680
I'd love to know what format
they use.

699
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,400
Yeah, me too.
Because yeah, it makes no sense.

700
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:26,320
Yeah, it's, yeah, it's clearly.
That's their way of saying A, we

701
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,520
don't want you to work with
other people, we want you to

702
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,640
work with us and B, we're going
to say anything we can to get

703
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,920
the business and we and.
But it's insulting.

704
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,080
It is, you know, it's just so
insulting.

705
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,880
And I know they probably say
this too.

706
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,680
If, if she was a man, they would
probably say that too.

707
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,880
But there's something inherently
thing about she's a woman and

708
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,920
they're feel like a power play.
And does she feel that way?

709
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,320
She.
Did she felt that way too?

710
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,240
And I'll say this though, like
I'll give them the benefit of

711
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,040
the doubt that this isn't a
sexist thing.

712
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,640
I think what this could be is a
studio taking advantage of a new

713
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,000
podcaster who doesn't know
everything about podcasting yet.

714
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,520
And she has admitted to me many
times it's one of the reasons

715
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,680
she hired me is she's not
technically savvy and doesn't

716
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,080
know the insurance and outs and
it intimidates her.

717
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,040
So I would imagine male, female
or gender neutral.

718
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,200
I think it's less about that and
more about taking advantage of a

719
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,000
new podcaster who doesn't know
the insurance and outs yet.

720
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,040
But.
But Mark, this is the part of

721
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:39,320
the of business that just really
is short sighted on a lot of

722
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,080
people.
If she's a new podcast, let's

723
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,600
say she didn't come across as a
new podcaster and all she said,

724
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,880
I mean, even if she is a new
podcaster, hey, listen, I have

725
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,280
someone that's doing my editing.
All I need is the raw feed or

726
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,160
whatever.
Just give me the recordings and

727
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,880
I just want to go about my way,
whether I produce it or not, you

728
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,360
know?
I mean, it's easy money for

729
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,840
them.
Yeah.

730
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:09,280
It's actually less work and
people don't realize how much

731
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,200
business owners ruin sales for
themselves.

732
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,480
I'm with you there.
Yeah.

733
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,880
I mean, it should be a slam
dunk.

734
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,360
And look, I've been doing this
now as far as working

735
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,240
specifically with independent
podcasters for I guess going on

736
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:28,760
six years.
And I think that what people

737
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,840
need to realize is we can, we
can we do this already.

738
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,200
We are independent podcasters
and we like to save money,

739
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,120
right.
And if we're, if we're getting

740
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,640
businesses that are pushing us
away because we're looking to

741
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,840
spend our dollars, how do I say
appropriately, we want to spend

742
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,400
it on just studio time?
We know how to do this.

743
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,640
We can do all the editing.
You're, you're losing business,

744
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,840
you're turning people away
because you you want to just do

745
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,040
it all for them.
And I think that that's going to

746
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,680
hurt you, especially with
independent podcasters as a

747
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,800
business.
And by the way, I have been

748
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,080
thinking lately about opening up
my own studio, even though Billy

749
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,520
has made me second guess that.
But I have thought about that at

750
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,160
times doing it in the Asheville
area because we really don't

751
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,000
have any.
But but Mark, would you want to

752
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,760
work with Billy?
Yeah, if he wants to run the

753
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,040
studio for me, I would be happy.
To and I don't mean that to be

754
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,960
funny.
I understand what he's saying

755
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,120
because when you have people
using your your equipment, it's

756
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,040
very, yeah, frustrating because
something always breaks and, and

757
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,800
yeah, it's a catch 22, but I
know Dr. wants to pop.

758
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,840
Yeah.
And I will say I was just

759
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,760
thinking about it and I don't
know why this popped in my head

760
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,280
as you were sharing.
But I think one thing that I

761
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,800
would say I would look for if
I'm going to go rent a studio

762
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:53,560
space, especially if I'm not an
experienced podcaster, I want

763
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,480
somebody in the studio.
I want an engineer, I want

764
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,880
somebody running the equipment
so that if something goes wrong,

765
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,680
I don't have to stress about it,
right?

766
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,760
The to me, that's an advantage
of renting out a studio is to

767
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,960
have somebody who knows the
equipment that can be there for

768
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,600
you if something goes wrong.
That's an just an important area

769
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,440
for me.
Dr. Go ahead.

770
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,840
I'm going to preface this
question with a metaphor.

771
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,960
So before I was married, if I
had to take my car to a

772
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:30,040
mechanic, it would be there's
just no way I would be so out of

773
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,720
my realm.
They could charge me everything

774
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:37,040
and and there'd be like, you
know, well, you just need a

775
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,960
little Freon or whatever goes
into a car.

776
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,400
I have no idea.
So knowing so my brother-in-law

777
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,960
used to come with me to talk car
language.

778
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,840
Do you know what I mean to the
mechanic.

779
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,240
So with that in mind, have you
thought about asking your client

780
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:57,800
for give me a couple of
telephone numbers?

781
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,720
Let me make the call for you
just to, you know, have you

782
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,840
thought about that I.
Have.

783
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,040
And I did tell her that.
And yeah, she's compiled a list.

784
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,520
And when I get back from
volunteering next week, I'm

785
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,560
going to make some calls either
with her or I'll just make some

786
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,160
initial calls for.
Her.

787
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,040
I don't think it's a a man woman
thing.

788
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,120
I really think it's a experience
inexperience.

789
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,560
Well, yeah, it could go.
It could go either way.

790
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,840
I mean, if you want to go back
to my metaphor, I know nothing

791
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,920
about cars and what's under the
hood and but my brother-in-law

792
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,240
knows enough to talk the talk.
What I'm saying is if Mark

793
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:47,160
actually educates her enough and
if she's open to it like you or

794
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,160
Ashley could probably, as long
as you know what the going rate

795
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:56,000
is, you could probably negotiate
just as good of a deal as.

796
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,360
Anyone else as anyone else?
I think in this world I'm like

797
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,960
in cars, I'm just using cars
because it's such a cliche.

798
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,040
As long as you're knowledgeable,
I think.

799
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,040
I think really in this world,
knowledge is power and the lingo

800
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,800
is power.
But yeah, no, I see what you're

801
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,760
saying.
Absolutely.

802
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,200
I do think, and I have
questions, I should have had

803
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,240
something set up.
See, OK, here's a lesson for all

804
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:25,400
you podcasters.
If I was smart and prepared, I

805
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,600
would have had a CHEAT SHEET all
ready for you and a call to

806
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,760
action for you to do something
so that if you wanted my CHEAT

807
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,160
SHEET, I could send it to you.
In the meantime, if you want my

808
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,400
CHEAT SHEET, what I'll say is
e-mail me

809
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:47,200
markmarc@ironicmedia.com, put in
the subject line studio CHEAT

810
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,480
SHEET, and I will send you a
list of the questions that I put

811
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,120
together for my client to ask so
that she does come across as

812
00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:00,280
knowledgeable or knowledgeable
enough to a studio so that you

813
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,560
can ask the good questions.
I think that once you start

814
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,680
asking good questions again,
male, female, gender neutral,

815
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,280
inexperienced, experience goes
out the window because you sound

816
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,760
like you know what you're
talking about, right?

817
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,720
For example, you could ask
things like what kind of

818
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:19,720
microphones and recording
equipment do you use?

819
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,560
Do you offer video recording?
Will an engineer be present,

820
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,560
present?
And then here's one that I know

821
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,560
would show that you know what
you're talking about.

822
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:33,200
Do I get a multi?
Do I get multi track files or

823
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,360
just a final mix?
Can I plug in myself?

824
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,880
What do you?
Mean can I use my own?

825
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,040
Can I just use my own computer?
Yeah.

826
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,560
Or.
My own microphone.

827
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:45,320
Maybe you have your own, not.
Even microphone.

828
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,040
But can I just plug into the
mixer?

829
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,520
Into the microphone?
All I need is the space.

830
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,120
You don't need the recordings.
I just need a mic and a mixer.

831
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,400
Yeah.
What formats do you use?

832
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,080
Yeah.
Can I get all the videos like

833
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,360
like Jenny said?
How many cameras do I get?

834
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,760
Yep, yeah, I think that's a
great question too, because most

835
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,000
of these studios these days do
have video options.

836
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,600
And I would ask especially if
there's more than me, let's say

837
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,120
it's me and a Co host, me, a Co
host and a guest.

838
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,960
Those kinds of questions then
raises questions like how many

839
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,920
cameras are you using?
If I have two or three people, I

840
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,920
would prefer personally to have
at least two cameras.

841
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,640
Ideally, I would have three.
I'd have one camera isolated on

842
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,000
me.
I'd ask for 11 camera isolated

843
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,440
on my guest and one on the both
of us.

844
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,600
Like that should be the basic
set up from a studio's

845
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,720
perspective for sure.
Anyone else want to add anything

846
00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:51,520
before we wrap up on this
conversation about studios and

847
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,680
renting studios?
Yeah, go ahead, Ashley.

848
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,680
Thank you. 2 things I would.
Ask.

849
00:48:56,720 --> 00:49:00,520
Do they offer a trial like for
example, if you're newly coming

850
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,440
to the studio and you're not
sure if you fully want to

851
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,600
commit, you're not sure if you
like what they offer, I would

852
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,640
ask, you know, can we have a
trial period before I sign up

853
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:14,600
for a full blown subscription?
And the other question to ask is

854
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,840
many interchangeable props and
sets do they have, because I'm

855
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,240
not, I'm not trying to say
anything negative about our

856
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:26,160
local studios here, but I have
noticed that the podcast I'm

857
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,760
seeing coming out of them,
although they're all different

858
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,800
shows, they kind of have the
same look because they all have

859
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,800
the same set.
I'm with you there, Ashley.

860
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:39,600
Yeah, I would love to see and
work with a studio that has some

861
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,840
versatility because if it's a
popular studio, well, then it's

862
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,520
going to start looking like my
podcast is going to start

863
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,600
looking like a lot of other
local podcasts.

864
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,760
And granted, I don't think
there's going to always be a ton

865
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,120
of crossover, but to me, I want,
I want my show to stand out.

866
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,000
I want it to feel unique and
there are lots of things that

867
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,760
podcast studios can do to help
you do that.

868
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,880
Whether it's with green screens,
whether it's as simple as maybe

869
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,840
it's a monitor that's behind you
that's on camera that, you know,

870
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,760
has your logo in it, even just
something like that, just to

871
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,840
change up the different logos.
And maybe if they have LED

872
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,600
lighting that you can change
colors of the room so that you

873
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,800
can really brand it to your
brand colors as opposed to just

874
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,640
being stuck with whatever
they've got there, right.

875
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,760
So I think those are great
questions, Ashley.

876
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,840
Yeah, thank you for that.
OK.

877
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,960
I think then we're going to wrap
things up here this morning,

878
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:39,680
dear, did you say?
Yeah.

879
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,120
What plans do you have for
today, your birthday you're

880
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,480
going to be doing?
So yeah, thank you for asking.

881
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,160
I'm in the Atlantic City and my
plan today is to take it easy.

882
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,960
I cleared my schedule today.
I so I have a little work to do

883
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,800
but no calls and it's finally
going to be a nice day here.

884
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,080
We've had overcast weather all
week.

885
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,160
It's supposed to be 78 and sunny
here.

886
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,120
The the beach is right across
the way here from the building.

887
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,040
I can see it from my in laws
condo.

888
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,240
And so we'll probably spend a
little time at the pool.

889
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,200
I am a pool person over beach
person.

890
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,560
Sorry, don't hate.
But yeah, I mean, I do love

891
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,360
going on the beach, but it's
just the convenience of the pool

892
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,840
is my preference.
So I'll probably spend a little

893
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,840
pool time, a little beach time.
Admittedly, even though I've

894
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,560
seen Fantastic Four, I haven't
seen it on IMAX and I'm dying

895
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,200
too.
And there's an IMAX theater not

896
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,840
too far.
I may try to squeeze that in.

897
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,760
And this evening, my parents are
in town as well.

898
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,640
So I'll be having dinner tonight
with my folks, with my in laws,

899
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,400
and of course, with my wife Amy,
celebrating the birthday this

900
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,480
evening.
So thank you for asking, DRI.

901
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:52,280
Appreciate that.
Awesome.

902
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,360
Yeah.
Awesome.

903
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,560
Happy birthday buddy.
Thank you.

904
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,880
When are you?
When are you leaving?

905
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:01,960
For my for the volunteering,
yeah, that is Friday afternoon.

906
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,880
I am out of here and I'm not
back until the following

907
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,880
Saturday.
OK.

908
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,120
No, I was just going to say
because you're not that far

909
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,000
away.
Yeah, that's true.

910
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,240
But actually I'm leaving.
Yeah, I'm leaving Jersey

911
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:17,440
tomorrow if you, if you come to
the Jersey Shore.

912
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,040
Let's get together, Alex.
Yeah.

913
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:23,400
You're not the Jersey Show.
You're in Atlantic City, which

914
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,040
is that's.
True.

915
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,240
That's true.
That's true.

916
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,520
New Jersey is not its own state.
We're either part of New York or

917
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,760
Pennsylvania or Philly or we we
don't.

918
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,240
We don't identify with anybody.
So, but have a wonderful time.

919
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,880
Thank you.
And by the way, if you're

920
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,880
curious, everyone, we will still
have shows all next week Tuesday

921
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,360
through Friday.
I will try to pop in when I can,

922
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,680
but it will be a little more
challenging for me to do that.

923
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,880
So the the crew has already got
plans.

924
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,080
Everybody will keep things
rolling for us.

925
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,360
Thank you in advance to all of
you for picking up the baton as

926
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,240
I am out.
And again, we are back tomorrow,

927
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:05,320
7:00 AM Eastern, of course,
celebrating our wins from the

928
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,840
week as we do every Friday.
And we'll probably dig into the

929
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,720
mailbag a bit before we start
sharing wins.

930
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:14,680
So come join us.
Help us answer some podcaster

931
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,440
questions tomorrow morning, 7:00
AM Eastern.

932
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,840
And until then, make it a great
day.

933
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:21,960
Everybody.
Take care.