345 - Qualities of a Super Guest & Signs They're the Right Fit

0:05 Good morning podcasting, morning chat. Today is Friday, July 25th. 2025 and today we've got an update on the book Dopey podcast ban we discussed. Yesterday, we'll explore what. Really makes a podcast guest shine and then. Of course we'll celebrate. Our wins from this past week. So if you're listening live on Clubhouse or Chatter, hit the share button, bottom left hand side of the screen on Clubhouse and top of the screen on Chatter. And if you're listening via podcast? Please share this episode with a fellow. Podcaster and now give us. About 30 seconds and. We'll get things rolling. Thanks for being here. Good morning again, podcasting Morning Chat. Thank you for being here.

1:24 I am your host Mark Ronik, and here with me on stage we have on the clubhouse. Stage Dr. Fey producer Ashley Feller and Amanda Sharp. I believe Nick and all back will be joining us. Shortly also. Shout out to someone who's not here, Sid Meadows, who is still on vacation and if you're following him on Instagram, you are enjoying and maybe a little. Envious of his trip, he's. Definitely going all around the world and we wish him and his wife. All the best. While they are enjoying that vacation and of course on stage with me on Clubhouse. Oh, of course I didn't. Look, I'm sorry. And on Chatter, I should say Nick is over here on Chatter. So Nick Naulback is here with me, and so is Jonathan. Howard good to have Nick.

2:13 Here and we've also got Amanda Yoa and Nozzle. Amanda Yoa, we all know from at least on the clubhouse side and Nozzle is a. Chatter person, he's helped. He helps with all the tech builds. The tech does all the things and helped us get comfortable here on Chatter this week. Shout out to Mike Short in the audience right now. Chatter, good to see you over here. Mike, OK, so here's what I want to do. I've got a couple of quick housekeeping items, then we're going to get into the topic of guests. And of course then we'll wrap up with our wins from the week. But I it's really important to me to. Start with yesterday.

2:53 I want to take a moment to acknowledge something that went on yesterday so it looks like most of you who I'm seeing here live know. But we also have a. Podcast audience. And maybe they didn't. Hear Yesterday we had a. Passionate discussion around feeling like a fraud and public speaking and at several points Paula, who brought this? To the table shared that. Public speaking is something that she genuinely doesn't want to do. Despite her being clear about. That, and saying it honestly, a few times throughout that 20 or so minute conversation, several of us, including me, continued to encourage her to reconsider. That moment understandably caused her some frustration and confusion, and maybe some of us were confused too. After the room ended, Paul and I did speak a little bit about what came up and I've taken some time to reflect since then because ultimately I feel it's my responsibility to make. Sure, that.

3:58 Anyone who joins our conversations on stage or in the audience in the chat, feel safe, feel seen. And comfortable sharing whatever they choose. To bring to the table and I know that. I did hear. And acknowledge Paula's stance later in that conversation, even prior to Amanda, which I'm grateful Amanda brought it back mentioning the fact that Paula had said that she didn't want to public speak and where I misstepped was in not stepping in sooner. To redirect the conversation. Once it kept circling back to encouraging her. Now I also want to say this.

4:39 I know that every one of us who chimed in yesterday. I know. This to be true. This is my truth. We all did. So with the best intentions and I mentioned. That to Paula, too. We're a community built on encouragement and empowerment, and I truly believe the energy in that room came from a place of wanting to uplift Paula and offer. Her what we thought might be helpful support that said, here's. Where I believe we missed the mark and where I take ownership, we could have done a better job of listening first.

5:21 Of. Hearing Paula's original, I'll call it a concern, asking a few clarifying questions, meaning us we should have been asking a few clarifying questions and. Giving her the space to tell us whether she. Wanted input or encouragement before jumping in with our perspectives and as a person that's. Guiding the conversation it's. On me to read the moment and help steer the conversation accordingly. And I want to be. Clear this. I'm not. Frustrated. This isn't about being frustrated with anybody not. At all. I'm proud of the heart that this. Community has and I'm proud of how we often. Get to do this right?

6:07 Have these conversations right? 99% of the time we can have the respectful and open conversations even when we don't. Agree. So yesterday reminded. Me of something important. Even with the best intentions, we still need to listen closely. And I want you to hear me when I say this. Empowerment, which is like I said earlier, what we're built on means meeting people where they are, not where we think they should be. And without listening to them and really understanding them, we're not able to meet them where they are. So for me, I'm taking that yesterday as a moment, a learning one, a reminder of what it means to lead this community with care and to hold space with good intention. I appreciate.

7:08 Paula for expressing how she felt and I appreciate all of you for the love and support that you constantly show not. Just to each other, but to this whole space that we've built. And continue. To build together so let's. Keep growing, let's keep empowering, and let's keep listening just a little bit better every time that we show up. And I don't want to have a big conversation about this today, I really think. Out of respect for Paula. Out of respect. For the conversation and. Out of respect.

7:49 For moving forward, I really don't want to keep digging into this because it was an emotional. Day yesterday. I know it was for Paula, I know it was for me and some others. And like I said, with some reflection some time, this is where I've landed and I'd like to move on. So with that being said, let me share a quick. Update with you guys and reopen the floor if you. Will on the dopey podcast band that I. Shared with you yesterday if you're. You're new to the conversation. Yesterday I. Shared I know a guy who has been doing this. Podcast dopey for almost. 10 years now and it's. A podcast he started with a really. Close friend of his on drug addiction and recovery and being able.

8:39 To also share. Stories and be able to laugh about it as much as they can and it has grown wildly since they started 9 1/2 years ago. And unfortunately, most. Of that growth. Came after the passing of. Dave's Co host Dave is. A family member of mine and I've worked with him and Chris a little bit, but mostly with Dave. After Chris left us. On his podcast, helping him out, helping him figure things out, I on occasion he would call me and we would have good conversations about it. And he's grown that podcast to 22 million plus downloads since then. He's had major celebrities on that show that were are recovering addicts and he's had everyday people on that show as well. He's really made.

9:27 Something of it and Instagram on the week of the anniversary of Chris's passing. Decided to. Take down his 50,000 follower account because they felt that he was promoting drug use. Not the case. And so I. Shared about this yesterday morning and surprisingly, just a few hours later, the ban was lifted. Instagram gave it back. It's so funny too, because I say it's funny because they don't even communicate with you. Not when they take it down. They don't give you warnings and when they take it down, they really don't even say anything about. It it's just you're. Magically gone from their world and the same happened when they came back up, all of a sudden it was there and. Rightfully so, because yesterday was the. Actual anniversary of Chris's passing. Which they over.

10:20 In that dopey community, they call it Christmas, appropriately. Named, so they had their. Christmas miracle yesterday and got their account back and. Dave is very grateful and appreciative of us, of our efforts even. I don't know how much of an impact we personally made because he clearly, I know, was working behind the scenes to get that account back. For the past several days, but maybe I'd like. To think we'd had a little something to do with it. So kudos. Congratulations to the Dopey Podcast and check that out. It's. Really an interesting and fun show too at times. A lot of times and then the last update I want to give. You is the podcast awards, podcast awards dot.

11:02 Com as some of you know. We are here at the. Podcasting. Morning chat Nominated. For three. Awards No2. Sorry, I'm giving myself an extra 1. Two awards, the 1st. One that I I'm asking you to please, please. Give us your vote. You just go. To podcastawards.com. Register for. Free, which takes you about a minute and then look. For us, under 2 categories. First the category Adam Curry People's Choice Award. You pull up the drop. Down under that award, you'll see a list of nominees. It's all alphabetically listed. Look for us under the TS for the podcasting morning. Chat and then. Also, we're under the education.

11:43 Category. So same thing. Go to, find the education category, choose the drop down window and then find us under. T for the podcasting morning. Chat. Would really appreciate your vote. And as. DRDR. What's? You want to share? Your hack for us? It's I've been talking so much, I feel like I need to get somebody else involved. My hack is that if you have more than one e-mail address, most of us do to use that as a way to vote more than one time. Yes. Please, we need your vote. It would be awesome. For us, it would be a community win for us for sure, 'cause this is not all me doing making this.

12:23 Show the what it is. So this would be a win for all of us that I would. Yeah, that I would absolutely share with you. So please. Do what you can. Let's let's continue to put this show on the map. By the way, welcome to the stage to Co host Alex Baelish. Also, Sharon is on stage with us over on Clubhouse. Wait, so if we win, since it's a we a thing, is it like the Stanley cop where we get to like each have the the the award at our house so we can do whatever we want for like a week or something like that? Sure, sure if. There's a physical award. I would be happy to. Pass it around. Well, good thing Billy's not here, because he'd probably try to sell it on eBay or something, but the rest of us might have some. Yeah, and hey Alex, by the way, this is not podcasting related, so I will give it just a minute, Alex. Yet last night I saw Fantastic Four and loved it. I want to see it, I just don't know if I can get over Pedro Pascal.

13:24 As you will, you will. I liked it better than Superman. I know I told you guys when I saw Superman, I was a little disappointed. I still enjoyed the movie. I just did. It didn't live up to my expectations. Fantastic Four wasn't my favorite ever superhero movie and it's one of them. It's up there on the list. So if you're a superhero. Fan I say go to it and if you're a. Casual superhero. Fan but don't like to go to a lot of these movies 'cause you feel like. There's a lot of back. Story you have to cut catch up with. This is not one of those. Movies. There's no big back. Story You don't have to know the. Whole Marvel Universe to enjoy. It and it's very much a grounded movie, very much about family. Clearly.

14:06 Because it is a movie, they are a family, so check that out if you're interested in it. I give it my stamp of approval. Now let's talk. About Earlier this week we had a. Really good conversation about guests gone wrong and how to handle them and I've even heard from people reaching out that. Don't listen. Here live that our podcast listeners that have reached out saying that it was a. Really helpful episode. And I thought that today we could discuss what makes. A great guest. Great. So there was a recent. Success. That's the name of the. Site article titled. Podcast guest tips that Dr. had found and the.

14:47 Advice focused. On how to how guests can make a strong impression by being professional, being prepared, engaging, those are kind of. The three that I think. Most of us assume if we're going to be a guest right, to show up, be professional, be prepared, be engaging. You may question that Professional 1. I might substitute it with authentic. But the article stresses the importance. To podcast guests of doing your homework on the host on the show promoting. The episode after it airs. Building rapport with the host and not just treating the show as a marketing tool, which we talked about. Some guests do that, but as hosts, I want to see if we agree with this list. What's missing or misunderstood from a podcaster's perspective? So I think we'll start.

15:38 With I'll open the floor. I'll. Share The overarching question today is what makes someone a great podcast guest. From a host's perspective, because most of us here are. Hosts have been hosts. But I'll start with this. What's? Something, a guest maybe, that you've had on your show. That they did that made your job easier. As the host, you had a guest on. What's something that the guest did? That made your job easier. And I see Jonathan already had his hand up before. I just asked that question. So we'll put him on the spot, but we'll also see let's. What do you got to? Say for us, Jonathan. I will say that really it's somebody who's ready and willing to have the conversation, whatever that conversation may be.

16:21 So it may not be exactly what the topic was, but something comes up and you're ready and willing to have that conversation. That's somebody that's a great podcast cast guest because they're on their toes, they're able to talk about different things and it just makes it a lot easier. I would say that especially because like with myself and Mimi at the beginning of the podcast, we chat about whatever. So having you know somebody who can chat about whatever like you and Erica and we're able to do is awesome. Yeah, I like that. I Yeah, Good guest. You you feel like they're already part of the show they're already part of. The they, they get it. That's a big one for me too. And how? Do they do that?

17:02 I think that goes back to one of the things I just said a moment ago. It's really doing your homework. Listen to a few episodes, Get to know. Who the hosts are? You may pick up on things like, you know, like for example. If a guest a future. Guest were listening to today's show and then I have them on let's say next week they may say to me hey Mark I saw that new Fantastic Four movie I loved it they latch on to some things that may be. You as the host. Share personally or professionally and then bring it, circle it back and show. Yeah, I I know some things about you. It really loosens things up when a guest does that. Now I'm looking over at the clubhouse stage and Alex and Ashley have something.

17:46 So I'm going to go to Alex and then we'll check in with Ashley. Go ahead, Alex. Ashley was first. She had her hand. All right, what a gentleman. Let's go to. Ashley, go for it. Aw, thanks, Alex. I've had some really, really nice guests. I had one guest who was a video editor themselves and they asked for the raw video and they cut their own clips, so that was pretty sweet. And then I had another. Guest who? Was involved in the spa industry and the very next day they were like, come by the spa and we'll give you massages and skin care. So that was pretty cool too. Nice, I love that. That's awesome. Thank you for that share, Ashley. And I'll keep it going. Let's check in with Alex now. Go ahead, Alex.

18:28 So basically Ashley said she just wants people to do her work and give her stuff, and that's what makes a good guess. Hey, what's wrong with that? Too bad the episode never aired but they got free stuff. I think that the best thing about a guest, like when you have a good guest, they understand time and they understand like how to answer a question. And I know that sound it. It's just like one of those things that is so important. Like I'm not saying they understand that it is sound bites and that it's about moments. And yeah, but being I think what you're getting at is like, you know, being really concise to the point and try to do them, like you said, sound bites. I wanted to stop you because I think that's an important piece, you know, being able to give your answer valuable pieces of information within like a 30 second time limit because then they can easily, the host can easily extract that and put it. Out there as a social.

19:26 Media clip if you're giving them. Less work to do. If you can get concise, is that what you're saying? Yeah, as well as you can have a long conversation, you can have an hour conversation, you have a 2 hour, whatever conversation it is. But also understanding that give and take, I know we talked about this earlier with other episodes, You know, how do you get a guest to give up the mic, so to speak, if they have a long answer? Or. They go on a tangent. It's the same type of thing. You have to be able to juggle that. And I think especially with this type of forum on Clubhouse Blast Chatter, it's really important because we're we're like ping ponging all over the place and everybody wants to get their little two cents in and you have to manage it.

20:10 You know, whether you're someone that like you, Mark, who's hosting it or us who are just kind of in the background, we all have to be respectful of that. So that's why I'll shut up now. Thank you, Alex. I see here on Chatter, we've got Nick wanting to chime in. Go for it, Nick. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. Some of my favorite guests are the ones that enthusiastically share your episode or their episode on in social media. I tried to make it as simple as possible when I was doing the 95 podcast with every guest that I had, I would create different social media posts and I do it some sizes and things like that that I could give to the guest to help promote and share the episode.

20:54 And even doing that it he was hit or miss on whether or not people would share and the guest that would go out of their way and like even not even use the posts that I share, but post their own stuff to say, hey, I was on this podcast. That to me was the best because everyone knows promotion is the hardest part of podcasting, getting your name out of there. And when a guest will do that and help lift each other up like that to me is the best. Yeah, I'm with you, Nick. And I think one of the things. That I get really happy. About from a guest after. The show is over. When they asked me. If I would be. Willing to share the file with them of the episode so that they can go and pull out what they want to pull out from the episode and share it to their own social media.

21:45 I love that. Because I know what they're doing. I at least a lot of them, I know what they're doing. They're doing that so that they can put it together in a way they can brand it in. Their way. So that it really looks and feels like it's their content so that when their audience lands on it, they can connect with that and say, oh, that's so and so's post. I'm stopping the scroll. I want to hear what they have to say. I'm with you there, Nick. I think any guest who really makes an effort in some way to to promote. Their episode that makes our lives. Easier and really I think. Helps the growth of the show, or at least. Of that episode, I see Janae wants to chime in. Janae's on stage over on Clubhouse. Go for it, Janae.

22:27 Good morning. Good morning, everyone. Happy Friday. So excited to be here and this is my favorite question. You do have a lot of guests on your show. I do have a. Lot of guests on my show excited to talk about this because some of the things that people don't realize and, and I've, I've seen these guests, they actually tell you stories when you ask your question, right? They tell you stories, they go and be vulnerable when they're sharing that. When they do that, you feel more open and the audience who's listening, they feel more open. And all the things that you guys mentioned about researching the host, how they talk about facts about who the Hostess, these things are excellent.

23:13 But being vulnerable, being time effective, those things are absolutely some of the things that make them a go from a good guest to becoming a really great guest. And thank you for this question or or, you know, bringing this up because it's inspired me to do an episode on this as well. Yeah. Nice, but you made you have your your piece of advice about being a guest that you put in the chat. It's the greatest piece of advice ever given. What is it? Tell me, Junaid, either one of you. Says don't be a tool. That's pretty much it. That's pretty much. Don't be a tool. That about thumbs it up. Tool is an amazing band, but don't be 1. And when you mean that, when you say that, now are you saying? It in the figurative.

24:02 Way of, you know, it's almost like I want to say a nickname, but it's a nickname is endearing. It's more of a an insult, if you will. Or do you mean it more literally in the sense like? Don't come on there to be just a tool, just a. Machine that just spits out robotic answers. Be something you know. Be more human. Yes, being more human. Just earlier today I was on LinkedIn and this gentleman posted a screenshot from from Riverside and he's asking like, here's a really awesome interview, but Riverside never takes endearing photos of you when you're recording. Always the most awkward ones.

24:43 I'm like, yes, that makes us more human. There you go. Yeah. And I think the storytelling aspect is certainly A+ when you have a guest on a guest that can tell you. A story. Especially, let's say you have. Some guest expert on who's there to pour? In to your audience to give advice to that's going to be actionable that they can really take away and do something with. I think that if they can do it. In. Story if they can tell. You their own stories of how they. Overcame something or how they learned a lesson as opposed to just telling you how to learn your own lesson or how to. Do a certain thing that.

25:24 Lands a lot more on most people. They're able to put themselves in the story, and they're able. To relate and they're able. To then tie together. How can I use this to my advantage? I'm so glad that I took that the wrong way. Evidently what you wrote to me, I, I got to tell you, that's not where I was going with it because unfortunately we've all had guests that were not the tool that you were talking about, but the tool that I was thinking about because. And it applies just the same, Alex. If you'd say. So it does it applies just the same. Don't be a tool. Yes, in that in that figurative sense, I'm with you. Go ahead, Jonathan.

26:06 No, because I was just going to say that it applies in the sense that, you know, don't be a tool for Jackass, whatever you want to say. Or Jackass, Sure. How do you know right away when someone is a? Great fit for your show. Whether you've connected with them as a potential guest. Or. Maybe as their guest. Like what is? What are some other? Ways that you know instantly. This is a great fit for the show. They offer to let you edit your podcast at the spa. Oh wow, yeah, that. Would like Ashley gets to do. So for me to share the podcast appearance that I did, that means that the host would have to ask me something that's never been asked before because my followers have heard everything about me. So let's be a little bit ingenious and let's talk about something that maybe my followers have never heard before.

27:06 I think that's important and that's going to help that particular author be more likely to share. The other thing I was going to say is that I think you always have to be aware of the situation where the host and the guests are really good friends. One of the things that I hear all the time is remember, it's just a conversation. It's not an interview. But that's not always true if you have two friends who are talking. I had the experience, and I think I've told Mark this. I had the experience a couple months ago of editing a show where the hosting guests were really good friends.

27:46 And then all of a sudden the host said, you know, I'm trying to get Tony to come on the show. Oh, Tony's great. You know what? I went to temple with Tony. You really went to temple with Tony? Yeah. And oh, you know what? It's not the same Tony. I think we're thinking of two different Tonys. That's OK. I went to temple with two different Tonys. And I mean, all of a sudden this show was like, where where are we going? What is this? What's happening? What's happening? So it is not always a conversation, sometimes it is an interview and you really have to be cognizant of that. Yeah, I'm with you there, Dr. And I think really for me what what it comes down to. Is it's.

28:26 Always, if it's a podcast and you are bringing somebody into that episode new to the show, that's a guest and it's an interview first, in my opinion, it's always. Interview first. And then yes of. Course it's a conversation but you have to remember their your reasons for doing. This podcast. You're doing it for an. Audience right you and if you want to put on a good show for your audience it's. Got to be an interview. 1st and then how do I make this quote UN quote? Interview feel like a conversation. That's the art. Of hosting a guest on a podcast, Jeff is on the stage here on Chatter. Good morning.

29:07 Jeff, did you want to add to this good guest conversation? Yeah, I said to me, it's great if the person watches the show. And frankly, if someone says, hey, Jeff, I listen to these two episodes, my demeanor changes 100% with that guest, but I don't count on that. And if they're coming on to my show, So it's like, I always think like it's my role to ensure that they're going to guess. Now, do they have to be gregarious and answer questions and not go, yes, you know, one word answers. Yes, I think those I think being a good conversationalist, they have to come to the table with. But if the ultimate end of it, whether it's a good show or not, I think is the role of the host, I mean to guide it and eventually edit it and kind of take it that way and make them them feel comfortable.

29:55 Everything so far we've talked about is them making the host feel comfortable. And I think it's the host job to do that. That's why we're the host. Yeah, I'm with you there and I'm, I appreciate you making that distinction. And I. I think it's really. On both people. And you're right, I think in the big picture. If I had to put. The onus on one more than the other I. Would say it's the host. Job to make the guest. Feel comfortable. And maybe one of the ways that a host can do that is to. Encourage the guest to go. Back and listen to an. Episode or two or host that pre. Interview with the guest first so that they can feel comfortable. Yeah, I'm with you. Thanks for that, Jeff.

30:36 All right. Listen, we have about 20 minutes left. I want to Does anybody else want to chime in on this conversation of what makes a good guest great? OK, then here's where. I want to take this. It is Friday, so let's. Share our wins from this. Past. Week and this is the first time doing this on 2 platforms simultaneously, so I have to figure this out on the fly. I did not think that. Through. Fully admit and I think. Where I will start is here. On chatter with Jeff since we were just talking to him. So Jeff, go for. It just across 500,000 views, you know, it's just, it's just, it is what it is. It's just a number. I mean, it was big enough for you to buddy to make a little. Graphic for you.

31:20 Graphic for it. So it must be a big deal, right? I've been having a lot of luck lately with YouTube Shorts. That's how really helped kind of make that growth happen as quickly as it has. Thank you for that and I know Jeff's also been seeing some success on TikTok with some of his videos. Over there as well, so Jeff's. Definitely getting some traction with his podcast content. Congratulations to you. Jeff and look at. That, and here's a win. I'll share with. Jeff, he got somebody from. Clubhouse to jump over here. On Chatter we've got Janae who was was over on the clubhouse stage. He jumped stages. Janae, good morning. Do you want to share any wins with us? Good morning, gentlemen and ladies. I got to be a guest on David Campbell's show last week and Kate Wohlman was a guest on my show last week. Super excited for that and of course, getting to the 800, speaking out a few stages and just so excited to take this journey on as we grow together.

32:24 Also secured a couple of clients for building their studios. So that's for me. Thanks so much guys. Awesome. Thank you, Janae and. Cool to hear you. Collaborating with some community members as well. Nice to hear you and Dave did an interview together recently. So I'm going to let you guys over on Clubhouse share your wins and I will go ahead. But first I'll. Go ahead and share mine. So first, although today is a little. Bumpy. We've had a very successful first week of. Simulcasting to Clubhouse to. Chatter to YouTube Live and. Chatter has been awesome. That's one, one win. And then I also finalized a new.

33:07 Sale this week I am. Creating and managing another meta AD campaign for one of my clients, my existing podcast clients. So that's one. And then the next one is, is that we? Started another previously to this sale we already. Had another meta ads campaign running for another one of my podcast clients and it's going really well and I thought. I would share the results with you. So this is. Only within about a. Week or so of. The ad campaign running since this at these ads are running 674 clicks. This is all going through meta 3709 reach so it got to.

33:51 In front of 30. 700 people, they've only spent 23. Dollars to do that so. Out of 674 clicks, 118 of those clicks are attributed to the ones that. We have two places that they're clickers can. Go 1 is to their website, another is to their podcast player. You know, the podcast itself. So 118 of those 674 clicks. Are attributed to the. Ones going to the website, so that means 556 are going to the podcast player and out of those 118 clicks, just about 100 of them. Are actual verified legitimate traffic. Through the meta Facebook.

34:32 Pixel. So that's the little. Tracking code that you put on a website so that you can. See the actual traffic. Coming in to your website. So those are three big. Wins this week and of course I got to go see Fantastic Four, which was awesome. Now let me just check in real quick with Clubhouse Dr. I'm asking you if you don't mind. Take the lead. Well, my win for the week is that I have learned how to get on chatter. That's my win for the week. I, I got to tell you, that's a pretty huge win because I had such a huge hard time trying to get on. I was on and then it wouldn't let me get back on.

35:14 So when's the last time you tried? Now I can get on a lot, but like there was a period there for like about like 2 months where it wouldn't let me log on, right? But I'm so happy because it's pretty neat. The thing about Chatter is I just wish they had more rooms all the time. But it's definitely a fun platform and there's a lot of great features on it that I think a lot of people all enjoy. Ashley, what are your wins? Oh my wins for this week is just simply making it to today. I've had a very busy week, got a lot of great editing done, and today is Friday. You can't go wrong with that. Amanda, what's your wins for today or week? I had a good TikTok video kind of go a little bit viral, so that was nice.

35:56 And I do get paid on TikTok now. So it's not a lot of money, but it's fun when you make some money off of doing something. So that was fun. And then I'll also throw in a win that even though Chris and I are on a break, our downloads continue to like continue to rise, which is really fun since we haven't really created anything new in a month. So to see our numbers still continue to grow and let all of our hard work in the past few years like kind of work for us during this break has just been a lot of fun. Thank you and to all of you here on Chatter and of. Course to our clubhouse community over there. Appreciate you and. Appreciate a great week.

36:36 Of shows Jonathan, a big shout out and thank you to you for helping us make this week go so smoothly and for the months and months of encouragement to come and be on Chatter. As you know, I was just patiently waiting to find a way. To be able to do. Both and. Now we can and I am. Grateful for your help. Grateful. For the team at Chatter and that includes you, Leah, and I know Nozzle has left, but that includes him as well. Thank you all for making me feel so. Comfortable. And welcome here on Chatter. A reminder, we are back next week Tuesday. Through Friday, 7:00 AM Eastern. Live on Clubhouse, live on Chatter, live on YouTube as well. Come join us and until then, make it a great weekend. Everybody take care.