373 - Building a Spin-Off Podcast Without Restarting

0:05 Good morning podcasting Morning Chat. Today is Friday, September 19th, 2025 and today one listener's podcast is getting love from both parents and kids. But now comes the hard part. How do you serve both without starting from scratch? So if you're listening live on Clubhouse, hit the share button, bottom left hand side of the screen and share it however Clubhouse lets you. And if you're listening live on YouTube or via podcast, please share this episode with a fellow podcaster. And now give me about 30 seconds and we'll get things rolling. Thanks for being here. Good morning again, podcasting, Morning Chat. Thanks so much for being here.

1:24 I am your host, Mark Ronic, and on stage with me, I'm giggling. I'll tell you in a second. We have producer Ashley Feller, Alex Baelish, Jonathan Howard, Dr. Fey and Matt Bliss. And then there's Sid Meadows, who's somehow in the audience. Here we go. Usually here on Clubhouse, our team automatically pops up on stage because of the back end and how we set it up, but Sid and Matt both were popped in the audience this morning first thing and then we were having trouble bringing Sid up. Anyway, welcome to the show. Today is Friday, so we will be sharing our wins from the week toward the second-half of the show.

2:07 As I teased, we're going to dig into a topic that I feel like is a good. A good what? What's the word I'm looking for? It's appropriate considering the conversation that we had yesterday about rebranding and it's not quite a rebrand, but that's why I think it's good to dig into it today and not part of yesterday because I think it would have brought us a down a different Rd. But here we are. So before we do as I've been doing the last few days, it's our countdown to the Empowered Podcasting Conference. We are officially one week away. 7 days from right now we will be doing the show live.

2:50 We'll be doing the show live from Charlotte, NC at the hotel at the Hyatt Centric leading up to Friday's activities and I am excited about that. We did that last year and had a blast doing that and I think we'll have more people from the podcasting morning chat community there this time. So I'm hoping Sid might take a break from his walks and join us live in person on Friday morning. So I won't be able to, I'll be on a plane or on my way to the airport because my flight is at 8:00 in the morning. So I'll be, I'll be driving to the airport. I will miss, I'll be on the call or on the in the room as much as I can, but I will be driving. So you'll miss me by a few hours. I get there around noon, I think. And good morning, by the way.

3:37 Yes. Good morning, Sid. Did you have something, Dr. Well, I wanted to know where you are mentally because you've been very open about your challenges with ADHD and a little bit of anxiety. And where are you mentally right now? And can you compare it to where you were mentally this time last year? And maybe this time last month. Yeah, I I am in great spirits. I think Sid called me out when I had that call with him the other day after the show. Just how when I was sharing part of my journey, you know, it, it was feeling maybe to some people like, uh oh, is this whole thing going to happen? And quite frankly, I was in that headspace too, wondering if I was going to be able to pull it off because there were a lot of challenges, both personally, as they are shared with my ADHD stuff and coming off the medication for ADHD and trying to navigate.

4:42 Yeah, right. Exactly, exactly. If it hadn't been for my high blood pressure, I would have probably still been on that stuff. But I'm actually glad that I'm off it now. And I feel like I'm finding my rhythm a lot more. I'm finding finding my ways of navigating life and business and all the things without the medication. And I think as far as the conference itself and my attitude around it now that really pretty much all the pieces are in place and everything's ready to go, that anxiety is a lot less than it's been. I'm feeling really good about it. And I've got to say this, this is something I told Sid that I recognize. And again, this, a lot of it probably was my ADHD, But now that I've got a little more of a clear head and looking back at it, I think for me it was let me think if I can formulate my thoughts at seven O 6 in the morning. I'll just say it was just really challenging for me to to move all the pieces, get them all together. And I got there right.

5:48 I think that once I started really taking the small steps toward the things that I didn't want to do, because again, with ADHD and the lack of motivation, the lap of lack of dopamine, I think once I just, I started saying to myself, Mark, just do something. Just do 1 little thing towards that thing that I need to do. And look, this is something that I've learned a lot about over time. Taking those small action steps can create momentum and when I'm struggling with my ADHD, those kinds of tools sometimes go out the window. And I finally kind of reconnected with the tool, started just forcing myself when I was in AI, don't want to do that phase.

6:33 I just said do something. And what I found was it did create the momentum and I started doing a lot more than just that one little thing. And that really helped get not only get things done, but it got me excited once I started seeing, I'm putting these pieces into place and then seeing results from it, right? Like all of a sudden I started taking action and other things for the event started happening. Ticket sales started going up. We had a few again yesterday. So it, you know, we're, we're inching toward our goal of 150 people attending this event. And I do think it has to do with creating the momentum, creating positive momentum.

7:16 I think I'm learning a lot through this process and actually putting the tools into place that I've learned a lot about over the past, let's say, handful of years as I've been going on my own personal growth journey. Are you documenting as you go? Like, OK, ran into a snag on this one, so next time I got a blah, blah, blah. Because sometimes once you get to your goal, it's hard to look back and say, oh, what was that thing that I had a problem with? Yeah, remember. Yeah, that's a great point and yes, we are. So my Operations manager, Andrea, she's been doing a great job of documenting those things.

7:57 I'm documenting those things as well. And during the event, we'll continue to document those things because we'll see if all the efforts leading up to it, you know, actually worked with everything kind of fell into place the way it was supposed to. And if not, let's take some notes about it and see how we can course correct it the following year. So yeah, I think we are doing a good job of that and we'll see what we'll see what happens. Yeah. Thank you, Dr. And yes, empoweredpodcasting.com, if you want to attend, there's still time to get tickets. Just go to empoweredpodcasting.com. Click the order tickets now and I should say, by the way, a little incentive for you. If you are attending the Empowered Podcasting Conference, you will have a chance to win a brand new Shure MV7 Plus courtesy of Shure and the Professional Podcast Airs Association.

8:57 So that's just added incentive. Besides meeting all the great people that'll be there, learning from all the great people that'll be there, you could win a pretty damn good Mike. Sid, did you have a question? Not really a question, just a reminder that if you're coming in on Friday, to be sure you register for the party on Friday night. Mark, what was it you sent me? Sorry. So sorry. Yeah, no, that's totally lost it my brain. I appreciate you bringing it up. We're doing the happy hour and that is Friday night, the 26th and we last minute worked something out with Riverside. Riverside is Co sponsoring the event and part of that arrangement they're buying the first round of drinks. So we'll have drink tickets for everybody and we're asking people to register ahead of time. It's not the end of the world if you don't, but we're asking you to register ahead of time so that we can just get a good headcount as far as those first drinks go. And this is open even if you decide not to come to the conference.

10:01 But for some reason you're in the Charlotte area. This is something that you're more than welcome to come to and join us. It's outs. It's away from the event, just like 5 minutes away at a separate location, and we want to welcome every podcaster and any podcaster in the area to come join us for that. So I'll share that link here in just a minute. I don't have it handy, and I should have. Thank you, Sid, for bringing that up. I'll share that here, and I'll share that in the show notes as well. OK, let's dig into the mailbag, shall we? Before we get into our wins from the week, I thought, like I said, that this would be an appropriate one to dig into after some of yesterday's rebranding conversation. It's got a different spin than yesterday. Comes from someone named Shay, and Shay posted this in actually the Buzz Sprout Facebook group.

10:52 Shay says. I host a history podcast and I have had a lot of requests to create a version just for kids. I'm torn over how exactly to do that. Should I just add the kid episodes to the regular podcast clearly labeled As for kids? Or do I create a whole separate podcast just for kids? I see pros and cons of both. I don't want kids to get confused and accidentally listen to an episode an adult episode if they're all on there together. Although the adult episodes are mostly kid appropriate and many kids already listen to them. But I also don't want to start all over from scratch with a new show and also pay a whole lot more in hosting fees for something that I'm not sure yet even will take off.

11:39 What would you do? Keep them all together as the same podcast but clearly label the kids episodes or create a whole new podcast just for kids? The regular show is history fix. That's the name History Fix and the kid version will be History Fix Kids, just to give you an idea of how similar the 2 will be. I'm going to ask some questions to really pull out all the different details I think that need to be considered if you're going to do something like this. So how do you think kids and parents typically discover podcasts? Let's start there. Would a separate kids feed make it easier for them to find the right content? What are we thinking?

12:24 How do we use search for kids podcast now you put kids podcast in? Right. A lot of apps that are specific to kids listening to podcasting, although I'm sure there could be. Yeah, history for kids. That would probably be what I would put in the search history for kids. Yep, Alex did. Did you want to say something? I would just put it on YouTube in the beginning and say screw it, and then see if it's going to go and see if he wants to be bothered with it. Then make it its own feed and promote it through his main podcast. I know that might not be the podcast the way, but it's a lot easier in the beginning. It's kind of like a soft launch.

13:07 And I mean, yeah, you can make it its own feed. I think that would be kind of neat. But if you make it its own feed, are you going to do all the things that go along with it? I don't know. I do like that idea, Alex. I like that a lot of using YouTube as the testing ground, especially when we're talking about kids shows because we know kids are on YouTube a lot. Yeah, exactly. Thank you, Alex. I saw Sid wanted to say something. Go ahead, Sid. So I like what Alex is saying a lot and just depending on whether he's a YouTube caster or I heard that somebody the other day say vodcaster. I think it would be a great idea to test it inside of his current feed and basically maybe dedicate 1 episode a month to a kid specific show. Test it, look at the analytics and if it's getting really good feedback, then I would take it and move it to its own feed and create his own show.

14:03 It might even be a really fun idea here for him to create a history network where he's got his adult show and his kids show and he's kind of building out a network of shows under this umbrella of history. It's a way to keep them together as well. I mean, instead of cost more money, obviously you're going to have to pay additional hosting fees and stuff like that, but test it inside your current feed dedicated to a kids show once a month and then look at the analytics and move on to, if it's working, move on to creating its own separate feed. I like that. Yeah. Thank you, Sid. And yeah, as far as the costs go, I know that like, for example, if you're using Buzz Sprout, if you get the, I think it's the second tier available, I think you then can have up to five different podcast feeds within the one account.

14:51 I believe that's how I understand it. And there are other platforms like Buzz Sprout that do the same. Yeah. But you still have to pay per feed. No, I think what I've read recently is if you get their $39.00 a month plan, you get up to five podcasts within that one account. This is coming straight from Buzz Sprout. I'll even make sure to share this link in the show notes as well, just in case anyone else 'cause I know there's been confusion around that before. So I think that is the case. Dr. Did you want to add something? Well, number one, there are free platforms as well. I have a client that's on Red Circle and I mean it's been a couple years for us on red circle and I have 0 complaints about them.

15:40 Also, I was thinking that maybe because we're always complaining about so much screen time, get off the screens. So I was thinking that maybe you could market the kids show as something to fall asleep listening to and still have it as an audio. So you're getting them off the screen and it's something to listen to at night. And maybe the angle would be how kids have changed history. For instance, who was the kid that was the king in? Was it Siam or Egypt or something like that?

16:20 Egypt I. Think yes, yeah. Yeah, that could be the theme of how kids have changed history and. But make it like build it out like a night time listening to the show while you're in bed kind of thing. And maybe you might want to do it, you know, the last Wednesday of the month. Whatever show, whatever day your regular show is on, make it that same day, but do it the last weekday of that month. Yeah, I think that's a great idea. And I think, you know, it's easy for your audience to remember if you just always say, yeah, we're doing history Fix kids the last Wednesday of every month. Yeah, that's just a good branding, a good marketing. GR You want to put kids to sleep? I.

17:07 Do and hey, Matt, I'm coming to you in just a second. I did want to call out that several people are sharing in the chat a few different platforms to consider based on some of the things we're sharing already. Dave says Kids Pod is a screen free podcast app for kids. And I know Matt gives a vote for Captivate FM as far as having multiple shows under one plan. And I'm looking here for some others as well. OK, so let's go to Matt. Matt, good morning to you. What did you want to add to all this? I think the opportunity here for this bloke isn't to just like copy paste and direct the content to a new feed that does exactly the same thing but directed for kids. I think this is an opportunity to get them the information, the episodes directly into the kids rooms without parental intervention required and in a way that allows you to get almost automatic compensation for it. I think a premium product like a small digital player that comes with episodes on it, similar to devices that kids have with stories.

18:16 It's a player and you can buy NFC cards that you tap against the player and it plays a story. There's very dedicated devices like that directed for kids that can play that content. And I think this is a unique opportunity for him to not just duplicate another podcast feed and count how many children have downloaded his episodes for a new feed. But you know, have a look on Aliexpress, see what kind of really cheap playable speaker embedded devices you can load an entire podcast feed on and get parents to pay $3040 for a device and see what that uptake is like.

19:00 It's a little bit of extra work, but it it depends on what the goals are and, and where they should go with it and what their plans are. Whether it's even a show that they're trying to monetize, I don't know. But I think that the kids market is a market to think differently because they are a different audience. They come at it in a different way. And like the example I put in the the room chat, thinking about whether it should be a separate feed or the same feed. I compared watching television and if you've got your kids in front of TV watching Bluey and then the TV accidentally recommends Human Centipede to after that, how horrified are you going to be and how quick are you going to get on that remote? And how entranced are the kids going to be that they're not even going to complain about it?

19:45 And it's not to that level. Obviously that's a very extreme case, but you know, you don't want to go from here's the unique history of how kids interacted with the industrial revolution and then have it move on to the Hitler Ugand and how they contributed to Nazi Germany taking over the rest of Europe. And I think it just has to be different. That's my main point. But I think there's some unique opportunities there to tackle it differently. Thank you, Matt. And I overall agree with you. And we do know that from this podcaster, we do know that kids have been already listening to the regular podcast. And by the way, the person's name is Shay. I'm assuming Shay is a woman and I don't know how Shea identifies so I personally am just going to say she.

20:33 I know most of you been saying he. We don't know. Anyway, I think that she has said that kids are already listening to it. The show that she's already producing is for the most part pretty kid friendly kid appropriate or her words. And I do feel like we're, I'm sensing from the post here that she's concerned about creating extra work without really knowing if it's going to take off. I personally would tend to lean towards something similar to what Dr. is sharing, where if you want to really test the waters here, yeah, put it in your own feed. I just wouldn't do it often because if you're making specifically episodes for kids, you might turn off your adult audience if you're doing that too much in the same feed.

21:24 So that's why I like D Rs idea where we're we're just saying once a month, the last Wednesday of the month, we're doing the kid, you know, the history. What is it called? Whatever it is for kids history fix kids at something like Alex too, where he said maybe you just try it on YouTube and see how that goes for a little bit. I appreciate the idea of testing the waters if you don't know, and it also might help save you a little bit of money. I'm on the fence. Rez has been waiting patiently on stage. I want to make sure. Rez, is there anything you wanted to add to this? I definitely would not do a separate feed. I if I understand correctly, this is a podcast where parents are probably going to make their kids listen to it. The kids are not probably going to willingly listen to it if I'm not understanding.

22:11 It's probably a little more rare that kids would be off searching for history podcasts on their own. I haven't. Been around children like my nephews and his friends and they they're not going to volunteer to listen to to a podcast in my experience, but yeah. And any podcast, I would argue that like I, I, I think more and more kids and according to a lot of the studies that we've reported before, a lot of kids are in fact now listening to podcasts. I specifically was suggesting I don't know how many kids would be searching for history podcasts specifically, but who knows. Dr. Did you want to say something? This is coming from a child free woman, so I don't know, but my inclination was that we have to categorize the age when we say kids. That's a big umbrella that we're putting over it. I'm getting vibes like, you know, it's bedtime. Come on.

23:08 You know the kind of the younger. Yeah, and that's and it's usually story time at bedtime with kids. Story time kids and making that podcast a little bit more immersive with some different voices, with some music in the background that is more kid conducive. So yeah, I mean, kids like story time and story time could be about something back in history. So I think that this would be a a really good go for them. Interesting points. Again, based on what we've got, the information that this person has provided, it sounds like they have kids listening already because this, it sounds like this podcaster wasn't necessarily ever thinking about doing a kids version, but people, her audience are asking for it. That's what's prompted this whole thing for this person. So we know that she potentially has an audience for it. And again, I think my personal opinion is don't change the format instead of the term dumb it down. Don't kid it down for just for the sake of trying to appeal to a bigger audience, because you might then push away the older audience, right?

24:28 So instead, yeah, I still think really making an episode that you are specifically targeting kids. I think that that makes sense to me, as long as you are sprinkling it in at first if you're trying to avoid starting a whole separate show right away. I think you're giving kids too less credit. But Alex, you're not going to necessarily sit Lucy down and watch something on The History Channel that's made for grown-ups, even if the language is clean. Let's say it's on World War 2. Would you sit her in front of something at The History Channel or something that was made for kids to better understand World War 2?

25:09 She's my kid. Sometimes she just has to suck it up and sometimes she'll learn. And I don't mean that to be funny. You want to get middle schoolers? You want to get elementary school kids? You want to get high schoolers? Well, again, I think this also goes back to something Dr. was saying that it depends on the age range, right? Like, we're going to make a very different type of podcast for kids that are, let's say, you know, 6 to 10 years old versus kids that are 12 to 18 years old. All I know is Sid agreed with me and Matthew. Like what I said, I'm done for the bad. OK, I'm so done. Congratulations. Yes. All right, let's go to Jonathan and then we'll check in with. Matt, you're wrong. I think we're missing a really important part of this, which is what you just mentioned.

25:55 They need to go back to their audience and see what age groups is looking for it, what they like about the podcast, and what is going to work for these people that are asking. Because without that, you're creating a podcast for 2 to 20 year olds and that's six different podcasts. So I think really their first step is go back to the people that are asking and find out what they need, what they want so that you have at least a baseline to go off of. That would be my first and only suggestion at this point is to get that information and then once you have that you can make a much better decision. Yeah, do your market research both with your audience and a larger audience, right.

26:38 Like there are plenty of studies out there that are saying that shows what age ranges are listening to podcasts. So maybe you could find some information there as well as pulling your own audience. I think that's very appropriate. I agree with you, Jonathan. Matt, did you want to add something? Maybe we should get psychological with it because I don't think I've heard, I haven't heard anything yet that says the podcast is inappropriate for kids to listen to. It's just that the parents are asking for a kids version of what would otherwise be regular episodes. So let's get psychological with it. Let's create a adults only feed of the history fix.

27:20 And then by comparison, the regular feed is so normal and so toned down that they don't need to make a kids feed, they just need to make a pay to play Not safe for work history podcast. Just ignore that one. Jonathan, did you want to say something? I was just saying then you're still talking to multiple audiences with one show, and that's not where the success really lies when you're looking to market something. True, you're getting. Maybe it's that, that thing we bring up often, which is too many things means people won't do anything with any of them. And the one other area we're not, we haven't focused on yet is by creating separate feeds. This is something pro creating 2 feeds is you may have more unique, or I should just say unique monetization opportunities, right?

28:10 If you're, if you have a separate show that's geared just toward kids, well, now you can get very specific types of advertisers that are trying to target kids and parents. I think that's something worth considering, especially again, if your audience is clamoring for it. If your audience is saying they want a kids version and you do a little more research to Jonathan's point, from, you know, from your audience, you may have a, a new monetization stream. And I think that's worth considering. It will be more challenging to market it to advertisers if you're doing a kid friendly or it's kid specific episode versus a kid friendly episode.

28:51 I really think that sometimes parents are a little too crazy about. It sure, yeah, that can happen. I. Think that's part of the problem because history is not pretty. You can make it as kid friendly as you want, but you can't have it both ways in some ways. It doesn't sound like this person's fearful of it not being appropriate for kids. I just think it's a specific direction that people are asking her for. And I understand and and I feel bad for her because she's in a very weird position that people that work with kid friendly products have to deal with. It's never going to be kid friendly enough. It's never going to be harsh, you know, adult enough. And you have to find that balance. And maybe Dr. is right.

29:37 She should have maybe a couple of special episodes. I think that where it could become more popular is if you're making a show specific for kids on history or whatever the heck it is. If you're making it specifically for kids, well, now you've created a family event, a family affair. You're you're now, you're now showing the audience, the parents. Hey, I've got content that you can sit down with and listen to with your kids, ask questions with your kids as opposed to if you're just marketing it to adults, that's not even necessarily a thought for them to consider that, oh, let's sit down with the whole family and listen to this on a road trip.

30:19 They're probably thinking just subliminally, they're probably thinking, OK, this is for me, this is for adults. You know, I'm not playing this for my kids just because it's not an option. It's not something to consider. But if you're saying I have a specific show for kids about history, that opens a door and to potentially a wider audience. Can I add in real quick? I think the way I would look at it is, I would say what an amazing opportunity this is, what an amazing gift this is. Her audience is giving her feedback. They're telling her things that they like about her show. They're telling her things they'd like to see from her show. Now it's just up to her to go do the work, right? To go ask the questions like she's asking in the group to meet with a podcast coach, right?

31:01 To self reflect on what it is she wants to do and how she wants to do it, and then take the next step with it. And that decision, it could be, I don't want to do anything, right? The decision could be, I'm going to do what Dr. said and put one show in a month, right? The condition should be, could be I'm going to make an entire new feed, right? But I view this as an as a gift. Like her audience is talking to her. And how many of us desire on almost a regular basis to hear from her audience? She needs to listen to them. She's a research. She's to figure out what she wants to do and take that next step. Love that. Thank you, Sid, and thank you for wrapping this part of the conversation up So eloquently.

31:42 I appreciate that. And now I'm going to ask anybody who wants to share their wins from this past week to come up on stage and join us. Thank you, Yvonne, for joining us. I see Rez wants to ask something or has something else he wants to add. We'll come to you in a second. So please come join us if you're listening live in the audience right now and share any wins that you'd like to celebrate with us this week. I don't care how big or small you are judging it to be. It does not matter to me. So getting out, as I say, getting out of bed in the morning every day this week, making your days work as best you can. If that's your win, awesome, Bring it.

32:25 Bring it up this morning. And if you successfully launched a podcast, that to me is just as worthwhile of celebrating as you getting out of bed every morning. So whatever it is, just bring it and rez. What did you want to share a win or did you have something you wanted to say about this conversation we've been having? Oh yeah, just want to share a win. Basically I started my new season. First episode was done last night, keeping it between 20 to 30 minutes long and yeah, I think it went well. It's just a lot of money. I'm realizing I have to be paying a lot of money for all the tools. To be honest with you. That's my win for the week. OK, two things. One, do you want to tell everyone the name of your podcast if they want to go check it out? It's called Social Mix Hub HUB.

33:12 The teaser clips are always on my Instagram. Reza G Life and the Instagram for the podcast The Social Mix Hub. Thank you for letting me share that. Yeah. You're welcome. And Rez, when you talk about all this money that you're spending, what are some of the big tools that you're using that you feel like is really expensive? First of all, cap cut has gotten real expensive. There's captions app which is really great. I I can't live without the captions app if I'm doing this stuff. What? Are you paying for the captions app? I'm on a free trial with all this stuff right now, Mark, but I'm going to have to once I get started a new daytime job too.

33:54 So once I get a paycheck, I'm going to have to and then, you know, start paying. I've noticed a trend that these apps have all gotten more expensive than they were a few years ago. What else is there? Just a Riverside app alone? And then the RSS feed for Buzz route is like 19 bucks a month. So it's adding up quickly. Yeah. Well, I would say, you know, once, once you find the tools that are working for you, hopefully you'll be able to eliminate some of them. For example, you you probably won't need cap cut and captions to make your clips or do your editing. You will probably won't need both. And then also, you know, again, if you're looking, and I'm just saying this to anybody looking to save money, you know, if you're somebody like Rez who is using Riverside, you can create the short clips just like you do in cap cut, for example.

34:44 I know there are no templates that you can use yet, which, you know, cap cut captions, They have templates that you can work from, whereas this is a little more using Riverside's a little more from scratch. But I still think it's a good alternative if you're looking to save some money and and some efficiency as well by having a one stop shop like Riverside and Jonathan saying captions is now 25 bucks a month, which, yeah, that's definitely gone up since say last year around this time. You're, you're absolutely right. I, I don't think I'll continue on with captions when I already, if I already have cap cut because cap cut is pretty capable of, of generating the captions. And the only thing I like about captions is there's these features that they have like the eye contact and a few other features that are very unique to it. So.

35:33 Riverside has the eye contact thing as well. Really. Yep. Oh, interesting. OK. Yeah, they're really doing a good job of trying to become that all in And that might be something of interest to you, Dr., because I know you use Canva to make video clips. I do I need to check that out a little bit? Yeah, you may want to play with that. All right, cool.

36:15 Thank you, Rez, and congratulations on your launch or of your new season. Looking forward to checking that out. And Yvonne's on stage with us as well. Yvonne, good morning. How are you feeling with your roller skating injury? And do you have any wins you'd like to share with us this week? I actually feel pretty darn good considering. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I'm making really good progress with healing. And it inspired a really good clubhouse room that I host every Wednesday. The topic ended up being slowing down to speed up. You know, when you're injured, you got to rethink how you do everything. And I'm looking for the opportunities in this process to, to, you know, kind of go, oh, OK, isn't that interesting? And, and where's that leading me? So, and I'll, I'll take that as a win. And I made myself go to a, an in person networking event for a women's business development council here in Connecticut and ended up meeting a couple of great new people that might, you know, I, we all left saying, I think we, I think we met the people we were supposed to come here and meet today. And, and we all decided to leave at that point and we've been in touch since.

37:38 So I'm like, wow, OK, that, that was cool. And I usually dread networking events. So I, I went in and thought, what if I just make a really nice connection with one person and I don't put anything on it? And, and that is exactly what ended up happening. So yeah. Yeah, I think that's such congratulations. And I think that's such a valid point that we could all walk away with really is, you know, when we have these nerves going into something like a networking event to stop and think about what our intentions are to forgoing and also setting the right expectations for us, the things that feel right to us. So yeah, it's like, OK, if my goal is I'm just going to go there and my expectation, my intention is to connect with just one person, that really could take a lot of the tension off.

38:28 And I, I feel that I relate to that, Yvonne. I often times when I go to different networking events or when I sign up to go, I usually start to dread them. And it's usually because I'm creating this picture in my head of what it's going to be like. And it's usually nothing like what I'm expecting. And usually I leave these different networking events feeling really good, feeling like I actually connected with people, that maybe I learned something or I found some resources, people that are going to help me along my journey. Or I might be that resource or that person for others to help them with their journey.

39:09 So yeah, I and I, that's what I am so excited about for next weekend with Empowered Podcasting is that opportunity to really connect with like minded people, with people who are all curious that have all levels of expertise that I can personally learn from and help as well. It's going to be fun and exciting. Thank you for sharing that, Yvonne. Congratulations and I'm glad you're feeling better. OK, I'm going to do a rapid fire and and of course, if anybody from our audience wants to join, you are still welcome to come up and join. We have a few minutes left. I'm going to skip Ashley because I want to let her rest her voice. So feel better Ashley.

39:51 And let's start with Alex. Alex, please share a win. And then when you're done, just pass it to Jonathan. And Jonathan please continue it and so on and so on. Go ahead, Alex. Got hotel and we're ready to go, go to Jonathan. For EPCII, assume yes. I just have hotels everywhere. Yeah, I mean. Some kind of or or? Alex just bought a hotel. Yeah, one of the two. Go ahead, Jonathan. Whichever works, whichever works, Alex, as long as you're happy. So I will quickly say feeling healthy again, which is a big win. Finished my presentation for EPC and kind of go test that out in about two seconds across the street and my new iPhone arrives today. Oh, I'm excited about that last win in particular. Just and a little jealous.

40:38 And I will pass it over to Dr. and run far far away. OK, yesterday my win is that I finally did something that I've been putting off, and that was I got my mammogram. And this is, as I call it, my mammy Grammy. And I encourage every person, not just women, but every person to go out and get your mammy Grammy. That's my win. Thank you, Dr. Let's keep it going with Matt. I have been doing a what's called the Consultants Positioning Accelerator with Ignite Your Offer. It's a couple of people I met through a broadcasting project I run with a couple of blokes out of the UK, and bit of a revelation this week I came to a vision for what I want my broader business direction to be. I won't share it here just because it's a very personal thing, but suffice to say that podcasting isn't the only thing that I'll be focusing my efforts on over the next couple of years.

41:39 But it was pretty cool and I'll add a link into the room chat if any of you here are interested in exploring what they offer. Awesome. Yeah. And we'll put that in the show notes too. Congratulations, Matt. I'm very curious and excited for you. That's awesome. I'm, I too am looking for some new or different directions to add on to what I'm doing. So yeah, I'm very curious to hear that about that more as it develops. Thanks for sharing. Go ahead, Sid. My win is is that I've spent the entire this week hanging out with my daughter because my wife's out of town. So it's just been she and I cooking dinner, watching movies, lots of TV shows, talking about her new adventure.

42:22 And I'll be a hot mess on Wednesday because she leaves on Wednesday and I'm not sure when I'll see her again, right? Probably not till December, which is really not that long. But not like she's going to college 3 hours away. She's going to school on the other side of the world. And it's a bit emotional that she's flying the nest and so my dad's going to be dealing with all that. But what an amazing gift I was given this week with my wife being out of town to just hang out with her, you know? And so that's my win for the week is hanging out with my daughter Lucy, as I get ready to as we get ready to ship her off to the other side of the world to step into her next chapter.

43:10 So yeah, bittersweet for meeting it. I can't believe it's taken me all this time to connect the fact that both Sid and Alex have daughters named Lucy and Sid. Congratulations there yes bittersweet and it reminds me to to tell you to check out a podcast that I produce or actually I don't produce it. I consult called the loud quiet. It's a podcast for empty nesters and the two hosts are coming to empowered podcasting next weekend. So if you're looking for something to listen to and then have something to talk about with a couple of other attendees, there you go. And it could be very appropriate because the loud quiet is all about empty nesting. So enjoy if you choose to listen, OK.

43:53 And As for me, we had a couple more ticket sales just yesterday after about a week drought. And so I was starting to sweat it again. And then boom, more people came through. And I'm going to share what's really cool is that one of those came from my personal efforts prospecting people on LinkedIn. What does that mean? I took Rich Perry's playbook. Rich has joined us before talking about LinkedIn strategies and he will be at Empowered Podcasting as well. I took his strategy and used LinkedIn to filter through or filter out everybody except podcasters in Charlotte and in the Charlotte surrounding areas and people that I'm not currently connected to.

44:40 So I literally went through dozens and dozens and dozens of these particular podcasters, asked to connect with them, sent them personal notes saying, you know, hey, I'm a North Carolina podcaster too. And curious if you're coming to Empowered Podcasting. It's opened up conversations. We've had a handful of ticket sales from that already. Rich and I both been doing this prospecting. And just yesterday I had somebody who originally said, no, I'm not going to be able to make it. But I kept the conversation going, not pushing the event, but just kept the conversation going to get to know the person. And then after a couple of back and forth, the person got back to me yesterday and said, you know what?

45:21 My, my schedule has changed. I'm free that weekend. I'm buying a ticket right now. And then next thing I knew, a ticket sale came through and it was hers. So it goes to show you that the grass roots marketing does pay off and it's just a matter of finding the balance, doing a little of everything. In my opinion, 'cause we're doing the paid ad thing too. We're doing the grassroots efforts. And all of this little by little has been adding up to what's going to be now a full house next weekend in Charlotte for Empowered Podcasting. Go check it out empoweredpodcasting.com. That's my win. Thank you all for sharing yours. Thanks for a great conversation today.

46:02 Looking forward to getting back to it with you next week. Tuesday, 7:00 AM Eastern and we'll do it all week long for the rest of the week, including from Charlotte at the event. That will be exciting to do. Thank you all, Appreciate it. Looking forward to next week. Until then, make it a great weekend everybody. Take care.