523. Why Podcast Community Matters More Than Ever

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Marc Ronick: Good morning,

podcasters.

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Today is Friday, may 22 2026 and
today we'll talk
about why

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podcasters may be chasing
audience growth before
they've

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built real community, and how
people already showing
up can

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create your strongest lasting
momentum.

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So, if you're
listening live
on Clubhouse, hit the share

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button, top right-hand
side of
the screen, and share it however

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Clubhouse lets you.
And
if you're catching us via

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podcast, YouTube, etc. please

share this with a fellow

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podcaster.
And now, give us
about 30

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seconds, we'll get things
rolling.

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Thanks for being
here.
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Good morning again,
podcasting

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morning show.
Thank you so much for being

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here.
I am
your host, Mark Ronick,

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and currently with me on stage,
the
virtual stage, we have

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Ralph Estep, D.R.
Fay, and BC Babbles,
and of

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course, yours truly.
But also on the Clubhouse stage,

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we
have April and some and
some Baza joining us as well

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from the
audience, I asked
them to come up here because

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when we started
it was eerie
quiet in here.

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D.R.
Fay: It took pity on us.

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Marc Ronick: We don't normally -

it doesn't usually start where

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there's just like three of us,

and so April and Sambaza were

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the first to come in the room.

So I asked them to just come up

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and keep us company.
We're not
used to it, but I

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see now we've got Gabe and Bez
joining us here
on Clubhouse

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as well, and Jonathan Howard,
co-host.

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He has
just joined us as well.
Good to have everybody here.

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I've had my
first day at home.
Well, my wife had her first day

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at home
yesterday, since she
was unexpectedly in the

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hospital, so
things were
feeling a little more status quo

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after a crazy
five or so days,
and I've also got my parents in

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town as well,
which has been
very helpful, and a coincidence

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they didn't come
in because of
my wife's situation, they were

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already
scheduled to come in,
and it was a blessing to have

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them here,
it's very helpful.
So all things are going well for

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those of you
who may be
wondering, overall, like I said,

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we've got a road
ahead of us,
but things are looking good.

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So today, before
we dig in, I
was just debating what to do

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here, because I have
a feeling
I was going to share.

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We're going to dive into our

spotlight of the week.

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So this is our spotlight series,
where
we showcase our

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different community members and
their
podcasts, and I was

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hesitating because I'm wondering
if
Clubhouse is going to be

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able to hear it when I play it,
because
I feel like that's

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been a thing when I've tried it
before.

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By
the way, welcome.
Now that people are filing in

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here on
Clubhouse, oh, and so
is Sid from live from London, so

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we'll
check in with Sid as
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So I guess what I'll do first
here is
I'm just going to test

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this.
I should have tested it


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beforehand, so please forgive
me, but right now, so I'm in


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Riverside, I'm using their
little share feature, much like

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you'd see on Zoom, for example,
and I've got to, of course, turn

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on the share sound as well,
doing that all right.

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So now my
team here should be
able to see at least a preview

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of what I'm
about to show you.
Today's spotlight comes from

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Cartridge
and Quest, and it's
hosted by Average Trav and Food

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Mike C.

And by the way, I sometimes like

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that when we're not just using

our real names, depending on the

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show, and a show like this one,
I think it works well when

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we've got our podcast names, our
radio
names, whatever you want

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to call them, when we've got
those
little names, sometimes

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that helps an audience connect
more
with those hosts, it

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helps them remember the host's
name
originally initially, and

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then it's something that they
kind of
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so I like that.
All right, before I really


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play it, so let me first tell
you about this show again.


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Cartridge and Quest, the show is
built around it's kind of like a

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hangout for 90s kids, right?
And it's something that I think

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those 9090s kids will instantly
recognize, crapping, crapping.


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Ralph, can you hit the words
hard in the morning?

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Thank you.
Jingle: Brain is not math, says

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glory.
Guess I forgot words are hard in

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the morning.
Crapping, I
say that out loud.

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Ralph Estep Jr: It's that

crapping situation.

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Marc Ronick: So the show is

built around.

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The kind of hangout a lot of 80s
kids will
instantly recognize,

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cracking open a cold beverage,
heading
into the basement, and

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talking retro games, pop
culture,
classic wrestling

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nostalgia, etc.
So, as you listen to this


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clip, pay attention to the vibe.
This is a show that seems to


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know exactly who it's for, what
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create.
So let's check out cartridge and

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quest D.R.
Fay: before you do.

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Yes,
the word cartridge is
that referring to the VH one

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tapes
that we used to have.
I Marc Ronick: think that's


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referring to video game
cartridges back today.

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Yes, yes.

Thank you.

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Which is a completely foreign
concept to kids today,
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you just download the games now,
you don't even need
anything,

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you don't have to even go to the
store these days to
buy those

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games.
Okay, so let's mark, let me

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Ralph Estep Jr: throw one more

thing in.

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So, if you want to see it, they
actually submitted a
video

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submission, so if you want to go
check out the live show.


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If you're not there now, you can
check it out afterwards, but


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check out what they send in,
because it's very cool too.

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Marc Ronick: Yep, and you can

find that at Podcasting Morning

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show.com/join us.
Here is
Cartridge and Quest.

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Clip: Crack open a cold one, and

welcome to the basement.

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This is your brick-walled
sanctuary,
away from the daily

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grind of adulting and Dad Life,
I am
Average Trav, and

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alongside Foodie Mike See, we
are bringing
that pure 1985

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energy straight to your speakers
every week on
The Cartridge

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and Quest Podcast.
We ditch the real world for a


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deep dive into 90s nostalgia.
We are talking everything from

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the
SNES and Sega Genesis
playground rivalry to attitude

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era
wrestling, classic
Saturday morning cartoons, and

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the wild
fashion choices we
all thought looked fresh.

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We will test your
brain with
cartridge conundrum trivia,

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judge some truly
questionable
lyrics in Lost in Translation,

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and break down
exactly what
these damn kids are saying

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today.
Foodie Mike C
might even drop

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some culinary heat by
re-imagining iconic pop


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culture meals.
Sure, some of those old games

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are pretty
clunky now, and
modern tech is actually nice,

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but those warm
90s memories
are undeniable.

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Whether you are rocking Air

Jordans or just trying to

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survive the week, grab your

favorite craft drink and come

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hang out.
You can find the show,
the

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merch, and the whole community
right now at Cartridge
and

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quest.com Keep it rad and peace.
Marc Ronick: Thank you,


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Cartridge and Quest.
I gotta say, if you were

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watching the
video, it is very
well done.

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I'm guessing that the way that
you
know they really bring us

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into a 90s basement, and I gotta
think
they were had to use AI

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to make some of that happen.
I don't
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BC, what did you want to add?
BC Babbles: Well, good morning,

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everyone.
To me, completely AI, but it's

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very well done AI,
personally.
But they had me at the Sega

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Genesis controller.
Marc Ronick: Me too, they BC

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Babbles: had me in my.. that

was my life.

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Marc Ronick: Yes, they had me at

the Nintendo controller, the

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classic Nintendo controller on

the table there.

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Yeah, really well done, kept my
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I
will say I would encourage
them, I would encourage them to

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get
music that plays
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seven seconds,
and yes,
technically that's a party foul.

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We only wanted 60,
but I don't
mind playing this.

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I know Cartridge and Quest, and
these guys listen to the

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podcasting morning show

regularly, so yeah, just want to

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encourage you guys.
It's so well
done that I feel

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like once the music cuts out
seven seconds
early, it just

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loses a little something.
So, I would encourage
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find something that plays all
the way through, but I
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tell you again, this show, what
stood out for me right
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at least with this clip, is how
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around a feeling, right?
It's not just we talk about

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games and
wrestling, it's that
basement hangout, the cold

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beverage
thing, the 90s
nostalgia, the kind of

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conversation where the

audience probably feels like

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they're sitting there with the

hosts, and that's really I

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connect so much with that,

because my old show, The Mark

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and Lowell Show, was that right,

and it was, it was more 80s,

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90s.
It wasn't just specific to


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90s, but that was the same kind
of feel we tried to create, was

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that people just felt like they
were hanging out with us in the

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room, and it's a great reminder
for podcasters, because your


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show description, your intro,
your clips, all of it should


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help people understand the
experience that they're stepping

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into.
Cartridge and Quest does a nice

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job of giving listeners a

specific world to enter into,

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and you can find their show at

cartridge and quest.com And if

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you'd like your podcast featured

on the Podcasting Morning

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Show, submit a 62nd clip about
your
show at Podcasting

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Morning show.com/spotlight and
if we
select it, we'll do just

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like what we did here.
We'll play it
on a future

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episode, we'll share what stood
out to us, and we'll
introduce

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your show to our community of
podcasters and
creators.

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So do that again, that's.
Podcasting Morning


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show.com/spotlight and if anyone
else wanted to chime in, you are

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more than welcome to, but let
me do this.

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Since today is a
community
day, let me pause here real

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quick before we get into
the
topic of really what it takes to

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build a community and
why I
believe that's so important.

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I just want to stop
and say
hello to Sid, who is in London

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at the moment.
Sid, thank
you for stopping

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in.
I know I planted that seed

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earlier, but
you heeded the
call.

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I appreciate that.
How's
everything going in

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London?
Sid Meadows: Good morning, or


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good afternoon, everybody.
It's going great.

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London has been
awesome.
We're finishing up lunch at a

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pub with a pint and a
apparel
spritz, then we're headed over

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to Westminster Abbey
for a
tour, and so, yeah, it's London

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has been spectacular.
Got
a couple more days before

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I head home, and so, yeah, it's
been
great.

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I've been missing you guys,
however, have been
listening

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to the podcast, and I said this
to Mark this morning,
and I'll

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say it to all of you, if you've
never listened to the
show on

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podcast, you should.
It's spectacular.

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It is really
good.
The editing is great.

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VR is super funny on the show,
not
irritating as she is in

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person.
I have laughed out loud in VR so

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many times.
D.R.

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Fay: I'm not irritating.
Sid Meadows: Wow, that was. but

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no, just listening to the show,
completely different experience

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rather than actually being on
the show every morning, right?


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And it's been fantastic.
The yesterday's show, I like, I

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was
note taking like crazy, I
sent on my notes, Mark, this

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morning,
like that was a
really, really good show.

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So I've enjoyed
listening in,
and so I've missed all of you

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guys, but it's been,
it's been
great to be able to consume via

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podcast, so I'll be
back on
Tuesday for two days, and then

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I'm off again.
Marc Ronick: Yeah, awesome, I


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love it.
And thank you, I appreciate the

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feedback, Sid,
and maybe it is
a little biased, but at the same

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time I agree
with you, I, it's
fun to kind of every once in a

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while I do like
to go back and
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and I would
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to do the same, and
I'm
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"Yeah, I do that already,

because I edit my own podcast,

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so I hear it all the time.
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experience once you edit it, and

then sit down somewhere, like

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one for us as podcasters.
So, okay,
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Thank you, Sid.
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listening into it, because I'm
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midnight where you guys are when
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done it and out there, so it's
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London's been great, and I'm
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enjoying
the vacation, and
Jonathan, did you get my text

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message?
Marc Ronick: Oh, Jonathan, did

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Sid Meadows: Jonathan, Marc
Ronick: did you get Sid's
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message?
He Sid Meadows: didn't respond

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He's dis, Marc Ronick: he's not

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responding.
There he is.

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Jonathan Howard: I did.
I was, I
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yesterday.
So, I'm Sid Meadows: sorry.

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Oh, now, Jonathan Howard: no,
no, don't
worry about it.

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Are you Sid Meadows: okay,
Jonathan?

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Jonathan Howard: We're, we'll

figure it out.

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We'll figure it out.
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BC Babbles: Well, I Sid Meadows:
found the perfect
pub for

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Jonathan.
It's called the Antisocial Club,

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and I said
in the picture of
it, Jonathan, I'm hoping, Manny,

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feel better
soon.
Sorry, Marc Ronick: yes, I hope

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so too,
Jonathan.
Feel better, and yeah, whenever

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you're ready to share
more, by
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moment to do so.
But take
care of yourself, my

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friend, and we're thinking about
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All
right, let's do this
today.

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I want to talk about something

that I think a lot of podcasters

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feel, but they don't always say
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You could be creating something
that's meant
to connect people

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and still feel like you're doing
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you're checking the numbers,


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you're sharing the links you're
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still feel quiet on the other
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So, today we're digging
into
what actually turns listeners

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into people who
respond, they
participate, they recommend, and

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help you build
momentum.
And some of this today, I think,

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is going to be a
little bit
from my podcast talk that I did

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in January, which was
all
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there's a five step process

that I put together when putting

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my presentation together that I
think we'll share here today,

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but first I want to start with a

question for you guys.

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What's something that a listener
has
done that made you think,

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okay, doing this podcast
matters.

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It
actually is something that
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do
it.
This is a sign, right?

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That's a one way to put it.
So,
Ralph, you were first to

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raise your hand.
What say Ralph Estep Jr: you?

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Good
morning, everybody.
Yeah, and I had something happen

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daily show for people to send me

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a voicemail and talk about how

the show is impacting them.

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and they said that I had changed

their life.

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they're finally getting to a
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their finances.
They said that their marriage is

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stronger because they don't
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it was a two-minute
voicemail, and you couldn't have

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paid me
money to match the
feeling that I had after

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listening to that.

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definition of this is why I'm

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you what, man, it was just an

amazing experience.

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I responded back in about 30
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thought I was crazy, but no, but
it was just amazing
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how the words that I'm using,
the effort that I put
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daily show, is impacting
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Yeah, I have a recent one as
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doesn't embarrass the person, I
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Lee, who's in the audience, who
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Clubhouse, it's all about
community, and man, I couldn't


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agree more, Gabe, but Gabe is, I
have a similar example to yours,

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Ralph, because Gabe posted in
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Podcasting, and actually I saw
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platforms as well, but he wrote
something on the 19th, he wrote,

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ever since the time change,
I've been able to listen to the

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show,
I love the dynamic that
Mark, Ralph, D.R.

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BC, Alex Sid, and
everyone
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This has been a
great
highlight for me to start my day

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and really learn so much
about
my passion for podcasting.

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Thank you all for the amazing

and tireless work you being to

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all of us.
I think there's a
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but nonetheless, Gabe, that
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and it's when I get stuff like
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or like I shared a couple of
times recently that
LinkedIn

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post from a listener who said
they were listening to
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podcasts about podcasting, they
found us, and within a few


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weeks dropped all the others and
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Those are the
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this is worth it,
right?
Because there are certainly

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times doing a podcast
that's
five days a week and scrambling

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to make sure we can
put on as
good of a show as we can every

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single day.
There are
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grind starts to feel like, oh,
why am I doing
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member of the community and has
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religiously every day.
That means the world to me.

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So, thank
you to Gabe.
And yeah, I, you know, these are

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the types of
examples that I'm
talking about.

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Does anybody else want to share
an example, whether it's

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something like that or something

else entirely.

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What's something the listener
has done that made
you think

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this matters?
Does anyone Sid Meadows: share

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Mark?
Because
I can't, I can't use

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the chili pepper for whatever
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I love the
comments, that's
all really great.

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I love the emails, but
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listener tell me two weeks ago

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that she shared a specific

episode with her entire team,

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because the message was so

impactful.

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When you hear that, like face to
face, it was over a
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was really good, but when you
hear her, this is the
COO of a

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pretty large manufacturer, she
said, I shared
that with my

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entire team, because it was so
impactful, and
I want them to

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understand the meeting time, and
I, that's why
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right?
When they hit this year, and the

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fact that she
didn't share it
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it with her
entire team, which
I think is 10 people, like

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that's why you do
this.
So, yeah, that for me, will I

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always remember that
moment
that she told me that.

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Marc Ronick: Love that one.

Thank you, Sid.

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All right, anyone else know?


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Well, I think that I do want to

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just make it clear that
this
is the part that I think a lot

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of podcasters miss, because

they say they want the numbers,

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the analytics to be in a certain

place, right, but underneath

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that they usually want proof

that their work matters, right.

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They want to see opportunities,
they want to see credibility,

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they want people to care.
Those
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relationships, and relationships
get stronger
when people feel

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included, right.
So, another question for
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maybe we can play off of that
last question.

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What are
some signs that your
podcast audience or a podcast

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audience
is actually starting
to become a community?

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Right, because there
is a
difference when we talk about

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audience, those are people
who
are pressing play on your

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podcast, we don't necessarily.

Know how long we don't know if

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they're coming back the next

week or not, but they're people,

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that's your audience, that's

those are your listeners or

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viewers, but a community to me,
well, this is an example right

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here, right, this very group of
people, these are people that

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to me are showing up all the
time,
they're participating,

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they're communicating that about
this
show, they're sharing it

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with others, and I know I've
given
you a bunch of examples

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What, what are some signs that a
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that I look for is if people are
sharing my content when I go on

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to social media and I see
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reel or something like that, and
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you got to listen to this.
That to me is the definition of

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you
have a community.
I call them my brand

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ambassadors, and I'm
starting
to see a lot of those people,

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and that really
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because those are
the people
that are going to tell other

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people I'm a believer
in sort
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marketing, and that
is going
out and taking a genuine

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interest in one person,
and
then the next day I find

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somebody else, and I find

somebody else, and it's

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interesting.
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this pre show, that's the way
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relationships in podcasting, and
when I reach out to somebody,


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like we're going to have
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on the show Tuesday, that was
because I basically reached out

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to that person on LinkedIn.
I said, I really appreciate what

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you do, and that build a
relationship.

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And now this is
now she's
going to come on the show, and

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you know, if you have
people
out there doing the same for

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your content, that is what
is
going to grow your community,

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and once your community grows,

it's kind of like a restaurant,

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when you go out for a

restaurant, what do we always

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say?
Oh, where's a good
restaurant

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to eat?
You listen for what other people

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say, and
you, if somebody said
it's terrible, you don't go

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there at
all.
But your content is going to

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work the same way.
If you can
build this

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community of people who are your
brand ambassadors,
it is going

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to be super successful for you,
and your
download numbers will

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be the afterthought, because
your
community is going to be

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so strong that you're just going
to
have a huge presence.

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Marc Ronick: Yeah, sometimes

what it takes, yeah, is those

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signs at seeing our audience

putting it out there, like, hey,

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check out this guy's podcast,

it's really good.

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I really like it.
I think that is to me,
that's

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a seed for community building,
and Ralph, you taking
it a

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step further and noticing those
people who are sharing and


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reaching out to them and
thanking them.

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That's where you
start to
nourish that seed, right?

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You're actually rewarding

those people, and to them it is

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a reward to hear from the person

that they're sharing about to

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say thank you, that means a lot.
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I like what April put into the
YouTube chat.

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She said to me,
community is
made up of action takers who

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come alongside you on
your
journey, and vice versa.

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And then she put hashtag

momentum and super fans, she put

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in the clubhouse chat, and that
is exactly the correct answer.

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April, thank you so much for

sharing that.

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Marc Ronick: Agreed.
Yeah, for
me, I think it's

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yes, it's the people who are
sharing my stuff,
but it's

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also the people who take the
minute to reach out to
me and

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to tell me, like Ralph, like
what you were sharing
earlier,

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the people that thank you for
what you're doing, send
you an

428
00:23:18,010 --> 00:23:22,420
email, send you a DM, etc.
That's a great sign for you
to

429
00:23:22,420 --> 00:23:25,905
take action and start that
connection, because it's not


430
00:23:25,913 --> 00:23:29,332
that they necessarily are going
to be upset about it or angry


431
00:23:29,340 --> 00:23:32,999
about it, and I think I may have
shared this once before, not too

432
00:23:32,999 --> 00:23:37,256

long ago, as some of you know,
for the Empowered Podcasting


433
00:23:37,264 --> 00:23:42,210
Conference, me, Jason Circon,
and Rich Perry, we do a every


434
00:23:42,218 --> 00:23:46,210
other week show where we're
sharing about what's going on


435
00:23:46,218 --> 00:23:49,672
behind the scenes and sharing
about different community


436
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,904
members, and the way that I
promote that show, I don't do


437
00:23:54,912 --> 00:23:59,392
ads, I don't pay for ads, I
don't put up a lot of short


438
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,563
clips or anything like that to
get people's attention.

439
00:24:02,563 --> 00:24:07,810
I
literally reach out to, I'd
say, one to two dozen people

440
00:24:07,810 --> 00:24:11,362
from the
community that I've
identified as either community

441
00:24:11,362 --> 00:24:13,377
members or
potential community
members.

442
00:24:13,377 --> 00:24:17,318
I reach out to them like two
hours
before we go live, and I

443
00:24:17,318 --> 00:24:21,325
send each of them a link, and
yes, I
do copy and paste, but

444
00:24:21,325 --> 00:24:25,780
I try to come up with like three
or four
different messages to

445
00:24:25,780 --> 00:24:28,540
them, right?
So, just to make it a
little

446
00:24:28,540 --> 00:24:32,050
more personal, and I ask them to
come join us, and we get
a

447
00:24:32,050 --> 00:24:34,132
great turnout.
Now, of course, we're not going

448
00:24:34,132 --> 00:24:38,210
to get hundreds
of people, but
we do end up getting a few dozen

449
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:41,092
people that
show up with
virtually no other promotion

450
00:24:41,092 --> 00:24:45,578
other than reaching
out to the
community one person at a time,

451
00:24:45,578 --> 00:24:47,890
and it makes all the

difference, especially when

452
00:24:47,890 --> 00:24:51,730
you're doing a live stream and

you can see in real time people

453
00:24:51,730 --> 00:24:54,210
popping in.
It changes my energy
when I

454
00:24:54,210 --> 00:24:57,264
start to see people filing in.
So that's my example.


455
00:24:57,272 --> 00:24:59,945
And by the way, you know, I went
from.

456
00:24:59,945 --> 00:25:02,590
Earlier, when we started
the
show, saying, "Where is our

457
00:25:02,590 --> 00:25:04,426
community?
To now I'm seeing
people.

458
00:25:04,426 --> 00:25:06,559
We've got several people
watching on YouTube.

459
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,980
We've got a
full house here on
Clubhouse.

460
00:25:08,980 --> 00:25:11,269
Thank you all for being here

today.

461
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:13,510
So, is any Sid Meadows: Mark,
can I add
into this?

462
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:14,290
Marc Ronick: Yeah, go ahead,

Sid.

463
00:25:14,290 --> 00:25:17,260
Sid Meadows: Sorry, I think

indications for me that you're

464
00:25:17,260 --> 00:25:21,010
really building a community is

whether it's a text message, the

465
00:25:21,010 --> 00:25:23,500
one that have my cell phone

number or LinkedIn message or

466
00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:28,690
even a comment when they say

love the show, love the episode,

467
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,650
want more content like this or

like one I got two days ago.

468
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,430
Great episode, I want to

introduce you to someone that I

469
00:25:36,430 --> 00:25:39,280
think would be a great guest on
your show, so when they're like

470
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,820
taking a role in who they want

to hear on your show, and like

471
00:25:42,850 --> 00:25:46,614
suggesting people, that's a huge

sign you'd have a loyal,

472
00:25:46,614 --> 00:25:49,444
almost raving fan when they're
saying,
'Hey, interview these

473
00:25:49,444 --> 00:25:53,410
people, and somebody who's 90%

interview, I appreciate

474
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:55,870
introductions to potential

guests.

475
00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:59,560
Marc Ronick: Oh, yeah, yeah, I

mean, and yeah, that's that's

476
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,020
how we're doing it with this

show, like Ralph said earlier,

477
00:26:02,050 --> 00:26:03,718
right.
We're just having, making


478
00:26:03,726 --> 00:26:07,210
those connections, and then,
yeah, inviting people into your

479
00:26:07,210 --> 00:26:11,140
world, or having people invited
into your world based on your


480
00:26:11,148 --> 00:26:11,740
answer.
Yeah.

481
00:26:11,740 --> 00:26:13,580
Thank you, Sid.
Appreciate that.

482
00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:19,066
You know, this
feels to me
like a place to lead into that

483
00:26:19,066 --> 00:26:21,484
framework that I was
talking
to you guys about earlier,

484
00:26:21,484 --> 00:26:24,362
because I do also, by
the way,
want to save a little bit of

485
00:26:24,362 --> 00:26:27,423
time to share our wins
from
this past week, like we do every

486
00:26:27,423 --> 00:26:29,488
Friday.
So, let's do that.


487
00:26:29,496 --> 00:26:33,720
Let's shift from the bigger idea
of community into something


488
00:26:33,728 --> 00:26:36,908
practical.
It's easy to say build community

489
00:26:36,908 --> 00:26:41,419
around your
podcast, but what,
what does that actually mean,

490
00:26:41,419 --> 00:26:43,182
right?
What
do you do?

491
00:26:43,182 --> 00:26:46,267
Where do you start?
And we're starting to hit on


492
00:26:46,275 --> 00:26:49,342
some of those things.
How do you make people feel

493
00:26:49,342 --> 00:26:52,678
involved
without turning it
into another overwhelming job on

494
00:26:52,678 --> 00:26:56,230
your list?

So I want to share the five step

495
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:59,590
framework that I've used and

that I shared at Podfest, and

496
00:26:59,590 --> 00:27:02,260
look, this is something that

I've used sometimes

497
00:27:02,410 --> 00:27:06,220
intentionally, sometimes by

really realizing it later,

498
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,950
because it took something like

doing a presentation at Pod Fest

499
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,730
to force me into thinking, what
are those unintentional things

500
00:27:15,730 --> 00:27:18,850
that I've been doing that work

well, that's helped us build

501
00:27:18,850 --> 00:27:22,540
what we've built here at the

Podcasting Morning Show, so

502
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:25,030
here's that five step framework.



503
00:27:25,038 --> 00:27:29,875
It starts with embed before you
lead, and we'll get into the


504
00:27:29,883 --> 00:27:31,510
details.
Embed before you lead.

505
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:35,048
Number two, notice who the

regulars are.

506
00:27:35,048 --> 00:27:38,671
Number three, invite them into
this world that
you've

507
00:27:38,671 --> 00:27:41,438
created.
Number four is elevate them

508
00:27:41,438 --> 00:27:44,577
publicly.
I'll
explain, cut, and then

509
00:27:44,577 --> 00:27:48,830
lastly cut what you don't need.
So I
want to go through these

510
00:27:48,830 --> 00:27:52,716
one at a time, but I don't want
this to
become a big lecture,

511
00:27:52,716 --> 00:27:55,044
so I'll explain each step
briefly.

512
00:27:55,044 --> 00:28:00,090
Then
I want to open it up to
the room and hear how this show,

513
00:28:00,090 --> 00:28:03,746
how this
shows up in your
podcast, your community, your

514
00:28:03,746 --> 00:28:06,884
audience, or
even communities
that you've been a part of

515
00:28:06,884 --> 00:28:08,488
doesn't
necessarily even have
to be your community.

516
00:28:08,488 --> 00:28:11,080
It can be something
that
you've noticed from others.

517
00:28:11,380 --> 00:28:14,228
So, first, like I said, embed

before you lead.

518
00:28:14,228 --> 00:28:17,295
Before leading your own
community, show up


519
00:28:17,303 --> 00:28:20,176
meaningfully in other spaces,
not yours.

520
00:28:20,176 --> 00:28:22,354
I'm not talking about
your
space.

521
00:28:22,354 --> 00:28:26,324
Answer people's questions, cheer
people on,
support people, and

522
00:28:26,324 --> 00:28:29,550
become known through your
contributions in
that

523
00:28:29,550 --> 00:28:32,542
community.
So, I'm curious, where you all

524
00:28:32,542 --> 00:28:36,220
have shown up
consistently
before trying to lead your own

525
00:28:36,220 --> 00:28:38,530
space.
I want to
hear about what

526
00:28:38,530 --> 00:28:42,220
those communities are, who those

communities are, and like I

527
00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:44,488
said, where you're showing up

consistently.

528
00:28:44,488 --> 00:28:46,960
Who would like to share?
Go ahead, Ralph.

529
00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:48,341
Ralph Estep Jr: Well, I will

do..

530
00:28:48,341 --> 00:28:50,440
I will say this.
One of the things that I did

531
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,239
when I first
got started in
podcasting, and this isn't a

532
00:28:53,239 --> 00:28:55,386
plug for Dave
Jackson, but
it's going to sound like it.

533
00:28:55,386 --> 00:28:58,660
I joined the school of

podcasting, and I really took a

534
00:28:58,660 --> 00:29:01,600
genuine interest in that

community, and when people would

535
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,150
post something, when people

would be involved in something,

536
00:29:04,150 --> 00:29:07,146
if he had a party for listening
to a show, I took an interest

537
00:29:07,146 --> 00:29:11,140
in that, and it really helped
grow
my influence, because

538
00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:12,897
then they're like, "Well, who's
this
guy, Ralph?

539
00:29:12,897 --> 00:29:15,416
What does Ralph do?
And I was supporting them, and I

540
00:29:15,416 --> 00:29:18,540

would reach out to him and
say, "Hey, can I help you with


541
00:29:18,548 --> 00:29:20,346
anything?
And I didn't know about this

542
00:29:20,346 --> 00:29:23,044
community at the
time, so it
was that was the community I was

543
00:29:23,044 --> 00:29:25,900
going to, but I
think that's
the thing that all of us can do.

544
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:27,265
I do the same
thing on
LinkedIn.

545
00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:31,074
I go to LinkedIn every day, and
I take
about 15 minutes of my

546
00:29:31,074 --> 00:29:34,228
time, and I go find an
independent or DIY
podcaster,

547
00:29:34,228 --> 00:29:36,964
and I just reach out to him,
saying, "Hey, I checked
out

548
00:29:36,964 --> 00:29:39,185
your stuff, and I take an
interest, I actually go check


549
00:29:39,193 --> 00:29:42,657
their stuff out, and I build
that one by one, and that has


550
00:29:42,665 --> 00:29:45,670
really worked significantly well
for me to get to be known in the

551
00:29:45,670 --> 00:29:47,350

community.
Marc Ronick: Thank you, Ralph,


552
00:29:47,358 --> 00:29:49,114
appreciate that.
And we have some of our

553
00:29:49,114 --> 00:29:51,126
community members
that want to
chime in.

554
00:29:51,126 --> 00:29:54,276
I'm going to go to april 1,
who's on the
Clubhouse stage,

555
00:29:54,276 --> 00:29:57,040
and she's watching on YouTube.
And then
I'm going to check in

556
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,474
with you, Gabe.
So, first, April, go for
it.

557
00:29:59,474 --> 00:30:01,922
Good morning.
April: Good morning, everyone.


558
00:30:01,930 --> 00:30:07,918
So, for me, what I'm going to be
doing on my future what I call


559
00:30:07,926 --> 00:30:13,294
vodcasts is to bring on people
who are tribe leaders, as I call

560
00:30:13,294 --> 00:30:16,708

them, who have existing
communities who may or may not


561
00:30:16,716 --> 00:30:19,906
know each other.
I give an example, Pat Flynn

562
00:30:19,906 --> 00:30:23,452
knows Chalene
Johnson, but
maybe their people don't know

563
00:30:23,452 --> 00:30:27,600
each other, so
bringing them
on to have a conversation, bring

564
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,825
on their
community members to
get them introduced to each

565
00:30:31,825 --> 00:30:36,010
other, get
them engaging would
be win-win for each of them, as

566
00:30:36,010 --> 00:30:39,019
well as for
myself, because
then people will will get to

567
00:30:39,019 --> 00:30:41,740
know me from their

communities, so we all share the

568
00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:45,190
love, Marc Ronick: I like that,
so
it's almost the approach is

569
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:49,180
almost like connecting two

communities and building them

570
00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:53,080
into, or at least encouraging

them into yours by connecting

571
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,478
those two.
I love that idea.

572
00:30:54,478 --> 00:30:58,640
I
think that's awesome, and I
think you can do that with big


573
00:30:58,648 --> 00:31:02,475
communities like Shaylene and
Pat has, or you could do that


574
00:31:02,483 --> 00:31:04,698
with small communities just the
same, so yeah.

575
00:31:04,698 --> 00:31:07,420
D.R., you want to
chime in,
and then we'll go to Gabe.

576
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:10,755
D.R.
Fay: Yeah, so before it
closed

577
00:31:10,755 --> 00:31:16,240
down, I was a pretty active
member in a podcasting


578
00:31:16,248 --> 00:31:21,390
producers group, or podcasting
managers group, and the leader


579
00:31:21,398 --> 00:31:26,251
of it has it stemmed from a
course that I took, of course.


580
00:31:26,259 --> 00:31:27,675
You know, whatever.
Marc Ronick: Of course, you


581
00:31:27,683 --> 00:31:31,379
take, D.R.
Fay: and it became a very


582
00:31:31,387 --> 00:31:35,380
lively Facebook group that I was
very, very much involved in, and

583
00:31:35,380 --> 00:31:39,770

it got to the point where
people were seeking me out for

584
00:31:39,770 --> 00:31:44,266
answers
if they had a
question, and it did so much for

585
00:31:44,266 --> 00:31:48,052
my, I don't want
to say ego,
but it kind of validated, oh

586
00:31:48,052 --> 00:31:51,226
yeah, I do know
this stuff,
you know, sometimes you don't

587
00:31:51,226 --> 00:31:54,628
know what you don't
know, you
know, and I actually did know

588
00:31:54,628 --> 00:31:58,390
this stuff, and it kind
of was
so ingrained in me that I didn't

589
00:31:58,390 --> 00:32:02,113
realize that I was
helping
people, so the leader of that

590
00:32:02,113 --> 00:32:07,617
group has decided to go
back
to shut down the course, go back

591
00:32:07,617 --> 00:32:13,732
into the agency kind of
life,
and so Mark, you and I have kind

592
00:32:13,732 --> 00:32:17,790
of developed this
other
Facebook group that is stemming

593
00:32:17,790 --> 00:32:23,835
from that Podcast Pros
2.0 and
we're trying to get that going,

594
00:32:23,835 --> 00:32:26,584
and I think we have a
pretty
good start on it, actually.

595
00:32:26,584 --> 00:32:31,345
So, yeah, I'm so
pleased that
we've got that going, and that

596
00:32:31,345 --> 00:32:35,308
we can continue
those strategy
calls, although we haven't done

597
00:32:35,308 --> 00:32:39,454
one for a couple
weeks, but I
am so happy to keep that going.

598
00:32:39,454 --> 00:32:41,350
Thank you for
helping me with
that, Mark.

599
00:32:41,380 --> 00:32:43,434
Marc Ronick: You're welcome.
And
that's, that's actually

600
00:32:43,434 --> 00:32:48,036
really an interesting part,
which it
kind of leads into

601
00:32:48,036 --> 00:32:51,360
it's somewhat like notice the
regulars, which
was step two,

602
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,552
but it, because I think DR. I
noticed two things
that you

603
00:32:55,552 --> 00:32:57,362
did from rebuilding that
community.

604
00:32:57,362 --> 00:33:01,294
One was I
noticed that you
reached out to some of those

605
00:33:01,294 --> 00:33:04,406
individuals that
you got to
know a little bit through the

606
00:33:04,406 --> 00:33:08,126
original community,
and you
asked them to be a part of what

607
00:33:08,126 --> 00:33:12,244
you were building now,
right?
And then you also reached out to

608
00:33:12,244 --> 00:33:16,720
me, somebody that you
know
that builds communities, and you

609
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,720
asked for help, can you
help
lead this with me?

610
00:33:19,930 --> 00:33:20,896
D.R.
Fay: Yeah, Marc Ronick: right.

611
00:33:20,896 --> 00:33:23,547
And I think
that these are all
important steps to pay attention

612
00:33:23,547 --> 00:33:27,156
to,
because they really do
make a big difference for us

613
00:33:27,156 --> 00:33:30,910
leading
these communities.
It helps us a great deal by

614
00:33:30,910 --> 00:33:33,610
bringing in other
people.
Yeah, yeah.

615
00:33:33,610 --> 00:33:38,460
Thank you, DR. Appreciate that.
Let's go to
Gabe, and then I

616
00:33:38,460 --> 00:33:41,050
know Janae wants to chime in,
and some
people have been

617
00:33:41,050 --> 00:33:43,916
chiming in on the different
chats, so we'll
try to get to

618
00:33:43,916 --> 00:33:45,460
those as well.
Go ahead, Gabe.

619
00:33:45,460 --> 00:33:47,510
Good morning.
Gabe: Good morning, everybody.


620
00:33:47,518 --> 00:33:50,770
So one of the things that I've
learned, Mark, that you kind of

621
00:33:50,770 --> 00:33:53,059
just covered the five steps,
the secret everybody can

622
00:33:53,059 --> 00:33:56,332
actually
use to build a
community, but a lot for me is

623
00:33:56,332 --> 00:33:59,362
doing what I'm
doing now is
showing up constantly, like

624
00:33:59,362 --> 00:34:03,922
taking in all
the input that
everybody shares, like see all

625
00:34:03,922 --> 00:34:07,369
the wonders and
magic that
everybody seeing their gifts and

626
00:34:07,369 --> 00:34:10,378
talents, and
then open up
about it, and let them express

627
00:34:10,378 --> 00:34:13,330
it, and then
getting to know
each individual.

628
00:34:13,690 --> 00:34:17,469
I haven't said anything since

I've been here, but part of it

629
00:34:17,469 --> 00:34:20,679
has been learning about

everybody, going watching

630
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:23,620
everybody go check out their

socials, go check out what they

631
00:34:23,620 --> 00:34:27,100
do, listen to their podcast,

like really get to learn the

632
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:30,670
person, because I'm feeling that

that's part of the best way to

633
00:34:30,670 --> 00:34:34,179
not only build community, but I
love building relationships,

634
00:34:34,179 --> 00:34:37,810
and you know, Ralph even made

mention of it, like going on to

635
00:34:37,810 --> 00:34:41,413
LinkedIn, I mean, I've spent my
majority of my time on

636
00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:44,522
LinkedIn, I used to do an
everyday live
stream.

637
00:34:44,522 --> 00:34:47,870
I built, I've built communities,
but it all starts
by quietly

638
00:34:47,870 --> 00:34:51,719
going in and saying, let me see
the value and the
people

639
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,427
first, and then start from
there.

640
00:34:53,427 --> 00:34:56,770
So, just wanted to
share, I
love it where you guys do here,

641
00:34:56,770 --> 00:34:59,813
like that's why I wrote
the
post that I did, because I don't

642
00:34:59,813 --> 00:35:02,554
endorse.
Or show up to
things unless I

643
00:35:02,554 --> 00:35:05,960
feel it really does bring some
kind of value to
myself and to

644
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,530
the others that I share it to,
so thank you for
letting me

645
00:35:08,530 --> 00:35:10,345
share.
Marc Ronick: Thank you, Gabe.


646
00:35:10,353 --> 00:35:13,495
You had a lot of people flashing
emojis of approval while you


647
00:35:13,503 --> 00:35:15,892
were sharing that.
I think that's an important one,

648
00:35:15,892 --> 00:35:18,935
and I
think that's similar to
what Jessica was sharing in the

649
00:35:18,935 --> 00:35:21,666
clubhouse chat.
She said that I started building

650
00:35:21,666 --> 00:35:24,616
relationships
with local
charities, similar but not quite

651
00:35:24,616 --> 00:35:26,449
the same.
I
admittedly kind of browsed

652
00:35:26,449 --> 00:35:28,942
it before I read it.
I started by
building

653
00:35:28,942 --> 00:35:31,248
relationships with local
charities and establishing


654
00:35:31,256 --> 00:35:34,588
book clubs rooted in connection
and conversation.

655
00:35:34,588 --> 00:35:38,632
Transitioning
into podcasting
felt natural because the trust

656
00:35:38,632 --> 00:35:41,708
was already
there.
That's so huge, Jessica, and

657
00:35:41,708 --> 00:35:44,614
again, Gabe, so is your
share,
and I think the combination here

658
00:35:44,614 --> 00:35:47,530
is a really
important one to
highlight.

659
00:35:47,650 --> 00:35:50,869
Sometimes we put the cart before

the horse, right?

660
00:35:50,869 --> 00:35:54,865
We start the podcast and expect
the community
to build, and it

661
00:35:54,865 --> 00:35:56,848
can.
I'm not saying it can't, right,

662
00:35:56,848 --> 00:36:01,408
but for
some of us that might
be harder than for others, and I

663
00:36:01,408 --> 00:36:04,922
think
establishing real
community, meaning real life

664
00:36:04,922 --> 00:36:07,948
community,
in-person
community, and connecting with

665
00:36:07,948 --> 00:36:12,472
people in the
real world can
then translate into growing your

666
00:36:12,472 --> 00:36:15,490
podcast,
growing your social
media, et cetera.

667
00:36:15,490 --> 00:36:19,427
So, getting out there
and
networking, I think, can go a

668
00:36:19,427 --> 00:36:23,470
long way, and yeah, if you can

build some community outside of

669
00:36:23,470 --> 00:36:26,743
the internet, I think that that
can then come and translate

670
00:36:26,743 --> 00:36:30,313
over into your podcast whenever
you
get that started.

671
00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:32,775
Janae, I know you wanted to
chime in too.

672
00:36:32,775 --> 00:36:34,210
You
want to, you want to
share.

673
00:36:34,810 --> 00:36:36,660
Junaid: Morning, everyone.
Yes,
I do.

674
00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:40,818
Mark, and you, this is such a
powerful conversation,
because

675
00:36:40,818 --> 00:36:46,075
our communities is what helps us
grow from where we are,
and I

676
00:36:46,075 --> 00:36:49,702
stepped into all of this barely
eight years ago, right?

677
00:36:49,702 --> 00:36:54,130
I
wasn't a podcaster, I wasn't
anything, and I embedded myself

678
00:36:54,130 --> 00:36:57,585
into, okay, starting a podcast,
joining these podcast


679
00:36:57,593 --> 00:37:00,496
communities.
The first one that I was part of

680
00:37:00,496 --> 00:37:04,410
was Anchor FM, and
I met so
many people in there, and that

681
00:37:04,410 --> 00:37:07,384
led me to
unconventional
leaders, and it just so happened

682
00:37:07,384 --> 00:37:11,892
that we had
this pandemic, and
if it wasn't for the leader to

683
00:37:11,892 --> 00:37:16,510
lead these
calls every single
day, where we get to come in and

684
00:37:16,510 --> 00:37:20,059
embed
ourselves, you know, be
present, I wouldn't be where I

685
00:37:20,059 --> 00:37:23,767
am today,
so it all comes down
to who's leading the community.

686
00:37:23,767 --> 00:37:27,349
How much
facilitating are they
doing to bring the people

687
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:30,568
together, and
that's really,
you know, where you mentioned

688
00:37:30,568 --> 00:37:33,940
first being a,
you're
embedding yourself into the

689
00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:35,560
community, getting to know
the
people.

690
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,045
Marc Ronick: Janae, I'm curious,

from you, how do you describe

691
00:37:40,045 --> 00:37:42,730
a powerful or strong community

leader.

692
00:37:42,730 --> 00:37:47,500
What is it that you notice about
a leader that draws
you to

693
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:49,795
them?
And I know that's a tough

694
00:37:49,795 --> 00:37:52,804
question.
Junaid: You know, the one thing

695
00:37:52,804 --> 00:37:58,090
that a strong community leader
does is they're vulnerable, they

696
00:37:58,090 --> 00:38:02,800

share every single thing that
they're going through, and that

697
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,988
comes at a huge cost, because
not everybody is able to share


698
00:38:06,996 --> 00:38:10,276
that kind of messaging.
The entire story, the entire


699
00:38:10,284 --> 00:38:14,470
journey, that it's all shows you
that you know this person is a


700
00:38:14,478 --> 00:38:16,720
nice person, this person is
somebody who cares.

701
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:20,530
And I saw
the same thing with
you, I saw the same thing with

702
00:38:20,530 --> 00:38:23,926
Heather, I
saw the same thing
with others that I've been in

703
00:38:23,926 --> 00:38:26,413
communities
with Gabe, you
know, Brian Shulman's

704
00:38:26,413 --> 00:38:31,300
communities like these
are
powerful, very down to earth

705
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:33,790
people, heart centered

entrepreneurs, is what we call

706
00:38:33,790 --> 00:38:36,520
them, right, and that's

something that that

707
00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:40,390
automatically just clicks in

your heart, hey, this is a real

708
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:44,230
person versus somebody who's

just posturing and creating, you

709
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:47,170
know, showing up, or you know,

maybe they're going through a

710
00:38:47,170 --> 00:38:49,090
journey, maybe they're going

through a phase where they

711
00:38:49,090 --> 00:38:53,209
haven't crossed over the bridge
yet, and choices as well.

712
00:38:53,209 --> 00:38:56,104
Thank you, Marc Ronick: thank
you, Junaid,
I appreciate

713
00:38:56,104 --> 00:38:58,579
that.
So, just help, help keep me

714
00:38:58,579 --> 00:39:00,274
straight
here.
Did we go?

715
00:39:00,274 --> 00:39:04,848
Are we still on embedded embed
yourself into the
community,

716
00:39:04,848 --> 00:39:08,219
other communities?
Sorry, wow, words, yes, don't do

717
00:39:08,219 --> 00:39:11,680

it, don't do it.
All right, do Jingle: it.

718
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,800
Coffee's hot, brain
is not,
mouth says glory.

719
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,368
And guess I forgot, words are
hard
in the morning.

720
00:39:18,368 --> 00:39:22,970
Did I say that out loud?
Marc Ronick: Have we moved on to

721
00:39:22,970 --> 00:39:24,280

step two?
Notice the regulars.

722
00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:26,515
Did I move?
I don't think so.


723
00:39:26,523 --> 00:39:29,650
So, noticing the regulars, that
means to pay attention to the


724
00:39:29,658 --> 00:39:33,360
people who keep showing up, the
ones that are engaging, that are

725
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,165

helping other people in the
community, or responding to your

726
00:39:37,165 --> 00:39:41,398

posts, or things that you're
talking about on your podcast,


727
00:39:41,406 --> 00:39:45,115
contributing without needing to
be pushed, these are the


728
00:39:45,123 --> 00:39:49,510
regulars that I think it's
important to pause, like Ralph


729
00:39:49,518 --> 00:39:53,470
does, like others have
explained, pause and reach out


730
00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:57,094
to them, thank them, communicate
with them, acknowledge them,


731
00:39:57,102 --> 00:39:59,830
right, and I'm just going to
keep things.

732
00:39:59,830 --> 00:40:03,748
Moving, for sake of
time, for
a second, and move to the next

733
00:40:03,748 --> 00:40:06,407
prompt, which is
elevating
them publicly.

734
00:40:06,407 --> 00:40:09,428
Okay, so they're the regulars,
they've
proven that they're in

735
00:40:09,428 --> 00:40:12,988
this with you.
Then it's time to elevate


736
00:40:12,996 --> 00:40:16,915
them, recognize them publicly
out loud on your podcast,


737
00:40:16,923 --> 00:40:21,305
mention their names, highlight
wins, point to people as leaders

738
00:40:21,305 --> 00:40:25,865

and show the community what
contribution looks like, and I


739
00:40:25,873 --> 00:40:30,545
look not to toot my own horn,
but that's exactly what we do


740
00:40:30,553 --> 00:40:32,464
here, all of those things,
right?

741
00:40:32,464 --> 00:40:35,509
I've identified leaders,
the
people that you see on Clubhouse

742
00:40:35,509 --> 00:40:39,730
here with the green
beans by
their names, that meaning that

743
00:40:39,730 --> 00:40:42,796
they're co-hosts,
that they're
moderators, these were all

744
00:40:42,796 --> 00:40:48,236
people that were
listeners
first, that I just recognize as

745
00:40:48,236 --> 00:40:52,969
people who had a
lot of value,
who believe in what I'm trying

746
00:40:52,969 --> 00:40:57,352
to do here, and
they're also
echoing what I'm trying to do

747
00:40:57,352 --> 00:41:02,206
here, so it's so
important to
have people to let people be

748
00:41:02,206 --> 00:41:06,644
seen, show that who
they are,
recognize them, and if anybody

749
00:41:06,644 --> 00:41:10,255
has examples or
contributions
they want to add, as I rattle

750
00:41:10,255 --> 00:41:12,700
through these five
steps,
because I promised you I would,

751
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:15,670
you're what, more than

welcome, but yes, okay, so

752
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:20,920
elevating people publicly is

your third step, or fourth, let

753
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,592
me make sure of that.
Did I just
do three?

754
00:41:22,592 --> 00:41:26,240
I don't know, I've lost track.
Embed notice, invite
them in.

755
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:29,048
Yes, that's right.
And then elevate them publicly.

756
00:41:29,048 --> 00:41:29,878

That's number four.

757
00:41:29,878 --> 00:41:32,734
And number five, cut what you
don't need.


758
00:41:32,742 --> 00:41:36,638
Now, this isn't necessarily
directly related to building the

759
00:41:36,638 --> 00:41:38,970

community, but it's indirectly
related.

760
00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:43,521
You need, I believe
what
worked for me was to simplify,

761
00:41:43,521 --> 00:41:48,982
let go of some of the
tactics,
like the constant promotions and

762
00:41:48,982 --> 00:41:52,792
the extra efforts
that don't
actually build the connection.

763
00:41:52,792 --> 00:41:57,424
Focus on something
that Gabe
was saying, I believe it was

764
00:41:57,424 --> 00:42:02,260
Gabe showing up
consistently,
focus on supporting, focus on

765
00:42:02,260 --> 00:42:05,860
being more
involved, and
elevating people.

766
00:42:06,490 --> 00:42:09,970
I'm not saying throw out all of
your tactics, throw out all of

767
00:42:09,970 --> 00:42:15,280
your strategies, and just focus
on this, but identify some of

768
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,580
the things that feel like

they're weighing you down and

769
00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:23,470
put them aside and put that

effort instead into building out

770
00:42:23,470 --> 00:42:27,100
this community, because again,

going back to the top of the

771
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:29,590
show, and some of the things we
were sharing, that's where you

772
00:42:29,590 --> 00:42:32,920
start getting more of that

positive feedback, more of that,

773
00:42:33,130 --> 00:42:36,220
wow, this made such a

difference, you've changed my

774
00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:40,240
life, Ralph, right, like that

one that you got, and it's so

775
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:44,590
much more rewarding than just

grinding all the time to try to

776
00:42:44,590 --> 00:42:47,012
get those growth strategies to

work for you.

777
00:42:47,012 --> 00:42:51,337
Those are the five steps I think
that this is a
good spot to

778
00:42:51,337 --> 00:42:55,718
switch some gears here, but if
anybody has any
final thoughts

779
00:42:55,718 --> 00:42:59,760
just around that or around
building community, I
want to

780
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,695
hear about it.
If not, oh Lindsay: yeah, I

781
00:43:02,695 --> 00:43:05,290
have..
I do Marc Ronick: so sorry,

782
00:43:05,290 --> 00:43:08,160
Lindsay,
I forgot I saw you
come up, and then I totally lost

783
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,332
you because
you're below the
fold on my screen, so yeah,

784
00:43:11,332 --> 00:43:14,689
please chime
in, Lindsay.
Good morning, Lindsay: yeah, no

785
00:43:14,689 --> 00:43:17,233
worries at
all, and it's
perfect timing always.

786
00:43:17,233 --> 00:43:22,030
So I love this
conversation,
and one thing I also wanted to

787
00:43:22,030 --> 00:43:26,024
really mix into
the space,
especially for those that are

788
00:43:26,024 --> 00:43:30,484
sitting on the cusp of,
like,
do I create a podcast, what do I

789
00:43:30,484 --> 00:43:33,694
talk about on a
podcast, all
of those things, and so one

790
00:43:33,694 --> 00:43:37,704
thing that I think
most people
with communities don't consider

791
00:43:37,704 --> 00:43:41,848
is starting a
podcast, so for
instance, Wellness Warrior

792
00:43:41,848 --> 00:43:46,300
Collective has
existed for 12
years, the podcast only for

793
00:43:46,300 --> 00:43:50,242
four, because
the Wellness
Warrior podcast was created to

794
00:43:50,242 --> 00:43:54,190
nurture the community
that was
already cultivated, and so I do

795
00:43:54,190 --> 00:43:56,004
believe you can do it
both
ways.

796
00:43:56,004 --> 00:43:59,184
There isn't a right way, start
with one and do the
other.

797
00:43:59,184 --> 00:44:02,566
However, I did want to bring
into this conversation
that if

798
00:44:02,566 --> 00:44:05,854
you already are in a community
and you're serving and
you

799
00:44:05,854 --> 00:44:07,753
love what you're talking about,
lean in.

800
00:44:07,753 --> 00:44:10,000
So that's what I
wanted to
throw in.

801
00:44:11,020 --> 00:44:13,450
Marc Ronick: Thank you.
And that
really translates to

802
00:44:13,450 --> 00:44:17,492
a community when you lean in to
your
content, to your

803
00:44:17,492 --> 00:44:21,739
community, they pick up on that
so much, the
passion comes

804
00:44:21,739 --> 00:44:24,844
through, and if you're just kind
of going
through the motions,

805
00:44:24,844 --> 00:44:29,906
or you're feeling like you're in
a grind
and not really feeling

806
00:44:29,906 --> 00:44:33,802
it, that translates, and that's
where you
start to lose

807
00:44:33,802 --> 00:44:36,835
listeners, you start to lose
community members.


808
00:44:36,843 --> 00:44:39,886
So, it's important to follow
that passion.

809
00:44:39,886 --> 00:44:42,154
I appreciate that,
Lindsay, so
much.

810
00:44:42,154 --> 00:44:48,520
Thank you.
Let's do it.

811
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,480
Wins from the week.

Today is the day that we all

812
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,460
stop and celebrate with one

another.

813
00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:58,417
Something that's gone on this
week that's worth
stopping and

814
00:44:58,417 --> 00:45:01,525
celebrating, stopping and smell.
The roses,
if you will.

815
00:45:01,525 --> 00:45:04,330
I think that sometimes, again,
going back to
this

816
00:45:04,330 --> 00:45:07,932
conversation about getting stuck
in a grind, I think that
it's

817
00:45:07,932 --> 00:45:11,278
important to have these moments
where we stop and
recognize

818
00:45:11,278 --> 00:45:14,824
that we're doing it right, and,
like, I've, like, I
always

819
00:45:14,824 --> 00:45:18,315
say, if doing it is just getting
out of bed every morning
this

820
00:45:18,315 --> 00:45:21,210
week, because it's been a really
hard week, that's worth


821
00:45:21,218 --> 00:45:25,180
celebrating too, so let's do it.
And I noticed that Roy has


822
00:45:25,188 --> 00:45:27,613
joined us from the audience up
here on stage.

823
00:45:27,613 --> 00:45:30,222
Roy, I'm going to
jump the
line for a second and ask, did

824
00:45:30,222 --> 00:45:33,884
you come up because you
want
to share a win or did you want

825
00:45:33,884 --> 00:45:36,220
to add something to the

community conversation?

826
00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:40,180
Roy: Yeah, hey Mark, I did want
to add to the community

827
00:45:40,210 --> 00:45:42,790
conversation, if that's okay.

Sure.

828
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:47,277
Thank you.
Yes, so I see it as having an

829
00:45:47,277 --> 00:45:50,436
audience, a
network, or a
community, and there's a

830
00:45:50,436 --> 00:45:53,653
difference, and a lot
of
people confuse the three.

831
00:45:53,653 --> 00:46:00,002
So, an audience is you to them,
a
network is them to you, but

832
00:46:00,002 --> 00:46:04,990
a community is them to them or

them to each other, and I don't

833
00:46:04,990 --> 00:46:08,263
think that earlier the question
was asked of what makes a

834
00:46:08,263 --> 00:46:10,135
strong community community
leader.

835
00:46:10,135 --> 00:46:16,302
So I
believe that a strong
community leader is someone who

836
00:46:16,302 --> 00:46:20,470
can
facilitate their members
connecting with each other, and

837
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:25,252
I see a lot of Facebook groups,
and now a lot of school groups,

838
00:46:25,252 --> 00:46:30,232
and I guess wherever there are
groups that gather that the


839
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:35,975
leader, the owner, the host is
so fearful, I think that's the


840
00:46:35,983 --> 00:46:40,570
word of people connecting with
one another because of blank and

841
00:46:40,570 --> 00:46:44,350

April, and I have heard it.
April's my wife.

842
00:46:44,410 --> 00:46:47,715
Marc Ronick: Okay, Roy: she all
didn't know what -
what

843
00:46:47,715 --> 00:46:49,810
happens is they..
I don't know.

844
00:46:49,810 --> 00:46:53,110
It's, it's, it's weird,

because if you go to their

845
00:46:53,110 --> 00:46:54,640
event, they don't say anything.


846
00:46:54,648 --> 00:46:58,135
It's like, yeah, you can connect
with each other, that's their


847
00:46:58,143 --> 00:47:00,469
community.
You can give me your calendar

848
00:47:00,469 --> 00:47:04,194
link, you can slide
into my
DM, but when it's virtual, like

849
00:47:04,194 --> 00:47:08,136
a Facebook group
or a school
group, they don't allow it.

850
00:47:08,136 --> 00:47:10,750
No poaching, yeah, no

blanking.

851
00:47:10,750 --> 00:47:14,805
And I, for one, want to do
something about it.

852
00:47:14,805 --> 00:47:18,556
So,
April and I are going to
lead the brigade, so to speak,

853
00:47:18,556 --> 00:47:22,315
and
let people know that the
strength of your community is


854
00:47:22,323 --> 00:47:26,845
when they connect with each
other, when they can do that,


855
00:47:26,853 --> 00:47:30,502
post their calendar links, DM
people in the right way, of


856
00:47:30,510 --> 00:47:32,230
course.
You know, not to promote, "Hey,

857
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:34,738
you want to buy
my product?
"Hey, you want to buy my

858
00:47:34,738 --> 00:47:36,690
service?
Not like that,
but, "Hey, do

859
00:47:36,690 --> 00:47:39,862
you want to get on a call
together, see what we
have in

860
00:47:39,862 --> 00:47:41,176
common?
Let's record it, because April

861
00:47:41,176 --> 00:47:43,510
and Roy want that.

Put it on YouTube, give them the

862
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:45,794
link, and if it's good enough,

they'll share it.

863
00:47:45,794 --> 00:47:49,030
So, anyway, Mark, I just wanted
to be an
advocate and share

864
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:52,858
community members to community
members,
that makes a strong

865
00:47:52,858 --> 00:47:56,040
leader of a community, in my
humble opinion.


866
00:47:56,048 --> 00:47:58,291
Thanks for the opportunity.
Yeah, Marc Ronick: you're

867
00:47:58,291 --> 00:47:59,470
welcome.

Thank you for that share.

868
00:47:59,470 --> 00:48:02,830
Actually, a beautiful way to

really close up that particular

869
00:48:02,860 --> 00:48:06,370
segment, so thank you, Roy.
And
I would have a lot more to

870
00:48:06,370 --> 00:48:09,110
say, but I want to make sure
that we
get to anybody who

871
00:48:09,110 --> 00:48:12,596
wants to share their wins.
But what I
will say is, yes,

872
00:48:12,596 --> 00:48:16,544
community to community member is
super
valuable and important

873
00:48:16,544 --> 00:48:20,449
to recognize as a distinction,
and
that's, you know, like

874
00:48:20,449 --> 00:48:24,180
Jessica's here in the audience
right now,
and I believe that

875
00:48:24,180 --> 00:48:27,848
she's here because we made a
connection
outside of the

876
00:48:27,848 --> 00:48:30,000
podcast.
I think that those kinds of

877
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,890
connections
really go a long
way, and yes, there she is,

878
00:48:32,890 --> 00:48:34,780
she's back.

Jessica, I thought I maybe

879
00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:37,260
embarrassed you.
All right, so
listen, since we

880
00:48:37,260 --> 00:48:41,950
are so short on time, if you
have a win to
share, you can

881
00:48:41,950 --> 00:48:45,202
put it in the chat, whatever
chat you're in.


882
00:48:45,210 --> 00:48:48,580
If you're on Clubhouse, I hope
that you'll share it here on


883
00:48:48,588 --> 00:48:50,726
stage, and so many of you are on
stage today.

884
00:48:50,726 --> 00:48:54,262
But first, Ralph,
go ahead,
you can kick us off with any

885
00:48:54,262 --> 00:48:56,621
wins you have.
Ralph Estep Jr: Okay, I got two

886
00:48:56,621 --> 00:48:58,666
big wins.
Number one win is we are in

887
00:48:58,666 --> 00:49:00,406
Grand Sun Watch
officially
now.

888
00:49:00,406 --> 00:49:03,736
The launch date, at the very
least, is going to
be next

889
00:49:03,736 --> 00:49:06,010
Wednesday, but it could be any
moment now.

890
00:49:06,010 --> 00:49:09,700
So, Ralph is
going to be a
proud grandpa here pretty soon.

891
00:49:09,700 --> 00:49:11,860
So, please keep my
family in
your prayers.

892
00:49:11,860 --> 00:49:14,728
There's a little bit of a com..
there's
a little bit of a

893
00:49:14,728 --> 00:49:18,010
medical issue going on, nothing
life-shattering or nothing big

894
00:49:18,010 --> 00:49:19,882
deal, but please keep them in

your pleat.

895
00:49:19,882 --> 00:49:22,822
My, my daughter-in-law, Hunter,
my son,
Ryan, and my future

896
00:49:22,822 --> 00:49:24,592
grandson - they won't give me
the name.

897
00:49:24,592 --> 00:49:26,617
I
think it's going to be
Ralph, but that's okay.

898
00:49:26,617 --> 00:49:30,028
A second big
win for me, and
it's kind of feels like it pales

899
00:49:30,028 --> 00:49:33,412
in
comparison, is I reached
number two on the Christian

900
00:49:33,412 --> 00:49:36,380
Finance
podcast chart.
So, in Christian finance,

901
00:49:36,380 --> 00:49:39,152
Ralph's show,
Financially
Confident Christian, has reached

902
00:49:39,152 --> 00:49:43,159
number two, and that
is a huge
win for me, so thank you

903
00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:45,910
everybody who supported
that,
and that's my wins for this

904
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:47,680
week.
Marc Ronick: Congratulations,


905
00:49:47,688 --> 00:49:50,850
Ralph, and excited for you that
you can be a grandpa.

906
00:49:50,850 --> 00:49:54,424
I feel
like that when that day
comes for me, it's going to feel

907
00:49:54,424 --> 00:49:58,480
very
weird to be able to call
myself a grandpa, that just

908
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,922
doesn't
feel for.
Doesn't feel right, but here we

909
00:50:01,922 --> 00:50:03,070
are.
So,
congratulations, Steve.

910
00:50:03,070 --> 00:50:04,670
Ralph Estep Jr: I got the gray

hairs on the side.

911
00:50:04,670 --> 00:50:07,060
You can't hardly see, because I
try to
cover them up.

912
00:50:09,130 --> 00:50:11,514
Marc Ronick: All right, let's go

to BC.

913
00:50:11,514 --> 00:50:15,010
And then DR. Go ahead, BC.
BC Babbles: All right, two quick

914
00:50:15,010 --> 00:50:16,906

wins.
One, I was very happy to treat

915
00:50:16,906 --> 00:50:21,370
myself to the See the
South
Capitol Summit this earlier this

916
00:50:21,370 --> 00:50:25,144
week, also, despite
the
bipolar mentality that is Lake

917
00:50:25,144 --> 00:50:28,660
Norman weather this time of

year, I got two solid days in

918
00:50:28,660 --> 00:50:30,640
the pool, so I'm Marc Ronick:
gonna go BC Babbles: into the

919
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,641
weekend
happy.
Marc Ronick: Congratulations,


920
00:50:32,649 --> 00:50:35,173
DR. Do you want to share?
D.R.

921
00:50:35,173 --> 00:50:39,242
Fay: Yes, I do have a win

about that.

922
00:50:39,242 --> 00:50:44,760
Okay, so last week we invested a
whole lot of money
to get our

923
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,324
two bathrooms completely
renovated.

924
00:50:46,324 --> 00:50:50,517
Yes, my
husband and I have
separate bathrooms, and yes, we

925
00:50:50,517 --> 00:50:53,890
have
separate TVs.
This is the secret to our 25

926
00:50:53,890 --> 00:50:55,410
year relationship.

Love it.

927
00:50:55,410 --> 00:50:58,651
So, yeah, I have a fully
beautiful bathroom.

928
00:50:58,651 --> 00:51:02,748
It
feels like I'm in a
freaking hotel room.

929
00:51:02,748 --> 00:51:06,130
It is amazing.
So
that's my win.

930
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,223
Marc Ronick: Congratulations.

And I see that Janae just shared

931
00:51:09,285 --> 00:51:12,974
in the chat here that he's

launching Pod Glue in two weeks,

932
00:51:13,036 --> 00:51:16,264
and today heard a new, heard a

new news from Stephen.

933
00:51:16,264 --> 00:51:20,039
I think he meant to say a new
episode
from Steven Bartlett.

934
00:51:20,039 --> 00:51:23,565
At least that's my guest.
Gabe says big
win this week is

935
00:51:23,565 --> 00:51:26,864
his wife is publishing her
chapter in a new
anthology

936
00:51:26,864 --> 00:51:27,887
book.
Very cool.

937
00:51:27,887 --> 00:51:31,337
I want to share mine for a
minute,
if you don't mind.

938
00:51:31,337 --> 00:51:35,309
And I just want to make sure if
anyone else
does, anyone else

939
00:51:35,309 --> 00:51:39,155
have any wins they want to
share, because I
want to make

940
00:51:39,155 --> 00:51:41,470
sure the community gets to,
yeah, Junaid.

941
00:51:41,470 --> 00:51:45,418
Do you
want to add something?
Junaid: Yes, I wanted to update

942
00:51:45,418 --> 00:51:48,160
the news that I heard about
Steven Bartlett.

943
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:53,888
He's recently
raised $425
million from some of the people

944
00:51:53,888 --> 00:51:56,440
that we know, Cody
Sanchez,
and basically what he's

945
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,830
launching is he's calling this

Steven operating system, or it's

946
00:51:59,830 --> 00:52:02,830
the creators operating system,

and when I read this news, I was

947
00:52:02,830 --> 00:52:05,830
like, okay, I've been on the

right track this whole time for

948
00:52:05,830 --> 00:52:09,190
the past six months with

FODGlue, because that's exactly

949
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:10,737
what this is going to be

building.

950
00:52:10,737 --> 00:52:12,835
So I'm super excited that that's
the first signal.

951
00:52:12,835 --> 00:52:16,480
I
wrote a whole article I
could share in the notes about

952
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,734
my
journey in 2014 that when I
saw Instacart raising $44

953
00:52:20,734 --> 00:52:24,721
million I
stopped on an app
that I was building that was

954
00:52:24,721 --> 00:52:27,523
going to do
the same thing
Instacart was doing, and this

955
00:52:27,523 --> 00:52:30,400
time I'm going
full speed
ahead, buddy.

956
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,662
Marc Ronick: Good, good.
I love
it, I love it.

957
00:52:32,662 --> 00:52:34,939
I was wondering where you were
going with that,
because I was

958
00:52:34,939 --> 00:52:38,935
worried that you were going to
be discouraged by
that, and no

959
00:52:38,935 --> 00:52:42,300
need, because you have, you have
the power of a
community

960
00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:45,605
behind you, and I know you have
at least 40 beta
testers

961
00:52:45,605 --> 00:52:49,530
going, and you and I've seen
what you've built, and it
is

962
00:52:49,530 --> 00:52:51,340
amazing.
So, yes, keep going.

963
00:52:51,340 --> 00:52:53,160
Who cares about Stephen

Bartlett?

964
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,066
Doesn't matter, you've got a big
thing coming, and
yeah, it's

965
00:52:57,066 --> 00:52:59,020
worth worth pursuing.
So, congratulations.

966
00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:00,930
D.R.
Fay: Do you need any other


967
00:53:00,938 --> 00:53:03,700
beta testers, because I would
love to get in on that.

968
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,280
Junaid: Always open for new beta

testers.

969
00:53:06,340 --> 00:53:07,912
Marc Ronick: How do we do
Junaid: it?

970
00:53:07,912 --> 00:53:12,235
Go over to
podglu.com for
slash contact, or there's a big

971
00:53:12,235 --> 00:53:16,090
join wait list on
top that you
can click on to join in.

972
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:17,092
Marc Ronick: Awesome, D.R.
Fay: cool.

973
00:53:17,092 --> 00:53:19,240
Thank you.
Marc Ronick: Yeah, thank you,


974
00:53:19,248 --> 00:53:22,130
Junaid.
My win is about being able to

975
00:53:22,130 --> 00:53:26,530
recognize and respect my

priorities in life, as you know,

976
00:53:26,530 --> 00:53:28,132
I shared it at the beginning of
the show.

977
00:53:28,132 --> 00:53:31,072
I've been sharing all week.
My, my wife Amy was


978
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,215
unexpectedly in the hospital
from Saturday to Wednesday, and

979
00:53:35,215 --> 00:53:39,644
at first I found myself
stressing about my day-to-day


980
00:53:39,652 --> 00:53:42,263
life.
Right, what am I going to do

981
00:53:42,263 --> 00:53:45,706
about the show in the
morning?
What am I going to.. what about

982
00:53:45,706 --> 00:53:49,394
the calls I have to
schedule
with my existing and potential

983
00:53:49,394 --> 00:53:53,384
podcasting clients,
and I've
got sponsorship calls for

984
00:53:53,384 --> 00:53:56,140
Empowered Podcasting

Conference that I needed to

985
00:53:56,140 --> 00:54:00,310
attend, like all of this stuff

was weighing on me on Monday,

986
00:54:00,790 --> 00:54:05,470
and then by Monday afternoon I

paused, and I recognized that

987
00:54:05,470 --> 00:54:08,890
all of those things, although

totally important to me and my

988
00:54:08,890 --> 00:54:10,936
business, they can wait, right?


989
00:54:10,944 --> 00:54:13,596
Like those things will still be
there.

990
00:54:13,596 --> 00:54:16,520
I really had to just put
all
of my focus, all of my priority

991
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,739
on my family, on taking
care
of her, on taking care of the

992
00:54:19,739 --> 00:54:22,480
dog, on taking care of the

house and doing all the things,

993
00:54:22,540 --> 00:54:26,088
and also having my parents in to

entertain, try to entertain

994
00:54:26,088 --> 00:54:28,595
them a little bit too, which
they
kept telling me they

995
00:54:28,595 --> 00:54:31,347
don't require any tending to,
but
still I wanted to, you

996
00:54:31,347 --> 00:54:33,608
know, make sure they're having a
good
time too.

997
00:54:33,608 --> 00:54:36,718
So it's important, like, we can
get really wrapped
up in the

998
00:54:36,718 --> 00:54:40,450
grind and wrapped up in all of
the things, and I
think that

999
00:54:40,450 --> 00:54:44,540
we have to do, I had to do a
better job of letting
that

1000
00:54:44,540 --> 00:54:48,602
stuff go this week, and that in
itself is a win, but
it's

1001
00:54:48,602 --> 00:54:52,278
also, again, I have to celebrate
this community as a
win, Ralph

1002
00:54:52,278 --> 00:54:56,605
being a big support, making sure
that we had topics
for the

1003
00:54:56,605 --> 00:54:59,710
week, and even went as far as
creating rundown.

1004
00:54:59,710 --> 00:55:03,710
Downs
for me, because we use a
rundown and outline to follow

1005
00:55:03,710 --> 00:55:08,050
each day,
so you know, having
and DR. being in my corner every

1006
00:55:08,050 --> 00:55:11,536
morning
and helping with the
final preparation of the show,

1007
00:55:11,536 --> 00:55:15,815
and
all, and everybody just
reaching out and having my back.

1008
00:55:15,815 --> 00:55:19,785
All of
these things are also
wins, and I think also a great

1009
00:55:19,785 --> 00:55:23,314
way to wrap
up a conversation
today about community, so I

1010
00:55:23,314 --> 00:55:25,819
thank all of you
for your
support.

1011
00:55:25,819 --> 00:55:29,904
I thank you for having my back,
and looking
forward to next

1012
00:55:29,904 --> 00:55:32,494
week.
We are not doing a show Monday

1013
00:55:32,494 --> 00:55:35,780
for the
holiday here in the
United States, and we're back

1014
00:55:35,780 --> 00:55:37,480
Tuesday.

Ralph, what's happening on

1015
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,674
Tuesday?
Ralph Estep Jr: Oh, yeah,


1016
00:55:38,682 --> 00:55:40,591
Tuesday is going to be
fantastic, and I feel like it's

1017
00:55:40,591 --> 00:55:42,206
hard to come in after that,
Mark.

1018
00:55:42,206 --> 00:55:44,919
So, and it's been an honor

helping you all week, my friend.

1019
00:55:44,979 --> 00:55:46,109
It really has been.
Thank you.


1020
00:55:46,117 --> 00:55:47,312
But no, Tuesday's gonna be
great.

1021
00:55:47,312 --> 00:55:49,637
We have a special guest,
her
name is Katie Falk.

1022
00:55:49,637 --> 00:55:52,089
She's actually the marketing
director
at eCamm, and we're

1023
00:55:52,089 --> 00:55:54,539
gonna be talking about video
podcasting
specifically.

1024
00:55:54,539 --> 00:55:57,573
We're gonna talk about getting
comfortable on
camera.

1025
00:55:57,573 --> 00:56:00,339
Katie's somebody who's really
struggled with this, and
she's

1026
00:56:00,339 --> 00:56:03,629
made that very obvious, and then
she's given us some
ideas for

1027
00:56:03,629 --> 00:56:06,415
overcoming those on-camera
struggles and
practical tips

1028
00:56:06,415 --> 00:56:09,413
to build confidence.
So, really looking
forward to

1029
00:56:09,413 --> 00:56:11,799
her coming out.
She's a great person to, once

1030
00:56:11,799 --> 00:56:14,229
you get
to know her, you'll be
like, "Oh, I love this person,

1031
00:56:14,229 --> 00:56:16,661
she's
gonna be great.
So, make sure you join us on

1032
00:56:16,661 --> 00:56:18,209
Tuesday, that'll
be a great
episode.

1033
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,250
Marc Ronick: Yeah, looking

forward to that, and maybe

1034
00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:23,570
learning a few things about

eCamm while she's there, so join

1035
00:56:23,630 --> 00:56:25,800
us Tuesday.
Remember, no show
Monday, and

1036
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,158
you can find out how to join us
at Podcasting Morning


1037
00:56:30,166 --> 00:56:33,638
show.com/join us.
So, until Tuesday, make it a

1038
00:56:33,638 --> 00:56:36,050
great long
weekend, everybody.
Take care.