305 - Is Humor Your Missing Link?

0:04 Good morning, podcasters. It's Thursday, May 15th, 2025, and today we're talking about how you can fit some humor into your business podcast. Did I just hear people gasp and clutch their pearls? You bet I did. And now, if you're listening via podcast, please share this episode with a fellow podcaster and give us about 30 seconds and we'll get things rolling. And as always, thanks for being here. Hello, everyone.

1:20 Thanks for joining us in the room. And if you're listening on replay, thanks for joining. Joining the replay, we have a little bit of a little bit of a technical snafu, which is our version of being funny. So today we have Amanda Yoa in the room and she's going to lead us off with talking about putting comedy into your podcast. And even if you have a business podcast, I mean, why not? I put in the Empowered Podcaster Facebook group. You know, the only commercials I remember from my childhood are all the funny ones. You know, where's the beef? All the ones that have humor, those are the only ones that I remember.

2:06 So that's got to mean something, right? So we have an icebreaker today and the icebreaker is Jonathan. Do you have the icebreaker question? If your podcast had a sitcom character, who would it be and what's their catch phrases? So brand mascot. So if your podcast was a character, a sitcom character, who would it be and what would the catch phrase be? Does anyone want to take that? I've been, I've been thinking about it because, you know, I'm a producer. I don't have a podcast yet. I guess if I did have a podcast now this is going to take you back.

2:46 Do you remember horse shack and welcome back hotter. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that would be me and trying to get my podcast off the ground. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I'm I'm not sure what my catch phrase would be. I'm doing it. I'm getting there, I'm getting there. Sid, help me out. What was yours be? Good morning everybody. I don't have a catch phrase, but when I saw this question my first response was it would be Ross Geller from Friends. Damn it. Oh, that's who? You chose something. I was thinking that one. Not as a Why'd you choose Ross? So it's that awkward funny and Ross Keller is that awkward funny.

3:29 I mean, I could also go with Karen Walker. Who's the outrageous funny SO1 or the other? She's hysterical. Yeah. Yeah, she's hysterical. I've quoted her a few times on the podcast SO. Amanda, have you thought of 1 yet? So now throw the age out of the difference of age out of here, but run with me here. Punky Brewster and Chris would be like Henry. I would be Punky because Henry would always go Punky, you know? And I feel like sometimes when I give ratings on some of the songs, he's like Amanda, you know? And it's just I'm, I'm that Punky booster who just sees things different. Chris is that very stable Henry character. So yeah, like, but instead of it being punky, it's Amanda. Awesome.

4:20 Amanda Yoa, do you have one? I do have one. Good morning, everybody. So my mascot, if you don't follow me on Instagram, what are you doing? Amanda yoa dot official. If you do, you will know that your girl already has a mascot. Her name is Pam from Port Richmond and she's your no filter talent. How it is gal from Philly. So I use her in a lot of my skits that I do on Instagram and she's been really driving in, you know, the following and and engagement. So that is my mascot and from Port Richmond. Awesome, Dan, how about you? So I'm at a disadvantage here because I don't. I haven't watched TV since like circa 2017. OK.

5:07 I don't keep up with characters on television shows and I'm sitting here racking my brain. I wished I'd have looked at y'all's notes beforehand. That's why. I had to go back to the 80s. Dan, I'm with you. There, that's where I went because of my welcome back Cotter reference. OK, let me first introduce Amanda Yella. She is basically what this topic is kind of built around. She is a stand up comedian. She has a podcast. But the question is, even if you have a business podcast, why not put a little humor into that business podcast? All right, what are you afraid of? Are you afraid of hurting the brand? Are you afraid of insulting people? What?

5:54 What are you afraid of? But Amanda, I want you to give us your journey, please. Absolutely. Well, good morning everybody. For those of you who don't know me, as Dr. said, my name is Amanda Yoa. I'm a mom, a comedian, a podcast host of the six time award-winning show on zip with Amanda Yoa. I'm also a business owner. I'm kind of like a Jack of all trades. Honestly, I don't know how I do it but so my journey started out quite unique. I came on to the social media space wanting to make an impact back in like 2019 and at that time I was still going through my own journey of self discovery and healing and what have you.

6:36 I was invested in life coaches and that really inspired me to wanting to make an impact through life coaching. I quickly got caught up in the razzle dazzle of the social media space. All of those 6-7 figure coaches show up like this. Use this font, slap this hat on your head and you're going to be successful. And I got caught up in that. I bought into it and I quickly started showing up in the social media space in that manner. And I quickly found out that was not my lean. For me, it was an evolution of finding myself again because that version of me was always there. I was always told I was a funny person, but it's kind of like one of those things where, you know, your magic was there all along, you know, And it's kind of like that aha moment, like, oh, this was there all along. Why didn't I just invest in that? Why?

7:28 Because I was too busy investing and everything else that I was not thinking that's who I had to be in order to be successful in order to make an impact. So when I finally, you know, got tired of my MBSI said, you know what? Why don't we just try showing up as ourselves and see what happens? And let me tell you, showing up became a lot easier. I started having fun again. I was able to quickly create content effortlessly, you know, So what I've found to be passionate and then quickly got burnt out and then was like, wait a minute, Amanda, I thought we found our thing here. I quickly then again found myself by investing in myself and bringing all of who I am to what I do, which is I'm funny gal.

8:15 And I have to say recently I've been really diving into the stand up comedy. That's a more recent venture for me and I've just been lit up by it. Evolution of my podcast. I started out, it was empowered hype house. Then we evolved to staying inspired. I was really, you know, still in that round peg trying to fit myself into the square hole era, you know, trying to be this I'm going to inspire you type of gal. And then, you know, once I was really all in with me, I pivoted to unzip with Amanda Yoa springing all of me to the table. And let me tell you, I've been having a ball. I've been having a blast. I've been really seeing, you know, what's showing up authentically can do for you, whether it's in your life and your business.

9:03 So I've been having a grand old time and I'll pass it back to you R. That is great. So when you pivoted to podcasting, so the humor was already there, it's already within you. So are you, are you selling something? Are you selling like a book or a course or tickets to your show, or are you selling anything? Or are you like an affiliate for any products or do you have any sponsors? So yeah, my sponsorships kind of like they come and go, I try to do for the local small businesses in Philadelphia and a lot of those have a small budget. So I work with them and we'll do like clusters of of episodes.

9:46 So you know, they come and go. I'm actually collaborating with the Spot magazine, which is a magazine in Philadelphia. So I'll be doing a lot of like Amanda on the street content in the summertime now that the weather is nice and we can get out there and do things outside. I'm also doing some live podcast episodes from other businesses. I've been collaborating with other businesses and, and doing that thing along the way. That's been like a building process too. And I think it attributed to just, you know, coming out of my shell and just being more of myself and, and gaining that following on Instagram and, and people like it, it's fun. But I have to say, you know, when I first started out, there was that part of me that wanted to shine through, but I thought, no, I can't be that because I have to be this.

10:31 I'm wearing this hat right now. So I can't wear this hat and be, you know, funny, Amanda, because then that's not going to hit off. When in reality, that's probably what I should have been doing all along. You know what I mean? Yeah, so can humor live in a business or a Wellness podcast without being cringy? That's a great question and I'm going to answer it, but I would love to hear everybody else's opinion on that too, because I think that it can in some way, shape or form. Now you may be shaking your head and saying no, it can, Amanda, not my pockets. I don't know what you're talking about. It can. It's, you know, those witty moments. It's those moments where, you know, you may have a side comment to something that was said or a moment like this morning when we were having those technical difficulties, you know, where you would usually be like, we're going to cut this entire part out. Leave it in there.

11:25 You know, I think people truly love to get that true personality of who it is. If you're showing up as an as an inspirational influencer or podcaster or whatever it is that you're doing, you know, people love that little out-of-the-box glimpse of, of who you are outside of that. And if that's integrating a little comedy or a ha ha into your episode, I think that's great. I think that's hitting it off. And I, I put myself into the consumer. You know, I put my consumer hat on and I think of all the podcasts that I listen to and you know, there are moments where Mel Robbins will crack a joke. I appreciate that.

12:05 I realize girlfriend has a sense of humor while also improving my life on the daily. Thank you, Mama Mel, you know, so I think it's really beneficial when you can show up and integrate those moments of hey, you know what, I'm this everyday, but I also got a little ha ha for you or I got a little glimpse of your my personality that I love to shine through. It's that know like and trust and your audience getting to know you at a deeper level. So that's my take. I would love if you want to open the floor and ask everybody else. Let's get the conversation going. Up to you. So I'm going to say kind of like what I talked about last week, your personality has to show through your podcast in order for you really to get seen.

12:47 And I think absolutely humor is a great way to do it. Humor is one of those little hooks that gets in people's brains and allows them to actually connect with you. So I think that having humor in your podcast is a great, great way to connect with people. And even if you have a serious podcast, start out your podcast with a little bit of, you know, back and forth. If you have a Co host or talk about something that happened in your day, just make it real. And that's going to help you just get some of that humor, some of that personality, and some of that signature style in. OK, So what about all the people that say, well, all the people, all the podcasting gurus that say, you know, stop with the kibitz, Everyone is not. Everyone's tuning in to hear the meat of the subject, you know? So then be funny in the meat of the sub, the subject if that's what you really want to do.

13:39 Also, I don't listen to experts so. Well, there's that exactly. Go ahead, Amanda. Thank you. So I'm not really a funny person. Like if I'm funny, it's totally accidental. I'm not gifted like Amanda is. But I will say like I agree with the conversation of letting your little bit of personality or all of your personality get within your content. And I will say I've learned something so much this year that I mean, we all I love to skate, but I kept that skating more on my personal stuff as opposed to like my professional business page for my store. And while it's not a podcast that I started skating more of my content for the store. And I was so hesitant to do that because I'm a 43 year old on skates.

14:29 And I was just like, oh, my mom would think this is so silly. So much of what I think is like, what would my mom think? It's silly, I'm way too old to think that way, but it's just what I do. And so I just started doing it more this year and it's been something that I had no idea my customers would love so much. And it was so funny. My mom was at the store just this last week and every customer that came to the store referenced something from social media. Every single one, whether it be on my skates or a live that I did unboxing stuff. When my mom got to see like first hand how effective me putting personality into my marketing, putting me in front of the camera. My personality in front of the camera was bringing people into the store.

15:17 And I think it caused her. So if she had any thoughts about me being on skates where she might have used to roll her eyes, in all honesty, because it's just not my mom's style, she was almost flabbergasted and just was shocked to the point of like, wow, that works. And it was so fun to have her see the effectiveness. So I was proud that I've kind of put on my skates this season, laced them up and have used that for a strategy for the store and has been life changing for my business. So I think if you just show up in everything you're doing in the way that you originally are, it's going to be life changing for anything that you're doing. Amanda, I absolutely love that because that is exactly what I talked about. Is having that signature something and you know, you're, you're nailing it on all points because you're, you're out there and you're doing what you got to do and it's working. That's the amazing part because it does work. So.

16:10 And it is, it is working, Jeff, and it is fun that people are actually, I know when you're podcasting, you had a lot of listeners behind the screen. Not everyone's saying it to your face that they're loving that joke that you told or that personality. We don't get to get in front of our listeners as much as I get to get in front of my customers. So I do get those immediate wins sometimes, but I love. So I think if people are listening, don't hesitate to leave a little note for whoever your favorite creator is and say that you love those things about it because I think that'll be so helpful to them. When if I leave a comment on, you know, Amanda Yoa's a video that I just love. I love what she's doing or I love this character. Keep up the good work. I think those things just go so far with creators. Absolutely.

16:55 And I, you know, personally love Amanda, Yoa's Pam from Richmond. She'll have to do something with one of my characters one of these days. But yes. Does anybody else have anything? Are they in? Are you putting humor into your podcast or any other thing that's entertaining and has your personality? Dominic and then Sid. Good morning everybody. Hope everybody is well. I think comedy can be not just a nice tool for levity, but also a nice teaching tool as well. I've definitely used comedic bits and definitely in Black as America for sure, and definitely looking to have those moments of levity in mental health rewritten.

17:43 Because I think especially in mental health, I think we often only think about the negative part of it. But mental health is a 360 kind of thing, right? There are positive moments and positive things in mental health you can talk about, like being happy and joy is also part of mental health as well. It's not just like some type of disorder or something like that, but also in black as America, one of the thing I don't like are racist. And so I absolutely use comedy to make fun of people who have done, you know, racist things or done things towards, you know, people of color and stuff like that. So comedy is definitely something that is used to have those moments of levity for sure.

18:28 Absolutely. And yeah, So I'm going to say that if Dominic can use humor, everybody on this stage can. So Sid, you had your you waved your hand before. So good morning everybody. So here's comedy for you. I just packed for a five day trip in 10 minutes and I 100% over packed. I can tell you that. That's the other thing is what I'm saying is I don't intentionally infuse comedy into my show, but I do when something happens, it's funny. I do kind of land on it, and I certainly make fun of myself, right? If I do something silly or stupid, I have no problem at laughing at myself out loud. Well I know we would laugh at you too Sid. And how did you over pack in 5 minutes? Dude, I just grabbed, I just grabbed beak and put it in the suitcase because I said last night I'm not going to pack tonight.

19:19 And so I passed it. So I just grabbed shorts and pants and shirts and yeah, so that's it. I'm packed. It's just a reminder said that that's great content. And I think the last time you did a video about packing, it did really well. So just a gentle little nudge. It's too late for that because I've already packed and my last content that did really well was related to me planning a trip and like taking pictures of what I was going to wear each day and I wasn't prepared. But you know what? This is the this is the comedy factor of like, there's that Sid and then there's the this Sid. And this Sid is very real life Sid I love. It I'm a hot mess right now. I'm sweating like crazy trying to find Jackson. Say goodbye to the mother.

20:00 That's the shit showing here. But he said that's what's great. It's the fact that it wasn't intentional. And I think sometimes when you show up and you try to think too much or overthink it, that then you end up not being funnier and ends up not going the way that you you would want it to go. You know, a lot of times when I'm doing my podcast, I don't have a script per SE. I have bullet points of things that I want to rant and rave about, but I kind of just go off the cuff because I know if I over rehearse it or write it out, it's not going to hit the way that it would if I would just do it off the cuff and then go from there. You know, it's kind of like I'm writing the joke in real time. So having that moment where it's just like, hey, this is real life ish going on right now. This really happened.

20:47 You know, that's going to hit versus overthinking it and getting too much, you know, thought process into it. I think with comedy, it's just kind of just letting it flow and just being yourself and whatever version of comedy you bring to the table is yours, right? Like it doesn't have to look like me or it doesn't have to look like how this person does their podcast. It's people get to know your personality and what you find to be funny. Alexandra, you had your hand up. Go ahead. Well, first of all, Sid, if my dad was still here and you and he would get along well because he would have a story for you. So I'm going to tell it in his honor. The one and only time this man packed for himself, it was actually really funny. I didn't realize I was going on at the time because I was I was a self absorbed teenager.

21:31 But when my mom's best friend from childhood was getting married, that was the time that my dad decided that he he could pack his own bag. He didn't need my mom to pack it for him. This man forgot his his suit pants. And so the day of the wedding he discovers that he forgot his suit pants and so. And this man is 6 foot 4, has a crazy long end seam and so like they're scrambling. My mom is pissed obviously because she's already at the venue getting ready with the rest of the bridal party and has to leave in her bridesmaids dress to meet my dad at Men's Wearhouse to try and find suit pants that match the jacket that he has. Because he's not just a guest or the husband of one of the bridesmaids. He's Co officiating with the bride's father 'cause my dad was a minister.

22:20 So after that, my dad, my dad, no, my dad after that just let my mom pack for for him because he's like, I'm not doing this again. But see, I personally don't think I'm funny because people always tell me like, you're so funny, why don't you write comedy? I'm like, because it's one thing when I'm just being, I'm being my normally MC Cobbs sarcastic. So for I'm telling stories about my family. It's another thing to try to be funny on purpose. So usually if I'm trying to be trying to be funny or I'm trying to relate to people, I will make fun of my family because it's because they do funny stuff all the time and I have so many funny stories from them. And I also have some stories about me that I always start with. Legend has it because while I was there, I don't remember. But what I have learned though, is to just go with it like Amanda was saying.

23:14 Right, exactly. Just just go with it the same way that we opened up the show today. Sid, in the comments, Michael did say that you should unpack and then record yourself repacking. That's hysterical. Unfortunately, there's no time. We have to leave in 15 minutes because where we live we have no idea how long it's going to take us to. Get well, that would make it even funnier. Take us two hours. I know, right? That's for sure. And I'm just going to tell y'all, Teresa is never going to pack my clothes. Ever. She will let me go without anything before she packs my clothes. I'm just saying. Oh, love that Dr. You had a question for me, I do. So when someone is starting their podcast or starting their life as a influencer, a social influencer, and they would like to bring a little bit of themselves into it and they're naturally a funny person, but for some reason, once that camera is on, they kind of clam up a little bit. Is there?

24:16 What's the first step? Is there a formula in order to help them kind of step into themselves? Do you know what I'm? Saying so, I actually have a course where I teach people how to show up on video without showing up on video. And it's really just practicing in the mirror, practicing in your car, practicing your shower, then turning on the camera and actually practicing on camera and the reason that you just need to get the reps in. But the other thing is, like Alexandra was saying, she's situationally funny. I'm situationally hilarious personally, I believe. But it's in those situations where you find the the humor and you just have to let yourself get into whatever situation is going to be just talking to people or, you know, creating and stuff like that. That's going to allow you to really connect with how you want to show up and just be more.

25:10 You just got to practice getting relaxed on camera or relaxed on your microphone so that things will just flow better. And that's how I usually how I usually recommend people do it. I mean, I've got the whole course for them to show up on camera without showing up on camera, but yeah. Awesome, awesome. Amanda, I see your hand up. Yeah, I had a question for Amanda. Amanda, I think we've probably even did this as a ice breaker question in the past, but I think it would be important to ask you if you had to go back to your younger self and give her some advice about like the funniness. Because you were telling me about your, you know, you're telling all of us about your journey and how I feel like if you could do things over, you probably would do them over a little bit differently. So like, what would you, what would be that impact sentenced to your younger, like very younger self that you think would have maybe caused you not to stray from who you actually are and where your zone of the genius is? I took a good question because I don't see, I'm not one to say rewrite, you know, I'm always one to say, you know, that version of me is still me.

26:18 There will be times where people will say I'm not that person anymore. I bring all the chapters because I feel I would be remiss in in, in going back and telling her to do things differently because she wouldn't have the wisdom that she has today, right? Like, I don't, I don't regret all of any of my life decisions. I don't regret any of the lessons that I had to learn because they've molded and sculpt me into the the version that I am today at going to be 40 years old in January. If I were to go back and tell that that little version of me, anything who mind you, was in her living room watching the making of Thriller with her microphone, with all her stuffed animals lined up and they're putting on a performance for them, I would tell her to just keep shining despite the moments where you don't see the sunshine, keeping that sunshine for yourself.

27:13 You know, life is going to throw those things at you, but keep moving forward. I wouldn't tell her to change anything or do or be anything different because like I said, my lessons are mine. I have that wisdom in my tool belt now. That's that's me. That's what makes me. But yeah, that's what I would tell her. And yes, I know I removed from the making of Thriller. I love that and I love that you wouldn't change anything yet. You would just tell her to keep going because that's all we can really do at the end of the day. Love that. I love it too. I love it too. So if someone wanted to start putting some humor in their existing podcast, where would you say that they should begin? Should they put it in the intro?

27:54 Should they put it in the outro? Should they put it where? Maybe maybe they do, you know, mid role for maybe an affiliate or something. Should they put it in there? So where is the best place to put start putting humor? So I've mentioned many times that I'm going to redo my show, update my show for next year. And part of what I'm adding is a section at the end called rapid fire. And I'm, I don't know that that's what I'm going to call it, but it's going to be basically be rapid fire questions. And I hope that those questions lead to more real personal insights, but also a little bit of laughter and a little bit of fun from the guest, right, where they're sharing something about themselves that might be comical. So that I'm hoping that I can get some comedy, if you will, into the end of my show in my rapid fire. Awesome.

28:50 Amanda. I saw Amanda. Yo, I saw your hand go up. Yeah, I'm going to say don't overthink it. Get it in where you can fit it in. If it can't, like just let it flow naturally again. I, I feel like if, if you're going to be like, OK, I'm going to put it into the intro today or OK, I'm going to put it in the middle, you know, like that's, that's overthinking. And, and you know, there may be an episode where you're like, Dang, I didn't say anything funny today. Oh, well, we'll try again next week. You know, it it don't put your expectations too high, Just allow yourself to show up as yourself week after week after week. And I think that's what I did. And you can see it through the evolution of my podcast as they went from, you know, from show to show. And yes, I am rebranding after this season. It's just the evolution.

29:37 But I just my episode and episode and episode, I allowed myself to come more out of my show. I left. I allow my personality to shine through in the things that I was talking about. So it's about bringing a little bit more of who you are to what you do each and every episode. And I think when you leave the expectation there, you can open that space to allow yourself to do that with ease. I think if you overcomplicate it and you you plan it out too much. And I know everyone in here is a planner myself include on very type A. But if you plan it out in that way to infuse humor, I don't think it might not hit off the way that you would expect it versus just allowing things to flow down conversation to happen.

30:20 If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. You know, you try again next week. So I would say one of the things that would be the worst thing to do is be like, OK, at a minute and 47 seconds, I'm going to say this joke. And this joke is that I have to, it's like, OK, knock, knock. Who's there? Like you're going to be nervous leading into that minute and 42 seconds. You're going to feel weird coming out of that because it didn't really flow well. And that's just going to mess up your podcast. If you just feel if you go into your podcast and be like, all right, I'm good. I'm myself, I can do this and record. Something will come out that's funny, even if it's unintended and even if it's in like a little, you know, blooper reel. You can add the bloopers and I, I have so many blooper reels for our Oh my God, if I played the blooper reels for our episodes, people would be dying.

31:11 But yeah, I just let it happen. Blooper reels I think is great content. I mean, I, I hear sometimes people will play a blooper reel like at the end of their show. I think that's actually pretty good content. But Amanda, I wanted to ask you about your rebate brand. What are you rebranding too? Oh, for my podcast. So I am rebranding to something I I honestly have not really thought it through all the way. I have a few things in mind, but I'm keeping it short and sweet and simple and just doing Amanda yo and keeping it across the board. You know, I just building 1 cohesive brand of who I am when I show up on the social media space.

31:54 If you want my podcast, you can come see it's Amanda Yoa. I'm also across the street on the other social audio app and you can find me under there under it's Amanda Yoa. So just keeping that cohesiveness as I build my brand because you mentioned something earlier, Dr. about what I'm selling and I'm not a coach any longer, although I do post inspirational things for people to pick up and put down as they please. But I'm not getting paid for any of that. You know what I mean? I don't have a coaching program. I don't have a, you know, get into my funnel system. I'm, I'm, I'm selling my brand. So if I can simplify that by having one cohesive brand across the board, to me that's a win win.

32:35 So we are rebranding in season 6, which I can't even believe I'm saying that, but Season 6 it's going to be it's Amanda Yoa or the Amanda Yoa Show. Excellent. Are you going for like new cover art and and everything? Yeah, I actually have a photo shoot. We're doing a like very neighborhood, trying to hit some of the landmarks, but I wanted to kind of shine a light on my neighborhood in Philly where I grew up, rather than the, you know, City Hall and Rocky statue and all of those stereotypical Philly things. I'm doing it a little different going to the places where I grew up, having some border rice and pretzels and just all the things that make Philly Philly.

33:18 That's actually been rescheduled for the third time this month because of the rain, so. Hopefully we'll get in there hell. I know so as soon as that happens and I can get working on my cover art. But yes I am. Long story long, I am having a cup cover art change. Mother Nature got her months fixed up 'cause it's supposed to be April. Showers bring me flowers. That's mm. Hmm. So I yelled. I yelled in the middle of the show. Dr. Because Amanda was supposed to actually sit down on the other app across the street and for an interview with me today, but she had her branding shoot rescheduled. Is that chatter? Are we talking about chatter? OK, because some listeners might be saying what are they talking about? So yes, there is another audio program called Chatter. We've talked about it before here on this show. So I want to ask about I want to ask the room this question when it comes to humor, Who do you who do you listen to when it comes to humor podcast?

34:23 Do you listen to anyone? Do I see any hands up? I can tell you who I my first one is Conan O'Brien. I listen to Conan O'Brien and especially when he starts selling from his bag of sponsors that he has, he gets going on just one single item and it's self deprecating. It's at times you go, Oh my God, are they going to like that? He's talking about it that way. But they love it because he's Conan and he and his team are so good at it. So, Amanda, I saw your hand up first. So I should not surprise anybody by this answer, but I do not like follow anyone who does comedy like that.

35:08 Like you just described. Sometimes skits are funny to me, but it's usually because the actions that they're doing all within the skit itself. Like the entire picture seems funny to me. But I do not get a lot of humor. Like when Amanda throws on her character that makes me giggle and smile. But if you're just straight up telling jokes, most of them, 90% of them like fly right over my head. Like I they're on to the next one because they're so fast. They're on to the next joke before I've even processed the last one. So I'm like the worst person to go to a comedy show. There's different kinds of humor. There's the setup and the punch, and there's also just situational humor where you just talk about the situation, which is what Conan O'Brien does when he starts to sell some of the stuff that as he's getting sponsored by, he just goes for a long time on one product. So yeah, it's not like, you know, the old days. Bob Newhart, I'm sorry, Bob Hope and Milton Berle, where they do joke, joke, joke, joke, joke.

36:15 It's a little bit more situation, a little bit more storytelling that happens to be funny. Who else's hand did I see up when I started talking about? Situationally, I could make fun of that in exchange between you and Amanda 'cause it was a little bit awkward. Dr. Situationally, I could make fun of myself because my ADHDI was in the chat and I can't. But I listened to Unzipped with Amanda. Yoa, there you go. There you go. I actually don't listen to that many podcasts, but I do listen to the to Amanda's that time, so that's what I listen to. That's funny. Awesome Alexandra, I see your hand up.

36:58 But so I'm with Amanda. I don't really listen to a lot of podcasts. I'll be of us. They're like y'all's podcasts. But I'm still trying to catch up with all the past episodes of Just Say. I don't like the new format of sitcoms. I miss like the multicam laugh track sitcoms for like the 90s and early 2000s. But now if you were to scroll my Tiktok, you'd see one of four, four things. For the most part, it's either medians that I that are like my age, 'cause they're funny. I follow a lot of couples because sometimes I just say to remind myself that love is out there. Dogs and dogs are like animal content and then book talk. The book talk is actually pretty funny. It's in itself cause some of the videos these people do to promote their favorite authors, it's top tier. But the the comedians that I learned that I really enjoy listening to are the ones that post their crowd work because one of them actually explained he's like, we all have our sets. We all have our regular jokes that we have planned for each show.

38:11 But if we just kept posting a show saying the same old jokes, nobody would ever watch our videos or cups in our shows. So all we post is the crowd work. Because people who get, they go on their feet like that, I envy them. I do 'cause I'm just like, how do you come up with this stuff on the fly? Like ow somebody teach me your teach me your ways because I really want to know how to do this. Well, someone who's making a splash with that kind of crowd work is not. Yes, he is one of the people that I I thought he is. Right. But you know, I think that when you become so famous for something that after a while it kind of feels kind of sets up ish. You know, people when when you get ready to go to a comedy show, someone says, oh, I'm I'm going to yell something out because I'm going to get on his social. I know I'm going to get on his social if I yell something out. So it kind of feels kind of challenging kind of setup ish, something like that.

39:15 Amanda, Yoa, can you talk about this a little bit? Do you do any crowd work in your show? Oh. My gosh. So I have to say I've only done social audio stand up. So on Chatter, we have monthly a stand up comedy night where we have a slew of comedians that come in, take the stage over there. You can Cam up and be on camera. So I recently did a bit with Pam. I brought my character instead of just doing me and she was a little more interactive with the crowd, you know, pointing people out in the crowd, bringing things up that you know about them. I made a light hearted joke about all the verified people over there and, you know, just kind of like did a little bit of that.

40:05 I would have to say a crowd work will be a venture for me because I know in those situations, the true feeling of me will come out if somebody were to say something, if I have a Heckler, you know, if if, if we're talking about hecklers. So that's something that I'm still learning. To crowd work and in those situations, what do you do? Because for the most part, you know, my comedy people are very respectful. So I never really have instances like that unless it's planned on my part. OK. And I wanted to ask you when you because you have sponsors and so do you do mid rolls? Usually I will insert it at my producers, you know where, where they feel it fits. It's usually pre recorded.

40:56 Yeah, this actually this season I did it more off the cuff organically, but she would kind of tell me where to put it in. So sometimes it's in the beginning, sometimes it's in the middle. It's depending on, you know, the the person that I'm I'm linking up with per SE. Yeah. So tell me about how that felt when you did it organically versus when you did it scripted and pre taped. Basically, which one did you enjoy the most? I have to say I feel like retention wise, doing it organically works better. I feel it's easier if you haven't recorded because now I've noticed myself where I can in my head anticipate the pivot of the next seg. So my episodes are very segmental. I usually talk about 3 or 4 topics and episode so when I'm promoting my my sponsor I can in my head anticipate the next segment and say something at the end that I know will tie into like Speaking of blah blah blah.

42:01 Yeah, like a call back. Right. So, you know, pivoting into that next segment with ease and flow, that takes practice. And I don't know if I would have been able to do that gracefully a few episodes or a few seasons ago rather. So that's why my sponsors were recorded back then versus now. I can just throw it in, talk about it and then we pivot into the next segment. Well, I'm going to suggest that if if you want to put humor in your mid roll or into anything that you're trying to sell, and this goes for the entire room, I would suggest listening to of course, to Conan, but also fly on the wall.

42:41 Fly on the wall does a pretty good job as well. And I got to say, I think it's probably a little bit easier, maybe a lot easier if if it's, you know, if there's a team, if you're talking with someone versus just talking to a mic all by yourself solo, that I can see would be a little bit more difficult. But if you got a Co star or a Co host or someone that you can commit Kibbetz back and forth with, this seems to be probably a lot easier. But fly on the wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade are really good at this as well. So if you need to kind of dissect what they're doing, I would I would suggest you do that. Is there anyone, Amanda, is there anyone that you have heard that you would say, you know, they do a great job selling? So I don't know if you guys have Netflix, Most of us do kill Tony as a show on Netflix.

43:44 I really love that show. It's a stand up. He hosts a space, which is it's now a live podcast where comedians come up. He picks them out of a bucket and they have one minute, they don't know they're being picked. So hundreds of people wait across the street to boot, have their name called at random. So they come in, they do a minute bit and it could end up being something that changes their life. There's a panel of judges. You get roasted afterwards in a conversation with Tony. And in between he will do sponsors and it's him and his sidekick. And he's kind of just sometimes he's very robotic or like he'll throw like a weird way of the way that he's saying things and it's hilarious, but you're still gaining, you're still understanding what it is that he's pitching. So I think it works great for him the way that he does that. And again, that's Kill Tony.

44:40 I love that show. If you haven't seen it, you got to check it out. I had no idea that Kill Tony was on Netflix. That's great. I will definitely check that out. Amanda, I see your hand up. Yeah, I just when Amanda said they have like one minute to do their thing and it could be life changing. I just want to remind everyone in this room that they with their own social media, have one minute and less options to put stuff out there to have your life be changed. So just keep creating the content because you don't need what was it kill Tony to necessarily. Yes, that would maybe expedite it and make it faster. But I mean, we have daily opportunities to do that too. So just create.

45:23 Just create. Exactly, Jonathan, I saw your hand up. Yeah. And I actually have a question for the stage, just for those that are concerned about adding humor into their business podcast. Have you ever listened to a podcast and somebody's cracked joke and you've immediately turned it off and never listened to it again? I don't think that that has ever happened to me. Has it happened to you? No, because. Amanda, I see your hand up. Yeah, I'll say for me, yes. But typically is if the joke goes like a way that I was like, oh, if you're going to say a joke like that, that you're not my type, type of personality person that I want to be like learning from. So there is sometimes the joke just goes a little too far to the other side of what I want.

46:09 And then so yeah, I do turn it like I don't really listen anymore after that point. It has to be pretty like vulgar though, you know? You see, those are the ones that I love. OK. But anyway for everybody. And I wouldn't recommend going vulgar in your business podcast, but you know, to each his own. Well, it could depending on what your who your sponsor is. I mean there is, you know what, there is a podcast called The Vagina Podcast and she talks about. I think she talks about. Something called muff, something called muff something, I don't know, but it's a it's a product. So, you know, you got to go with what you got to go with.

46:51 And Alex just joined us. Alex. That's a good time, Alex. It is Alex. That's what happens when I leave everything. Look who showed up. Yeah, well, but late to never. So, Alex, we are. That was. Comedy. There you go. We are talking about humor in your podcast and maybe using humor to sell, you know whoever is sponsoring you, maybe just sell your own product. Have you, have you done this? Have you tried this? Oh, we are filled with humor in our podcast. We like to do a lot of site gags because it really translates well on an audio podcast, similar to the whole, you know, good morning, Vietnam thing.

47:38 You know, we'd like to do a lot of tripping and falling, of course, because that really that really kind of projects. Well, I mean, no, I mean in terms of comedy, you know, or in terms of jokes, you got to kind of keep it light. We try to keep it as light as we can. One of the things that I like to do with my daughter's podcast is I always like try to trip her up a little and she's such a good podcast partner. She doesn't even flinch a lot of times. She usually kind of goes with it because she knows her dad's an idiot. And with the other podcast, I got to tell you, for those of you that don't do lives, doing a live like this versus doing something that's pre recorded, it's a different beast because you really have to be on your feet.

48:24 You kind of have to go with the flow and you kind of when things do happen because they're going to happen. I mean, we prove that every day. I know Amanda has to deal with that every Monday is you just kind of have to go with it. Some days nothing works and other days it sort of works. And hopefully the days that it sort of works that way, the days that it doesn't work, you have to have a congruence thought with it. And also, you know, with our podcast and I know with with Amanda's podcast and everybody else's, you know, you have certain things that you say that are inside jokes to your listeners. And I think that's a real big important thing to have that kind of secret, you know, not secret, but like your own little language. I know Amanda Yoa has that with hers and Jonathan has it with his.

49:15 And I think that that that's that's what's even better like for our for the what is from cast, the it's not really comedy, but you know, they call all the people that watch from Affrummally and not that we didn't coin the phrase, but that's just what they do. That's what the the show has done. So I mean, that's kind of one of the things that we do. And I think you can get a lot of traction with the holidays and kind of we do a lot with that, like with Mother's Day. And you know, I know there's that always that, that great Mother's Day meme of mommy dearest holding the hanger, you know, Happy Mother's Day. And also seriously from Game of Thrones.

49:55 It's like, you know, you have to have fun with it or you won't actually, what's the point? So that's my minute or so right before the room closes because the class that I'm teaching, they all left me because they had a, a call like an emergency call. So I'm just. Serious. You know, Alex, that's just what they told you. Honey, I'm. Saying, well, pretty, you know what, I'm kind of hoping that's what it was. Either way, I'm getting paid, so I really don't care. So, you know, I had to be up at 5 O clock in the morning. Talk about comedy. I had to be up at 5 O clock in the morning to be here at 7:00 so that they could so that they could leave at, you know, 7:15, so whatever. You go, they'll say that one of the funniest things that I have ever heard was, and this is back on radio. So there was no visual to it.

50:42 It was just radio. My friend Peter Tilden, he's a good friend of mine and he he had, he was interviewing Carrot Top. Carrot Top is a prop comedian, prop comedian. And so every time Peter would make a joke, and he's a comedy writer, so he makes a lot of jokes. And every time he made a joke, you know, a prop comedian will do something with their props. And so you what you heard was you should see this. Oh, he's got a helmet on with with hands and he's pulling on some strings and the hands are clapping on top of his hell. Oh, it's great. The whole interview was was Peter explaining what Carrot Top was doing with all his props.

51:25 It was great. It was great. And just a note to Ashley. Ashley, you might want to take out my vagina stuff. You know that? The stuff that I was talking about. Oh, see. I, I wanted to hear that on the replay because, you know, we just don't get enough vaginas and. I definitely not enough of that on the morning chat. I mean, I don't know if it's a little too much for the morning chat, but you know, we used to talk about that on the Friday evening chat. I mean, you know, you get Paula with a couple of Budweisers. And God, wait a minute, are you talking about my vagina on your lifetime chat? No, no, I think. Anybody's vagina. I'm a married man.

52:05 I don't. Really and everybody, thank you for joining us today. So look. At this. The podcasting morning chat has been cancelled. Won't be the first thing that's got cancelled on this place. Everyone, thank you so much for joining us today. I want you to have a great day. Thank you so much for joining us and we will see you tomorrow.