441. The Hidden Time Drains in Podcasting

0:04 Good morning podcasting morning chat. Today is Friday, January 23rd, 2026, and today mail back questions from frustrated podcasters, recording setups, platform freezes, posting concerns, and we'll wrap up with community wins from this past week. And I didn't hit the post, so if you're listening live on Clubhouse, hit the share button, bottom left hand, side of the screen and share it. However, Clubhouse lets you. And if you're catching us via podcast, YouTube, LinkedIn, please share this with a fellow podcaster. And now give us about 30 seconds. We'll get things rolling. Thanks for being here.

1:20 Good morning again, podcasting, Morning chat. Thanks so much for being here. I am your host, Mark Roddick, and currently on stage with me we have producer Ashley Feller, Ralph Estep, BC Babbles, Dr. Faye, Sid Meadows and Nick Nallback. And if you want to learn more about those fine people, fine podcasters, content creators, just go to podcastingmorningchat.com, go to the about page, and you can learn about each and every one of them. And you can connect with them over there too. We have links, all sorts of different links, different ways that you can connect with them. And thank you to this team for another great week of shows. I'm looking forward to today's. As I said, we're going to be digging into the mailbag today. I've got 3 questions from listeners and our community, like Dr. for example, that hit on different things like tools, workflows, and platform decisions podcasters are dealing with currently.

2:20 So we'll work through those together, and we'll wrap up with wins from the week at the end, and we'll give that some real time today. So start thinking about something that you want to share from your past week. Let's dive into the mailbag. I should probably come up with a sound effect where it sounds like I'm rustling through papers pulling out the next question, right? That would be here. I'll do it myself. What am I talking about? All right, getting out the mailbag. And this one comes actually as Adm that I received from a listener. His name is Jeff. I got this over on LinkedIn.

3:00 I told him we're going to be talking about it today, and he was appreciative of that. Jeff has been using Riverside for a long time and says he knows it well, but lately he's been running into what he's calling serious issues. He's using specifically the the editing tool. He's saying that it's freezing a lot, that it's moving slowly, and he's having trouble. Well, not trouble, but he just says support hasn't been able to give him a quick, simple fix. He's using the free version of Riverside, and he does his editing and publishing through Riverside, but the twist is that he actually records his interviews on Zoom first, and then he uploads them to Riverside to edit and publish.

3:47 One of the great features I think, of Riverside is the fact that, yeah, you can record in whatever tool you're comfortable with if you're not wanting to use Riverside for whatever reason, and then you can upload it to Riverside and use all of its great tools and features. He says his computer, and I'll explain why. He says his computer is 3 to 5 years old. He feels like it has plenty of storage, memory, etcetera. So from his perspective, he feels like this is a platform issue. I'll explain a little bit more why. I'm sharing this part with you in a moment. He's frustrated because Riverside has been one of the biggest pain points in his podcast journey, which really surprises me. But he's also hesitant to leave because he knows the platform well.

4:32 He says money is tight and he really needs a free or low cost option. So if you were in Jeff's situation, using Zoom to record, needing a free or low cost solution, and wanting to keep things simple for non tech savvy guests, that's one of the reasons why he does what he's doing. Would you stick with Riverside and troubleshoot? Or would you change your workflow or platform? And if you'd switch, what would you recommend and why? And I see several people want to chime in. Let me just give you a little bit more of the back story there. That whole thing about his computer being three to five years old, one of the things I asked him was about his computer because I used to have some of these problems that he's describing when I was using Riverside on my old computer that I had just over a year ago. And I felt like it was a pretty powerful machine. It was a laptop, but I felt like it was a pretty powerful machine.

5:33 But I still was having trouble and Riverside was telling me they thought maybe it could be my computer not being able to handle it, but I just didn't want to believe it. But then it turned out I needed, I wanted to get a new computer, not be I didn't get it just because of Riverside, I assure you and I, it was time. I felt like it was time to get a newer computer 'cause I wanted something more powerful as AI really becomes more and more prominent in the technology space. And that cleared up everything. As a result, Riverside works very smoothly for me now. But clearly this person, Jeff, is trying to save money. So I don't think the solution is go buy a new computer.

6:15 But I did want to point that out that a lot of times I don't think it's actually the software, even though we want to blame the software. There's one more thing I wanted to say about that and it's escaping me. OK, I'll let it go and I'm going to go to BC 1st and get some advice from BC. What do you think Jeff should do? BCI. Was going to ask about the laptop too. You know, I think for Riverside right now, even with it being five years old, so long as he has like 16 gigs of memory, it should run pretty smoothly. So I was curious about that. But I'm also curious about did he happen to mention, because we know Riverside, it handles so much for us, we really just kind of record or upload to it and give it 15 good minutes, if that, and it has most of the things figured out for us.

7:00 So I'm curious as to whether or not he happened to mention how much of the creative lift he might be willing to take on. Because otherwise you could look at options like Cap Cut, Premiere Pro, which have nice, you know, creative areas to kind of Orient all the different elements and make a really nice polished show. Did he happen to get into that at all? He did not, no, But a good question for him to think about. I think like cap cut, even free should be a pretty I think it's I think it's a bit simpler than premiere Pro, but that might be a better option. It's it's pretty good on the free version, and it's not quite as confusing looking as, say, Premiere Pro can be, so that might be a good option for him. Absolutely.

7:44 I know several people that use it. I'm guessing it's got to be video since he's doing Zoom and moving it over to Riverside. Yeah, I think Cap Cut could be a good one for sure. I do remember what I was going to say a moment ago. One of the things that I think was I was dealing with my old computer and Riverside was the fact that yeah, it did. It was pretty robust it as far as what was built inside of that computer. But I also had a lot of things running multiple heavy apps, you know, that really take a lot out of the computer, probably multiple running at the same time. And I had multiple hardware devices plugged into it.

8:25 And at the time that was my MacBook Pro. And that too can also really 'cause a machine to slow down. Did you want to say something to BC? Yeah, and I was going to say if it's possible, have him check to see how much memory he has and if he happens to have maybe not quite as much. I think even 8 gigs should allow Riverside to be pretty functional. But I would say even though it's five years old, see if have him look into seeing whether or not his memories upgradeable, if that's an option for him, maybe a quick little, you know, decent investment 16 to 32. And if that happens to be the core issue, then that's going to pretty much fix everything. Fair enough. BCA, lot of people want to chime in here. I'm going to try to go in order.

9:08 Sid, I believe you were next in line. Good morning to you. What did you want to add to this? Can I just pop in real quick? Just a clarification on what BC said. When he when BC is talking about memory, he's talking about RAM. He's not talking about storage memory, he's talking about RAM memory. Yeah, that is a big difference. Thank you, Nick. Appreciate that. Yeah, Sid, go for it. Good morning, everybody. I want to be super clear, this is above my pay grade. I don't do this. I don't use this tool, but in the essence of problem solving, one of the things I might do is a test and record inside of Riverside like a 10 minute, like just a test, talk to somebody right and see if whatever, if it's a see if the problem might be originating with the Zoom recording. If the same things happen, then he knows it's not his actual recording.

10:02 So I might do a test like that just to see. But I think that's a great idea and we know that Jeff is using the free version, which it should be no problem. He should still be able to record and like you're saying and then yeah, once he that recording has processed, pull it into the Riverside editor and start playing and see if you are experiencing the same issues. I think that's a good one. And just and going back to what BC and I were talking about, same idea. I would go into Riverside. If you want to use your Zoom recording, shut down all other apps that are running. Make sure that you don't have everything plugged into your computer, every port plugged in, and just try to do it as simple as you can and see if that makes a difference too. OK, let's go to Ashley.

10:50 Ashley, did you want to add anything? Good morning. I agree. I would check your processes running on your computer to see if there's anything bogging down the speed. And I would also go to, I think it's Internet speedtest.com. I would just put that in the Google search and that will let you know how your Internet connection is performing. Because if I'm not mistaken, Riverside kind of works in the same way the script does where you actually upload a file to the Internet and it runs off of an Internet connection. So if your inner speed's not the greatest, then that can cause your video to freeze and have interruptions. And I'm what said I would try to take Zoom out of the chain because maybe there's something up with the recording itself.

11:36 Maybe there's something up with the compression rate. I would try all those things and as far as you know, finding a low cost replacement editor software, I would try Davinci Resolve. There's very little automations, a lot of those are manual processes, but it can save you a lot of money. I love that. Thank you, Ashley. And I think why this is so important, why we're not saying, you know what, just dump Riverside. Maybe I'm making assumptions and not shouldn't speak for everybody, but I think most of us agree that Riverside is a powerful tool and it works really well for the majority of us. I don't want to see this guy leave Riverside because a he's seems like he's very comfortable with it and BI know it's a really powerful tool. So we want him to at least first try to test everything he can before he walks away from Riverside because it it's going to be hard to find a tool like that if you're used to working with that tool.

12:36 Nick, did you have anything else you wanted to add or were the emojis flashing because you really wanted to make sure? We were. We were specifying RAM memory. Yeah, I actually did want to add. I put it in the chat for one of the things I wanted to say. Check how many Chrome tabs you have open as well. I was just playing with this the other day. If you hover your mouse over a Chrome tab, it'll tell you how much memory that one tab is using. And if you have a ton of tabs open, each tab could be 100 megabytes, 203 hundred. Riverside's probably using 5 to 800 just on its own. And if you have a bunch of really heavy working tabs, that could be slowing everything down for you as well. So I would totally make sure Riverside is the only tab that you have open when you're using it. But the other thing that I wanted to say, and this is on the budget side of things, it is you're kind of balancing right now of like cost versus usability, ease of use, convenience.

13:34 It's going to be really tough unless you're willing to spend the time to learn something like Davinci Resolve and like actually said, kind of learn more of that manual process. It's going to be hard to get something that's anywhere close to what Riverside does without paying money. That's kind of the balance you you face here with convenience versus. Cost. Yeah, Thank you for pointing both of those things out. The tabs thing, yes, I agree wholeheartedly. Your second point too, I think that's really important. You get what you pay for, as Dave Jackson likes to point out many times when talking about these tools and people getting frustrated with those situations when you're trying to go low budget or free, that's fine. If that's your situation and that sometimes comes at a cost, a workflow cost.

14:22 And Ralph wants to chime in. Let's go to Ralph. Go for it. Good morning, everybody. I'm going to trumpet what you just said and ABS one more thing, and that's my whole point, Mark, is, you know, what can you expect from free software versus paid software? And I don't mean to be smart, ALDI about that. If you're doing a hobby podcast, I get it, you don't want to spend a lot of money, but I think there's an expectations gap there. And I would just say personally, I use the script. And the reason that I like the script is you can actually port your Zoom calls right into that. So you can record right in the script. Excuse me, I'm mixing software that's ecam. I'm sorry. The reason I like the script is that you can both use it online and you can bring those files back locally as well. So you're not beholden to that bandwidth of the Internet. So I use actually use ecam to record. And then the way what I was going to say is you can actually add your Zoom meetings to ECAMM and do it all there. But my whole point, Mark, was the whole counterpoint of like, you get what you pay for.

15:17 I'm a trumpet with, Jackson says. But free is not always free when you look at your time investment. Agreed. Anyone else want to chime in or shall we move on to the next mailbag? Yes, Dr. I'm in the kitchen, but this is kind of an important thing for me. I am having my own issues with Riverside right now and it has to do with one of my own clients not in OK. I won't worry. What used to happen is that my client would e-mail me and say the interview is in Riverside. I said great, so I would go to my LastPass, I would click on Riverside, I would get into her account no problem.

16:00 But now because she had to change her password, now she's given me her password. But ideally I would still like to get in the way. I used to get in, so when I go to Riverside now it tells me to login. When I click on login, it goes directly to that black screen that says welcome and how will you be using Riverside today? So there's no link for customer service? There's no link for it to log out. I I found that page where I could log out. So I logged out, logged back in, shut down my computer came back up. I have cleared all my cookies, I've cleared my cache. I don't know what else to do, but it's not working and I can't.

16:45 Even if I were to use her password, I never land on that page with the login and password field that I can put it in. And I've tried to go to Riverside's Facebook page and message them. And I've also tried, you know, that front page with the guy's face in it up above. You can get customer service that way. And I've tried to put in, but that's a bot. So I've tried both ways and I'm not getting anywhere. Well, I'll try to find a way for you because I know there's a way. You can more or less through the website, send an e-mail to customer service and I'll try to find that way for you. And if I can't, or if it's not working still, I'll connect you with somebody at Riverside 'cause I have a few connections there and.

17:35 Yes, you do. Thank you. I appreciate. It no problem. Yeah, I just, yeah, that's just a bizarre one. It sounds like a really isolated issue with just one client because like you said, it's not happening say with some of the our ironic media clients. Yeah. Those clients give me, ideally a direct link, yeah. Go make some eggs and we'll come back to you because you have something you wanted to share with the group. So we'll do that. But but first, let's go. Oh, wait, let's go to our next mailbag question. All right, got it out here. And this one actually comes from the Buzz Sprout Facebook group, comes from someone named Catherine. Catherine said for podcasters who have guests, what's the most effective way you found for gathering and storing guest information like BIOS, headshots and links? I'm curious if there's a best practices workflow or specific software people are using.

18:36 So I'll throw this to the room. If you're regular, if you regularly have guests on your show, how are you handling guest intake right now? And let's also discuss how you research your guests, if at all. Like I think that's part of it, even though that's not specifically what she asked, I think that's relevant to this question. So really, again, if you regularly have guests on your show, how are you handling guest intake right now? And I wasn't looking at my monitor or my phone when I said it. So if you want to speak, go ahead, Ralph, we'll go to you first. Yeah, I don't do a lot of guest, but one of the great features of Pod Page is they actually have a really great guest intake form that you can send a link to the person and they can upload their bio, they can put their picture on there, they can Add all their social links. And when I was doing a lot more hosting of bringing Pete guest on, I found it to be really useful. And the other thing that I'm going to say, Mark, while we're talking about guesting, one of the best ways I think you can you collect that information is do a pre interview. I know I talked about that before, but I think that's the secret sauce to the whole thing is do that pre interview, not for the sake of, you know, all the things you're going to talk about during the during the interview, but to get to know the person, get their top information, learn how to say their last name.

19:57 That's always the good one. Because I don't know how many times I've been on shows lately, people are like, so how do you pronounce your name in the middle of the show? So those are a couple things that I would recommend. Love that. Thank you. Yeah, Pod Page does have some great features for that sort of thing. And I'm sharing a link both here on Clubhouse and in the show notes. And just Full disclosure, it is an affiliate link. So if you decide to click it and ultimately go with Pod Page, that just gives me a little a little kickback for referring you. It doesn't do anything, change anything with your price. It just is a thank you from Pod Page to me for referring you. And I am a user of Pod Page as well. So I'm not just pushing them on you to make some money. It's a genuine, it's a genuine push because I use it and love what they do there.

20:48 It makes life so much easier. And so same with my clients. A lot of my clients are using it as well. Ashley, I think you wanted to say something and then BC as well. So go for it, Ashley. I have two potential systems. If you're an Apple user, you can definitely use Apple Notes. What I would recommend is you can make a guest profile pages, you can make a folder and then within that folder you could gather all your guest information and you could even add voice memos. So for example, if you need to remember how to pronounce a guest name, you can make a voice memo of you correctly saying their name and listen to it back later. You can put their picture in there, etcetera. Now, if you don't have Apple Notes, the closest thing I could think of would either be Notion. Notion I think is a little bit more advanced for lack of a better word.

21:39 Or maybe another alternative could be a Google's Sheet spreadsheet. Oh yeah, love those suggestions and really like the idea of the using the Apple notepad for exactly what you said. It's pretty versatile and I like the idea of leaving yourself voice notes too. And you can do that all within that particular app. Great idea Ashley, go for it BC. So similarly to you, you got pod page. I'm also on personally on Pod and Match, which is another great platform for guests and hosts to connect. Another thing that I would mention, assuming that Catherine is sharing her show on socials and therefore this would really benefit her, and I told my clients this all the time, is if you have a links hub, link tree, beacons, all my links, whatever it is, those typically provide you the ability to create lead forms.

22:30 So I would say everywhere you're sharing your show on socials, make sure there's a CTA to if you want to be a, if you want to be a guest and you fit this parameter of the show, go to my link tree, fill out the form. That way when that comes into her inbox, she already has all that stuff, the name, the bio of the breakdown, what good topics are good for this person, And she just saves all that in her inbox. Pod match definitely helps you keep things organized between you and a guest. And it, yeah, yeah, you can find the guest bio, you can find their intake form, and it keeps it all organized accordingly. It's pretty nice. And yeah, if you're taking advantage of it, yeah, it's not just about connecting with guests, it's helping you manage your guests, too. I wanted the second Notion.

23:17 Just probably no surprise to most people in here, when I was doing the 95 podcast, Notion was like my entire podcast management system. Like I would organize all of my episodes. I would have an entire guest database set up that was linked to those episodes, and that was where I basically put all of the guest information, emails, links, anything that pertained questions that I was going to ask the guests. Like it all lived there and I could just easily search by episode, or I can search by guest name and then just have all the information that I needed on the guest right there. Personally, that's my favorite. Like Ashley said, it's probably a little bit more on the technical setup side. There are so many YouTube tutorials and things like that they can walk you through and it doesn't have to be anything super complex.

24:05 It can be a very simple, almost like a table, but a little bit more information gathering inside that table. Love that. Yeah, thank you Nick. And I'll go to Dr. Oh, actually Tide 1st. And but before I do Tide, I just wanted to share one way that I've been playing around with this, although clearly lately I haven't, we haven't had any. Well, I guess we've had a couple guests so far over the past couple months. But the way I like to do this sort of thing is with ChatGPT projects. So that's a little bit different than just a general conversation that you have with ChatGPT. You can actually set up a project and then what you can do is feed it information within the project.

24:48 You can create a conversation that is about your, let's say, next guest and you can give it all the information. You can have it do some research for you. You can have it organize it in a very specific way to your workflow. And what's cool about it is, is it also learns everything about what you're doing within that project, you know, develop some memory and it becomes more and more intuitive to your process, your podcast guesting processes from workflow to research and everything in between. It's pretty cool and pretty intuitive. And I would recommend trying that if that's if you're comfortable enough using AI at this point.

25:31 All right, Tide, I'm coming to you. Welcome to the stage. What did you want to add to all this? Well, I've been podcasting for three months now. It's really an exciting adventure. And when I joined Buzz Sprout, I guess someone got my contact information and they were from Pod Match and I had never heard of them before, but I decided to jump on their platform. It was $6 a month. So I pay $6 a month to basically be matched. It's almost like, I don't know, like a tating app, but for podcasters if know about it. I love it. And so I get matched with all these different individuals. But they recently just added their own CRM. So this was probably as of two weeks ago or so. And they have all of your guests, they have their profile BIOS, there are BIOS, they have a section where you can add information about them, important details like the name, pronunciation, like someone said.

26:21 And it's really nice for me because it's all in one place. And I just wanted to, if anybody didn't know about it, I just wanted to let people know that if you're not a super organized person like myself, it's nice just to have it all there. Pre populated under pod match. And it was a pretty reasonable price. Love that. Thank you, Tide. And my guess is you probably heard from Alex Sanfilippo. If if, yeah, if I we were a betting man, that's what I guess. And I know that Alex is also personally close friends with Buzz Sprouts CEO Tom. So yeah, there could be some synergy there. That could be what you what how that happened. But yeah, again, pod match is awesome. I'm sharing a link here on Clubhouse and in the show notes. It is also an affiliate link as well. And I am also a user of Pod Match, so again, not just pushing a product on you, this is something that I use as well. Thank you, Todd, for that.

27:14 And thank you for that. Yeah, sharing some of those details of how it works besides just matching you with a host or a guest. All right, DRI, know you wanted to chime in. Go for it. I am a Trello girl through and through, so that's where I keep the information. And also I am 100% on board with the pre interview. But before that free interview, I try and do a little research. Like I look them up on YouTube to see if they, you know, maybe they have such a thick accent that it can't be understood. Or maybe just because they write a book doesn't mean they have the ability to speak very clearly. So I make sure that they can put one word in front of the other in a cohesive manner, if you know what I mean. I usually check them out on YouTube. I also go to my regular podcast playing apps and put their name in to see if they've done any podcasts before and then if they have then we graduate to the pre interview. How do you organize all of that?

28:21 Because that is the kind of the main question that this person had. How do you what's your workflow look like? Oh, I loves Mitrello. I do. I loves Mitrello so hard. So yeah, everything, everything is on a guesting Trello board that I've created. And, you know, that's like, that's like a great Rolodex that you can put all your notes in and even stuff to call back. You know, some of them to stay in touch, especially if they're really good guests, you know, to stay in touch with them, get their birthday to, you know, any, any kind of thing that comes up in conversation that you can use as a touch point. Trello is is my best.

29:07 Friend Trello is a great suggestion for that organization that workflow specific to guests or really to all different workflows for that matter. All right, I'm going to go to Sid. Sid, what do you want to add to this? As most of you know that 90% of my podcast is interviews. And this is a very interesting conversation because I don't know if how many of you noticed Katie Brinkley's post last night where she's thinking about Facebook. She's thinking about giving up her show after 500 episodes because of her issues with guest and not showing up for recording, not sharing any information. I mean, for me, that's kind of tragic because I love her show, right?

29:48 But I, I try to be the easy button and not make my guest do a lot of work. I don't ask them to share anything. I say to them if you want some assets, we're happy to do that for you. We're going to share it. We're going to tag you it on Instagram and LinkedIn. If you feel like you want to share, please do. I don't ask them to do anything. I tell them what we're going to do. I don't ask them to fill out a form because I don't take random guest. So most of the people that are on my show with a few exceptions come to come to the show because I have sought them out. I've done my research, I've been following them or I'm connected to them or I got introduced to them and I know what they're doing and so I bring them up.

30:33 So they've been, in my opinion, they've been fully vetted. So there's no form to fill out. All that I ask is that we do a pre call together and they send me a headshot. And in the pre call I take a lot of notes. I have my Otter in there and I use that to, in order to help me create the run of show and come up with some ideas and frameworks and titles of things I want to talk about. And that's it. So the heavy lifting is on me, the host, which is where it should be. I think part of our problem is we try to put heavy lifting on the guests in order to help our show grow. It's not our guest responsibility to help our our show grow. It is our responsibility to grow our show. We have to take ownership of that. So I am the easy button for the guests. And I think if we look at how do we make it easy for the guests rather than all this stuff that we need them to do or want them to do, we might actually see a different outcome as it relates to how the guest supports us, how they show up and how what they do to promote the show.

31:27 I can, by the way, we use click UPS in Google Drive. Everything goes into Google Drive. It's organized really well. And we use click up as our management system in order to manage the process of getting a show ready to go. So I'm off my soapbox now. Thank you, Sid, I, I appreciate where you're coming from there. I think sometimes as podcast hosts, we might, we might come off a little annoying trying to get our guests to do the things right, share the episode, etcetera. And I, I appreciate you just taking the responsibility, taking the ownership yourself and saying, here's what we're going to do. We're going to promote you and we're going to promote your episode. And if you feel like doing the same, we'll send you stuff to do it. And also, I want to just call out and I'm not saying you don't do this, but I just want to call out. Besides tagging, more and more of these social media platforms are allowing collaborations.

32:16 YouTube, Instagram specifically where now it if they accept the collaboration offer the content appears on their profile it as if they posted it and all they have to do is click 1 button and say yes I accept, I I want this to appear on my profile page. It works really well and again, it's much less obnoxious annoying to have to keep asking somebody to do it. If they don't accept it, they don't accept it. I agree with you. It's our responsibility to promote our episodes, not our guests, as much as we'd like them to. I'm going to come to BC in just a second. I do want to share with you all real quick. I know I did this earlier this week, but I was a guest on Yvonne's podcast, her podcast Late Bloomer Living, and it came out earlier this week.

33:12 And I'm sharing this with you not because I want you to listen to my episode, but if we're connected, if you feel like we have some sort of relationship, I think you might find this interesting this episode. And by the way, Yvonne is a fantastic host. I think she just, she knows how to make a guest feel comfortable and ask great questions. So much so that there is even a part that you'll hear where I get a little bit emotional, as a matter of fact, a little bit emotional talking about this very community. So if you want to hear Mark get a little choked up as I talk in the third person, go check out episode 257. That's the one with me joining Yvonne.

33:52 I think you'll enjoy it. And I think, yeah, it'll be nice for you to get to know me a little bit more. So go check that out and let's support a fellow community member. Was that before or after we won the award for best educational? Yes, that was before that was. Yeah, that was you. Should go on now you'd be a blithering idiot. That'd be great. Yeah, I don't know, I think I'll still get more emotional about just talking about how wonderful this community is, but yeah, yeah. So go check that out. Thank you, Dr. All right, so BC you wanted to say something about this whole guest workflow process, is that what we're talking about right now? Yes, we are.

34:33 Go ahead. Yes, yes. And I 100% agree with both of you and Sid regarding we're the podcasters. We're the ones who chose to enter this incredibly sometimes complex world of storytelling and digital content development. That being said, and and this is a hill I I will die on is that I do still at the same time believe that there is an etiquette to being the guest to that even we should feel comfortable holding non podcasting guests too. The number of times I have, for instance, doing in person interviews have, you know, planned well ahead. I've taken care of all the things, made sure I've coordinated with the person, made sure that the schedules lined up and they got a podcasting space just to sit there in the booth an hour into my, you know, reservation time. Reached out to the guest who's again, has known for at least a couple weeks that we got this on. I've double checked they're good to go. They've told me they're good to go. And then I reached out to them after being some way into, let's say our time and they say, oh, I'll be there in the next 45 minutes.

35:43 What do you mean? This is been on the books for a while, this and you know, studio reservation time is money. What do you mean you'll be here in 45 minutes? We're we're going to be done here soon. So yes, we should assume to take on the creative lift as podcasters. That's our thing. But there's still an etiquette system that I think anyone who wants to be on a show should be prepared to meet. And it's not a super high bar, you know, it's just coordinate. Make sure you still have the time, get there on time and engage as much as you can as the guest to make sure that the podcaster who's going to produce this whole thing has something, you know, actionable, has something valuable to provide to the audience that they're going to try to expose you to as well.

36:27 Great point. And I'm going to keep it moving. So please forgive me for not responding in more detail because I do want to try to get to some wins from the week as well. But we also, Dr. had a question. So what we're going to do is Dr., I'm just going to allow you to ask the question and we'll keep it to like one or two responses so that we have a little bit of time to share wins from this past week. This happens to be about the same client that I was talking about with the Riverside thing. She is on Lipson now Lipson in the past six months or so has 1 by 1 eliminated or they walked out on their own.

37:08 Some of their personnel that some of us know personally and. And long time personnel. Long time personnel and high profile personnel, you know, you have to take a look at the situation and say what is happening. I don't feel good about where Lipson is going or where I perceive it to be going and the general public perceives it to be going. So I would love to change her to probably captivate, but there's consequences with that. And I don't know how do I get ahead of the situation?

37:49 Or do I just wait until we get that dreaded e-mail saying that we regret to inform you with heavy heart we are closing our doors? You know what I'm saying? I hear you. Dave asks consequences and I think what Dr. might be referring to, and by the way, Dave is in the chat. That's why that's what I'm calling out here. He's questioning consequences and one of those consequences being that sometimes transferring from one podcasting host platform to another can be challenging. One of the things that often happens that people can't stand is you generally then lose all your stats. You're kind of starting over, which you can absolutely go into Libsyn right now and download all of those stats so that you have that history that you're basically starting over, but you still have that data.

38:39 So it's not like all is lost, but a lot of people get annoyed with that. It's kind of interesting to me that there are hurdles like that. Still to this day, it feels like it should be a lot easier to just go from one hosting platform to the next, but that's just not the case. So I get the the hesitation that you have Dr. Ultimately, at some point, if Lipson, look, we have no idea if Lipson's going to go. Who knows, they could just be doing a complete overhaul of their business and starting over and, you know, wanted something fresh. We, we have no idea what's going on there, but a lot of people are feeling the same as Dr. Like it's a matter of time before they go. Again, all speculation.

39:21 So I want to just be clear about that. But if they were to go, then you're going to be in that situation and have to scramble anyway. It's really more of how much of A gambling person are you? Are you, do you want to just roll the dice and wait and see? Or I don't know, I think a lot of people might just feel like they want to just get ahead of it and just do the switch now where you have theoretically much bigger window between now and if and when Lipson goes away. Lipson, by the way, probably one of the very first podcast hosting platforms. I was using them 20 years ago when I started podcasting. So I want to bring up something that Matthew, who is not with us today, he put in our producers chat, one of our chats and he said this is relevant.

40:10 For the past few months, Lipson has been unable. To correctly offer a three O 1 redirects for all customers, meaning that it's hard to switch away from the podcast host. Pod News has learned that the issue, which started in October last year, is being fixed in messages from support. Lipson has been blaming the other companies for this issue. Now the behavior that that, a company spokesperson tells Pod News quote, UN quote doesn't meet our bar for customer support. Interesting. And that's just like one more log on the fire as to why my client and I should switch over. Ralph, I see you commenting in the chat. I wanted to give you a minute to share it here and then we're going to move into wins from the week, so go for it. Yeah, I want to say two things.

41:03 Number one, from a business perspective, I don't think Libsyn just going to all of a sudden one day say, oh, we're not doing hosting anymore. I think what would probably happen is they're going to sell that off or someone's going to acquire it. But bigger question than that. And I actually was on Libsyn for the longest time and I'm not promoting Captivate, but I switched to Captivate and it really had to do with the features. So I think the better question to ask is which hosting platform best serves the needs of your show. I do 4 shows. So for me Captivate was great because you don't pay per show. You put as many shows on there as you want. You pay per the number of downloads and I'm nowhere near there, 30,000 download per month number. But really ask yourself what are the functionalities that you need because that is really the question you want to ask. So, Dr. when you're looking at your customers, look at the functionality of some of the other hosting platforms and see what that serve their needs better. Yeah, great advice.

41:58 And I know I said last word, but I did see a couple people want to quickly chime in, including Dominic, who's on stage. Welcome back, Dominic. What did you want to add? I don't know if Lipson is going away, maybe they will sell off part of business. Seem like it's just a restructuring to me. Like I put it in the comments. Shout out to Elsie Escobar who is no longer with the company who was fantastic with Lipson for a long time. But if I were to switch. I know a few of my friends have mentioned rss.com as a platform that you can probably land on. And so I've been kind of looking into that and I've also. Heard great things. About Captivate. So that's all I want that you haven't. Yeah, thanks for bringing that up, rss.com. I've gotten to know Greg Wasserman, who works with RSS.

42:40 Actually, he was the speaker right before I spoke at Pod Fest as well. But yeah, they are a good company. They really care about podcasters. They they really make an effort to serve podcasters and help them not just as a platform, but really as a resource to help podcasters grow. So yeah, I would, I would look at something like rss.com as well. And Ashley, I'm giving you the final word. Go for it. Thank you. I would suggest waiting but having a solid escape plan of course. It sounds like this is a little bit of a mix of of political and technical. We're not 100% sure why these folks are no longer with Lipson. And you also mentioned the redirect feature. I would in that escape plan do what Ralph suggested. That sounds pretty solid.

43:32 But I would also sometimes the porting doesn't go so Smith. So I'd be really sure to have everything backed up. And that means, you know, the recordings of the files, the show notes, everything that has to do with the show. And even if there's a way, find a way to put the stats on file and so whether that's in a spreadsheet screenshot, something like that. Thank you, Ashley and I got to say, Ashley, thank you for all the insight today. It's nice to hear more of you sharing here in the mornings. Usually Ashley is behind the scenes taking notes for the edit for the podcast and busy doing the behind the scenes stuff. So good to have all your contributions today, Ashley, Thank you. And thank you all for answering all of these mailbag questions this morning.

44:23 It's time for wins from the week, so let's start celebrating. This is your time to shine. Doesn't matter if you're thinking your win is too small, too big. We want to hear what you're up to and what you're celebrating this week. Every win deserves a moment to celebrate. And with that, we're going to check in first actually with our guest who's on the stage. Let's go to Meg first. Good morning, Meg. Good morning, and I want to consider this a big win because I hired Tide, also known as Nikki, for some work. And she's done some ghostwriting for me in the past and now she's going to be helping me with some other things, which I won't go into the details, but it has to do with podcasting. And I'm just super excited about it because I always say there's a few, No, no disrespect to anyone, but I always say there's a few diamonds in the Ralph on Clubhouse. And I definitely think she's one of them. And I would highly recommend her to anyone. And I know, you know, sometimes people really have to do your due diligence when working with some people on Clubhouse. And I just feel like it's a huge win for myself and my company. Harmony with food.

45:41 That's awesome. Congratulations. And one more time. What's her name? Tide tutoring. Nikki Fernandez. Oh, that's awesome. Well, that's cool. That's a nice little win for sure. And I don't mean it figuratively when I say little. That's awesome. Very cool that here are two community members collaborating, connecting and making things happen. Very cool. Thank you for sharing that, Meg. Appreciate it. And I'm going to go to Janae. Janae, good morning to you. Please share a win from your week. I've been working on something in the Pat in the back and I've, I've been messaging you back and forth. So I got to showcase the app just a little bit for like 2 minutes to Pat Flynn and I got some good feedback.

46:23 So I'm working on some demo videos for it to see, hey, this is what it does. This is a problem that is solving. I'm just so excited to like make a one stop shop for what I was looking for, for my own podcast. Thanks. Yeah. And Janae, very quickly you want to just give us like a one or two sentence explanation of what you're building. I'm calling it the podcasters operating system. It helps manage your podcast from episodes, guests, calendar, e-mail marketing, you name it. Anything that goes with your podcast, the things that you need to do with your podcast, it goes inside of here. So and it's really helping my team to keep everything in place because I would like, hey, I have this spreadsheet. Please keep a note of all the things that we've already published.

47:16 Keep a note of all the things that are going out, you know, inform the guests. And we're using like 5 different tools and it was becoming very, very hard because we're all working and so many different paces. So I built the tool to solve those problems for me. Awesome. Congratulations Janae. I know how excited you are, and I appreciate you sharing this with me along the way. This wasn't the first time I've heard about this clearly, and I'm really excited for you. So cool. Janae and I geek out over Pat Flynn every so often, so he texted me yesterday. Hey, guess what? I just showed this to Pat Flynn. I, I'm so excited for you, Janae. Congratulations. And I'm going to keep it moving.

47:57 Billy, good morning. Please share a win with us. One quick win was I called Sid and he answered the phone. Actually, that's more of a miracle. I guess. Wow. Yeah, clearly, yeah. Sure, I always. Answered the phone. That is okay, I'm not gonna argue on here, but that's a lie anyway, a podcasting win. So I've been on the guest side of podcasting for the last year and so I hit my goal of being on the amount of podcasts I wanted to last year and on pace to do it again this year. So that's kind of fun and different. The only other thing in business are in content. I'm trying to do strategy January February as my business is normally. My business normally slows down and so far I'm having a lot of success and already doubled the amount of deals I normally do. So that's going to be a busy year. Awesome.

48:46 And Billy, we had recorded an interview toward the end of last year I believe, or maybe even longer than that. And it never came out because at the time you ended up thinking you were going to be shifting gears, I think at some point. So it started to become a little outdated. But I would love to do maybe a one-on-one interview with you at some point to get an update on what you're doing and show people different ways that they can actually make money as content creator. So I'll reach out to you privately to discuss that. Brian is also on stage. Welcome back to the stage. Brian. Do you want to share a win with us? My win this week is that I am getting back into going to in person events for the first time in about two months.

49:37 I had to step away from doing them. For those that don't know, my father died last month and I had to step away from doing events while he was sick and then the holidays came so there was nothing there. And then my mom had an episode of being sick. Now I'm back into the swing of things and I'm happy to be doing that. So that's my win this week. Thank you so much. Brian, congratulations on getting back up on the horse, as they say. And if you haven't noticed in the chat, you're getting a lot of love and we're all sending you our love and condolences.

50:18 I personally can't even imagine what that's like. I'm fortunate enough that I still have both my parents right now. And I'm sure that was challenging. And we're thinking about you. I've been following along as you've been sharing a bit on social media and thinking a lot about you. So thank you for coming here today. Congratulations for pushing forward now and getting back into some of the things I know you love to do. I know you love going to those networking events. So it's great to see you back at it again. And we're all thinking about you, Brian. Thank you for sharing and being open and honest with us here on stage this morning. OK, I also want to hear from the moderators and we're short on time, so here's what we're going to do. We're going to do our little rapid fire and I'm going to actually go backwards.

51:03 So if you are on Clubhouse, pull down your screen to refresh. And let's start with Dominic, who we haven't really gotten a chance to talk too much over the past. I don't know how it probably at least few weeks since Dominic has joined us, maybe a month or two. Dominic, good morning. I have a feeling I know the winds you would like to share and looking forward to hearing it. So go for it. Floor is yours. My wins for the week is that Ambi nominations were announced this week and we were fortunate to get 2 Emmy nominations, 1 for Best DIY. For black as. America and the other one for best Wellness and relationship podcast for mental health rewritten. And with those nominations, I'm still doing the research and my person who does marketing for us as doing the research. I may have made ambi history In doing that, I may have become the first independent podcaster with two different shows to get Emmy nominations.

52:00 Especially with narrative shows. We're looking to that to see before I can make that claim. But either way, it's a rare. Feat. It's extremely rare feat. Congratulations, Dominic. That is awesome. No surprise, no surprise that you were nominated, No surprise that you at the very least have a a rare situation, probably the first. And yeah, you'll have to come back and let us know if that is a first time thing. Very cool. Dominic always seems to be making lots of noise in this space. And we're really proud of you, Dominic. And I know you're proud of yourself as well. And also check out some of Dominic Lawson's social media stuff because he's he's doing way more than podcasting these days. So go check him out.

52:46 All right, I said this was rapid fire, but I had to respond to that. That is awesome news, Dominic. Thank you. And Sid, I'm going to hand the baton to you and we can just pass it down the row and wrap up with me. Go ahead. So I have two wins. First one is my marketing coordinator started on Monday. And she's already fantastic. I already know that it was a perfect decision, perfect person, and she's putting up with all my shenanigans and my craziness. So I'm really, really grateful for that. The second one I thought about last night is I was laying in bed and you know, the last couple, I mean, all you guys know, building a business is hard. In the last couple of years haven't been the easiest. They haven't been the worst either by any means. But I just felt like this week, my energy level and my excitement level around what I'm doing is back to how it felt when I started my business in 2017. And it just feels good.

53:43 It feels different and I wake up more excited. I have a lot more energy throughout the day. And it just, it feels good to be back in this place again, doing things that I love and really leaning into this next chapter of my life and doing the things that bring me joy. So that's really a a big one for me. Dr. Are you ready? Yesterday I had a little one-on-one meeting from some of the networking I've been doing, and he had this beautiful background in the back. And I said, oh, the oh, that's gorgeous, Where whereabouts are you? He said, well, I'm in the LA hills. And as he kept talking, he said that he was from Northern California. And I said whereabouts. And he said a small town called San Mateo. I said I'm from San Mateo.

54:26 He says, you're kidding. I said, no, I went to Aragon High School. He says, I went to Aragon High School. So it's just such a small world. Sometimes you just have to be reminded when these little things come up. And you know, it was just such, so good to connect on that level and BC Are you ready? Win for me is that I am just a couple of weeks away from finishing my Masters of Science program, so come February, your board will be a Master of Science in Digital Marketing. So excited. And then I have been going strong with my other show, kicked off the week of Thanksgiving, have not missed a single morning already at 32 episodes, and I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes. I got two big wins. Big win number one was on Wednesday night. I got to be live on the new media show with Rob Greenlee, which was a huge achievement for me. I got an hour and a half with him. That was fantastic and even better than that yesterday I got to do a recording for Jonathan's show which will be coming out soon as well.

55:20 So those are two big wins for me. Go ahead, Ashley. Was before Ashley goes Jonathan Howard's show. Yes, Jonathan Howard. I recorded the show with him yesterday. It's not quite the normal story lab, so I'll just leave that out there. It's going to be a good one though. Awesome. OK, Thank you. Go for it, Ashley. My Wins for the week is recognizing that it has just been a fabulous week of productions. Every day this week on PMC, we've had great shows and I just feel so blessed to be able to work on them. And also, right after I finish PMC, every day I get in the car and I go work on another podcast called My Happy Ass Life, where I show up and I mic people up. I move lights and mic stands around, fix people's hair, tell them to take off noisy jewelry, and we've made some really good shows this week.

56:07 So my win is just, you know, realizing what a blessing and privilege it is to do this for my living. What a way to wrap up the wins. Thank you, Ashley, appreciate that and thank you all for sharing your wins. Congratulations to everybody. For me, I will. I had a couple, but I'm just going to go with one for now. My win is is that both BC and Ralph have accepted my offer to join me on camera this coming Wednesday for our News and comments segment. I some of you may remember I put out the call that if anybody wants to join me on camera in Riverside, they are more than welcome. And both Ralph and BC jumped at it and I figured, well that that makes perfect sense. Let's have them on Wednesdays because they both now have their own segments that we do in on Wednesdays for news and comments.

56:56 So will all three of us be on camera live and then also available on YouTube later? So that's a big win for me. It'll be nice to have some company on the Riverside side. Thank you both for accepting that invite and looking forward to that. So stay tuned. Next week, programming note for everybody Monday is going to be up in the air. I will post in the Facebook group and on social media, but Monday's up in the air because as many of you know, there is a gigantic winter storm coming through and I haven't heard one meteorologist say differently. They're all expecting pretty big power outages due to a lot of ice, and that is especially true here in the Western North Carolina area. So I am hoping for the best, but we will see if we will even have power on Monday.

57:52 So that one is up in the air. Normally we will be here every Monday through Friday, 7:00 AM Eastern, live on Clubhouse and YouTube, LinkedIn, Facebook, etcetera, and of course available as a podcast just a couple hours later. So until Monday, maybe make it a great weekend. Everybody stay safe.