456. NPR Broadcaster Takes On Google’s Voice Cloning

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Good morning, podcasting,
Morning Chat.

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Today is Wednesday, February
18th, 2026.

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And today it's podcast news and
comment.

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And we're breaking down Apple
Podcasts going all in on video.

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And NPR host is suing Google and
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Thanks for being here.
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every one of us.
You know, I was thinking, I, I

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shared yesterday that we had our
podcast's 4th anniversary over

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the weekend and I was reflecting
this morning a little bit on how

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much this show has evolved.
I'm curious, for those of you

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who have been with me here since
the get go, or at least early on

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over the span of these four
years, do you remember I used to

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when I did my welcome, instead
of just calling each of you out

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saying who's here on stage, I
actually went to each and every

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one of you after I introduced
myself and said hello and gave

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you a moment to say hello as
well.

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It worked OK when we were doing
it as a live only show, and I

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think that's when we got rid of
it was when we went to also a

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podcast format 'cause I just
recognized that a bunch of

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introductions from 5 to 8 people
takes up a ton of time.

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And we're not really providing a
ton of value all the time in

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that.
They're just kind of

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pleasantries that we used to do.
We got rid of that and I've been

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trying to rack my brain 'cause I
know we've evolved a lot since

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then.
And yes, of course, I can go

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back to the archives and listen,
see episodes to find those

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differences, how we've evolved,
but I just haven't done that

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yet.
So if anybody thinks of anything

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that we used to do that we don't
do now, I'm all ears.

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Would love to hear about that.
No pressure for right now, but

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if you're thinking about it,
maybe bring it up at some point

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over the next week or so.
OK, so it is Newsday, so we're

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going to hop right into all the
news and headlines around the

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world of podcasting, starting
with some data for you.

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Over this past week, 604,281
podcasts published at least one

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new episode, which happens to be
down from last week, down by

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3.2%.
And over the past 30 days,

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almost 2.5 million podcasts
published at least one new

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episode, and that's up almost
17%.

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Did somebody want to chime in?
I heard somebody come off mic.

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No, it's just me.
I'm getting ready.

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Oh, OK, sorry, no problem.
Well, yeah.

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So without further ado, let's
bring in Dr. for the top fives

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from both Apple and Spotify.
Mm hmm.

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Spotify's top five. #5 is crime
junkie #4 is good hang with Amy

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Poehler #3 start the Tiffany is
Shawn Ryan show #2 is this past

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week in ritheo Bonham the.
Fifth one is Joe Rogan

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Experience.
Yes, it is, as usual as usual.

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And what's our top five, which I
think also has another usual

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suspect at #1 Go for it, Dr.
Yeah, this kind of feels like a

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repeat of last week's when I
said last week's Apple top five.

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But #5 is good.
Hang #4 is Dateline, NBC #3 is,

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you know, you know, you love
them.

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Joe Rogan #2 is Crime Junkie and
the number one.

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My timing was off a little bit
on that The Daily.

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There it is, the daily and your
timing was only off because my

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timing was off.
I, I hit the timpani a little

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later than I normally would.
One, one day I'll get it right,

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or at least maybe one month I'll
get it right every single wait

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week.
We will see.

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And also we've got some events
for ya. 1st next week, Tuesday,

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February 24th, Business and
Podcasting Network event for

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female entrepreneurs.
This is hosted by the Female

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Entrepreneurs Business and
Podcasting Society.

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It's a virtual event and you can
get that link in our show notes.

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You can also get it at
podnews.com/events.

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Also, I wouldn't be right if I
didn't mention the Empowered

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Podcasting Conference coming in
August, the weekend of August

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21st through the 23rd in
Charlotte, NC.

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I say it wouldn't be right
because this conference was born

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out of the Podcasting Morning
chat and hosted by yours truly

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along with a couple of other
familiar faces.

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So yeah, go to
empoweredpodcasting.com.

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Get your tickets today.
It's certainly one of the more

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affordable tickets as far as
podcasting conference goes,

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conferences goes.
So come check it out, see what

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we're all about and get yourself
a ticket and come join us in

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Charlotte and Dr. Do you want to
take the next one?

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The next event since it's yours?
So it's the meet up and match up

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with podcasters, speakers and
authors.

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It's hosted by the Podcasters
Directory and.

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Oh, I have.
I think I copy.

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Pasted this from last week and
so that's why the date is all

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screwy, but it happens.
Tomorrow, the 19th.

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Yes, it happens every single
Thursday, 3:00 PM to 4:30 PM Oh,

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Central time.
That would be my time.

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And the discount code is PMC,
the initials of our show PMC.

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You'll get in for free.
And again, this is the place to

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go if you want to meet other
podcasters, if you want to meet

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authors, if you want to meet
speakers.

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You need people for your show or
you need to get on a show.

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This is the place to go to.
Thank you, Dr. Without further

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ado, quick tip, smart move.
Yeah, Content Creators business.

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Today's content creators
business bite is brought to you

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by the guy who's about to host
it, Ralph E step of Content

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creatorsaccountant.com.
Ralph is a licensed accountant

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and also now my accountant, and
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he helps creators stop guessing
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Working with Ralph, Ralph has

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to check out his website
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And without further ado, Ralph,
take it away.

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Well, good morning, Mark.
Thank you for that nice

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introduction.
And this morning I want to talk

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to content creators and side
hustlers because this year's tax

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season has a money trap that
could hit your bottom line.

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You might see a lot of things in
the news about digital payment

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platforms like PayPal and Venmo
and Stripe.

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And the thing that we are seeing
is they have to send you what's

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called a 1099 K form if you made
over $20,000 on their platform

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and had at least 200
transactions.

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That's the news this tax season.
I'm seeing it all over the

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place.
But here's the dangerous part.

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Just because you didn't get one
of those 109899-K forms doesn't

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mean Uncle Sam thinks you didn't
earn the money.

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Here's the money reality.
All income is taxable.

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I was on a call yesterday with a
content creator.

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He says, well, they didn't send
me a document, Ralph, do I need

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to report it?
Yes, whether a form shows up or

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not.
If you took payments for goods,

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services, digital products, if
you're a coach through apps and

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didn't report it, you go to tax
plus penalties and interest when

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you file.
Now, what does this mean for

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your finances?
What it means is you still got

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to log and report all your
income, not just what gets

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reported on a form.
Less paperwork doesn't mean less

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tax out.
And if you're guessing or

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ignoring it, you're gambling
with the bill instead of

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planning for a check.
So here's my big take away for

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today.
Some money moves you can make

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right away.
Track all your payments weekly,

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don't wait for tax time.
Separate your business and

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personal accounts and put aside
a percentage for taxes.

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No 1099 form K NO1099K form
doesn't mean no tax.

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It means you've got your own
numbers or your tax bill might

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be your own wallet and you don't
want to end up in jail with tax

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evasion.
So that is my tip for today.

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It's a little bit of blended
news and a tip all together, so

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thank you.
Mark Yeah, thank you, Ralph.

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So my question to you, I know
you said it's 20K on a single

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platform.
What if it we're 20K across

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multiple platforms?
Does it change?

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So that that's the little
nuanced thing right now.

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So the IRS rules are by
platform.

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They're basically dictating the
terms and the rules to the

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platform.
So the platform looks at you and

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it looks how many transactions
you had, either 200 transactions

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or $20,000.
And each platform is a separate

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thing.
But what messes a lot of content

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creators up is they don't get
that form and they forget about

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it.
I don't think there's any

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willfulness to this.
I don't think it's anything

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intentional.
It's just you forgot.

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Oh, yeah, I did have that
Patreon account.

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Yeah.
I earned a whole $200 on it.

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Well, technically that's taxable
income to you, so just be aware

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of that.
I'm a big believer in having

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what I call an income map.
Whenever you have a new income

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source, put it on a map and make
sure you're checking those

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things.
I like to check them weekly, but

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you definitely want to check
them at tax time because this is

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one of those oops moments.
And here's what happens.

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You file your tax return, you
think everything is fine.

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And then next summer, literally
next summer, you're going to get

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a letter from the IRS that says,
excuse me, Mr. Mark, we found

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something you didn't report.
And then you're going to panic.

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So this is my way of keeping you
out of panic mode and making

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sure you're keeping track of
everything because like I said,

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just 'cause you didn't get a
form doesn't mean it's not

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income to you.
Yeah.

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Thank you, Ralph.
OK, so I will take the next

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story.
This is short and sweet.

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I saw this actually on POD news
this morning.

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Rd. has announced Direct Connect
support for its Wireless Pro and

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Wireless Go systems.
This is allowing creators to

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plug their transmitters straight
into a computer or a smartphone

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via USB, no receiver required.
That means fewer cables, faster

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setups, and a cleaner mobile
recording workflow for

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podcasters, streamers, and on
the Go creators.

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It is a small technical update,
but I think it's got big

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practical implications for
anyone who values portability

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and speed in their production
setup.

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So yeah, they're making it a
little easier for you.

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Also, according to pod News, I
saw this earlier this week,

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maybe as recently as yesterday,
they shared that filling up your

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gas tank might now fill up your
podcast queue as well.

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Purple Daily, which is the
Minnesota Vikings show from the

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Gamut Podcast Network, is now
playing at QuikTrip gas pumps.

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According across the region.
While you're standing there

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feeling up, you'll get a 32nd
preview right on the pump

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screen.
And if you'd like, I've got a,

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I've got a clip to play for you.
Now, this was recorded literally

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at a gas pump.
So you've got some traffic

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noise, you've got some
background noise.

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I will say that it'll clear up.
At first it's really noisy.

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I did run it through a phonic
and I gave it a light Polish

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because too polished it made it
sound really weird.

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So this is from a an actual
quick trip gas pump and it comes

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from that podcast I mentioned a
moment ago, Purple Daily.

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It's another Purple Daily quick
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Minnesota's own Tom Pellicero
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options for the Vikings this
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Mac Jones, Geno Smith, Kyler
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Be prepared for their turn to
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It makes so much sense coming
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He's going to be let go and he
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He knows O'Connell.
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The Vikings need a quarterback.
My good man.

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Stability.
Cousins provides that short term

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North ACT.
Not, not bad.

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I mean, I think that's a cool
thing to do, right?

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You can't put a whole podcast on
there because nobody would

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really catch a lot of it.
But you do like a 32nd preview

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or a clip from the podcast.
I could see that being of value

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to a podcaster.
Would you do that?

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Would anybody here do that?
Would you put an ad for your

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podcast at a gas pump?
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Ralph is nodding his head yes.
I don't know that mine would

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work at a gas pump, but yeah,
who knows.

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Why do you say that?
Why do you say that, Jonathan?

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I think sports and that sort of
thing is more gas pump oriented

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than a lesson about
storytelling, but I could be

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wrong.
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I mean, look, if it's some, if
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know, you get 30 seconds
according to this, you have some

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kind of 32nd teaser.
I think it could work for a

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really just about any show, but
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not speaking directly to a
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In other words, you're captured
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audience necessarily.
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Ralph, what do you want to add?
Oh man, I'm loving this idea

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'cause I'm just picturing.
Are you running out of gas on

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your finances?
Like, I can see my shows tying

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right into this gas costing you
an arm and a leg these days,

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Mark.
I got to figure out how to do

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that.
Dude, that's beautiful.

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Yeah, I love it.
Look into Quick Trip and see if

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they've got anything that
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All I know is that this is
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with this specific podcast.
We'll see who who else joins

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this lineup.
Nikki, you had something.

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Go ahead.
I was going to say that this

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might sound silly, but my
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with parents and making people
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lonely, I feel isolated,
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an island by myself.
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up with a play on that about
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other people, feeling like
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or your story, things like that,
I could see that going pretty

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well for my podcast.
Great call, Nikki.

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Yeah, very cool.
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I don't know that I would do it
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I think it we're too specific.
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but I don't think it's going to
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necessarily.
I'd have to start a different

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kind of podcast if I really
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that.
All right, let's keep it moving.

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I see Dr. is now joined us on
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So, Dr., why don't you go ahead
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about while you were cooking
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OK, so Captivate just made a
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appointing Rob Wolk Walsh, Rob
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and bringing on Elsie Escobar as
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Community Manager.
I believe that these are made-up

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names just to get them over
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Yeah, and and it's V it's VP of
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Elsie is creator success and
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sounds, at least the title
sounds similar to the role she

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used to have.
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sound familiar, it's because
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they had a show together called
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Was it podcast?
The feed.

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The feed, yeah.
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appointment listening for me.
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time.
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excuse me, I'm kind of veering
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was just started in podcasting,
I would listen to the feed and

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it would give me street cred
because I was just regurgitating

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everything that I heard on that
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It made me sound like I knew
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kind of didn't.
But both spent 18 years at

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Lipson and are both are podcast
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The higher signal captivates
intent to accelerate US growth

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and deepen its advertising and
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This is not a quiet staffing
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This is a strategic shift aimed
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publishers and advertisers.
So the highlighted points are

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Rob will focus on expanding US
creator and publisher

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partnerships, LC will drive
community growth and creator

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success initiatives, both will.
This is what I'm excited about.

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So everyone just a little moment
of silence, OK?

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Both will take over the in and
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So basically it's the feed ish.
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excited it's coming back.
There's no date yet as to when

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that's going to happen.
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Global's broader push with the
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its new global studio production
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I think I'm so excited about
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So when industry veterans move
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platform to platform or stay, do
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you follow that creator?
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And I think this question, yeah,
it makes sense because I think

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really what's behind it is the
fact that these two were at

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Libsyn.
By the way, this feels like a

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giant FU to Libsyn, Yes.
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And so if you were maybe on
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Elsie or Rob or both, there were
people that's maybe been a big

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part of your journey because
let's face it, I know that

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they've done a lot for content
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So, yeah, if you've been a long
time Libsyn user, do you jump

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ship when a couple of maybe your
favorite people leave the

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platform?
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When it comes to Libsyn, you
know, more than a couple people

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have gone and the couple people
that have gone are like big

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deals.
They're big deals in the

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podcasting industry.
So I have feelings that Lipson

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either might be saying bye bye
or someone's going to come up

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and gobble them up or something.
It feels like there is a major

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shift happening at Lipson and
I'm I even talked to my client

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about getting off of Lipson.
Interesting, Ralph, what do you

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got?
Yeah, I want to say I left that

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sinking ship a year or so ago.
And that's not, I'm not trying

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to pick on Libsyn, but they just
don't have a dynamic, a plan for

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how to get ahead and captivate
really does.

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I mean, it's been a huge
momentum shift for maestros.

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And so I, I think, I think
captive, I think Mark Axwith is

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doing a super great, great deal
bringing these two on board.

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I think it's really going to be
a dynamic thing.

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And it's funny because I listen
to his in and around pocketing

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it kind of died months ago.
So it's kind of cool that

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they're going to bring that back
because I really found it to be

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a very valuable thing.
I know him and Danny Brown,

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who's sort of the the support
guy over there who is fantastic

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and has an awesome accent, but
they're just a great company.

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They're dynamic.
They're always trying new stuff.

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So I think it's a great move on
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Agreed.
Yes, I do too.

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I think anybody would benefit
having those two as a part of

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their company for sure.
And I think this is a this is

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great for podcasting.
It's certainly great for Rob and

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Elsie.
I have to reach out to her.

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We were talking about getting
together for a cup of coffee

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since she is in my neck of the
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So now that I think she's a
little more settled, has some

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stability, maybe she's ready to
go do that.

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She had reached out to me a
couple weeks ago.

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I, I forget when exactly, but I
think there was a holiday or

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something in the way and she was
saying maybe after the holiday

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we'll, we'll get together.
So I have to follow up with her.

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She's a great, great person and
like I said earlier, great for

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this industry.
We wish them all the best, all

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the success with Captivate all
right so with that I will keep

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things moving with the next
story.

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Let me pull this up here
actually Dr. You know what?

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I'm going to give this next
story to you while I get my act

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together here.
Go for.

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It OK The 69th Annual New York
Emmy Awards open for entries and

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this includes video podcasts, so
here's the short blurb here.

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The 69th Annual New York Emmy
Awards are now accepting entries

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through March 2nd, 2026, and
this year includes expanded

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categories that reflect evolving
media trends, notably allowing

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video podcast to compete in the
talk program category.

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Creators of television, digital
media, sports coverage, short

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form content, and regional
storytelling are encouraged to

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submit work made in 2025 for
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In October, the calls for entry
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deadline of March 2nd at 6:00
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Now just to give you an idea of
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the submission fees.
So you pay a submit, you pay to

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submit work to the Television
Academy and depending on if you

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are a member or a non member,
the submission fee can range

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anywhere from $100 to $400.00
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Multiple categories mean
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One project can easily hit 4
figures just to be seen

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basically.
And where does that money go to?

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Well, for all of the for Your
Consideration ads that you see

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all the time, the targeted
emails to voters, screening

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events and panels, publicists
who know who to nudge and when

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to nudge them, and also the swag
that pretends, you know, not to

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be real swag.
But that's where all that money

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goes to.
It's cool that they share where

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all the money goes to, right?
You know, because we've talked a

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lot about the fact that it feels
like all these award award

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organizations charge a lot of
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And it's nice to hear a
breakdown of where some of that

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money is going to.
Still a lot of money for sure.

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And to be clear, again, this is
regional Emmy.

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So this isn't on the the
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This is specific, I guess, to
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OK.
And let's see.

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I know I saw it looked like
somebody wanted to come up on

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stage, but I guess they changed
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Let's go to BC with some podcast
entertainment news.

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Go for it BC.
Yes, good morning.

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So first big story this morning
is SAG AFTRA.

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The actors union assigned an
agreement with the Netflix

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officially categorizing the Pete
Davidson show as a podcast,

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which people might think, well,
duh, that's been the whole, you

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know, plan.
That's how it was pitched,

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right?
But there's actually been some

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confusion from SAG Aftra's
perspective on how to actually

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categorize the show because the
show is largely produced as a

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talk show.
But again, the proposal has

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always been to treat the show
like a podcast.

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So they've officially come to an
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They have officially categorized
the show as a podcast.

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The big things to take away here
is that the categorization now

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is causing the kind of
definition of podcasts and talk

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shows to blur even more because
of this categorization.

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So the reason this is a a pretty
big deal for the agreement by

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itself is that podcast
agreements through SAG, AFTRA

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are pretty more sorry are
typically a bit more or less

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rigorous sorry than your typical
TV deal.

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For instance, compared to
television contracts, podcast

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deals rarely require residual
payments to viewership or

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reruns.
Safety work hours and travel

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rules are a lot less strict than
TV contracts as well.

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But there are also some benefit
contributions that can also be a

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compromise by this.
And additionally, the real

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defining bit here of why this
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agreement matters is that video
podcasts stop being seen as

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00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,120
traditional podcasts and start
resembling talk shows more

449
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,280
often.
And this is because this will

450
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,120
set the stage essentially for us
to in the future see video

451
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:26,640
podcasts with TV level budgets.
So platforms and like Netflix,

452
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,520
which may increasingly label
high production talk formats as

453
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,200
podcasts can take advantage of
lighter union requirements and

454
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,040
more flexible contract terms.
Additionally, in podcasting, the

455
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,200
fact that SAG AFTRA even weighed
in and negotiated an agreement

456
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,200
shows that labor unions are
treating podcast productions

457
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,040
very seriously.
And that's especially as

458
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,680
celebrities come into the world
of podcasting and all and or if

459
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,280
that celebrity is tied to large
corporations.

460
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,520
So we'll see unions push clear
protections around compensation

461
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,040
structures, work conditions,
benefits and residuals.

462
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,920
And at this point, again, that
line between what defines a

463
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,080
video podcast versus a talk show
will blur even more.

464
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,880
So we all know traditionally
podcasts where audio productions

465
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,200
that were distributed by an RSS
feed, we moved into video

466
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,960
podcasting.
But the Pete Davidson Show,

467
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,920
which is exclusively through
Netflix by their video

468
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,760
exclusivity rights plus their
partners Spotify and iHeartMedia

469
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,520
challenges that in original
foundation completely.

470
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,600
So from here, we might see
streaming platforms launch more

471
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,680
exclusive podcast style, content
creators opting for video and

472
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,320
live stream approaches over
audio only and industry

473
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,760
standards evolving on what is
considered a podcast versus a

474
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,760
show.
I would kind of like to know

475
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,160
what the crew here has regarding
those that kind of pitch there.

476
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,520
Well, it looks like Dr. has
something.

477
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,680
Go ahead, Dr. Podcasting has
basically been the Wild West.

478
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,960
No unions, no gatekeepers, just
a mic and you.

479
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,840
And now TV networks and
streamers are scooping up

480
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,800
podcasts like they just
discovered oxygen.

481
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:18,680
Basically the second a podcast
becomes a televised content and

482
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,160
listeners you can't see me but
I'm doing little quote signs

483
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,920
with my fingers.
Some some can see you if they're

484
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,880
watching the video.
OK, that's right.

485
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,480
That's right.
You are no longer a podcaster.

486
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,640
Once you cross that line, you
are talent on a filmed

487
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:42,280
production, and that's where SAG
and AFTRA and the FCC enters the

488
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,400
chat.
Up until now, podcasting has

489
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,360
been the kind of the last, well,
let's just say audio first

490
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,880
podcasting, or as I like to call
it, podcasting AF.

491
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,760
I stole that from David Hooper.
I can't, I can't.

492
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,480
I can't take credit for.
Kudos to Dave Hooper.

493
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,240
That's funny.
Podcasting audio first, it has

494
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,320
been the last bastion of free
speech.

495
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,920
But now FCC is entering the
ring, the little boxing ring,

496
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,880
and that goes out the window.
And here's what changes when the

497
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,200
line gets crossed #1 If you are
performing on camera for a union

498
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,920
signatory production union,
union rules apply #2 You'll have

499
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,520
monthly dues, minimum rates,
residuals and working conditions

500
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:40,880
become contractual #3 Reuse of
clips, trailers, international

501
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,080
distribution can trigger
additional payments.

502
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,560
And #4 producers may have to
file paperwork and operate under

503
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,160
union agreements.
For creators.

504
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,720
That cuts both ways.
You know, there are for FCC,

505
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,000
there's standards and practices
that you will need to be

506
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,400
cognizant of.
Here's my question.

507
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,520
So, in light of the Pete
Davidson story, would union

508
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,280
involvement legitimize
podcasting as premium

509
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,840
entertainment or kind of choke
the indie model that built the

510
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,400
industry?
Interesting BC what say you?

511
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,280
I know you also want to chime
in, and so does Ralph and Alex.

512
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,640
And so the DRS question, I don't
know how to answer that quite

513
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,760
yet.
I kind of feel like I might be a

514
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,800
reformer in the sense of making
it premium content.

515
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,880
But I was going to say for the
audience to provide some to

516
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,840
provide some examples on FCC and
how they get involved.

517
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,360
I think it's, there's a clip
been going around for a little

518
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,880
while from SNLA particular skit
where the audience was prompted

519
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,680
to respond to the skit and the
audience dropped the S bomb.

520
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,640
S bomb, not really a common
phrase, but SHIT, they dropped

521
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,480
that on air on SNL and you see
the the lead of the skid say,

522
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,120
oh, we're about to get fined for
that.

523
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,080
So things like that, controlling
certain verbiages and FCC

524
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,840
regulation, they can really get
on even large scale networks for

525
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,400
allowing certain verbiage to
slip during broadcasting.

526
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,280
Whereas to DRS Point and
podcasting, those regulations

527
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,200
don't exist.
We can talk however we want to,

528
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,840
you know, based on our format
and the audience of our

529
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,720
choosing.
But with this new deal with SAG

530
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,400
after getting involved and the
FCC stepping into our

531
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,880
boundaries, that may no longer
be a thing in the long term.

532
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,640
But yeah, DRS question is, it's
got me perplexed.

533
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,000
I don't know how to approach
that one.

534
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,920
Yeah.
Would you willingly join a union

535
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,200
for the protections and the
residuals, or would the dues and

536
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,680
restrictions feel like, you
know, handcuffs?

537
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,360
Basically BC is shaking his head
no.

538
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,520
Ralph just gave the thumbs down.
Ralph, what say you?

539
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,360
Mark this date February 18th,
2026.

540
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,840
If unions infiltrate the
podcasting world, podcasting

541
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,160
world will die.
I truly believe that because

542
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,960
this is not good for our
industry.

543
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,320
This is not good for independent
creators.

544
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,040
It's great for the big creating
shops, it's big for the major

545
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,000
players, but it is not going to
work for the small players

546
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,840
because you're not going to be
able to handle the costs

547
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,480
associated with production on a
union scale.

548
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,080
I deal with this all the time
with not, not, not so much

549
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,240
content creators, but just union
scale with some of my, you know,

550
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,320
contractor clients and things
like that.

551
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,720
It completely eliminates the
small person.

552
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,560
It completely eliminates the
competition level.

553
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,640
So as much as I understand and
it brings prestige, it brings

554
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,600
professionalism.
Be careful what you ask for

555
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,960
because I truly believe, and
here's another thing to think

556
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,960
about with the FCC, it's also
going to going to make you do

557
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,080
equal time with stuff.
So don't forget about that

558
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,880
because you may be a
conservative, you may be not a

559
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,360
conservative.
All of a sudden now you're going

560
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,720
to be bound by equal time and
somebody, some government

561
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,200
bureaucratic knucklehead is
going to have a stopwatch and

562
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,560
saying, well, you talked about
this topic for so long.

563
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,040
Now you got to talk about the
other side.

564
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,719
I can just imagine, like with my
Christian podcast, do I have to

565
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,360
have a Satanist on there once a
week?

566
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,560
Because now, and I'm not trying
to be hyperbolic, but think

567
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,280
about that, you know, is
somebody going to complain

568
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,880
about, hey, you are not sharing
a fair aspect of the people who

569
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,440
are not faith-based.
So again, mark the date February

570
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,719
18th, 2026.
This is not good news.

571
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,080
It kind of feels that if they
step into the ring, and they

572
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,320
will for the television, that
audio can't be far behind.

573
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,679
There's going to be someone to
say, well, podcasting is

574
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,480
podcasting, we got it.
We got to get our thumb into

575
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,440
that audio first.
Podcasting, and that is scary.

576
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Agreed.
And I'm going to go to Alex and

577
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,840
then stay tuned because after
Alex, I'm going to switch gears

578
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,640
and I've got a story I want to
share with everybody and get

579
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,720
their take.
It's about somebody at NPR who's

580
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:06,520
suing Google and specifically
over notebook LM.

581
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,560
I'll share that.
It's it, it really surprised me

582
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,360
and I think it may surprise you
as well.

583
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,200
But first let's go to Alex.
Alex, your thoughts on FCC,

584
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,640
unions, etcetera considering
joining the podcasting world.

585
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,040
It's a total money grab and
Ralph said it really well.

586
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:30,840
SAG has done such an awful job
of supporting the actors.

587
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,960
Now they want to do this.
It's embarrassing, but it's not

588
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,400
surprising because they want to
get into the podcast game.

589
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,080
Everybody was all talking about,
you know, with the Golden Globes

590
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,120
or whatever.
This is just a national

591
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:49,440
progression, and it's just sad
because it's a total muddy grab.

592
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,960
I know too many stag members
that are behind and in front of

593
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,280
the camera that don't get the
representation that they need.

594
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,640
But they got to be a SAG member
or they have to be part of the

595
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,200
union.
If it's going to happen, it's

596
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,200
when it's going to happen.
It's going to actually how it's

597
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,200
going to play out.
What do you expect?

598
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,560
If you want to play with the big
boys, you got to be a SAG

599
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,760
member.
If you want this stuff on TV,

600
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,640
you got to be a SAG member.
I don't know how to get around

601
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,360
it.
And to what Ralph was saying,

602
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,360
there's going to be more eyes.
There's still going to be tears

603
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,960
to it, because there just always
is.

604
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,920
But I'll let you get the next
story.

605
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,840
Yeah, no, thank you, Alex.
I appreciate that.

606
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,640
And my thought is, and I don't
know, I, I don't know enough

607
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,120
about these things to say
whether this holds any weight or

608
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,920
not.
But my guess is, is that they'll

609
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,000
get into this game as they've
already started to with Pete

610
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,360
Davidson.
But I have a feeling it's only

611
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,720
going to be when it's focused on
the big platforms, when it's

612
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,720
when it's, you know, part of a
Netflix, when it's part of a

613
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:54,640
national network.
I think if those, if podcasts

614
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,480
are trying to break into those
areas, I think that's where SAG,

615
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,800
the FCC, etcetera are going to
get involved.

616
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,160
But my guess is they're not
going to really.

617
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,160
It's not going to apply to
indie.

618
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,040
Podcasts.
No.

619
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,400
But the problem, this is where.
This is where Ralph's point is

620
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,480
so important.
The rules are the rules.

621
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,760
If somebody wants to go after
somebody, they can use the rules

622
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,360
for them or against them.
And that's the problem.

623
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:25,480
When you when you suck something
stag, you are abiding by their

624
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,640
rules.
And podcasters like Dr. has just

625
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,680
said, it's been the wild, Wild
West.

626
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,400
I'm not saying it's good that
it's the wild, Wild West, but

627
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,240
it, it is and it, it's kind of,
it's going to be interesting

628
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,760
where the where the line is
going to be.

629
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,440
Where, where, where is going to
be that one independent

630
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,320
podcaster that's going to do
something that's going to cause

631
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,480
the humanities controversy
because they're a SAG member.

632
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,160
This is not going to be answered
today.

633
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,600
It's going to be answered 10
years or five years from now.

634
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,120
But there's going to be an
incident and we're going to be

635
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,880
talking about it on this morning
chat where it's going to be a

636
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,440
huge issue and we're going to go
back to is it right to be a SAG

637
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,760
member, why isn't SAG supporting
the podcaster and whatever else.

638
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,560
Thank you.
Alex and thank you BC for that

639
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,360
story.
Who knew it was going to cause

640
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,800
so much discussion there.
I never, I can never get these

641
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,760
right as far as guessing goes.
All right, so here's what I'm

642
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,360
going to do.
I'm going to share this story

643
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,360
with you that I just teased.
And then we're going to talk a

644
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,760
little bit about what I think a
lot of people are talking about.

645
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,160
Apple Podcasts moving into
video.

646
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,040
OK.
But first, veteran public radio

647
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:47,280
host David Greene is suing
Google, claiming Listen Up Sid,

648
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,040
claiming the male voice used in
the company's AI tool Notebook

649
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:57,720
LM sounds strikingly similar to
his own and that Google used it

650
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:01,680
without his permission,
potentially harming his his

651
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,440
reputation and rights as a
broadcaster.

652
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,600
Google denies the claim, saying
the voice was performed by a

653
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,840
hired actor.
The case raises significant

654
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,120
questions about AI voice
likeness and legal protections

655
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,760
for unique human voices.
What I've done is I found

656
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:26,000
something that's I think this is
from a YouTube channel, MO News

657
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,600
if I'm not mistaken.
And this is a side by side.

658
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,600
OK, So I believe if I'm
remembering the clip correctly,

659
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,840
the first clip is the actual
voice is the real guy David

660
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,960
Greene, and the second is Google
notebook LM and they're saying

661
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,000
the same things.
So you decide.

662
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,800
And then I have one other clip
of the of the radio host by

663
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,080
itself, just to give you a
little more context.

664
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,120
But first, here's the side by
side.

665
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,000
You're going to hear one right
after the other.

666
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,680
And looking broadly at this, is
this an arc that has been

667
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,400
developing in Washington or
something?

668
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,960
Is there something about the
Trump era that that has made

669
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,320
this a distinctly different feel
when it comes to Capitol Hill?

670
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,480
So looking bigger picture, is
this just, you know, the latest

671
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,680
step in a long polarization
trend?

672
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,880
Or is there something really
different about the Trump era,

673
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,720
something that makes Capitol
Hill feel distinct right now?

674
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,360
I know we don't normally do
anything political, or at least

675
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,560
we avoid that.
But those were the examples.

676
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,640
And I'll play one more for you.
This is David Greene himself.

677
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,080
A window into some of the
dynamics that I think might be

678
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,240
taking shape this year.
We already have some questions

679
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,720
to ask about both parties
because things are already

680
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:38,960
seeming messy for both Democrats
and Republicans.

681
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,880
So I don't know about you, but
to me they sound, they do sound

682
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,840
strikingly similar.
I really hear it sounds pretty

683
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,440
much like the same voice.
Now I called out Sid because Sid

684
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:59,240
did a season 7, I believe recap
6, season 6 recap of his show,

685
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:04,640
the Insight Report and he used
Google notebook LM to provide

686
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,920
that recap.
So Sid, you probably have heard

687
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,840
that voice a lot as of late.
So what are your thoughts?

688
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,120
Do you think that it sounds like
David Greene?

689
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,520
First off, yeah, I did a season
6 recap of my show, The Trend.

690
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,240
Report, sorry, inside reporting
to somebody else I know and I

691
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:23,040
knew as I said it, I said it
wrong.

692
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,720
It's all good, man.
But wow, those were really,

693
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:27,640
really close.
It's really hard to tell the

694
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,120
difference between the two when
you first started talking about

695
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,240
this.
I'm like, Oh yeah, whatever.

696
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:33,560
This is somebody trying to get a
money grab from Google.

697
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,640
But now that I hear the
comparison like I'd if I were on

698
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,600
the jury, I'd vote for him.
Yeah, I think it's pretty bold

699
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,160
of Google to claim that this was
performed by a hired actor.

700
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,480
Let's just hear it one more
time.

701
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:50,280
And looking broadly at this, is
this an arc that has been

702
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,000
developing in Washington or
something?

703
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,560
Is there something about the
Trump era that that has made

704
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,920
this a distinctly different feel
when it comes to Capitol Hill?

705
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,040
So looking bigger picture, is
this just, you know, the latest

706
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,280
step in a long polarization
trend?

707
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,480
Or is there something really
different about the Trump era,

708
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,360
something that makes Capitol
Hill feel distinct right now?

709
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,200
Hey, Mark.
Yes, Alex.

710
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,720
Part is it sounds like the
second one, the AI one.

711
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,960
It just seems like the the the
first gentleman, I mean the

712
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,360
actual person, he needs to talk
closer to the mic.

713
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,880
I mean, I think they're not they
sound exactly the same.

714
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,280
I mean, but oh God, that's
scary.

715
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,280
Yeah, the AI has better mic
technique, I agree.

716
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,280
But yeah, it's also probably
just the different levels of the

717
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,960
recordings and such.
But yeah, it's it's pretty,

718
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,640
pretty scary.
And yes, it was.

719
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,920
By the way, the Side By Side was
a YouTube short provided by At

720
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:51,800
MO News MONEWS.
What will be interesting here is

721
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,080
if this goes all the way and he
has, he wins.

722
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,800
Is there any recourse on those
of us that have used the podcast

723
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,800
feature on Google LM?
Like does it come?

724
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Does it trickle back down to us?
Or is this just strictly a

725
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,840
Google thing?
Yeah, this is that.

726
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,520
That's what I was wondering too.
I mean, it could be very

727
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:19,240
possible that if David Greene
wins this suit that we're all

728
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:20,840
told we got to take our stuff
down.

729
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,800
I don't know how they can
enforce that.

730
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,520
I think there's so much stuff
out there right now from Google

731
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,160
Notebook LM so who knows.
Mark, are these type of unions

732
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,720
going to fight for this stuff?
That's the question.

733
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,000
They are fighting for it.
That's why I popped up here.

734
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,480
As you know, there is a place
for the unions, but it I don't

735
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,400
believe that.
I think as podcasters, as

736
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,040
independent podcasters, we
really need to keep an eye on

737
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,600
this story around the FCC
because I love that podcasting

738
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,560
is the Wild West.
That is where our power comes

739
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,520
from as independent podcast
producers.

740
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,400
And speaking as somebody who has
been in the entertainment field

741
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:14,480
before, unions have their place
in protecting actors from huge,

742
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,440
you know, producers who are
going to take advantage of them,

743
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,000
who are going to use their voice
over and over and over again or

744
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,400
their likeness.
In the old days, there used to

745
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:32,160
be terrible working conditions
for actors and actors and

746
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,240
performers would die destitute
because they didn't have any

747
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:39,520
protection from unions.
So there is a place for that,

748
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,280
but not an independent
podcasting.

749
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:49,360
And this is a perfect example of
of somebody's like this being

750
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,200
taken.
In my opinion, I can't hear the

751
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,600
difference between the two other
than a little bit of a sound

752
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,040
tweak on you know, but wow.
Great points, Yvonne.

753
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,120
Thank you for that.
Let's see here.

754
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,720
All right, we're going to keep
it moving.

755
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,200
Let's get to what probably at
least appears to be the last

756
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,920
story.
We have others, so if there's

757
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,440
time will share.
But I do want to make sure this

758
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,440
is a news show after all.
And I think it's important to

759
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,600
dive into the latest with Apple
podcast because they've gone all

760
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,960
in on video.
And before anyone says it, few

761
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,960
long time podcasters.
Yes, I know Apple has always

762
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,240
offered video.
I know I see those comments all

763
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,520
the time.
And yes, that may be true, but

764
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,400
nobody knows about it or at
least nobody really knew about

765
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,480
it.
Not the masses.

766
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,960
The creators either didn't know
about it, didn't care about it

767
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,680
or didn't understand how to use
it.

768
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,880
So OK, maybe that was there,
that ability was there, but this

769
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,600
is officially happening.
Apple Podcast is expanding into

770
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,000
native video, giving creators
the ability to publish and

771
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,040
distribute video episodes
directly on their platform.

772
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,720
The move signals Apple's deeper
push into multimedia podcasting,

773
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:12,440
opening new creative and
monetization opportunities for

774
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,320
podcasters who want to go beyond
audio.

775
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,160
So the update positions Apple
more competitively alongside

776
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,320
platforms like YouTube and
Spotify that have already leaned

777
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,520
into video podcasting.
Creators can publish both audio

778
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,200
only and video versions of their
show, giving flexibility based

779
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,480
on audience preference.
Video podcasts remain playable

780
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,560
in the background, maintaining
the passive listening experience

781
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,520
many users value.
This expression expansion Pardon

782
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,280
Me could create new advertising
and sponsorship opportunities as

783
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,840
video inventory becomes
available.

784
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,600
The shift also reflects broader
industry trends where podcasting

785
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,880
is becoming more visual and
personality driven.

786
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,080
And for creators, production
expectations certainly may rise,

787
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,280
potentially increasing costs for
lighting, camera editing and set

788
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,360
design.
But also, let's be real, I think

789
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,960
a lot of newer podcasters are
coming in these days assuming

790
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,320
video, not just audio.
So this changes.

791
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,440
This change reinforces Apple's
intent to keep podcast

792
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,080
consumption within its ecosystem
rather than losing creators and

793
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,200
audiences to video first
platforms.

794
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,040
And also, just so you know, this
isn't going to be widely

795
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,400
available out of the gate.
You do still need to work

796
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,240
through a podcast hosting
platform.

797
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:43,160
We mentioned a couple examples
earlier, Lipson and Captivate

798
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,520
being examples, but not part of
this just yet.

799
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:52,200
The ones that it is available
with, it's a Cast Art 19, which

800
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,040
is an Amazon platform, Omni
Studio, which is part of Triton

801
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,680
Digital and Sirius XMS platforms
including SiriusXM Media Ads Wiz

802
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,240
and Simple Cast.
Yes, Ralph, what did you want to

803
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:08,720
say?
So I think we need to look under

804
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,760
the hood here and see what this
is really about.

805
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,640
This is about Apple making more
money because now with this

806
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,400
dynamic ad insertion, they are
going to charge a per insertion

807
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,280
ad fee for this.
And the players that are already

808
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,320
in there are all marketing
advertising platforms.

809
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:29,640
So what this really means is
that you are going to get more 6

810
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,080
minutes of advertisements in
your video podcast now, which is

811
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,800
something that I understand it
doesn't work well on YouTube.

812
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,160
I don't do any of that.
So I, I can't speak to that.

813
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,200
But but think about follow the
money here.

814
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,000
That's what we're really talking
about.

815
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Because as soon as I got James
Cridland did a great job of

816
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,320
getting into the details of
this.

817
00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:50,080
And when you really, when you
really look at the details of

818
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,120
this, it's all about that fee
that Apple's going to charge for

819
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,560
a per insertion dynamic ad in
the video.

820
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,200
So, Mark, I just think we've got
to follow the money here.

821
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,400
I, I don't yes, part of it, it's
staying on platform, but Apple's

822
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,560
a very wise company.
They know how to make money and

823
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,480
this is a way to make money.
They realize that money is going

824
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,680
to YouTube, money is going to
other platforms, and if they can

825
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,040
make more money on their
platform, they're going to do

826
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,880
it.
So I think it's about time they

827
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,720
did it.
But let's all realize what the

828
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:21,920
purpose is here.
Thank you, Ralph.

829
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,320
That's a fairpoint.
Alex, what did you want to say?

830
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,800
I'm just curious why now, like
you said, Ralph, but why now?

831
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,360
And why haven't they pushed this
sooner?

832
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,920
Yeah, Janae in the chat says why
not now?

833
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,560
And I mean, why now?
I think for one, they're

834
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,080
probably saying enough is
enough.

835
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,880
They're seeing Spotify and
YouTube taking hold of this

836
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,240
industry and it's an industry
that really Apple had the hold

837
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:52,240
on for a long time.
And so I think they're seeing

838
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:54,680
that slipping away.
Like Ralph said, it's a money

839
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,640
grab.
It's a money opportunity.

840
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,840
And let's be real, I think it
might have been Dave Jackson

841
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaking of, I think he was
saying that if it wasn't him, it

842
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,080
was somebody else that said, you
know, Apple is very smart,

843
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:10,520
right?
And they and they also sometimes

844
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,600
take their time to come out with
new things and new features.

845
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,880
And when they do, they tend to
do it really well, right?

846
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,640
So in that sense, I respect
that, right?

847
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,200
Like they, they took their time,
they waited, they figured out

848
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,720
what was going to work best for
their business model.

849
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,640
And now they're promoting it.
And eventually here soon, we're

850
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,640
going to be able to start seeing
more video on the platform.

851
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,800
Ralph, what did you want to add?
The other thing I want to say

852
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,960
that could be is I've saw some
specs for a new home pod that

853
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,920
Apple's going to release.
It has a screen with it and it

854
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,680
could very well be that they're
setting the table for, hey,

855
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,200
we're going to put a home pod in
your house.

856
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,520
And the coolest thing is it's
going to have a screen.

857
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,480
Why does it have a screen?
Because now you can watch it and

858
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,840
you can hear brilliant audio
underneath of it.

859
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,680
So it could be a strategic move
through something that gets

860
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,720
released into fall.
I have no inside information.

861
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,560
I'm not a insider with Apple,
but I just I've seen that spec

862
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,320
out there and I'm just thinking
about they're also talking about

863
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,400
a flip phone, which is going to
give you more physical real

864
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,120
estate on your phone.
So it could very well be that

865
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,120
they're just setting, setting
the table for everybody's on

866
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,600
video now and we're going to
have devices which are going to

867
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,000
make that better.
That certainly stays true to

868
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,240
Apple and how they do things.
So yeah, I appreciate that take.

869
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:30,000
Ralph Junaid says he doesn't
think Apple cares about losing

870
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,440
control of the podcast space.
He said they do things

871
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,720
strategically.
They waited four years before

872
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:39,040
they launched an MP3 device,
even though they were the ones

873
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,760
that really made MP3 devices a
thing.

874
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,560
So yeah, that's something to
think about, too, Jonathan says.

875
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,080
Folding iPhone.
Yeah, folding iPhone and Homepod

876
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,840
in the fall.
I'm very intrigued by those

877
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,360
folding phones.
I know that Android has one.

878
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,720
I've seen one and they're pretty
cool looking.

879
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,480
The reason why it's becoming so
big is because people are trying

880
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:08,480
to break their habit of social
media and scrolling, and that's

881
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,760
why I will never get one of
those.

882
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,680
Flips well here's the thing Dr.
So fair fair of you to assume

883
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,160
the old fashioned flip phone,
but this is more about this is a

884
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,240
new version of a flip phone.
It's a full screen B CS got 1

885
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:25,840
something like it's a full
screen when you flip it both

886
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,320
sides of the flip have a screen
and it and they and it all kind

887
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,560
of runs together.
They're not 2 separate screens.

888
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,640
It's one big screen when you
unflip it.

889
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,280
Is that right BC?
So actually I got a clarifying

890
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,920
question is, is this a flip
we're talking about or a fold?

891
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,360
A fold.
It's the right terminology.

892
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:45,960
Where it's still pretty linear.
A fold is more like a perfect

893
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,320
square when it's opened up.
OK, but that still does exactly

894
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,240
what we're talking about, right?
Like that flips open and then

895
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,080
you get a full screen from the
top side and the bottom side.

896
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,200
Yeah.
Yeah.

897
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,080
So that's what Apple is talking
about.

898
00:52:59,080 --> 00:52:59,880
Samsung.
By the way.

899
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,480
Samsung, OK, gotcha.
Samsung, OK, cool.

900
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,680
Well all right gang, listen, I
think we are good for news

901
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,000
today.
We have more stories and quite

902
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,640
possibly could I guess cover
some more tomorrow.

903
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,360
Ralph is taking the reins
Thursday and Friday because if

904
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:21,040
you were listening yesterday I
shared this 52 year old guy has

905
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,280
got to get his wisdom teeth
pulled tomorrow.

906
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,760
Tomorrow morning, 9:00 AM.
Not looking forward to it to be

907
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,000
honest with you, but.
Be a good little soldier, a good

908
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,480
little soldier.
Get that lollipop at the end.

909
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,160
And you get all the all the.
Sherburn and ice cream you want.

910
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,800
Yeah, they ain't giving me
lollipops after teeth removal

911
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,480
like that.
But yes, you know, it's really

912
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,760
obviously the surgery itself I'm
not really uncomfortable about.

913
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,760
It's just more the recovery.
I'm hoping for a very quick and

914
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,040
painless one.
We shall see, but Ralph will

915
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,960
take over tomorrow.
Ralph, we're doing mail back

916
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,560
tomorrow, right?
Yes, I've got some very cool

917
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,200
questions.
For the next two days, I'm going

918
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:05,920
to plant a little seed here.
If someone gave you $5000, where

919
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,840
would you spend that in your
content creation model?

920
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,120
So that's one of things we're
going to talk about either

921
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,360
tomorrow or Friday.
So I've got some real juicy

922
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,880
questions.
I've scoured the network and

923
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,800
I've found some really good
ones, but that's when I thought

924
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,280
that is perfect.
If you've got that money, what

925
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,520
would you do with it?
I like.

926
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:26,040
That put it all on black baby.
Yes.

927
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,880
Oh, I forgot you.
When you get your wisdom teeth

928
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,240
pulled, you get all the Tylenol
that you can take because that's

929
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:34,440
all you usually can can have.
Because I had my wisdom teeth

930
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,440
come through when I was at
Disney, the happiest place on

931
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,400
earth.
It was a lot of fun.

932
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,840
Like I said, not looking forward
to it, but thank you.

933
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,800
OK wait who said what?
I I forget I wanted to respond

934
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,920
to something but now I've lost
my place so. $5000.

935
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,240
Yes, here's what I was going to
say.

936
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:55,480
I also have handed the official
PMC mailbag over to Ralph as

937
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,880
well so he can dig through that
mailbag with everyone and answer

938
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,040
all of your podcasting
questions.

939
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,800
So we're back tomorrow, not
yours truly, but I will try to

940
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,120
pop in on Friday as well just to
check in and let everyone know

941
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,440
how I'm feeling and hearing my
mouths filled with gauze,

942
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,800
etcetera.
So join us tomorrow, 7:00 AM

943
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,800
Eastern.
Live on all the streaming

944
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,600
platforms are just about anyway.
And of course, live on

945
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,040
Clubhouse, 7:00 AM Eastern.
Get all that

946
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,920
info@podcastingmorningchat.com
until tomorrow.

947
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:33,280
Make it a great day everybody,
take care.