478. Why Your Podcast Script Sounds Stiff (and How to Fix It)

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Good morning podcasting.
Morning Chat.

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Today is Friday, March 20th,
2026.

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And today, why your podcast
script sounds stiff and it's not

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you.
How to write for real

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conversation and loosen up your
delivery.

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Good morning again podcasting

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morning chat.
Thanks so much for being here.

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I am your host Mark Ronick and
currently on stage with me we

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have my Co hosts Dr. Faye,
Ralphie Step, BC Babbles, Sid

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Meadows, Alex Baelish and also
Tide AKA Nikki from the audience

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has joined us again on stage.
Today is a Friday so yes we will

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get into our wins from this past
week.

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We like to celebrate each
other's wins and it's important

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to me to recognize those wins so
we will do that in a moment.

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Before we do, I have a couple of
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I think I needed the break, but
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Now also the last thing I want
to share with you before we dive

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into script reading discussions,
I wanted to preview Monday

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because Monday we are taking the
week off of our Obsession Worthy

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podcast series.
We'll be doing that again March

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30th.
It will return, but next week

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we're going to bring in a new
semi recurring series that will

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probably also alternate on
Mondays, Money Mondays.

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And Ralph is going to help us
with Money Mondays.

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Ralph, you want to tell us a
little bit about what we're

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going to do this Monday?
Yeah, on Monday we're going to

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talk about the one money mistake
that I've found working with

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creators that will absolutely
destroy your business.

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So don't forget to tune in on
Monday.

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Awesome.
We will do that.

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And I'm sure we'll end up
sharing other things, other

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reasons why you can have that
struggle there, if not just this

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one.
I'm sure we have many more we

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could probably list.
But looking forward to hearing

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what your number one money
mistake is, Ralph.

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Yeah.
And listen, if you are new

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podcaster or new to content
creation or just haven't dabbled

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in actually making it a
legitimate business, I think

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that this will be really
valuable to you.

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And of course, if you are
already monetizing your content,

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I think that this will also be
important to you too 'cause you

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may not know what these mistakes
are.

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So come join us this Monday,
7:00 AM Eastern.

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I'll be there as well, of
course.

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And Ralph will help lead the
charge because he is our money

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guy.
OK, let's get into the mailbag.

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Technically this I found
actually from the Riverside

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Facebook group coming from Shane
W.

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He said let's talk teleprompter
tips.

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I've only ever produced
interviews on my podcast and now

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I need to start mixing things up
with 10 minutes solo episodes.

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What advice do you have for a
podcaster who would like to go

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scripted solo and use the
teleprompter function?

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We can get into some of the
teleprompter stuff, but I think

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where I really would like to go
with this is really talking

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about if you're going to work
from a script, whether it's a

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teleprompter or something else,
I think that there are proper

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techniques to doing that.
And we happen to have had a

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story for the news on Wednesday
that we didn't get to, and we

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were going to have Ralph share
that story on Wednesday.

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So I think Ralph, the best bet
would be let's let's go to you

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and get into that story and then
we'll get into the discussion.

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Go ahead.
Yeah, very good.

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I want to bring this quick
story.

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I think it's going to hit a
nerve for a lot of us.

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I know when I read this, it
really hit a nerve for me.

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If you've ever listened back to
your own podcast and thought,

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why do I sound like I'm reading
this is for you now, This was a

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piece published by DW Academy.
And the core idea, this was

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simple.
Most podcast scripts sound stiff

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because they're written for the
page, not for the ear.

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I want to say that again,
because it's really important

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that we all understand that
you're not struggling because

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you're a bad speaker.
You're struggling because you're

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writing like a writer, not a
speaker.

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And those two are very different
skills.

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Here's what they pointed out in
the article, and I see this all

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the time, and I'm ointing this
at me because I've dealt with

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this very situation myself.
When we write for the page, we

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have longer sentences, our
language is usually more formal,

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and the structure is more rigid.
But all of us will relate to the

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fact that when we speak
naturally, we use shorter

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thoughts, we repeat ourselves,
we pause and we emphasize.

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But more importantly than any of
those things, we sound human.

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So, you know, many of us think
that when we start to monetize

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and we start to get more
interested in this, we think,

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well, I need to sound more
professional.

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I found myself in this very
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So what do we do?
We tighten up, we script even

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harder.
We, we Polish the life out of it

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is what the article said.
And I thought that was great.

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And that's the moment that we
become less engaging.

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So Mark, we can open it up to
questions, but I have some

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ideas, some practical fixes.
But has anyone else felt the

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same tension?
Speaking for myself, this has

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been a struggle for me because I
really, I use a prompter like

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Mark talked about.
And I really wanted to script

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everything out.
And what I found is when I

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stopped doing that, I connected
more with my audience.

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Now I've hired a speaking coach
like I've shared on the show,

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and that's really helped a lot.
But just the idea of the pauses.

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But anyway, I want to open up
the floor to other people who

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had comments and I come back
with some ideas that I came up

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with how to overcome this.
Awesome.

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Yeah, I want to.
I have several ideas here, and I

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see several people want to chime
in as well, so I will bite my

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tongue for the moment.
Actually, you know what?

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Let me share one and then I'm
going to go to Alex, BC and Dr.

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in that order.
One thing that I have taught

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myself is this idea of knowing
what I mean, not just what's on

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the page, right?
So if I know the point I'm

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trying to make, I'm much less
likely to sound like I'm just

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reading words, right?
So yeah, I'll stop there for

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now.
But I think it's really

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important to remember that you
really have to understand what

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it is you're trying to
communicate and not just

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regurgitate what you're reading
on the screen or on a piece of

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paper.
All right, Alex, I'm coming to

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you.
Good morning.

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Hey, how you doing?
That was kind of what I was

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going to say, but at the end of
the day, read what you've

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written over and over again.
I think a lot of times people

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and especially we've gotten very
lazy with ChatGPT.

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Oh, I'm just going to put it in
there and then I'm just going to

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read what it says.
Well, good speakers know how to

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pivot and good speakers know
like I love the outline or just

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bullet points and what I've
done.

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I've done this for years in
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I might have a script, I'm going
to read it, read it, read it

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until it I've exhausted it.
But then that first reading of

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what I'm doing and what I'm
actually saying are probably 2

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totally different things.
Because I've added, like Ralph

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said, you know, you add those
pregnant pauses, you add the

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different words, you put your
personality into it and that's

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where it really gets fun.
And I really do believe that

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works.
And there is a lot to be said.

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When you do stumble, take that
that pause.

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Yep.
Remember, and I, I say this

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with, with the instructors that
I teach for my, my business,

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they don't know what you're
going to say, right?

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So they don't know what you're
going to say if you miss

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something.
It's not a big mess.

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So I, I mean, those are a couple
of things.

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I know other people have other
things, so I'll let them go.

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No, thank you.
I appreciate those points, Alex.

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Yeah, I think the key for me is
reading it out loud before I

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record.
Now I think most of you know,

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for the most part I don't script
a lot on this show.

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And where I always script is
that intro in the beginning with

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the music right now, most of
that I know by heart because I

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say most of it all the time,
every day, five days a week,

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right?
But the, the meat of it, the

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what's to come on this episode
that I always have scripted

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because I'm working on the
timing and the delivery of what

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I'm saying.
I'm doing it with the music, OK.

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And I've talked about this
before.

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I like to time it so that I,
what it's called in the

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industry, hit the posts, right?
That's where in the song you

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might hear a little extra drum
beat, right?

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I'm sorry, I'm not a musician,
so I don't know like the

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terminology of that.
But you know, you'll hear a

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little drum beat or you'll hear
those vocals early on in the

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intro where it's where they go,
right?

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I pause at that point.
And so I really work on the

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timing all of this to stay.
I read my scripts out loud

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before I hit record.
So if I'm stumbling over a

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sentence while I'm reading it,
that usually is a sign that it

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needs to be rewritten or that I
haven't practiced yet.

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Hey.
Mark, I do want to say one thing

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about this and then I know you
guys want to see other people.

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Scripting does not need need to
be stiff and that you just made

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a great point there.
As a podcaster, you want to

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create the right moment and you
want to set it up the right way.

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So 1, you have the best clips as
well as you get the best

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answers.
And that all comes back to

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scripting and timing.
And I think that that is

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something that people just
underrate a lot because the I'll

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figure it out method.
So what Ralph said in the

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beginning, a lot of times just
doesn't work well if you're not

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scripted.
And, and we could go on about

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what scripting means, but I'm
not saying word for word cause

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I've been on podcasts where it's
word for word.

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You have to say what you you
wrote down.

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And that's a pain in the butt,
too.

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I agree.
There's a lot between New York

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and California.
There's a lot in between, so to

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speak.
Yeah, and you know, for me,

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reading it out loud a few times
before I actually press record

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also builds that muscle memory,
which helps prevent those

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stumbles and mistakes, right?
Because if I'm just saying here,

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ChatGPT, here's what my show is
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And again, reading it out loud,
I really want to emphasize that

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point because reading it in your
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those neuro pathways.
It's not building that muscle

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memory though the same way,
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It makes a huge difference.
OK, BC you're next.

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Good morning.
What's up?

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Yeah, I agree with everyone so

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far with Alex and Ralph talking
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you're talking about, it can
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don't have that and especially
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days in broadcast radio.
For those who are not from the

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industry, you know, if you're
doing a spot on air, a

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commercial spot, you're probably
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written by somebody who sold the
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don't right for you.
So a lot of times what you get

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to do as the on air talent is
you get to rewrite the scripture

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provided to fit your stylistic
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when you do deliver that spot on
air, it sounds natural to who

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you are and you deliver it.
You hit the main points and it's

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a good selling point.
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would we script things out and
if an in an instance where we

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don't take the chance to rewrite
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sometimes happens is that when
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formal stylistic sentences, we
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single sentence does not have to
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into thinking, oh, I've got to

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try to take one breath, deliver
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performative attempt at
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of monotone or robotic sound.
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just because something's written
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apply our own pacing to it, our
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own swell, its own cadence so
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down again on on familiarity
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If you don't read it beforehand,
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monotone because you got no idea
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you what you were asking for,
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you understand how that story is
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flow.
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you're asking yourself to kind
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product.
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unless you're in a live
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pause in the middle of your
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section, practice each section
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microphone.
You don't have to run all the

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way through and recording
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you or a team will take care of
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practice moments.
Also, I'll add it from for

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myself personally, I also deal
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I'm not sure if I've mentioned
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I deal with a speech issue
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related to stuttering.
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of getting caught on the
beginning of a word, my mouth

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will leave out or replace sounds
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belong.
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English phrases can be difficult
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because I will just confuse or
try to run through what I'm

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trying to say and my
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just fly out the window.
So love the topic though.

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So far, that's my Ted talk.
BC thank you.

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Yeah, I can tell you love the
topic.

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Yeah, thank you for all of those
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I was taking notes as quickly as
I could because there were

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things you said that I wanted to
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The thing about inflections, I
think that is so key, right as

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especially when we're talking
about practicing, because again,

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if you're reading it just in
your head for practice, you may

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not be thinking about the way
that it's actually coming out of

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your mouth.
And I know that when I don't

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practice and then I do read from
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from the script, right?
Like it, there is an obvious

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difference because where I would
normally put the inflections on

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certain words, I, I forget to do
that because I'm just reading

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word for word, word for word,
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So I appreciate you sharing
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And then I also appreciate you
sharing the idea of recording

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while you're practicing.
And even if it's not an

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intentional practice, but you,
let's say you're reading from

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your script, you stumble, you
fall a couple of times and

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you're, and then you say, oh,
forget it.

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You hit stop.
You start over, hit record

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again.
I know that this might seem

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obvious that you can just keep
recording all the way through,

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but the reality is it's not
obvious to a lot of people.

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I had a call with a client
that's launching a podcast

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earlier this week.
It's actually 2, two people.

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And that was one of the things
that I, I reminded them, I said

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to them, you know, listen, don't
worry because we did a practice

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run together and I said, don't
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If you mess up, just stop for a
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You could maybe acknowledge, Oh,
we're, let's edit that out,

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right?
Because I'm do, my company's

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doing the editing for them.
So it it could be a queue for

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them to tell the editor, but
then I just say go back a couple

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of sentences and and then just
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And I could see the light bulbs
and they explained the light

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bulbs are going off for them.
Like, oh, yeah, I can do that.

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Oh, that's right.
OK, cool.

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You know, so it's important to
call out some of these things

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because what we might think is
obvious isn't so obvious.

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All right, I know we still have
Dr. and BC wants to chime back

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in.
Ralph wants to chime in, but I

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saw and Tide wants to chime in
as well.

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I'm going to go to Yeah.
And Sid, that's exactly who I

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was going to next.
I'm coming to you, Sid, and then

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I will figure out the rest of
the order.

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Go ahead.
Good morning.

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Thanks, Mark.
Good morning, everybody.

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The only thing that I'll add to
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episodes where I do use the
script is I print it and I read

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it from the printed paper.
I have a red pen and I am

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circling and underlining things
of how I want to like change

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things or I want to make a space
and I'll put a note like space

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and then I go into my computer
and I don't rewrite it, but I

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reorganize it.
So to the point earlier about

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long run on sentences, the way
that we write, structured

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sentences, the way that we
write, I might break it up and

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put it on three or four
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And that's telling me as I am
having the script in front of me

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that I'm pausing, I'm
emphasizing I might put

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something in parentheses that I
want to add Lib to there and not

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script if it's a topic that I'm
really comfortable with.

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So I go and take the script and
edit the script so it still

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doesn't look like an article or
a blog.

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And that's my cue when I am.
Recording to make those

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intentional pauses to change it
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So that that helps me a lot to
mark it up and then to change

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it.
Yeah, I think thank you, Sid.

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I think that goes back again to
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I was talking about earlier when
you're engaging with your

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script.
And I love what you're saying,

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you know, creating that physical
form and then going in and

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writing notes and crossing
things out and circling things.

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It's helping your brain get to
know the script so that it does

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sound more natural when it's
coming out of your mouth.

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And one of the things that'll
help you sound more natural is

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taking out the words that you
don't normally say, but you

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would write.
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'Cause there there are words you
will write that you won't

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necessarily say, so be sure you
take those out and change it

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into a word that you would say.
Oh, yeah, I'm with you there.

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All right, DRI Know you've been
waiting so patiently.

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Go for it.
OK, so this is one of those

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skills that podcasters really
need to add to their list.

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And I encourage everyone, if you
do not have the ability to read

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off of a page and sound as
though it's not on the page,

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that it's coming from your
heart, that it's coming from

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your head, that it's impromptu.
If you do not have that ability,

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then please seek out a coach or
seek out some local acting

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lessons.
Number one, you're going to have

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a blast when you go to acting
lessons.

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And #2 it will bring out in you
some stuff that you never

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thought you had.
So that's, that's my #1 tip.

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I mean, I went through when I
was a kid, I did a ton of

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musical theater.
I was involved in a in a acting

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Conservatory when I was a kid
that's very prominent in the San

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Francisco Bay Area ACT.
So yeah, if you don't have that

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ability, then get a coach or
better yet, go to acting

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classes.
Yeah, I'm with you there.

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And look, I am not technically,
by trade, a speech coach, but I

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do this all the time with
podcasters.

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And I hope you can hear my
passion about this and my

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knowledge about this stuff.
I'm happy to work with anybody

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if that is something of interest
to them.

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And there are some people that
have it in them already without

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the coaching, without the acting
classes.

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There are those people who have
that ability, but you just have

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to be honest with yourself.
And if you don't have that

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ability then please speak out
some help.

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And it's one that anyone can
learn.

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I agree with you that it's more
natural for some people.

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I feel like for me it's it was
just a more natural thing.

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And I've been doing this for 20
years, right.

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So like I, I've gotten
comfortable doing this.

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But yeah, I, I great points DRI
appreciate you chiming in there.

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By the way, I just want to say
hello to our live audience on

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clubhouse.
We've Hi Greg, Dave, Austin,

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Tim, Chris, Mike, John,
Christina, Jen, Roy Field and

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Anne.
Thank you all for being here

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this morning.
Great to have you in the room on

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a Friday.
And remember this is just a

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reminder later in the show, we
are sharing our wins from this

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past week.
So if you have some wins, which

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I think everybody must have at
least one come bring it later in

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the show.
So, and if you don't start

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thinking about it right, Alex,
do you have something real

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quick?
Because then I want to go to

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Nikki.
Yeah, I do.

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I think one of the other things
you might want to dovetail off

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of what Dr. said, think about
like organizations like

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Toastmasters you can do online
versus in person and you might

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get some more listeners.
Yeah, I'm with you there.

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And actually thank you for
bringing that up because I was

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really challenged, You know,
when we talk about Toastmasters,

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right, Toastmasters is helping
you with your public speaking

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abilities and skills.
And I was really challenged.

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If you don't remember to figure
out how I was going to prepare

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without a script for my first
solo presentation at Podfest

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earlier this year.
And I found this is what and I,

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yes, I had somebody who I could
talk to.

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I had a coach Sean, who is
Simona's better half or a

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significant other is probably
better.

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She, I think she's probably the
better half anyway, Sean, he

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gave me overall guidance.
But as far as like the nitty

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gritty, that was all on me.
And what I found worked best was

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that I dumped out all of my
ideas to ChatGPT, all of my

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intentions, all of my goals.
And then I had it actually write

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a script for me, even though I
knew I was not going to use that

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script, but it was something
that I could first dig my teeth

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into, right?
I could, I read it a bunch of

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times.
I read it out loud several

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times.
I was again, creating that

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muscle memory.
And by the way, this all applies

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to a way you could prepare for
your podcast.

448
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,560
And then what I did was I
handwrote an outline.

449
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,640
And really the outline was more
of like a mind map.

450
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,440
I'm not going to sit and explain
the mind map right now.

451
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,840
Go ahead and Google it or ask
your favorite AI to tell you

452
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,360
more about it.
But what I did was I did it in

453
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:38,240
sections.
I wrote an act one all on one

454
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,240
page with my mind map.
And then I practiced it a lot.

455
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,040
I put the paper on like my
kitchen counter and walked

456
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,320
around my kitchen as if it were
a stage.

457
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,880
And every once in a while I
would just go back and peek at

458
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,200
my mind map to help me remember.
But I did that several times.

459
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,320
And then once I felt like I knew
it fairly well, I didn't perfect

460
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,120
it, but once I just felt like,
yeah, those neuro pathways were

461
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,960
being formed.
Then I went and went back and

462
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,560
wrote Act 2.
And then I practiced Act 2.

463
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,760
And then again, once I got
comfortable with it, then I

464
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,280
started practicing both acts
together.

465
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,320
And then I do the same for Act 3
and so on.

466
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,560
That helps a lot.
And yes, it's it takes some time

467
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,520
and it takes some work, but it
sounds, in my opinion, so much

468
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,800
better than just sitting there
and reading a script.

469
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,480
These days.
People are recognizing it.

470
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,160
They are noticing it more than
ever, especially because I think

471
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,040
we're so sensitive to AI that
we're really listening to hear

472
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,600
that human element.
Chris, welcome to the stage.

473
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,000
What did you want to add?
Hey, Mark, thanks.

474
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,800
I, I've got to say, Toastmasters
is a good organization.

475
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,120
You, you, you've got to find a
good club though, a club that

476
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,840
meets every week and, and I, and
I definitely in person also,

477
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,440
while they're not as easy to
find, and this is kind of

478
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,920
emotional for me because I
started taking acting classes

479
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,080
back in 2005 and the guy was
taken from his in Hospice right

480
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,280
now.
But I never found a group of

481
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,040
people in my life who treated me
better than the people in the

482
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,640
Austin acting community.
I mean, I walked into that

483
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,000
studio and I really felt like
that was a place where everybody

484
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,680
was my friend.
I find acting classes just an

485
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,880
amazing.
Therapy cheaper than therapy,

486
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,280
you know?
Just absolutely.

487
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,320
And don't you become a family
like almost instantly It is

488
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,480
built in family.
I, I think it's because you're

489
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,840
always applauding each other and
it does depend on the coach.

490
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,760
The other thing too is I've
noticed is, well, you have to

491
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,160
let people you know, be flexible
and try different things and

492
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,440
take risks.
But one thing is another thing

493
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,200
about a good acting coach.
A good acting coach will read

494
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,760
you the riot act if you're late.
But.

495
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,040
You'll meet a lot, you'll find a
lot of interesting people, and

496
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,600
just you'll learn a lot.
I I definitely can say acting

497
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,840
classes are great.
Toastmasters is good too.

498
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,160
Just, you know what, yeah, if
you find a really good club

499
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,440
work, they really do try to help
people along.

500
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,280
And yeah, yeah, thank.
You, Chris.

501
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,040
Yeah, yeah, appreciate that.
And I agree with you.

502
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,480
You know, look, that's is all
about sense of community.

503
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,520
It those Toastmasters and acting
classes, and I can speak from

504
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,640
the improv experience.
It really is a community.

505
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,160
If you like you said, you got to
find the right group and the

506
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,480
right leaders.
Of course, I think that applies

507
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,840
to any community that we're
joining.

508
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,240
But yeah, I'm with you there and
thank you for sharing your

509
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,240
experience.
My experience with improv was

510
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,280
not the same at all.
I don't know what it is, but I

511
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,200
always just say I the number of
times I've said acting is not

512
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,440
improv, It's not.
No, it's not They are two

513
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,080
different things.
I mean, there's some

514
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,960
similarities, but yes, they are
definitely two different things

515
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,160
and the community, the acting
community will absolutely agree

516
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,760
with you there.
I know that they feel very

517
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,400
strongly about that.
Those differences.

518
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000
Look, it's not for everyone,
just like they're I'm probably

519
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,240
there are probably people
listening right now that say the

520
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,280
same about acting classes,
right?

521
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,000
It's just that they're whatever
your preference is.

522
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,520
But yeah, I, I encourage anybody
who wants to improve their

523
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,600
speaking skills to consider some
of these things for sure.

524
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,600
Thank you, Chris, Appreciate you
and glad you came up on stage

525
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,760
and shared your experience with
us.

526
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,360
OK, Tide, thank you for being so
patient.

527
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,520
What did you want to add to
this?

528
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,560
Thank you.
These are really, really great

529
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,040
tips.
And I was just going to say that

530
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:29,400
for me, I have to know that it's
okay to slow my brain down.

531
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,040
So in the way that I'm talking
now, there will be some moments

532
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,680
where I'm speaking a lot faster
and then there will be moments

533
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,600
where I slow it down like this
so that I can purposely choose

534
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,480
each word.
And that really helps me to

535
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,440
process what I am saying and to
hear what I'm saying because the

536
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,640
last thing that I want to do is
listen.

537
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,160
And it happens all the time.
But the last thing I want to do

538
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:59,760
is re listen to my podcast and
say to myself, wow, what were

539
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,040
you saying?
Like, I don't even know what you

540
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,840
were saying when you were
talking.

541
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,480
And if I don't even know what
I'm saying when I'm re listening

542
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,560
to the recording, that probably
indicates that I'm babbling.

543
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,280
And then I need to slow down.
And then as Ralph said, I need

544
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,560
to take a pause.
And it's OK to have a pause

545
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,480
because when I think I don't, I
think it was said maybe who had

546
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,600
said, you know, not every
sentence has to be said in the

547
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,800
same breath.
And I think that's so true.

548
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,240
And when you listen to talk
radio, the people who who do the

549
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,760
best in their shows oftentimes
take what I've heard called a

550
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,320
radio pause.
And a lot of radio producers,

551
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,200
users didn't like the radio
pause because there was a

552
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,000
lingering silence for an
uncomfortable period of time

553
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,880
that wasn't super long, like 10
seconds, but it was enough where

554
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,600
you're like, oh, my God, fill
the airspace now.

555
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,720
Fill the airspace now.
Yeah.

556
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,600
And I think that a lot of times
I know for me personally, I feel

557
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,960
like, oh, shoot, I got to fill
the airspace with something.

558
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,120
And then that's when I start to
word vomit and not say the

559
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,720
things that I actually mean and
want to say.

560
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,320
The other piece that I was just
going to add is I really do work

561
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,560
very hard on improving my
vocabulary.

562
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,600
So I'm a very, very, very big
reader, love to read and I do

563
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,160
like to read some books that are
very challenging in terms of

564
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,000
Lexile levels.
And I like to keep a personal

565
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,440
dictionary.
I really do take the time that

566
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,840
to look up a word.
Sometimes it's a word that I

567
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,360
know and I will look up the
etymology of that word 'cause

568
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,080
I'm an academic at heart, I'm a
teacher.

569
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,960
So that's just kind of part of
my my personality.

570
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,200
And what I'll do is I'll look up
the etymology of that word and

571
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,560
then I will look up the
definitions of that word.

572
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,320
So I do take a lot of time to go
over words and the the dividends

573
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,800
and the benefits of that have
really been fruitful for me

574
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,560
personally.
And I say that more so coming

575
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,720
from a teacher, a teacher's
perspective, less, less from the

576
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,200
podcasting perspective.
Uh huh.

577
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Thank you, Tide, AKA Nikki.
I appreciate that.

578
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,640
Yeah, I think when it comes to
reading and all of the different

579
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,480
suggestions you shared around
reading, that's like seed

580
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,160
planting for me, right?
It's prepping you.

581
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,560
It's kind of like exercising,
you know, if you want to get in

582
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,240
better shape.
It's the same idea.

583
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,600
It's like reading will help you
get in better script reading

584
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,040
shape.
So yeah, thank you for that

585
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,120
point.
I appreciate it.

586
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,320
Ralph, how about you, Sir?
Yeah, I wanted to go to

587
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,560
something that I learned.
It's really practical and I'm a

588
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,080
big user of AI and what I do is
when I've written my script, I

589
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,600
tell AI to put this in
teleprompter form and give me

590
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:02,080
speaking cues, short sentences,
and put it in a way that I would

591
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,480
speak to another human being.
And Mark, that's actually what I

592
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,560
use for my practice.
And I have found that to be

593
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,760
hugely impactful because it'll
say pause, it'll say raise your

594
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,720
voice, it'll say lower your
voice, it'll say lean in, it'll

595
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,520
say lean back.
And working with my speaking

596
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,640
coach, that's the thing that
we've that's sort of become my

597
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,320
superpower in that, like Nikki
said, I always felt like I had

598
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,280
to fill the air and I go back
and listen to stuff I recorded

599
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,960
before.
I sort of like I sort of sounded

600
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,760
like a air traffic controller or
water Cronkite, I'm not sure

601
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,640
which.
But now that I'm speaking and

602
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,000
what's funny about this, Mark,
is it's the way I speak to

603
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,280
people now.
I used to be a real fast talker

604
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,480
and somebody did.
And and finally, it's funny.

605
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,640
One of my clients said the other
day, she goes, Ralph, she says,

606
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,080
I see a major change in you.
She says you let things land.

607
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,600
Now she said before like you
would put so much stuff because

608
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,960
she goes, you're a really smart
guy.

609
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,040
You know a lot of stuff.
She said, you put it out there

610
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,240
so quick that I didn't have a
chance to grab it and understand

611
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,120
what you were saying.
So I just did it right then.

612
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,280
So what I'm finding now is that
you know, you can, you can do

613
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,640
this.
Listen, I'm an accountant.

614
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,880
I went to school, I've been
doing accounting for 30 years.

615
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,400
I'm the definition of, yes, you
can do this.

616
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,280
Even if you don't have that
natural core strength set.

617
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,239
Invest in yourself, practice.
You know, one of the things my

618
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,840
speaking coach has me do, she
has me reading children's books.

619
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,480
And because it puts you in a
tone of voice like Once Upon a

620
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,600
time.
So if you are a big UAI user,

621
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,199
you can have AI give you the
speaking cues.

622
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,960
And Mark, I found that to be
really, really helpful.

623
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,600
Yeah, thank you, Ralph.
I appreciate that.

624
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,320
And it's nice to hear your
experience as you put it, you

625
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,560
know, somebody who is not a an
experienced content creator, at

626
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,600
least you weren't coming into it
anyway.

627
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,480
And yeah, I think that that's a
really important point.

628
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,320
Thank you for sharing some of
those tips.

629
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,640
You know, for me, I also think
when it comes to reading from a

630
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,600
script, energy matters because
people can hear when you're

631
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,600
tight or you're flat or you're
overthinking it, right?

632
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,000
They can also hear when you're
relaxed and connected to what

633
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,240
you're saying.
Again, I'm going to go back to

634
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:16,680
the client that I was mentioning
earlier when I was giving her

635
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,280
feedback after we went through a
a dry run, if you will.

636
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,080
One of the the most positive
things I shared with her was

637
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,160
with that when she was reading
from her script, she was smiling

638
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,440
the whole time.
She wasn't doing it

639
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,840
intentionally.
She wasn't realizing that she

640
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,640
was doing it, but what I told
her is I can really hear your

641
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,600
smile.
And that that's stopped her and

642
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,240
her Co host for a second because
they were like, oh, that that

643
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,000
was again, another light bulb
moment.

644
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,480
Like, yeah, that's true.
Actually, I now that you say

645
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,720
that you can hear a smile.
So I encourage you to practice

646
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:56,200
that a little bit, right.
Maybe there are times in your

647
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,400
script where smiling isn't
appropriate.

648
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,200
You don't want to sound super
excited if you're talking about

649
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,640
something, say sad or serious,
but it does convey something

650
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,000
people can pick up on the vibe.
So I encourage that as well.

651
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,200
And, and one other thing I'll
say is, is that if you're going

652
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,280
to use a script, use it as a
guide, but don't use it where

653
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,280
you're feeling caged in right
there.

654
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,360
There is something to that.
Sometimes the best delivery

655
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,680
happens when I just glance at
the script, because then I can

656
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,280
just grab the idea and say it a
little more naturally in the

657
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,280
moment.
So outlines serve me really well

658
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:43,480
in that kind of scenario because
I do struggle if I have a full

659
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,720
script in front of me, I
struggle with veering off script

660
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,000
because then I'm afraid I'm
going to lose my place and start

661
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,600
to stumble.
And to the points we've made

662
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,920
earlier, not as big of a deal if
you're recording because you can

663
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,520
go back and fix that.
But for a show like ours that we

664
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:06,440
record live, as they used to
say, live to tape, I think I,

665
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,120
it's, it's something that I have
to practice.

666
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,920
Yes, Ralph, go ahead.
And then we got to get into wins

667
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,600
from the week.
Yeah.

668
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,880
And I just want to trumpet what
you just said because one of the

669
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,600
things that's really helped me
is being on this show, because

670
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,040
this is not scripted.
And when you work in a live

671
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,560
environment, you will learn
skills that you don't realize

672
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,480
you have.
And they were super useful to

673
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,800
you, Mark.
So that's, I just want to

674
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,960
trumpet that because that is a
very brilliant point that you

675
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,520
just brought out there.
That has been what has made me

676
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,880
grow more than anything else.
So I want to thank the community

677
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,880
for that because it's, it's
challenging me like I, I don't

678
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,160
have a script in front of me
right now while I'm talking.

679
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,200
And to be honest with you, when
I first started on the show, it

680
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,280
made me very nervous because I
had gotten to this point where

681
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,560
everything I did was scripted.
So Mark, I just want to say

682
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,360
that's a very good point.
So even listen, even if you just

683
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,000
go into and and put the recorder
down and just give yourself a

684
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,480
question and just start talking,
that's one of the exercises that

685
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,040
I was doing every day for a
while.

686
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,440
I would just go in and record 10
minutes of me just talking about

687
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,120
a particular topic, no script.
It really refines your skill

688
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,560
set.
I love that.

689
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,640
Thank you.
And I'm just going to wrap it up

690
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,560
with this.
If there's nothing else you walk

691
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,040
away with from this part of the
conversation, at least walk away

692
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,160
with the idea of practicing out
loud because you'll hear it.

693
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,440
You'll start to hear it.
If you do this for every

694
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,800
podcast, if you go through your
script a few times out loud,

695
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,280
you'll start to notice the
improvements.

696
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,480
You'll start to notice the
changes, the evolution in how

697
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,680
you deliver your script.
So I encourage you and if you

698
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,920
can tolerate it, because I know
a lot of podcasters, even though

699
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,240
we record all the time, we can't
always tolerate our own voice.

700
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:52,040
But what I would say is do your
best and go back and listen,

701
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,720
record those practice runs and
then go back and listen and ask

702
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:57,760
yourself, did this sound like I
was reading?

703
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,760
And look at you're not going to
be perfect at it right out of

704
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,760
the gate.
But if you can hear those

705
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,040
improvements as you practice, I
think you're going to get more

706
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,480
excited about the idea of
practicing.

707
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,880
It's time for wins from the
week.

708
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,560
So let's dive into that.
It's Friday and that's what we

709
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,880
do to wrap up our Fridays.
We wrap up Friday and the week

710
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:29,000
with sharing community wins.
So I will set the bar here.

711
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,920
I will set the pace is the
better way to put it and share

712
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,880
just a couple of mine and then
we will go down the line.

713
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,880
But listen, we've got a nice
full house here in the audience

714
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,040
come up if you want to share any
of your wins from this week.

715
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,080
It doesn't all have to be
podcast related.

716
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,640
I'll give you bonus points if it
is, but it does not have to be

717
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,360
podcast related for me.
Here are my wins.

718
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,760
One is I made it through a full
week of shows after missing the

719
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,440
past two Mondays.
Not this one, but the 1-2 prior

720
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,760
in a row so.
And again, thanks to the team

721
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,680
for always holding down the Fort
for me when I need it.

722
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,360
Another win I would say is
podcast on yesterday's episode

723
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:22,960
really touched me.
It was also for me as your host,

724
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,000
it was a nice change of pace.
It was a way that we could

725
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,040
really not only support these
important organizations that we

726
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,960
like to support, but it was also
a wonderful way to get to know

727
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,880
each other even more on a deeper
level.

728
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,280
So thank you to all of you who
participated.

729
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,840
And by the way, if you missed it
or you want to go back and

730
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,880
support one of the organizations
that we shared yesterday, go to

731
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:54,040
podcastingmorningchat.com/charity
and you can see all the ones

732
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,880
listed that were shared,
including people from our

733
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,760
audience that came up and shared
as well.

734
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,880
Ralph took care of that
yesterday and added those there.

735
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,000
So for example, Tim, we added a
link to support multiple

736
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520
sclerosis.
So we tried to hit everybody.

737
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,800
I think Janae also had one to
support Islam, right?

738
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,880
So we we put that in there.
So yeah, go support these

739
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,600
different organizations.
And by the way, Ralph, I'm just

740
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,000
thinking out loud here.
We should probably put a link to

741
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,520
that show on that page to the
show that we did.

742
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,320
I think that's a great idea.
Mark Yeah.

743
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,400
So we will do that as well so
people can easily find that

744
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,800
show.
A last win is Ralph joining the

745
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,360
team as officially as Co
executive producer.

746
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:49,360
That is a huge win for me.
It is a load off my shoulders

747
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,640
because Ralph is really going to
help me a lot with the behind

748
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,440
the scenes and let's be real,
already has.

749
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,040
So a huge win for me and I
believe for the community as

750
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,520
well.
OK, who would like to share a

751
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,360
win or two with the group?
And if you don't, I'm just going

752
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,920
to go down, down the line.
Actually, here's what I'm going

753
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,520
to do.
John from the audience has

754
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,200
joined us on stage.
Let's go to John first.

755
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,200
Good morning, John, welcome to
the stage.

756
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,360
Please share a win with us.
Hello everyone, well the first

757
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,440
win is finding this show in the
community and I want to thank

758
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,880
Ralph for that.
The second win is knowing when

759
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,720
to walk away.
I had some technical issues with

760
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,600
my Rd. caster pro and I Rd.
caster duo have a couple of them

761
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,840
and at one point I had none of
them working and I was on the

762
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,920
call with tech support and I
finally just had to walk away

763
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,280
because I've tried so many
things.

764
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,840
Your head's spinning, just walk
away, take a break from it, come

765
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,120
back with fresh, you know,
attitude.

766
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,680
And within 5 minutes I had
everything fixed.

767
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,520
And then the third one is to
give yourself grace.

768
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,720
Every show I do is live.
It's not really scripted, it's

769
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,120
bullet points and you're going
to mess up.

770
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,040
And you know what?
Everybody messes up.

771
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,880
So give yourself grace, make a
joke out of it, don't freak out.

772
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,920
So they're my wins.
Oh also, you know the community

773
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,680
here, you guys tell me things.
I'm like, oh, why didn't I think

774
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,720
of that?
That's a great idea.

775
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,560
So being able to do that,
incorporate that is they're my

776
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,080
wins.
Thank you, John.

777
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,280
I will also add a win and it's
that you've joined our

778
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,600
community.
So thank you for sharing that.

779
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,640
I am so glad that you're already
finding it really valuable and

780
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,400
please keep coming back.
You're welcome to join the stage

781
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,560
at any time if you want to add.
And I really appreciate your

782
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,080
wins.
You definitely earned the bonus

783
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,960
points because you really went
all in on the podcasting wins.

784
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,120
So I appreciate that.
And you knowing when to walk

785
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,720
away, I think is such a an
important point for all of us to

786
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:57,680
take away today because, yeah, I
think one of the best parts of

787
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,040
walking away is it allows your
head to just kind of reset and

788
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,120
reorganize and then you have a
new fresh perspective going back

789
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,920
to it.
And I'm glad that that worked so

790
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,960
well for you.
And yeah, giving yourself grace.

791
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,560
Yeah, we all mess up.
And I think it's more

792
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,280
appreciated now than ever before
those mess ups.

793
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,680
Thanks John.
What is the name of your

794
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,840
podcast?
I actually have two.

795
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,480
One is called the Boomer Bunker
and the other one is called

796
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,960
Brandex.
Brandex we do once a month,

797
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,160
three friends from college.
We get together, we day drink

798
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,760
and we eat lunch.
So that's just a pleasure

799
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,760
project and it really should be
a phone call.

800
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,880
But you know what?
We record it and we've been

801
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,480
doing Brandex since 2016.
We took a four year break, we

802
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,640
came back to it.
And then the other one is the

803
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,200
Boomer Bunker.
I'm going to have to warn

804
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,920
everybody it's a very not
politically non correct show and

805
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,680
it's definitely not for
children.

806
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,920
So if you have, if your
sensibilities get insulted, it's

807
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,680
not the show for you.
But we have a lot of fun with

808
00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,680
it.
We do it twice a week.

809
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,560
We live stream at 6:30 PM
Eastern Time.

810
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,480
We live stream it on Mondays and
Thursdays.

811
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,160
And listen, I'm retired.
I podcast for fun.

812
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,160
I've been doing it since 2012.
I was more of a podcast editor

813
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,520
for a long time and I just
really enjoy it.

814
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,280
And but I wanted to sound like
like a broadcast show.

815
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,600
And that's my main, you know, my
main consideration when I do

816
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,920
this.
Love it.

817
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,840
Great question.
Thank you for asking that, Dr.

818
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,440
And yeah, John, thank you for
sharing.

819
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,600
Thank you for diving into this
community and come in every

820
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,480
morning.
It's good to have you here.

821
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,920
And again, you're welcome on
stage anytime as any of you are

822
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,440
here live on Clubhouse.
And by the way, again, if you

823
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,840
want to learn how to be a part
of the Clubhouse community, let

824
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,960
me find the right links and
where to go.

825
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:52,800
Just go to
podcastingmorningchat.com/join

826
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,480
us.
Yes, that's the one.

827
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,520
And there was one other thing I
wanted to say about the whole

828
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,840
giving yourself grace.
Oh, when I was saying everyone

829
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,600
messes up and it's needed now
more than ever, I would.

830
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:10,320
I'm referring to the fact that
AI has been so overwhelming that

831
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,640
I think now people are looking
for the mess up and breathing

832
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,360
that sigh of relief when they
hear it because they're saying,

833
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,120
OK, that is a human.
It goes a long way.

834
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:23,480
Thank you, John, appreciate you.
Anyone else want to share wins?

835
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,160
Ralph, I'll come to you, but I
want to hear from Dr. Sid, BC,

836
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,880
etcetera.
So I'll first go to you, Ralph.

837
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,960
Go ahead.
Yeah, So my win is definitely

838
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,760
being a more active party here
on the community chat here.

839
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,000
So thank you for that second big
win.

840
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,080
Is John joining us?
That was great that that John

841
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,080
reached out and said, hey, how
do I get on the clubhouse?

842
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,680
That was fantastic.
My third win is actually kind of

843
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,480
cool.
This week I got featured on pod

844
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,400
news twice and that was really
cool.

845
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,880
I wrote an article and if you're
a content creator about tips, so

846
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,520
go check that out on pod news.
But that was really cool that

847
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,400
that James Cridland featured me
twice on pod news.

848
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,640
So that's my wins of the week.
I got one more.

849
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,160
I'm sorry it's not podcast
related.

850
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,840
During the show 2 weeks ago my
office receptionist texted me

851
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,040
that she was quitting by text,
which was not a great time in

852
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,400
the middle of tax season.
But yesterday afternoon I hired

853
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,160
somebody new, so relief is on
the way.

854
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,600
So thank you for letting me
share those wins today.

855
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,520
Ralph, remind me, what was the
third win you shared?

856
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,880
That I just had hired a new
person because I had somebody

857
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,160
quit in the Middle Attack,
right?

858
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,960
Before that, sorry.
Oh, being on POD News featured

859
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,160
twice on POD.
Yeah, and actually featured 3

860
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,960
times in two weeks.
That's very true.

861
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,600
Actually, yeah, I actually got
to the point where James says,

862
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,160
and here's Ralph Estep again.
And, and it's funny because

863
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,800
yesterday I'm a member of the
Podcast Professionals

864
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,560
Association.
When I joined the call, somebody

865
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,160
says, Ralph, you're everywhere.
Are you cloning yourself now?

866
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,600
I said.
Yeah, I got to get some sleep.

867
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,480
You and Jim Carrey.
OK.

868
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,240
Thank you, Ralph.
Appreciate that.

869
00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:54,720
All right, Dr. I'm coming to
you.

870
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,440
Share or win?
I have one.

871
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,400
I have one.
Everyone does.

872
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,880
I'm glad you found yours.
Go ahead.

873
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,960
Yeah, I don't get the extra
points for podcast related, but

874
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,600
OK.
So in Nashville about, I guess,

875
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,440
six weeks ago, we had a huge ice
storm.

876
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:18,400
And up until yesterday,
everyone's lawn was full of

877
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,920
trees and limbs and debris and
that they had just shoved to the

878
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,760
edge of their lawn.
It was finally picked up

879
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:32,080
yesterday and it just feels.
So when I open the door now,

880
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,400
it's like I can see the person
across the street from me

881
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,560
because these piles were so high
and so intrusive.

882
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,560
And so it prevented us from
moving forward.

883
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,960
And so now.
It's paved the way for spring.

884
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,240
It's paved.
Yes.

885
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,000
Yes, I know that feeling.
It's like it's the same idea as,

886
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,720
you know, when your house has
been messy and you've cleaned up

887
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:59,040
everything, it's that you get
breathe that sigh of relief.

888
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,720
Yeah.
And it feels so good.

889
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:01,480
Yeah.
I get it.

890
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,480
I get it.
Thank you, Dr. Thanks for

891
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,880
sharing a win with us, BC.
I'm coming to you and then Sid,

892
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,600
you're on deck.
Go ahead BC.

893
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,480
OK, so wins for the week.
I would have to say nothing

894
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,400
monumental has occurred, so I
will just say that I am

895
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:23,280
continuing to truck along and
try really hard to build a

896
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,760
career for myself.
I am, as you and Ralph saw

897
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,440
yesterday, looking for full time
work, looking for some

898
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,440
consistencies.
So I'm open to new ventures, but

899
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,080
other than that I'm still
working with several avenues to

900
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,760
build something a bit more
unique.

901
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,080
So I guess my win for the week
is just not giving up yet.

902
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,680
And congratulations for putting
yourself out there, putting the

903
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,440
word out that you are available
for hire.

904
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,960
And yeah, BC you want to just
share quickly what kind of work

905
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,760
you're looking for.
Man, I've got such a pretty

906
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,200
broad background when it comes
to nonprofit and for profit

907
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,360
communications.
Marketing works, so anything

908
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,560
that involves overseeing A-Team,
we're helping to coordinate.

909
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,160
You know, good large scale
products for nonprofit or for

910
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,040
profit would be ideal for me.
I've just been all over the

911
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,200
place, so I bring a pretty
varied background to whatever

912
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,040
team I get to be on.
Awesome.

913
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,240
Congratulations, BCI, Know that
yeah, you have a lot going on

914
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:30,400
and it's good to see that you're
you're exploring the different

915
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,960
avenues to make it happen.
So kudos to you and Sid, my

916
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,600
friend, you are.
Unless someone comes up on

917
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,960
stage, you are our final win
sharer of the week.

918
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,000
So go for it my friend.
Yeah.

919
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,480
So my win for the week is a
personal one.

920
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,920
My son Jackson is home for a few
days for some.

921
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,200
He's been home since he went
back to school in January.

922
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,960
So it's nice to have him here
and to catch up on all things

923
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,560
going on with him.
So that is my win for the week.

924
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,760
Love it and enjoy your time with
him Yeah I'm I'm going to be

925
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,600
visiting my family next week and
get to see one of our kids next

926
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,600
week as well.
So yeah, I I feel and share the

927
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,600
excitement with you also, Tim.
Yeah, I'm.

928
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,760
Sorry, your stepson, Matthew.
Yes.

929
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,000
His content is really good you
should tell him that like his

930
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,920
content is really good.
I enjoy watching him cook for

931
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,600
his roommates so I love it.
Thank you for sharing you.

932
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,240
You re share those.
That's how it shows up on my

933
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:33,320
TikTok so.
Yes, well, give him a follow.

934
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,080
And I think I started, I think I
did actually, I think I started

935
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,720
following.
But I really enjoy his cooking

936
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:39,880
content.
So tell him he's doing a good

937
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,360
job and to keep it.
Up I love it.

938
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,240
I love it.
I will tell him that, Sid,

939
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:45,440
that's awesome.
And yes, if you want to follow

940
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,840
my stepson, he does all sorts of
cooking videos.

941
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,120
And yeah, like Sid said, one of
the big angles with his content

942
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,000
is that he cooks for his
roommates every Sunday.

943
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,840
And then he records the whole
prep and everything.

944
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,120
And he's doing quite well at it.
And you can follow him on

945
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:07,760
Instagram at Matthew B Cooks.
I don't have his TikTok up in

946
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,040
front of me, but I think his
Instagram is actually doing even

947
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,320
better than the TikTok.
And all I'll say is this, Sid,

948
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,520
he's doing really well at it.
And he's been, I have to be

949
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,360
really careful.
He's been noticed by an

950
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:30,040
extremely large content creator,
meaning popularly large.

951
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,600
That's all I can say.
There's a lot more behind that

952
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:36,360
to come on that and it's and
it's been in place right now.

953
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,240
What's going on?
What's that?

954
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,440
It's like an NDA or something in
place.

955
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,760
Right now.
There's an NDA.

956
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,120
There's an NDA in.
Place right now.

957
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,960
Wow.
So I you can only imagine as a

958
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,680
content creator of 20 years how
proud and excited I am and how

959
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,960
frustrating it's been not to
tell you all about this.

960
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:00,520
I've been chomping at the bit to
share and I still can't, but I

961
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,640
have a feeling over the next,
well, more is supposed to

962
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,800
develop over the next week or
two and hopefully I will have

963
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,640
more to share.
Follow my stepson Matthew B the

964
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,840
letter B cooks.
All right gang, we are back

965
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,000
Monday 7:00 AM Eastern talking
all things podcasting with our

966
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:26,960
new series coming up, Money
Monday by Ralph E Step and again

967
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,080
I will be there as well, but
Ralph as our money guy will help

968
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,240
lead the charge.
Ralph, did you want to add

969
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:35,120
something before we wrap?
I just want to add one thing if

970
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,640
you are getting.
Value from the show one of the

971
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,120
ways you can give back value is
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972
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,360
actually added buy me a coffee
now this isn't a physical coffee

973
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,760
but it's a way for everybody to
support the show you can go to

974
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:52,240
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you'll see the little icon there

975
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:55,280
on all the websites so that's a
great way to help support the

976
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,360
cost of the show again, that's
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977
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,440
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for letting me throw that in

978
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,840
there mark thank you for
throwing it in I appreciate it

979
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,520
so remember we're.
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980
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:11,520
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981
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,000
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